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SOUL-SKINS 04-03-2009 03:29 PM

Giants release Burress
 
According to NFL.com the g-men release Burress.

SOUL-SKINS 04-03-2009 03:29 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Well, any takers?

FRPLG 04-03-2009 03:30 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Who'd take a guy who is going to be in jail come September?

tryfuhl 04-03-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
didn't the giants say that they weren't going to release him?

guess he's def going to be in trouble huh? or maybe something else happened behind the scenes

MTK 04-03-2009 03:33 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Surprised they didn't do this a long time ago.

ArtMonkDrillz 04-03-2009 03:33 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Vet...

jsarno 04-03-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=FRPLG;542914]Who'd take a guy who is going to be in jail come September?[/quote]

He's an AMAZING talent...there will be plenty of "takers"...and I'm willing to put a cool $100 on the fact that BOTH the Cowboys and Snyder / Cerrato have made a call to his agent...even though Snyderato would deny it.

I see him as a lesser Terrell Owens. Too many problems to take. The Skins have enough to deal with without getting a guy that HATES to practice and "somehow" manages to shoot himself in the leg!

I am curious, is he ACTUALLY going to jail for sure? If so, how long?

SOUL-SKINS 04-03-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=FRPLG;542914]Who'd take a guy who is going to be in jail come September?[/quote]

Is he definitely going to the big house?

FRPLG 04-03-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=tryfuhl;542915][B]didn't the giants say that they weren't going to release him?[/B]

guess he's def going to be in trouble huh? or maybe something else happened behind the scenes[/quote]

If so I await similar outrage like when Cerrato made less than truthful statements to the press in the name of secrecy. I bet we don't see nearly as much.

firstdown 04-03-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=Mattyk72;542917]Surprised they didn't do this a long time ago.[/quote]
I think they where waiting to see what kind of case he is up against. I'm not sure how he could get out of serving the min which I think it was posted here is around 4 years.

skinsfan69 04-03-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
NY did the right thing. It's time for them to move on. Burress has so much damn baggage and it's just not worth it to them anymore. His career is over cause he just doesn't know or understand how to be a professional. They're depending on some young wr's that are waiting in the wings, just like we are.

freddyg12 04-03-2009 03:36 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
I hate that dude. Let our wr's come of age, or sign a solid vet as a stop gap measure if you have to, but not plax!

FRPLG 04-03-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
His charged crime carries 3-5 MANDATORY sentence. Even when they plead it down he has a bunch of factors working against.

A) NY is notoriously anti-gun. Prosecutors put people in jail for gun crimes like cops write speeding tickets
B) The prospector and the MAYOR have said they want jail time. I believe the phrase "make an example of hi" was used.
C) The case will be heard smack dab in the middle of the MAYOR's reelection
D) Typically even once pleaded down defendants carry 3-12 months on these types of crimes.

He's going to jail. Not for 3 years but I'd bet he gets 6 months.

Monkeydad 04-03-2009 03:47 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Jerry Jones is already on the phone.

jsarno 04-03-2009 03:48 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=FRPLG;542929]
He's going to jail. Not for 3 years but I'd bet he gets 6 months.[/quote]

Makes me wonder if he will still be able to play though. He can plead the economic hardship and might be allowed to play though. Sure it's a long shot, but it "could" work.

CRedskinsRule 04-03-2009 03:52 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Where is Giantone when you need him?????

GMScud 04-03-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=Mattyk72;542917]Surprised they didn't do this a long time ago.[/quote]

I guess they were waiting to see what happened this week. The case being adjourned until June 15th does a few things:

1) no legal decision on his future until almost 2 months after the draft
2) with jail time likely, any sentence will run into the 2009 season

Plus, he's almost definitely getting suspended by Principal Roger.

Eight in the Box 04-03-2009 04:08 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Well, our DBs look a lot better now. Now if the 'boys would just find a reason to cut the other Roy Williams our division would be devoid of stud WRs (minus 'tana of course..)

Giantone 04-03-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;542938]Where is Giantone when you need him?????[/quote]

LOL...Hi guys, this is the last up to the min I have............




April 3, 2009
Giants cut Plaxico Burress

Updated: 3:44 p.m.

The Giants spent the past four months insisting they would stand beside the troubled Plaxico Burress. Today, they decide to let him stand alone.

In a shocking, final twist to the four-month-long soap opera, the Giants announced today that they have released the troubled receiver who famously shot himself in the thigh on Nov. 29. Just three days after he showed up in a Manhattan court to ask for a delay in his court case, the Giants announced they won’t wait to see how it all turns out.

“I am an optimist, and I believe most situations can be worked out,” Giants GM Jerry Reese said in a statement released by the Giants. “We hung in there as long as we could in hopes that there could be a resolution to this situation other than the decision we made today to release Plaxico. It wasn’t to be, so now we have to move on.”

It’s not at all clear why the Giants had a sudden and dramatic change of heart. Reese has insisted many, many times that the Giants would be willing to bring the 31-year-old receiver back. And just two weeks ago he insisted that everyone in the organization was “on board” with that possibility, even though the team’s co-owners and Tom Coughlin had notably not said the same thing publicly.

Coughlin had said he needed to give Burress’ situation more thought before he made any decision. His lone statement today said nothing about why Burress was no longer welcome on his team.

“Plaxico’s contribution to our championship season in 2007 can never be underestimated or undervalued,” Coughlin said in the team‘s press release. “He displayed tremendous determination throughout that season. Having said that, I have always been as concerned about Plaxico as a man as I have been about him as a player, and my hope is that everything that has happened over the past several months represents a turning point. He is a young man with a family who has a whole lifetime ahead of him, and I personally wish him and his family well.”

There was never a guarantee, of course, that Burress would even be eligible to play for the Giants again. He’s facing two felony counts of criminal possession of a loaded and unlicensed weapon, stemming from the late-November shooting at The Latin Quarter. That crime carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 3 ½ years in prison, and so far, according to sources familiar with the case, the Manhattan District Attorney has not been willing to accept any plea deal that doesn’t at least include some jail time.

With Burress not due back in court until June 15, any jail time would likely take him through training camp and possibly into the 2009 season. He’s also facing a likely suspension from the NFL for violating the league’s Personal Conduct Policy.

Burress also is involved in a nasty arbitration fight over the terms of his contract. On Wednesday, lawyers representing the NFL Players Association argued on his behalf in front of a Special Master over the Giants’ decision to withhold the final, $1 million payment of his $4.5 million signing bonus. Also at that hearing, the Giants argued that Burress’ behavior has caused him to forfeit all future bonuses and escalators in his deal.

Pending that decision — which the Special Master promised to deliver by Wednesday — Burress stands to lose as much as $27 million of the five-year, $35 million contract he signed in September. He also lost $2 million in fines and lost wages from the punishment he received from the Giants after his shooting. The NFLPA has called that “excessive” and filed a grievance which is scheduled to be heard by a Special Master in June.

Burress’ agent, Drew Rosenhaus, could not immediately be reached for comment.

Burress leaves the Giants with a very mixed legacy. The talented receiver will always be remembered for catching the game-winning touchdown pass in the Giants’ thrilling win over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. He also helped get them to that game with a thrilling, 11-catch, 151-yard performance in frigid conditions in Green Bay in the NFC championship game.

But almost from the moment he signed with the team on March 17, 2005, Burress has been a thorn in the side of Coughlin. He began breaking team rules almost immediately, and was even benched for the first quarter of his third game with the team for twice arriving late to a team meeting. In his four years with the Giants he accumulated hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines and was twice suspended by the club for “conduct detrimental to the team.”

Without him, though, the Giants are extremely short-handed at receiver. They had brief trade talks in late February with the Cleveland Browns regarding receiver Braylon Edwards, but those talks did not appear to go anywhere. They also have an interest in Arizona receiver Anquan Boldin, though it’s not clear if the Cards are willing to trade him.

Most likely, the Giants will have to select a receiver in the first or second round of the upcoming NFL draft.

As for Burress, his NFL career is obviously on hold, pending the outcome of his legal situation.

“Like everybody else here, we want nothing but the best for Plaxico,” Reese said. “And we are appreciative of the contributions he made to this franchise.”

TheSmurfs22 04-03-2009 04:14 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=Eight in the Box;542948]Well, our DBs look a lot better now. Now if the 'boys would just find a reason to cut the other Roy Williams our division would be devoid of stud WRs (minus 'tana of course..)[/quote]
~~~~~~~~

Kudos to the Giants for cutting Burress, he is a virus just like T.O. is.

Redskin Warrior 04-03-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;542951]~~~~~~~~

Kudos to the Giants for cutting Burress, he is a virus just like T.O. is.[/quote]

I'll take T.O. any day he doesn't break laws he just speaks his mind.

WaldSkins 04-03-2009 04:32 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Whats the cap hit to release him?

sandtrapjack 04-03-2009 04:37 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
With the legal trouble that Burress is in he is going to need a lawyer with enough clout to get Stevie Wonder a drivers license.

None the less, Burress and Owens out of the NFC East? That changes the look of the whole division actually.

jsarno 04-03-2009 04:39 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;542953]I'll take T.O. any day he doesn't break laws he just speaks his mind.[/quote]

I think you mean he hasn't been caught breaking any laws. FYI, MANY players carry guns, Plax was just a moron on not knowing how to use it. Also, I don't recall plax trying to commit suicide then have a girl (don't recall how she was affiliated with him professionally) go on TV crying to turn around and say it was all a big misunderstanding. Riiiiight, like I believe TO isn't mentally like a 10 year old! I'd take plax over TO any day of the week and twice on Sunday...but let it be known I don't want either. TO is such a MASSIVE head case he makes everyone else look like MENSA candidates!

Lotus 04-03-2009 05:05 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Let's see...a license for the gun costs what, $100? If that gun were licensed, Plax would not be in such trouble right now.

Penalty for getting caught with an unlicensed gun? $27 million in lost wages, although if he plays again after jail then some of this will be made back.

Plax made a mistake which was incredibly expensive.

tryfuhl 04-03-2009 05:09 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=jsarno;542932]Makes me wonder if he will still be able to play though. He can plead the economic hardship and might be allowed to play though. Sure it's a long shot, but it "could" work.[/quote]

nah the gun was tucked in his pants, pretty short shot if you ask me haha

anyways, still have to see goodell's take on this too

tryfuhl 04-03-2009 05:10 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=Lotus;542977]Let's see...a license for the gun costs what, $100? If that gun were licensed, Plax would not be in such trouble right now.

Penalty for getting caught with an unlicensed gun? $27 million in lost wages, although if he plays again after jail then some of this will be made back.

Plax made a mistake which was incredibly expensive.[/quote]

You ever tried to get a handgun license in new york?

53Fan 04-03-2009 05:19 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=FRPLG;542929]His charged crime carries 3-5 MANDATORY sentence. Even when they plead it down he has a bunch of factors working against.

A) NY is notoriously anti-gun. Prosecutors put people in jail for gun crimes like cops write speeding tickets
B) The prospector and the MAYOR have said they want jail time. I believe the phrase "make an example of hi" was used.
C) The case will be heard smack dab in the middle of the MAYOR's reelection
D) Typically even once pleaded down defendants carry 3-12 months on these types of crimes.

He's going to jail. Not for 3 years but I'd bet he gets 6 months.[/quote]

Plax and his lawyer wanted no more than 4 months. The D.A. wants 1 year in a plea.

Eknox 04-03-2009 05:27 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=jsarno;542920]He's an AMAZING talent...there will be plenty of "takers"...and I'm willing to put a cool $100 on the fact that BOTH the Cowboys and Snyder / Cerrato have made a call to his agent...even though Snyderato would deny it.

I see him as a lesser Terrell Owens. Too many problems to take. The Skins have enough to deal with without getting a guy that HATES to practice and "somehow" manages to shoot himself in the leg!

I am curious, is he ACTUALLY going to jail for sure? If so, how long?[/quote]
I dont know Rosenhaus and Snyder are like BFF's when it comes to free agents.

Ruhskins 04-03-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=Eknox;542988]I dont know Rosenhaus and Snyder are like BFF's when it comes to free agents.[/quote]

Gee, I didn't know this...

:bdh:

SFREDSKIN 04-03-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Plaxxico better get some lube, he's gonna need it.

skinsfan69 04-03-2009 11:15 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;543000]Plaxxico better get some lube, he's gonna need it.[/quote]

dude you're sick. lol.

Masshole 04-03-2009 11:54 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=jsarno;542920]He's an AMAZING talent...there will be plenty of "takers"...and I'm willing to put a cool $100 on the fact that BOTH the Cowboys and Snyder / Cerrato have made a call to his agent...even though Snyderato would deny it.

I see him as a lesser Terrell Owens. Too many problems to take. The Skins have enough to deal with without getting a guy that HATES to practice and "somehow" manages to shoot himself in the leg!

I am curious, is he ACTUALLY going to jail for sure? If so, how long?[/quote]

Plaxico is NOT Terrell Owens. Sure, missing the end of the season is certainly a major drag on the team and has to be noted when evaluating him, but TO is a clubhouse cancer who has never jived with his teammates ('That's my QB' rant, notwithstanding). Plax has always been very well liked by his teammates, the problems he brings are mainly self-imposed. I mean, he was hanging out with his teammates the night he shot himself, can you imagine TO going to a club with 3 of the other guys on his team? I'm pretty sure he and Rothlesberger were roommates in Pittsburgh and Big Ben was pissed when the Steelers let him go. So again, I don't think he's the team killer that he's made out to be.

So the question is, can he schedule his jail time around the season, and I don't seen any reason why he couldn't, looking at Jamaal Lewis as a precedent. It's true they're going to try and make an example out of him, but society certainly isn't served any better by him not playing football and earning 3 million for the year and then paying his debt after the season. There are only so many competent 6'5" receivers in the league, we'd be foolish not to consider adding him for a year on an incentive laden contract if he can play 12 games for us this year.

mredskins 04-04-2009 12:35 AM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=Masshole;543116]Plaxico is NOT Terrell Owens. Sure, missing the end of the season is certainly a major drag on the team and has to be noted when evaluating him, but TO is a clubhouse cancer who has never jived with his teammates ('That's my QB' rant, notwithstanding). Plax has always been very well liked by his teammates, the problems he brings are mainly self-imposed. I mean, he was hanging out with his teammates the night he shot himself, can you imagine TO going to a club with 3 of the other guys on his team? I'm pretty sure he and Rothlesberger were roommates in Pittsburgh and Big Ben was pissed when the Steelers let him go. So again, I don't think he's the team killer that he's made out to be.

So the question is, can he schedule his jail time around the season, and I don't seen any reason why he couldn't, looking at Jamaal Lewis as a precedent. It's true they're going to try and make an example out of him, but society certainly isn't served any better by him not playing football and earning 3 million for the year and then paying his debt after the season. There are only so many competent 6'5" receivers in the league, we'd be foolish not to consider adding him for a year on an incentive laden contract if he can play 12 games for us this year.[/quote]


I love your Screen Name growing up in RI anytime a Mass person cut us off, we would yell MASSHOLE, hahahahah!

vallin21 04-04-2009 01:44 AM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[B]IF[/B] Plaxico's legal troubles are behind him I'd sign him to a 1 yr deal with incentives. He went to high school in VA, he visits Redskins Park every offseason and knows the guys on the team and was friends w/ST. He could mentor the younger WR's and be a solid #2 for us. If his legal troubles are behind him and he makes some personal changes off the field SIGN HIM!!

SBXVII 04-05-2009 10:35 PM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
I wonder if they have work release? LOL.

CRedskinsRule 04-06-2009 07:42 AM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
Sorry, but to even look at Plax would be a little ridiculous. Every contract that we now write, includes wording to make the ota's etc as close to mandatory as possible, obviously that is important in our eyes. Plax has never done those willingly and I don't think that would change now. One point made was that TO never gelled with his teammates, but that is not true. He was a very well respected, but divisive person. He simply created a following within the locker room. Plax should not, and hopefully will not be a Skins player ever, He would be much better off in Cincinatti

dmek25 04-06-2009 08:02 AM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
there was probably a reason the steelers let him walk. there definitely was a reason the giants let him walk. talented, but way too much baggage. like said earlier, a lesser version of Owens. i say no way

Giantone 04-06-2009 09:58 AM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=vallin21;543146][B]IF[/B] Plaxico's legal troubles are behind him I'd sign him to a 1 yr deal with incentives. He went to high school in VA, he visits Redskins Park every offseason and knows the guys on the team and was friends w/ST. He could mentor the younger WR's and be a solid #2 for us. If his legal troubles are behind him and he makes some personal changes off the field SIGN HIM!![/quote]


I'm pretty sure that if it was all behind him the Giants would have kept him.He's gonna do jail time ....how much I don't know and then the NFL will suspend him for a while ,the Giants had to move on for life without Plax he is 32, now wether that means a trade for a widout or taking a chance on the draft and developing someone ...I don't know but we had to move on.Burress has talent no question but he's not worth the headach.

firstdown 04-06-2009 10:10 AM

Re: Giants release Burress
 
[quote=jsarno;542920]He's an AMAZING talent...there will be plenty of "takers"...and I'm willing to put a cool $100 on the fact that BOTH the Cowboys and Snyder / Cerrato have made a call to his agent...even though Snyderato would deny it.

I see him as a lesser Terrell Owens. Too many problems to take. The Skins have enough to deal with without getting a guy that HATES to practice and "somehow" manages to shoot himself in the leg!

I am curious, is he ACTUALLY going to jail for sure? If so, how long?[/quote]
Well from what I heard they tried to make some sort of plea deal and they got turned down. There is a good chance that he will do over 3 years which is the min. for his crime. I just don't see how he is going to get out of this and I think the Giants think the same thing and thats why they just released him.


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