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John Denny 04-20-2009 06:31 PM

Other teams interest in Knowshon Moreno could benefit us...
 
Paolantonio reported on ESPN that the eagles really like the guy and would consider moving up to get him. I don't think he'll go before us so we could be in a good spot to move back because of the interest in Moreno. The Saints and Chargers (both pick after us) are probably in the market for a RB and now with the Eagles joining the fray, this could play into our hands (if Orakpo or one of the four tackles don't fall to us).
The Eagles still have plenty of picks to play with and might not care about trading within the division to get the guy they want. And because they're in the division, we might be able to get a better price, especially with the Saints and Chargers in the mix. Who wants him?!

WaldSkins 04-20-2009 06:39 PM

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[quote=John Denny;547656]Paolantonio reported on ESPN that the eagles really like the guy and would consider moving up to get him. I don't think he'll go before us so we could be in a good spot to move back because of the interest in Moreno. The Saints and Chargers (both pick after us) are probably in the market for a RB and now with the Eagles joining the fray, this could play into our hands (if Orakpo or one of the four tackles don't fall to us).
The Eagles still have plenty of picks to play with and might not care about trading within the division to get the guy they want. And because they're in the division, we might be able to get a better price, especially with the Saints and Chargers in the mix. Who wants him?![/quote]

I doubt the Chargers select a RB with LT and Sproles still under contract.

Son Of Man 04-20-2009 06:42 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;547660]I doubt the Chargers select a RB with LT and Sproles still under contract.[/quote]

That's what I was thinking! Especially at 1st round pick $$$$$

WaldSkins 04-20-2009 06:47 PM

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[quote=Son Of Man;547662]That's what I was thinking! Especially at 1st round pick $$$$$[/quote]

And i'll put money on the Saints to go defense with there number one pick. There defense is horrible.

John Denny 04-20-2009 06:52 PM

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LT is coming up on that dreaded benchmark...30. He's got a ton of miles on those legs and while he's been pretty healthy throughout his career, last year might have been the beginning of the end for him. Plus, how long can they pay elite RB money to a 30 year old? Indy parted ways with Edge when he was in his prime and that has turned out to be the correct decision. And Sproles, as good as he was last year, is nothing more than a change-of-pace back. Get him 15 or so touches a game and let him run wild in the return game and that's where he'll thrive. He'll never be a featured back.
The Saints have Pierre Thomas, who proved he can handle the rock, and Bush but Bush can never stay healthy. And to be successful in this league, you have to have at least two healthy and productive RB's. Moreno would definately fit what the Saints do because he's a good receiver and pass blocker. Three RB's can work too (Jacobs, Ward and Bradshaw aka Earth, Wind and Fire).
The Eagles really need a RB. Buckhalter bolted to Denver and now they're left with Westbrook, who is a bonafide game-changer but can never stay healthy. The Eagles really need another RB and Moreno could be that guy, especially now that they're set on the O-line.

WaldSkins 04-20-2009 06:52 PM

re: Other teams interest in Knowshon Moreno could benefit us...
 
[quote=John Denny;547656]Paolantonio reported on ESPN that the eagles really like the guy and would consider moving up to get him. I don't think he'll go before us so [B]we could be in a good spot to move back[/B] because of the interest in Moreno. The Saints and Chargers (both pick after us) are probably in the market for a RB and now with the Eagles joining the fray, this could play into our hands (if Orakpo or one of the four tackles don't fall to us).
The Eagles still have plenty of picks to play with and might not care about trading within the division to get the guy they want. And because they're in the division, we might be able to get a better price, especially with the Saints and Chargers in the mix. Who wants him?![/quote]

I thought that we were moving up?

John Denny 04-20-2009 06:56 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;547665]I thought that we were moving up?[/quote]

I'd be really disappointed if we did unless it was to draft a tackle or Orakpo. Sanchez makes no sense for us right now.

CRedskinsRule 04-20-2009 07:06 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;547665]I thought that we were moving up?[/quote]

we are moving up, grabbing Sanchez. Packaging him Cooley, and next years first for this years 20th and 33rd, so that we can draft a punter and fg kicker in the top two rounds.
GEEZ keep up with the news

Nflnick11 04-20-2009 07:12 PM

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No no no we need, in this order, OT DE OLB C/G then a speedy back ...next year we can get brandon James of Florida as our backup RB

Redskin Jim 04-20-2009 07:13 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;547663]And i'll put money on the Saints to go defense with there number one pick. There defense is horrible.[/quote]
I think they WILL go defense with their first pick, but they have shown interest in C. Wells and Moreno in replacing the hole left by the departure of Duece McAlister.

53Fan 04-20-2009 07:24 PM

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I could see New Orleans or Philly being interested. But Philly may go after TE Pettigrew then RB Donald Brown later. I'm sure G. Williams will be lobbying for defense but N.O."s headcoach (his name escapes me right now) is an offensive guy and unless he's ok with Pierre, he may go RB.

WaldSkins 04-20-2009 07:27 PM

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[quote=53Fan;547675]I could see New Orleans or Philly being interested. But Philly may go after TE Pettigrew then RB Donald Brown later. I'm sure G. Williams will be lobbying for defense but N.O."s headcoach ([B]his name escapes me right now[/B]) is an offensive guy and unless he's ok with Pierre, he may go RB.[/quote]

Sean Payton

Redskin Jim 04-20-2009 07:27 PM

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[quote=53Fan;547675]I could see New Orleans or Philly being interested. But Philly may go after TE Pettigrew then RB Donald Brown later. I'm sure G. Williams will be lobbying for defense but N.O."s headcoach (his name escapes me right now) is an offensive guy and unless he's ok with Pierre, he may go RB.[/quote]Agreed.. Sean Payton

John Denny 04-20-2009 07:33 PM

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[quote=53Fan;547675]I could see New Orleans or Philly being interested. But Philly may go after TE Pettigrew then RB Donald Brown later. I'm sure G. Williams will be lobbying for defense but N.O."s headcoach (his name escapes me right now) is an offensive guy and unless he's ok with Pierre, he may go RB.[/quote]

Donald Brown is a really good all-around back. I could see a number of teams being interested in him (NE comes to mind).

Redskin Jim 04-20-2009 07:37 PM

re: Other teams interest in Knowshon Moreno could benefit us...
 
[quote=John Denny;547679]Donald Brown is a really good all-around back. I could see a number of teams being interested in him (NE comes to mind).[/quote]Or us, he would be a nice change of pace back. If, he fell into the later rounds.

53Fan 04-20-2009 07:38 PM

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Sean Payton. Thanks guys. My brain went on vacation for a while. :)

John Denny 04-20-2009 09:05 PM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;547681]Or us, he would be a nice change of pace back. If, he fell into the later rounds.[/quote]

He would but I doubt he'll make it past the 2nd rd.

Redskin Jim 04-20-2009 09:19 PM

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[quote=John Denny;547721]He would but I doubt he'll make it past the 2nd rd.[/quote]You are probably right, but, if he fell to the third I wouldn't be too upset if we picked him. Even with all our other needs.

GridIron26 04-20-2009 09:45 PM

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[quote=53Fan;547675]I could see New Orleans or Philly being interested. [B]But Philly may go after TE Pettigrew[/B] then RB Donald Brown later. I'm sure G. Williams will be lobbying for defense but N.O."s headcoach (his name escapes me right now) is an offensive guy and unless he's ok with Pierre, he may go RB.[/quote]

I highly doubt that Eagles would go after a TE in 1st rd - they are already in love with Celek - enough to let LJ Smith go.. They probably will go after a RB (since they lost Buckhalter and Westbrook is 30 along with his injuries history) or T..

John Denny 04-20-2009 10:04 PM

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IF the Eagles don't trade for Boldin, I'd bet they go for a RB (either trading up or take whatever is left) or finally draft a WR. They caught lightning in a bottle last year with D. Jackson but they could use a big possession type receiver like Britt or Nicks, both of which should be available when they pick.
I still think they that Philly could make some sort of play for Sanchez. Philly's FO showed that they're moving in the direction of replacing McNabb when they drafted Kolb in the 2nd rd last year. Kolb looked terrible (as many rookie qb's often do) and they might not be sold.

70Chip 04-21-2009 12:53 AM

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If Moreno goes to Philly it's worth 2 to 3 regular season wins for them. Bad news for us. This guy is a Superstar.

GTripp0012 04-21-2009 12:57 AM

re: Other teams interest in Knowshon Moreno could benefit us...
 
[quote=70Chip;547863]If Moreno goes to Philly it's worth 2 to 3 regular season wins for them. Bad news for us. This guy is a Superstar.[/quote]Over his rookie year? Or over the life of his first contract? That's a pretty big difference.

SBXVII 04-21-2009 08:43 AM

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I don't see us picking up a RB early in the draft if we even pick a RB. We still have Portis, who I think DS has adopted as his son, and Betts who some on here still think is the second coming, and Rock who is a one position player. The position coach did mention how he would like a scat back as a change of pace to spell Portis. He said that on Redskins Nation. We went out and picked up a speedy back from Canada who seems pretty decent but then went out and picked up the Bronco's last yrs RB pick who by all accounts was supposed to be the fastest man out of the draft last yr. His only knock was he had an ankle injury in preseason. Hopefully he can stay healthy and be our scat back.

I think if we make any move up in the draft it's for something else. Perhaps Sanchez, not my favorite pick, but could be an upgrade over JC. or perhaps a DE but we just signed all those aged players to a one yr contract I can see us utilizing them this yr and picking up a DE next yr. I think OT would be a good choice since someone mentioned on the boards that we had a 4th ranked Defense last yr but our offense lacked depth and talent. Hopefully this yr the talent steps up and we find depth somewhere.

John Denny 04-21-2009 10:20 AM

re: Other teams interest in Knowshon Moreno could benefit us...
 
[quote=SBXVII;547899]I don't see us picking up a RB early in the draft if we even pick a RB. We still have Portis, who I think DS has adopted as his son, and Betts who some on here still think is the second coming, and Rock who is a one position player. The position coach did mention how he would like a scat back as a change of pace to spell Portis. He said that on Redskins Nation. We went out and picked up a speedy back from Canada who seems pretty decent but then went out and picked up the Bronco's last yrs RB pick who by all accounts was supposed to be the fastest man out of the draft last yr. His only knock was he had an ankle injury in preseason. Hopefully he can stay healthy and be our scat back.

I think if we make any move up in the draft it's for something else. Perhaps Sanchez, not my favorite pick, but could be an upgrade over JC. or perhaps a DE but we just signed all those aged players to a one yr contract I can see us utilizing them this yr and picking up a DE next yr. I think OT would be a good choice since someone mentioned on the boards that we had a 4th ranked Defense last yr but our offense lacked depth and talent. Hopefully this yr the talent steps up and we find depth somewhere.[/quote]

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. If Moreno drops to us, there may be a few teams interested in trading up to our pick.

redsk1 04-21-2009 10:29 AM

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[quote=70Chip;547863]If Moreno goes to Philly it's worth 2 to 3 regular season wins for them. Bad news for us. This guy is a Superstar.[/quote]

KM is going to be really good. I'd love to have him but it aint going to happen.

I love CP and his entire game, but let's face it he's got a lot of miles on him and on average RB's tend to decline very fast. The worst part is we're "stuck" w/ him if he does b/c of his salary.

We do need a change of pace backup that can hit the home runs ala Sproles. I think KM is going to be a game changer. I'd be sick if Phily gets him. Westbrook and KM...ugggghh.

KingRaloIV 04-21-2009 10:52 AM

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Moreno would be an excellent addition to clinton. Two gamebreakers, who can block, catch, and explode out of the back field would make me extremely happy especially in the red zone, fourth quarters and November, December and January. That has been the skins problem for years clinton gets us in good situations but we cant finish with the running game because by the time we are close to scoring CP is beat up. We could use a versitle, all around back like Moreno to share the load. Betts is not the one he is a good back but not a gamebreaker. and he gets hurt easily! Rock is a special teamer! Unfortunately, that is to smart of a pick for the skins, well see!

SmootSmack 04-21-2009 10:54 AM

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[quote=John Denny;547938]I think you misunderstood what I was saying. If Moreno drops to us, there may be a few teams interested in trading up to our pick.[/quote]

I think more than a few people misunderstood and actually think you're saying draft Knowshon

MTK 04-21-2009 11:17 AM

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People posting without reading?

Par for the course.

freddyg12 04-21-2009 11:46 AM

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I would be surprised if someone trades up to get Moreno, but if Philly is interested that makes some sense given their recent behavior. They traded for Peters & paid him big, an uncharaacteristic move, and last year they broke the bank for samuel.

They already traded one of their 1st round picks & a couple others. wonder how many picks they'd be willing to part with? They usually value their picks & draft wisely. Maybe they're loading up for Andy/McNabb's last stand?

nimbh2 04-21-2009 12:09 PM

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heres a thought maybe we should draft the best player possible unless someone wants to give us a nice pick to trade up we have a few wholes to plug.

Soup's Uncle 04-21-2009 12:23 PM

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[quote=nimbh2;547982]heres a thought maybe we should draft the best player possible unless someone wants to give us a nice pick to trade up we have a few wholes to plug.[/quote]

I like commas too. And trading down.

redskingrove 04-21-2009 12:30 PM

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The Redskins also added a RB/specail teams player from Denver. That puts them at 4 backs. Sounds like Rock might be on the bubble. Redskins lockeroom has a thread of draft scenarios to expand on this topic.

Lotus 04-21-2009 12:36 PM

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I saw a mock which had Moreno going to Seattle at #4. I'm not saying that will happen, just mentioning it.

This is a good thread. Interest in Moreno may in fact help us score a good trade-down deal from several teams.

John Denny 04-21-2009 03:18 PM

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Moreno would really bolster our running game if we drafted him. Unfortunately, we have far too many needs to draft a RB. We need guys that open holes, not run through them. But if I had my choice between pick Sanchez or Moreno, I'd pick Moreno in a heart-beat.


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