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GTripp0012 05-28-2009 03:44 PM

PFT: LaCanfora to NFLN
 
[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/28/nfln-adds-another-insider/]ProFootballTalk.com - NFLN Adds Another Insider[/url]

I assume, but cannot confirm, that he is leaving the WaPo.

Either way, since his declining amount of sources within Redskins Park became obvious, this was inevitable.

Redskins_P 05-28-2009 03:51 PM

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Great! Now he can criticize the Redskins on NFLN! Glad he's leaving the washington post.....his act was getting real old on RI.

BigHairedAristocrat 05-28-2009 03:53 PM

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Good riddance.

JLC may be sports writer, but his constant vendetta against the skins had long since grown tiresome. As a result, he lost all his "inside" sources and RedskinsInsider hasn't provided us with a sliver of inside information in a long time. Perhaps now, the Washington Post can actually get some legitimate sources and provide Inside information now - instead of just regurgitating other sources.

Hopefully Jason Reid won't follow in JLC's footsteps and give us accurate and honest information without letting it get personal.

wilsowilso 05-28-2009 03:59 PM

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Love it. Absolutely could not stand that hack.

Brian Orakpo 05-28-2009 04:10 PM

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Im shocked the NFLN wants him. :laughing2

GMScud 05-28-2009 04:30 PM

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This is outstanding news. I guess the RI job will be Jason Reid's??

Paintrain 05-28-2009 04:30 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;560306]Good riddance.

JLC may be sports writer, but his constant vendetta against the skins had long since grown tiresome. As a result, he lost all his "inside" sources and RedskinsInsider hasn't provided us with a sliver of inside information in a long time. Perhaps now, the Washington Post can actually get some legitimate sources and provide Inside information now - instead of just regurgitating other sources.

Hopefully Jason Reid won't follow in JLC's footsteps and give us accurate and honest information without letting it get personal.[/quote]
I was going to say the same exact thing, just in about 120 less words. :)

freddyg12 05-28-2009 04:37 PM

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I always find I'm taking up for JLC. The Skins seem like a tough team to cover & he did a great job of getting info to us. True, this last year he didn't have the sources to break the stories, but that essentially is saying that at one time he did & the team adjusted to make sure things stayed in-house more.

Please at least distinguish between his opinion - the purpose of the blog - and his professional work as a reporter. I will agree that his opinion of the team soured more & more w/time & that showed through in his writing on the blog, but bottom line he still got a lot of stories to us before anyone else did.

I have a question for the warpath; do you want a reporter to do a GREAT job & constantly fill the RI w/info - good or bad, or would you rather have a reporter that just does his basic duties, gets a couple of quotes & doesn't ruffle any feathers?

Nflnick11 05-28-2009 04:37 PM

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This isn't definite, but good, cause he isn't good here, and probably will be fired there after his first year there, getting little to none info from around the league

53Fan 05-28-2009 04:42 PM

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How can I possibly express my feelings? How about.....LaCanfora's biased view of the Redskins makes me wanna :vomit:

skinsfan_nn 05-28-2009 04:57 PM

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If this happens I'm surprised they want that tard.....but more power to them. I certainly hope they take the fool, don't let the door hit you in the ass JLC! Good riddance!

Who's next...to be the outsider?

wilsowilso 05-28-2009 05:01 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;560324]I have a question for the warpath; do you want a reporter to do a GREAT job & constantly fill the RI w/info - good or bad, or would you rather have a reporter that just does his basic duties, gets a couple of quotes & doesn't ruffle any feathers?[/quote]

I want a reporter who isn't a hatchet man for the biggest paper that covers my team. The Washington Post and Dan Snyder had been at war ever since he took away all of those season tickets and it seemed JLC's sole purpose was to bleed the Skins at any and every chance.

Paintrain 05-28-2009 05:13 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;560324]I always find I'm taking up for JLC. The Skins seem like a tough team to cover & he did a great job of getting info to us. True, this last year he didn't have the sources to break the stories, but that essentially is saying that at one time he did & the team adjusted to make sure things stayed in-house more.

Please at least distinguish between his opinion - the purpose of the blog - and his professional work as a reporter. I will agree that his opinion of the team soured more & more w/time & that showed through in his writing on the blog, but bottom line he still got a lot of stories to us before anyone else did.

I have a question for the warpath; do you want a reporter to do a GREAT job & constantly fill the RI w/info - good or bad, or would you rather have a reporter that just does his basic duties, gets a couple of quotes & doesn't ruffle any feathers?[/quote] His bias and axe to grind bled over into his work reporting plenty of times. He'd always throw a jab in at Snyder and/or Cerrato. I'm not taking up for them, but be a professional. It was clear that his bias clouded his writing.

He also went out of his way to fluff for his sources/favorites. He wrote glowing things just in the past year about Derrick Frost, Leigh Torrence and Demetric Evans like they were Pro Bowlers that just weren't given a chance to shine. Please. They were obviously his guys and he fluffed for them. It was pathetic. Not at all sorry to see him go.

MTK 05-28-2009 05:24 PM

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Good for him, nice move up the ladder.

BigHairedAristocrat 05-28-2009 05:42 PM

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;560324]I always find I'm taking up for JLC. The Skins seem like a tough team to cover & he did a great job of getting info to us. True, this last year he didn't have the sources to break the stories, but that essentially is saying that at one time he did & the team adjusted to make sure things stayed in-house more.
[B]
Please at least distinguish between his opinion - the purpose of the blog - and his professional work as a reporter. I will agree that his opinion of the team soured more & more w/time & that showed through in his writing on the blog, but bottom line he still got a lot of stories to us before anyone else did.[/B]

I have a question for the warpath; do you want a reporter to do a GREAT job & constantly fill the RI w/info - good or bad, or would you rather have a reporter that just does his basic duties, gets a couple of quotes & doesn't ruffle any feathers?[/QUOTE]

I appreciate your willingness to play devil's advocate here, but you can't distinguish between his blogging and his reporting:

First of all, JLCs blog was more than just a place for him to place his opinion. It was titled Redskins Insider and was presented as a place to get inside information on the skins before anyone else. And for a while, thats exactly what it was. However, JLC decided to use his blog to make thinly vieled jabs at the skins. As a result, the skins stopped providing him as much information. So JLC retaliated by becoming more overt in his attacks, going so far as to accuse the de-facto GM of the team as being a slanderer and its owner as essentially being an idiot. As a result, the Skins completely blacklisted him. Not only did this affect his ability to provide inside information on his blog, but it also affected his primary job:

For a while, JLC was the primary WP reporter for the Skins. However, because of everything he did in his blog, was left without sources. What reporter can continue to do his job without multiple reliable sources?

JLC built up so much ill-will with the Redskins that it ruined his ability to be effective in both his "blog" and his "real job." Perhaps it was all part of a plan to distinguish himself and get his name out there so he could advance to the type of position he has now. If so, he did a marvelous job of it. But what JLC stopped being, a long time ago, was a good source for redskins fans to get inside information about the team.

I dont give a crap what a reskins beat reporter (whoever it is) thinks about my team. I don't want his opinion. I can form my own opinion based on the information he provides. If i need help forming an opinion, or want someone elses opinion, i can go to a forum like this one or read a different sports columnists' take on a certain situation.

Bottom line is this: that the guy who reports the news shouldn't opinionate on the news - otherwise, his ability to report becomes compromised. Hopefully Jason Reid will take note.

tryfuhl 05-28-2009 05:55 PM

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movin on upppp

BringBackJoeT 05-28-2009 07:07 PM

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I was happier for Bram Weinstein.

T.O.Killa 05-28-2009 07:29 PM

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The last few months the only thing that he did was scour the internet for news and then re-report it.

wolfeskins 05-28-2009 07:30 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;560323]I was going to say the same exact thing, just in about 120 less words. :)[/quote]


so.......you were going to say it in negative 206 words ? or would it be negative 34 ? i've confused myself. :confused:

Hog1 05-28-2009 08:25 PM

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He became a Pariah!
Maybe not that bad.......I just like the way that sounded

53Fan 05-28-2009 08:28 PM

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Pariah....has a nice ring to it.

53Fan 05-28-2009 08:29 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;560344]I appreciate your willingness to play devil's advocate here, but you can't distinguish between his blogging and his reporting:

First of all, JLCs blog was more than just a place for him to place his opinion. It was titled Redskins Insider and was presented as a place to get inside information on the skins before anyone else. And for a while, thats exactly what it was. However, JLC decided to use his blog to make thinly vieled jabs at the skins. As a result, the skins stopped providing him as much information. So JLC retaliated by becoming more overt in his attacks, going so far as to accuse the de-facto GM of the team as being a slanderer and its owner as essentially being an idiot. As a result, the Skins completely blacklisted him. Not only did this affect his ability to provide inside information on his blog, but it also affected his primary job:

For a while, JLC was the primary WP reporter for the Skins. However, because of everything he did in his blog, was left without sources. What reporter can continue to do his job without multiple reliable sources?

JLC built up so much ill-will with the Redskins that it ruined his ability to be effective in both his "blog" and his "real job." Perhaps it was all part of a plan to distinguish himself and get his name out there so he could advance to the type of position he has now. If so, he did a marvelous job of it. But what JLC stopped being, a long time ago, was a good source for redskins fans to get inside information about the team.

I dont give a crap what a reskins beat reporter (whoever it is) thinks about my team. I don't want his opinion. I can form my own opinion based on the information he provides. If i need help forming an opinion, or want someone elses opinion, i can go to a forum like this one or read a different sports columnists' take on a certain situation.

Bottom line is this: that the guy who reports the news shouldn't opinionate on the news - otherwise, his ability to report becomes compromised. Hopefully Jason Reid will take note.[/quote]

Very, very well said. :food-smil

SmootSmack 05-28-2009 08:34 PM

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NFLN is kidding themselves if they think he'll fill Schefter's shoes. Guess we'll get a healthy dose of Ravens' news now.

GMScud 05-28-2009 09:03 PM

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Seriously. JLC, in covering one and only one team, managed to piss off the VP/GM (Cerrato) to the point where he wouldn't speak to him (even on major team news/issues), had all of his inside sources dry up, and in the end couldn't even keep pace with the national media on Redskins' news despite that being his sole function.

His reporting reeked of bitterness and sour grapes, and at times seemed borderline unprofessional. Good luck with this guy, NFLN. How do they expect him to successfully keep up with 32 teams when his coverage of only one team got steadily worse over his time in DC?

mrreddman 05-28-2009 09:10 PM

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thats real talk GMScud.. JLC is a joke..

FRPLG 05-28-2009 09:44 PM

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To be honest at one point JLC was a serious leader in terms of the blogging and real insider type info. Now everyon e does what he is doing and he has burned some Skins bridges. It twas time for him to move on he got a good bump. Good for him...and good for us too.

backrow 05-28-2009 10:11 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;560306]Good riddance.


Hopefully Jason Reid won't follow in JLC's footsteps and give us accurate and honest information without letting it get personal.[/quote]

It won't be Jason Reid; the WaPo will promote .........................................................................................
wait for it........................................................................................................................................................................wait ....for.......it...........................................wait................................................for....................................it..................................Sally Jenkins!



Unconfirmed as of this time!


Nah! Never happen!




Man, I'd never read the WaPo Insider again if that happened!

BigHairedAristocrat 05-28-2009 10:56 PM

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[quote=backrow;560398]It won't be Jason Reid; the WaPo will promote .........................................................................................
wait for it........................................................................................................................................................................wait ....for.......it...........................................wait................................................for....................................it..................................Sally Jenkins!



Unconfirmed as of this time!


Nah! Never happen!




Man, I'd never read the WaPo Insider again if that happened![/quote]

LOL that was great!

WaldSkins 05-28-2009 11:02 PM

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Just give it to Michael Wilbon

Dirtbag59 05-29-2009 12:10 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;560375]NFLN is kidding themselves if they think he'll fill Schefter's shoes. Guess we'll get a healthy dose of Ravens' news now.[/quote]

Whoa whoa whoa! Wheres Schefter going? I mean if he's leaving I sure as hell had no idea what with NFL Network seemingly becoming NFL Films network during this point in the offseason.

Edit: Never mind, good for him going to Espen. However ESPN is stupid to think that Schefter can fill Sal Morten's shoes...what?

[quote=WaldSkins;560405]Just give it to Michael Wilbon[/quote]

That would be a step down for Wilbon going from co-host to correspondent. Especially when you go from ESPN to NFL Network. Not that NFLN is bad but consider the fact that virtually every cable provider carries ESPN.

Anyway one things for sure. NFL Network is slowly collecting people who seem to hate the Redskins. Casserly, Lombardi, and now JLC.

GMScud 05-29-2009 12:20 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;560415]Whoa whoa whoa! Wheres Schefter going? I mean if he's leaving I sure as hell had no idea what with NFL Network seemingly becoming NFL Films network during this point in the offseason.



That would be a step down for Wilbon going from co-host to correspondent. Especially when you go from ESPN to NFL Network. Not that NFLN is bad but consider the fact that virtually every cable provider carries ESPN.[/quote]

Schefter is heading to ESPN. Which leaves them awfully crowded with Clayton, Mortensen, Michael Smith, and now him. Add Paolantonio and Werder and you've got a lot of competition.

Larry Michael is Satan 05-29-2009 12:29 AM

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I guess I'm in the minority here, but I think JLC's opinions are generally on point. To imply that Vinny and Danny are egomaniac boobs isn't a grudge against the team, it is the truth. They are embarrassing, everyone in the league knows it, and it is not the Post's job to paint a sunny picture or make excuses for them. Vinny and Dan have a grudge against the Post because the Post doesn't "report" like the genius Larry Michael. I for one, am glad that the local print media isn't a lapdog for Daniel Snyder. He's an ass and the Post would have no credibility if they didn't occasionally point that out.

FRPLG 05-29-2009 12:43 AM

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[quote=Larry Michael is Satan;560418]I guess I'm in the minority here, but I think JLC's opinions are generally on point. To imply that Vinny and Danny are egomaniac boobs isn't a grudge against the team, it is the truth. They are embarrassing, everyone in the league knows it, and it is not the Post's job to paint a sunny picture or make excuses for them. Vinny and Dan have a grudge against the Post because the Post doesn't "report" like the genius Larry Michael. I for one, am glad that the local print media isn't a lapdog for Daniel Snyder. He's an ass and the Post would have no credibility if they didn't [B]occasionally [/B]point that out.[/quote]


You almost made it!! JLC goes out of his way far more than occasionally. It's pretty clear he doesn't like them (Snyderatto). Possibly for good reason. Of course maybe they don't like him for good reason also. I am not sure who started the grudge match but it has clearly become one. Now with JLC losing his grasp on insider info through exclusion and an exodus of sources he has essentially become a commentator. And everyone knows the saying about opinions. He isn't a football guy...he even admits it. Often his football conclusions seemed skewed. He does use knowledgeable sources to provide him a football minded opinion but it seems he only uses them when he wants to make a point about something he perceives the FO did wrong. Rarely do you see him whip out a "league source" when he wants to give the far more occasional chest bump. He comes off to me as a guy fulfilling his own opinions with sources he knows will back him up. Not to say that he doesn't have opinions that are decently grounded but when ALL opinions seem of the negative variety then something is up.

Larry Michael is Satan 05-29-2009 01:10 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;560419]You almost made it!! JLC goes out of his way far more than occasionally. It's pretty clear he doesn't like them (Snyderatto). Possibly for good reason. Of course maybe they don't like him for good reason also. I am not sure who started the grudge match but it has clearly become one. Now with JLC losing his grasp on insider info through exclusion and an exodus of sources he has essentially become a commentator. And everyone knows the saying about opinions. He isn't a football guy...he even admits it. Often his football conclusions seemed skewed. He does use knowledgeable sources to provide him a football minded opinion but it seems he only uses them when he wants to make a point about something he perceives the FO did wrong. Rarely do you see him whip out a "league source" when he wants to give the far more occasional chest bump. [B]He comes off to me as a guy fulfilling his own opinions with sources he knows [/B][B]will back him up[/B]. Not to say that he doesn't have opinions that are decently grounded but when ALL opinions seem of the negative variety then something is up.[/quote]

i agree with that, and dude does go overboard. I'm just saying that the Wash Post is not Redskins.com. I would LOVE to know some of what has gone on behind the scenes between the Post and the Skins. Something definitely stinks, and has for some time!

vallin21 05-29-2009 06:40 AM

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Good Bye JLC. You were always the last one to break news anyway.

SmootSmack 05-29-2009 06:47 AM

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The best part about JLC is how he dresses at press conferences. Seriously, you all should see this guy...with his hat to the back, FUBU shirt, he looks like he would have been Jamie Kennedy's uncle in Malibu's Most Wanted

backrow 05-29-2009 07:32 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;560433]The best part about JLC is how he dresses at press conferences. Seriously, you all should see this guy...with his hat to the back, FUBU shirt, he looks like he would have been Jamie Kennedy's uncle in Malibu's Most Wanted[/quote]

Do you think he will "bring the look" to NFLN?

FRPLG 05-29-2009 08:05 AM

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fubu? seriously? wow.

FRPLG 05-29-2009 08:06 AM

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I always got the feeling he's a super douche for some reason. Now maybe it was just the stench of poseur.

Kope 05-29-2009 08:07 AM

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two things:

One: JLC let his ego get in the way and fueled a pissing contest. He managed to do this with two great mentors in his office; Boswell and Wilbon - both great writers who can get negative points about teams out with out making it personal.

Two: After reading the point his information was diminishing over the last two years, I think that says a good bit about our lockerroom. And as I thought about how many chances we have had over the past few years for lockerroom implosion (IMO fueled at least in part by JLC) we should be thankful for the character on the team right now. One of the real positives we lose sight of.


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