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Pulling a Shawn Springs I guess

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/zorn-landry-hasnt-returned-cal.html]Redskins Insider - Zorn: Landry Hasn't Returned Calls[/url]

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Or an ST

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When he blows an assignment in the regular season and the next day Zorn says, 'Well we covered that in OTA's and he missed learning that play' then I will concern myself over his attendance in June. Otherwise, I'm not alarmed.

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So long as he isn't sitting at home munching on Louisiana food he'll be alright.

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He dosen't need this stupid shit, but he should at least be in contact with the coach if they are trying to reach him, I mean, the amount of money he makes warrants him to at least answer a call or text back!

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[quote=LandrySlice;561678]He dosen't need this stupid shit, but he should at least be in contact with the coach if they are trying to reach him, I mean, the amount of money he makes warrants him to at least answer a call or text back![/quote]

What's the callback threshold? Do players getting the veteran's minimum not have to call the coach back but those making over a million do?

I've never understood why what the players make is a leverage point for what they should or shouldn't do.

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One of the ironies of OTAs & nfl teams attempting to prepare in the off-season. What is supposed to be a team building & learning experience has the potential to be the opposite when guys don't show.

If players & coaches are upset by it then it's an issue, otherwise it should easily be forgotten by camp.

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This seems to be how Landry rolls I guess. He's also skipped countless autograph sessions and media interviews the past couple of years. It's unfortunate, but at the end of the day I just want him to show up on the field on Sundays in the fall (and the occasional Monday)

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Im fine with players staying home this time of year. I'd rather they be there, but I feel like after a 16+ game season, your body takes a beating. Give it a bit longer to recover. All they do is lift or run.

However, there's no excuse to ever not call the coach back. I can not condone that. Always call the coach/owner/gm back immediately.

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Kinda funny how Springs got ripped a new one for doing the same thing, but Landry seems to get a pass. Interesting.

Personally I don't have a problem with players skipping out on voluntary workouts.

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[quote=Mattyk72;561691]Kinda funny how Springs got ripped a new one for doing the same thing, but Landry seems to get a pass. Interesting.

Personally I don't have a problem with players skipping out on voluntary workouts.[/quote]

Is it the same thing though? Springs, in my opinion, shouldn't have gotten much grief. He's a proven veteran who was working out on his own in Arizona while trying to take care of sick family members at the same time. Plus, best as I can recall, he kept in communication with the team. Is the same thing going on with Landry? Doesn't seem that way.

Maybe he's out on the bayou rasslin' gators with Patrick Ramsey

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[quote=Mattyk72;561691]Kinda funny how Springs got ripped a new one for doing the same thing, but Landry seems to get a pass. Interesting.

Personally I don't have a problem with players skipping out on voluntary workouts.[/quote]

I don't generally have a problem with it, but as I pointed out in the OTA thread, he's literally the only player not there. So that's kind of a bummer. When every single player has the work ethic to show up, and one of our star players who I was hoping would have an interest in becoming a leader is MIA and doesn't even have the courtesy to return a phone call/text message.

Like SS said though, it's how he rolls. He seems like a douche.

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[quote=SmootSmack;561694]Is it the same thing though? Springs, in my opinion, shouldn't have gotten much grief. He's a proven veteran who was working out on his own in Arizona while trying to take care of sick family members at the same time. Plus, best as I can recall, he kept in communication with the team. Is the same thing going on with Landry? Doesn't seem that way.

Maybe he's out on the bayou rasslin' gators with Patrick Ramsey[/quote]

I could be wrong but I thought Springs wasn't returning calls or texts from Zorn last year.

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Yea, it is voluntary. Who cares if he comes in a has a good season. This is just the only thing to talk about right now.

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he is seriously on the wrong team to do that with what happened to ST.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;561711]he is seriously on the wrong team to do that with what happened to ST.[/quote]

huh? what does one thing have to do with the other?

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[quote=Mattyk72;561703]I could be wrong but I thought Springs wasn't returning calls or texts from Zorn last year.[/quote]

You're probably right, I lose track of who's calling who. But i thought I remember he was in touch with someone from the Redskins.

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[quote=Paintrain;561718]huh? what does one thing have to do with the other?[/quote]

I didn't get that either

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[Quote=SmootSmack]This seems to be how Landry rolls I guess. He's also skipped countless autograph sessions and media interviews the past couple of years. It's unfortunate, but at the end of the day I just want him to [u]show up on the field on Sundays in the fall[/u] (and the occasional Monday) [/quote]

I know we probably shouldnt give this any cred at all, but more tha one person has evidently suggested to Florio that Landry's endgame is not showing up on the field [I]for the Redskins [/I]on Sundays (and the occasional Monday) in the fall:

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/05/laron-landry-a-chronic-no-show-in-dc/]ProFootballTalk.com - LaRon Landry A Chronic No-Show In D.C.[/url][

[QUOTE]But is there a deeper issue? We’ve heard some suggestions that perhaps there could be, and whispers that Landry possibly wants out of D.C.

Indeed, the organization apparently assumes that Landry is working out a couple thousand miles from Redskins Park. “You don’t go to Arizona to become a player; maybe to get in shape but not to become a player,” Jackson said Wednesday.

But we’ve been told that, at least at times, Landry has been hanging out in the Washington area.

So we’ll keep an eye on this one. In the end, the player picked right before Adrian Peterson could be playing for another team.
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[B]IF[/B] (notice the bold) Landry feels, like many of us do, that Jackson isnt taking advantage of his skills in the current scheme (Landry should be playing SS, not FS), then I could see him wanting out. As a practical matter, if Landry isnt used properly, then it minimizes his ability to reach his maximum potential, go to pro-bowls, and ultimately get the biggest contract extension when his rookie deal expires.

Hopefully, this is just a baseless rumor. However, while its possible Landry may not want out of D.C., i tend to think there's more to Landrys absence than meets the eye.

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the good 'ol folks over at espn seem to think theres at least a possibility.

from the rumors section:

[quote]LaRon Landry, the sixth overall draft pick in 2007, has some folks in Washington upset as he's skipped the majority of OTA's for the Washington Redskins. Safeties coach Steve Jackson remarked to the Washington Examiner that he was "disappointed" in Landry's no-shows, and head coach Jim Zorn was quoted by the Washington Post's Redskins Insider blog as saying that he thinks Landry's non-attendance is "disappointing to his teammates as well".
It's uncertain whether taking the fatherly stance of "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" will work with Landry, a potential star player who is allegedly working out in Arizona this offseason. So far it's just been Jackson announcing his disappointment and Zorn indicating that he thinks the other players are disappointed, a far cry from being publicly called out by one of the veterans on the roster.

In spite of this, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk thinks that Landry could be angling to be traded, and has heard "suggestions" that there could be a more substantial issue with Landry's non-attendance at voluntary sessions during both preseasons of his NFL career.

As for 'Skins secondary coach Jerry Gray, he'd rather that Landry stick around, telling the Examiner, "LaRon can become an elite safety. He has the tools."[/quote]

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[quote=r08kessl;561734]the good 'ol folks over at espn seem to think theres at least a possibility.

from the rumors section:[/quote]

At least a possibility of what?

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[quote=r08kessl;561734]the good 'ol folks over at espn seem to think theres at least a possibility.

from the rumors section:[/quote]

Pure speculation. In fact I don't think I've ever seen speculation done so poorly, even for PFT. This is basically the equivalent of a weatherman guessing that it's going to snow in Florida. Sure it's possible and it's even happened at one point or another but no one's going to hold their breath.

Thats it I'm so putting this amazing insight on my Twitter page.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;561722]I know we probably shouldnt give this any cred at all, but more tha one person has evidently suggested to Florio that Landry's endgame is not showing up on the field [I]for the Redskins [/I]on Sundays (and the occasional Monday) in the fall:

[url=http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/05/laron-landry-a-chronic-no-show-in-dc/]ProFootballTalk.com - LaRon Landry A Chronic No-Show In D.C.[/url][



[B]IF[/B] (notice the bold) Landry feels, like many of us do, that Jackson isnt taking advantage of his skills in the current scheme (Landry should be playing SS, not FS), then I could see him wanting out. As a practical matter, if Landry isnt used properly, then it minimizes his ability to reach his maximum potential, go to pro-bowls, and ultimately get the biggest contract extension when his rookie deal expires.

Hopefully, this is just a baseless rumor. However, while its possible Landry may not want out of D.C., i tend to think there's more to Landrys absence than meets the eye.[/quote]
Nothing like a good old June conspiracy theory from PFT. He didn't show up for most of last year either, this isn't a big deal. If he had skipped the mandatory mini camp and/or holds out of training camp let me know, until there it's a whole bunch of nothing.

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I think it's a stretch to say he wants out.

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[quote=Mattyk72;561740]I think it's a stretch to say he wants out.[/quote]

Yeah what the hell! I've never heard about Landry wanting out before this thread and whatever rumor came up. Where would he want to play? Few defenses have the potential this one does now...

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I would hope it isn't true, but on the other hand, if he wants out & the team could somehow get a mint for him, let him go. As it is now, he's a good free safey but he's highly paid for the role he plays & I think it's a relatively deep position. K. Moore looks like he could work out.

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This whole "not returning calls/texts" thing just smacks of ego and self importance, not to mention unprofessional and passive aggressive. Kind of High School pouty girlfriend-ish. If I had to guess, I'd say her feelings are hurt from when Danny started paying more attention to D'Angelo halfway through last semester.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;561722]
[B]IF[/B] (notice the bold) Landry feels, like many of us do, that Jackson isnt taking advantage of his skills in the current scheme (Landry should be playing SS, not FS), then I could see him wanting out. As a practical matter, if Landry isnt used properly, then it minimizes his ability to reach his maximum potential, go to pro-bowls, and ultimately get the biggest contract extension when his rookie deal expires. [/quote]

Why would anyone including Laron Landry think he should be playing SS? That would be a tremendous waste of the fact that Landry is

a)the #1 fastest safety in the entire league. The resource of elite speed is best allocated to the essential coverage of open space responsibilities that are the paramount role of any safety in the first place.

b)not quite big enough to dish out punishment on the likes of Brandon Jacobs and Marion Barber without breaking down during the course of a season with the full time run stopping duties of a SS in the NFC East.

Landry is very versatile and could be a good SS, but it would be a massive waste of his talent which is 100% suited to FS in the NFL.

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Landry is not MIA.
This is the OFF SEASON. Leave the guy alone. Either the NFL changes the name of VOLUNATRY workouts to mandatory workouts or NFL coaches and FO people need to keep their mouths shut when a player decides to pass on voluntary WO's.
Why is Zorn airing team issues in the press? Zorn is the one that sounds like a child," I think it's disappointing to his teammates as well (that Landry is not here)," Zorn said. Some of the players were crying and very upset.

What is so life theatening that Landry needs to return these calls? To hear his coaches complain and try to guilt him to come in on his [B]off time[/B]? Landry is not a lazy fat cow like some of our other players that need to be watched, babied and put on diets. Landry is a fit professional and knows how to prepare for the season. The coaches are not installing a new playbook. They are not re-inventing the wheel. This is football not brain surgery.


The OTA's really geared to lazy guys our rookie WR's from last year that show up to their [B]first NFL camp [/B]and did care enough to be in shape, thus they played like shit.
Let Landry enjoy his time away from work and allow him to be a happy Redskin.

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[quote=saden1;561675]So long as he isn't sitting at home munching on Louisiana food he'll be alright.[/quote]
As for his exact location right now I can't tell you, But, I can confirm that Landry, his brother, and a former teammate at LSU are in the gym AT LEAST 5 days a week. A good friend of mine works out at the same gym in Slidell, ( where Laron lives), and says he sees them almost every time he goes. (4-5 days a week)

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Not a big deal however he should call his employer.

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Anyone who wants out, be my guest. Don 't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. I say if you don't want to be a Redskin then gtf out of dodge. We don't want you. Let's have a roster of guys who love the Redskin tradition and want to bust some NFC ass and let the other posers go play in Dallass.

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I am again showing my armchair nature(this time at the league level)
but if everyone shows up, I wonder if they would investigate about us making them more required than optional. Just a thought.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;561770]I am again showing my armchair nature(this time at the league level)[B]
but if everyone shows up, I wonder if they would investigate about us making them more required than optional. Just a thought[/B].[/quote]

Instead of your suggested conspiracy, I'm more inclined to think the team has done a great job assembling the kind of players who care enough about each other and winning to be there despite the "voluntary" label.

It also tells me that there is probably some good veteran leadership making sure the younger players understand how important OTA's are. I think you'd be hard pressed to find another team with every player except one in attendance for voluntary sessions. So I've got to tip my hat to our guys for that one.

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[quote=GMScud;561773]Instead of your suggested conspiracy, I'm more inclined to think the team has done a great job assembling the kind of players who care enough about each other and winning to be there despite the "voluntary" label.

It also tells me that there is probably some good veteran leadership making sure the younger players understand how important OTA's are. I think you'd be hard pressed to find another team with every player except one in attendance for voluntary sessions. So I've got to tip my hat to our guys for that one.[/quote]

See I believe that too, and I was not trying to suggest otherwise, only that if every one shows up, then the League may look more closely. I am really glad that everyone is there, and I would also expect that some bonuses are being earned by the high participation numbers.

I hope this all translates into great team camaraderie.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;561776]See I believe that too, and I was not trying to suggest otherwise, only that if every one shows up, then the League may look more closely. I am really glad that everyone is there, and I would also expect that some bonuses are being earned by the high participation numbers.

I hope this all translates into great team camaraderie.[/quote]

Yeah, I'd agree about the workout bonuses. They really are a win-win. The team gets more players at the park working on their conditioning, the playbook, and chemistry (which can improve chances of winning on Sundays), and the players get nice $$.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;561711]he is seriously on the wrong team to do that with what happened to ST.[/quote]

What the hell??

Anyway, why would Landry want out? He is one of the highest paid safeties in the league and has done nothing to deserve a new deal. This is meaningless.

I think it is more embarassing that our head coach admits to the national media that one of his players is ignoring him.

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Laron gets traded I will be pissed. I do believe that he does not like the way he is being used in Blache's scheme. He was complaing that we were no getting enough pass rush to help out with the interceptions. I do believe his natural position is strong safety not free safety. Landry is not a ball hawk, he is an enforcer that dishes out punishments causing fumbles. I really want to see how he would do with D. Hall the entire year and the addition of Haynesworth. I wish also that he does not want out of D.C.

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As much it would be nice for Landry to show up at OTAs, but just like some people said in the thread: it is VOLUNTARY activities.. And I'm absolutely certain that Landry is keeping in shape and all that stuff..

It's somewhat embarrassing when Zorn announces to media that Landry refuses to return his calls.. But it appears Zorn isn't only one who's "disappointed" in Landry..

(I'm not giving this as an ammo to Landry bashers, but just to show that Zorn isn't only one): [url=http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-11-33/Redskins--safeties-coach-Jackson-calls-out-Landry.html]Redskins' safeties coach Jackson calls out Landry - NFC East - ESPN[/url]

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As a coach,not on the high level and just coach younger kids baseball,when a player doesnt show it is hard to go through what you need to.