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I really like the last paragraph by Dukes.

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That's sad, they have Philip Daniels listed as a "loss" for the year in the video, along with Jason Taylor, Shawn Springs. No one caught that at all at the studio?? Come on guys - they've got to some research, instead of riding Dallas every year.

Hope the big fella does well for us for one more year!

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I agree with 17 we are an average at best team unless JC becomes McNabb overnight... 9 wins should be a realistic goal this year. Phi, Ny and Dal are all better right now.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;565210]I agree with 17 we are an average at best team unless JC becomes McNabb overnight... 9 wins should be a realistic goal this year. Phi, Ny and Dal are all better right now.[/quote]

I agree with you. I don't see the drastic improvement in our team overall to make us competitive we our NFC E foes.

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[quote=ethat001;565207]That's sad, they have Philip Daniels listed as a "loss" for the year in the video, along with Jason Taylor, Shawn Springs. No one caught that at all at the studio?? Come on guys - they've got to some research, instead of riding Dallas every year.

Hope the big fella does well for us for one more year![/quote]
yeah i saw that too, pretty funny

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Man I'm getting antsy and sick of the speculation. Without a full crumble like last year we can definitely be a formidable opponent. We never know what team is just going to click into it, which teams will crumble, who might get injured.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;565213]I agree with you. I don't see the drastic improvement in our team overall to make us competitive we our NFC E foes.[/quote]

were we not competitive with the east last season ? we lost both to the g-men, split with dallas and swept the eagles, that 3 wins and 3 losses, thats competitive.
i would think our offense will be improved this year because of a better o-line, better qb play and more help at the wr position do to this being the second year in the system. i would also think our defense will be improved this year, maybe not in the overall rankings, but in different areas such as qb pressure, sacks and turnovers. couple an already improved offense with a defense that gives our offense more opportunities to score and you have the makings of a better team, which should equall more wins. two more wins should put the skins in the playoffs.

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[quote=wolfeskins;565357][B]were we not competitive with the east last season ?[/B] we lost both to the g-men, split with dallas and swept the eagles, that 3 wins and 3 losses, thats competitive.
i would think our offense will be improved this year because of a better o-line, better qb play and more help at the wr position do to this being the second year in the system. i would also think our defense will be improved this year, maybe not in the overall rankings, but in different areas such as qb pressure, sacks and turnovers. couple an already improved offense with a defense that gives our offense more opportunities to score and you have the makings of a better team, which should equall more wins. [B]two more wins should put the skins in the playoffs.[/B][/quote]

Yes, we were competitive in the division last year. The four teams in the division are actually pretty close in terms of talent and preparation. The problem is that we lost to juggernauts like the Bengals.

And yes, 2 more wins puts us at 10-6, which would have made the playoffs last year.

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[quote=Lotus;565358]Yes, we were competitive in the division last year. The four teams in the division are actually pretty close in terms of talent and preparation. The problem is that we lost to juggernauts like the Bengals.

And yes, 2 more wins puts us at 10-6, which would have made the playoffs last year.[/quote]

dont forget the winless rams and the crappy 49ers. i agree we need improvemnt. i just feel like the skins will get the improvement they need and we will see a better team this season.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;565210]I agree with 17 we are an average at best team unless JC becomes McNabb overnight... 9 wins should be a realistic goal this year. Phi, Ny and Dal are all better right now.[/quote]

How can you easily dismiss our team as "average at best" and claim that all the other teams in the conference are automatically better? Right now if I were to give you a pessimistic outcome I would tell you that NYG has the best chance of taking the conference (if they had a true #1 receiver to replace Burress I would consider them a SB contender); Philly can get to the playoffs as long as Westbrook is healthy (and McNabb's too, even though he hasn't been injured he'll be 33 this season) and their young wideouts help their offense; finally I would put us and Dallas as the question marks who could make it to the playoffs, depending on certain outcomes (WAS: AH makes the defense elite, our healthy/somewhat younger line holds up, Campbell plays well all season; DAL: Roy Williams lives up to the hype/price, Wade Phillips doesn't lose control of the team, Romo doesn't choke).

Needless to say, there is a lot of offseason to go and right now it is too early to make any type of predictions. At least wait until training camp to dismiss our teams chances.


[quote=Skinny Tee;565213]I agree with you. I don't see the drastic improvement in our team overall to make us competitive we our NFC E foes.[/quote]

What would you consider a drastic improvement? I mean getting Haynesworth, Orakpo, and Dockery are pretty drastic improvements. Along with the fact that the entire team will be going into a second year under the same coaching regime for the first time in a long time.

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It's a valid ranking I think, to be 17. We made some nice improvements, but mostly on a defense that was already 4th overall, 6th in scoring. Adding Dockery and few other band-aids on the O-line isn't going to take us to the next level. We need what we already have offensively to improve - JC, the redshirt pass catchers (Thomas, Kelly, Davis), and the second year in the WCO. Otherwise, we'll be a middle of the road team again.

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17 seems pretty fair .. I still believe that somehow someway our team will finally "click" or "gel" and get this thing movin' .. 10-6 and were tough as nails heading into the playoffs !

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[quote=GMScud;565379]It's a valid ranking I think, to be 17. We made some nice improvements, but mostly on a defense that was already 4th overall, 6th in scoring. Adding Dockery and few other band-aids on the O-line isn't going to take us to the next level. We need what we already have offensively to improve - JC, the redshirt pass catchers (Thomas, Kelly, Davis), and the second year in the WCO. Otherwise, we'll be a middle of the road team again.[/quote]
That 4th ranking is not the important factor. Anywhere from 1 to 5 is something to hang your hat on. The improvement will come when we are able to get defensive turnovers, and give JC and Co. more chances to score. Not to mention the possibility for defensive touchdowns. 17 ranking is fair but we added great components to one of the most fundamentally sound defenses in the NFL. That is why we will move in to the upper half.

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I think it's as much on Zorn as it is on Campbell. For a guy who was originally hired to be the Offense Coordinator to average 16 points a game is cause for concern. He's proven nothing. Everyone points to the 6-2 start, but that could have been a fluke, and the 2-6 finish could be what we get with Zorn's offense moving forward. Every team experiences injuries, and we had the same WRs all season, so no excuses.

The D should be all-world. This season will answer 2 questions: Is Zorn a good coach and is Campbell a bonafied NFL starter?

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[quote=44Deezel;565395]I think it's as much on Zorn as it is on Campbell. For a guy who was originally hired to be the Offense Coordinator to average 16 points a game is cause for concern. He's proven nothing. [B] Everyone points to the 6-2 start, but that could have been a fluke, and the 2-6 finish could be what we get with Zorn's offense moving forward.[/B] Every team experiences injuries, and we had the same WRs all season, so no excuses.

The D should be all-world. This season will answer 2 questions: Is Zorn a good coach and is Campbell a bonafied NFL starter?[/quote]

Could be. Or maybe Kendall fumbling the ball and losing to the Rams was a fluke. Maybe not calling a TD or blowing the play dead when Sellers was sticking the ball over the goal line that resulted in a fumble and a loss against Cincinnati was a fluke. Without those 2 losses on freak plays, we'd have made the playoffs.

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[quote=53Fan;565405]Could be. Or maybe Kendall fumbling the ball and losing to the Rams was a fluke. Maybe not calling a TD or blowing the play dead when Sellers was sticking the ball over the goal line that resulted in a fumble and a loss against Cincinnati was a fluke. Without those 2 losses on freak plays, we'd have made the playoffs.[/quote]

I agree, I'm more apt to call the 2-6 slide the fluke. Injuries piled up and took their toll and as you point out some odd plays went against us.

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That last game v. SF might be foreshadowing; JC led the team down to a game tying td, but the defense couldn't hold SF.

I'm not penciling in this defense to carry the team as it has in the past. I think they'll have big games, but I also think the 4th overall ranking was a bit misleading by the end of the year. They're not a dominant unit & a couple injuries can derail them quite a bit. I know AH is obviously a big addition, but I think the expectations of the pass rush are a bit optimistic by many here. Orakpo is still a rook, expect a rookie like season not 10+ sacks.

I think the O will improve but not be able to score td's against the tougher defenses. I think JC is gonna 'fight his guts out' & really step up as a leader, but I don't know that the pieces are in place for this unit to be above avg. Not knowing what we have at RT yet is a big part of that.

Overall, 17 is very fair & objective at this point. This team has a lot to prove.

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[quote=44Deezel;565395]I think it's as much on Zorn as it is on Campbell. For a guy who was originally hired to be the Offense Coordinator to average 16 points a game is cause for concern. He's proven nothing. Everyone points to the 6-2 start, but that could have been a fluke, and the 2-6 finish could be what we get with Zorn's offense moving forward. Every team experiences injuries, and we had the same WRs all season, so no excuses.

The D should be all-world. This season will answer 2 questions: Is Zorn a good coach and is Campbell a bonafied NFL starter?[/quote]

I am very worried about Zorn. Maybe since he had limited time last year is why everything looked the way it did, but it seemed like we had a very limited playbook and when we played tougher defenses at the end of the season it seemed like they figured it out. I mean when I think of Zorn I think Campbell hike, fake pass, hand-off to Portis working the first few games and then never working again. I wish I saw another play off that, like a fake pass, play action. I remember a lot of bubble screens to Moss and HB screens to Portis and them being much less effective after the first few games. The thing I'm most worried about next season is not Haynesworth or Campbell or any player it's Zorn. I really don't know about him and whether he can make the offense work. I want him to be the guy, but I have no clue if he will be.

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I don't think Zorn could install as much of the offense as he would have liked last year. Everyone was learning a new system including the coaches. He made mistakes which is to be expected for a rookie HC, but I expect the offense to expand this year and run smoother.

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[quote=freddyg12;565412]That last game v. SF might be foreshadowing; JC led the team down to a game tying td, but the defense couldn't hold SF.

I'm not penciling in this defense to carry the team as it has in the past. I think they'll have big games, but I also think the 4th overall ranking was a bit misleading by the end of the year. They're not a dominant unit & a couple injuries can derail them quite a bit. I know AH is obviously a big addition, but I think the expectations of the pass rush are a bit optimistic by many here. Orakpo is still a rook, expect a rookie like season not 10+ sacks.[/quote]

I'm fully expecting the defense to carry it's weight even more than it has in prior years. Haynesworth will tie up multiple blockers which will only help everyone else along the d-line in getting after the QB. And he's not too shabby in getting after the QB himself. I think his impact will be huge.

Rookie or not, Orakpo has the ability to make an immediate impact in the pass rush.

With an improved pass rush it should help take pressure off the secondary and it should also lead to more turnovers.

A defense that was already solid should be more of an impact D this year.

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[quote=Mattyk72;565422]I'm fully expecting the defense to carry it's weight even more than it has in prior years. Haynesworth will tie up multiple blockers which will only help everyone else along the d-line in getting after the QB. And he's not too shabby in getting after the QB himself. I think his impact will be huge.

Rookie or not, Orakpo has the ability to make an immediate impact in the pass rush.

With an improved pass rush it should help take pressure off the secondary and it should also lead to more turnovers.

A defense that was already solid should be more of an impact D this year.[/quote]

Hope you're right but at the end of last season I saw a defense that probably was overachieving. AH should be huge & should impact the pass rush, but to what degree? Will they get 5, 10 more sacks? 20% more hurries? The pass rush might improve but I don't look for AH to make an extreme difference in that regard. Somebody has to emerge as a legit pass rusher on the edge.

Both end spots are still questionable w/Rak being a rookie & AC not having a great year pass rushing in 08 (he has improved v. the run). LB still remains a concern too, though I give them credit for addressing it in the offseason.

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im not sure how to respond to an actual football thread?

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With Haynesworth in the mix I don't think it's crazy to think Carter can't return to form and get close to double digit sacks. I guess I just have more confidence in Orakpo than some too. I think he will be a legit pass rush threat from the word go.

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[quote=an23dy;565414]I am very worried about Zorn. Maybe since he had limited time last year is why everything looked the way it did, but it seemed like we had a very limited playbook and when we played tougher defenses at the end of the season it seemed like they figured it out. I mean when I think of Zorn I think Campbell hike, fake pass, hand-off to Portis working the first few games and then never working again. I wish I saw another play off that, like a fake pass, play action. I remember a lot of bubble screens to Moss and HB screens to Portis and them being much less effective after the first few games. The thing I'm most worried about next season is not Haynesworth or Campbell or any player it's Zorn. I really don't know about him and whether he can make the offense work. I want him to be the guy, but I have no clue if he will be.[/quote]

We had the same talent the year before, so the excuses about personnel don't fly with me. The telling game for me was the last game of the season against San Fran. With absolutely nothing on the line and playing against a very mediocre defense, the offensive stats were pathetic. I get that our O line was dinged up, but we weren't playing the Steelers Or Ravens. I believe Campbell had 156 yards passing? I would rather have seen him force passes into to coverage and throw 5 INTS than see him throw for 156 yards.

I just hope the 2-6 finish wasn't because Zorn got figured out. I like Zorn, but it's not unreasonable to think he might just be a bad head coach. After all, it ain't the easiest job in the world, and even Gibbs struggled in his second stint.

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[quote=an23dy;565414]I am very worried about Zorn. Maybe since he had limited time last year is why everything looked the way it did, but [B]it seemed like we had a very limited playbook[/B] and when we played tougher defenses at the end of the season it seemed like they figured it out. I mean when I think of Zorn I think Campbell hike, fake pass, hand-off to Portis working the first few games and then never working again. I wish I saw another play off that, like a fake pass, play action. I remember a lot of bubble screens to Moss and HB screens to Portis and them being much less effective after the first few games. The thing I'm most worried about next season is not Haynesworth or Campbell or any player it's Zorn. I really don't know about him and whether he can make the offense work. I want him to be the guy, but I have no clue if he will be.[/quote]

Yup. In an article on another thread here JC claims that last year we had only about 50 passing plays because everyone was learning a new system. JC says that we now have about 130 pass plays.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;565210]I agree with 17 we are an average at best team unless JC becomes McNabb overnight... 9 wins should be a realistic goal this year.[B] Phi, Ny and Dal are all better right now[/B].[/quote]


I disagree. Everyone is riding Philli's jock right now. Talking about how McNabb is healthy, how he has some weapons now, everyone has them listed as the #1 team to beat this yr or atleast everyone (media and mags) are listing Philli as #1. McNabb was healthy last yr and couldn't do anything. Their RB Westbrook is constantly getting injured each yr due to over use because they have no WR's. Yes they had one good WR Desean Jackson (rookie) last yr who avoids contact. Put a CB on him or Safety that likes to hit and he wiffs. Yes they picked up a WR, TE, and CB this yr. So simply because the Eagles picked up a new WR the team now has weapons? Look what happened to our WR's Kelly was injured prior to season but take a better look at Thomas. He was healthy and still barely was used. What makes everyone think one WR Maclin (rookie) will solve their problems and make them SB bound? Mark my words Maclin will have to adjust no different then all the other WR's that have ever come out. Give him two yrs. This yr may be Jackson's decent yr but he will need help no different then Moss needs help. Their TE Ingram (rookie), will have an adjustment period also. Cooley is one of the best and he even had trouble his first yr in the league learning all the routes, blocking, and speed of the game. Now if you want to talk about their ability next yr or the yr after then they might be a contender. They don't scare me. We beat the Eagles twice last yr. I see two more wins this yr.

Dallas, They lost 2 ILB; Burnett and Thomas, 2 Safeties; Davis and Williams, 1 DE Canty, 1 CB Henry (I'm not counting Pac-Man), and their best offensive weapon 1 WR Owens. If anyone thinks a bunch of rookies are going to come in and fill these gaps and make them a SB bound team is mistaken. Magazines have Dallas listed as #3 for the season. Ok they picked up 1 ILB Brooking, 1 DE Olshansky, and 1 SS Sensabaugh. If anything I would have picked Dallas to give the Giants a better run for their money over Philli.

Giants, The Giants had some key losses on offense 2 WR's Toomer and Burress and yet they made most of their non draft additions on defense? go figure. Besides the WR they lost 2 Safeties Butler and Knight, 1 PR McQuarters, and 1 RB Ward. Everything offensively was picked up in the draft 2 WR's, 2 CB's, 1 TE, and 1 RB. I have not listed all the additions for every team from the draft but the essential ones. I think the Giants will struggle with the WR issue. To be honest I see either the rest of the division catching up or the Giants falling off their pedistal.

So let me drink from the Skins cool aid water bucket. We have not lost any major key people. We have kept most of our players. We should have a better understanding of the offensive scheme Zorn is implimenting. We will have 2 WR's Thomas and Kelly who will be in their second yr and have a better understanding of the offense. In other words they will contribute more then last yr. Our TE Davis will be better for the same reasons and will leave us with 2 pass catching TE's. We brought in Dockery who will shore up the left side and Samuels will not have to worry about assisting the Guard position in his blocking duties. Our only question is the right side of our line. I think Williams will supprise, Heyer will be better, and have brought in Bridges. Our #4 defense will be a lot better with AH taking on some double teams, and Orakpo will be better help then Taylor was. Our secondary is a lot better then any of the other teams in our division and talk has been made that our WR corps is better also. Yet we are listed as last for this yrs division. I think the Skins will supprise. Just my drunkeness from the cool aid.

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That's good stuff. Especially the points about Philly. I still remember a smug McNabb saying that it was a fluke that they lost.

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The only bad things people...media and mags can say about the Skins is 4 key issues and honestly 2 should not be on the list. They talk about our pass rush ability....ok, they are right. In my opinion we shored up that issue with AH and Orakpo. Next they talk about our WR issues and not having a viable WR to compliment Moss. They are correct. but do they honestly think the two WR's we picked up last yr who were both projected to be 1st rounders are busts? I have to immagine one will step up and honestly I feel both will. As long as we don't have any more injuries. The last two are the ones I have issues with. They mention that either JC is not a decent starting QB, which if I'm not mistaken was already proven last yr when he went 8 games and was on his way to be MVP and had no interceptions. I'm not calling him a Peyton Manning yet but he's servicable as long as he has protection and has more plays to utilize. Plus a 2 min. drill. I'll even over look his issues with reading the defense. and our last issue is Zorn. They think he had trouble his first yr he will have trouble his second. Maybe, but he implimented only [B]half[/B] of his play book. One has to think it was better then handing the players a 700 page play book. So the team goes from 50 plays to 130 as of now and maybe more by season start. Honestly having one if not both WR's stepping up, having more plays to pick from and a better understanding of what's happening on the field the team will be better then 8-8. I was not a Zorn fan but I will go out on a limb and say I think this is Zorn's yr to shine. As a whole I think Zorn, JC, and the team will be better. How much is the question? I like to think we would do better then one extra game. In other words better then 9-7 but the team has supprised me before.

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[quote=SBXVII;565563]The only bad things people...media and mags can say about the Skins is 4 key issues and honestly 2 should not be on the list. They talk about our pass rush ability....ok, they are right. In my opinion we shored up that issue with AH and Orakpo. Next they talk about our WR issues and not having a viable WR to compliment Moss. They are correct. but do they honestly think the two WR's we picked up last yr who were both projected to be 1st rounders are busts? I have to immagine one will step up and honestly I feel both will. As long as we don't have any more injuries. The last two are the ones I have issues with. They mention that either JC is not a decent starting QB, which if I'm not mistaken was already proven last yr when he went 8 games and was on his way to be MVP and had no interceptions. I'm not calling him a Peyton Manning yet but he's servicable as long as he has protection and has more plays to utilize. Plus a 2 min. drill. I'll even over look his issues with reading the defense. and our last issue is Zorn. They think he had trouble his first yr he will have trouble his second. Maybe, but he implimented only [B]half[/B] of his play book. One has to think it was better then handing the players a 700 page play book. So the team goes from 50 plays to 130 as of now and maybe more by season start. Honestly having one if not both WR's stepping up, having more plays to pick from and a better understanding of what's happening on the field the team will be better then 8-8. I was not a Zorn fan but I will go out on a limb and say I think this is Zorn's yr to shine. As a whole I think Zorn, JC, and the team will be better. How much is the question? I like to think we would do better then one extra game. In other words better then 9-7 but the team has supprised me before.[/quote]Good post, I'll even add one thing.

If you told me that a consensus above average team would have one of the easiest five schedules in the league...and would not make the playoffs, I would instantly question your credibility. Alas, this logical misstructure is quite commonplace in the national media.

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[quote=44Deezel;565395]I think it's as much on Zorn as it is on Campbell. For a guy who was originally hired to be the Offense Coordinator to average 16 points a game is cause for concern. He's proven nothing.[B] Everyone points to the 6-2 start, but that could have been a fluke, and the 2-6 finish could be what we get with Zorn's offense moving forward.[/B] Every team experiences injuries, and we had the same WRs all season, so no excuses. [/quote]What you say is potentially true, but you're also serving the number one media dichotomy in the process: the one which suggests that the team went from good to bad in the week between the Lions and Steelers games.

No one in the world would have dared called the 4-1 start a fluke. The Redskins beat up on one quality opponent after another for four straight weeks, until they were just a half game behind the Giants for the NFC East lead. That was simply us being a better team than the competition, which included the two teams who played in the NFC Championship scatted amongst the Cowboys and the Saints.

Of course, that team would have totally crushed the Rams, Browns and Lions if it was more than a short-lived mirage. Those games wouldn't have been remotely close. And despite a 2-1 record that probably should have been 3-0, we knew about the time that we beat the Lions that we weren't as good as the 4-1 start.

At the time we were 6-2, but we had been for three weeks like the team who would play in the next 5 games. There wasn't a special date where 40 players decided to wake up and mail it in. Nothing changed. We added D-Hall. That's it. Samuels was still hurting, Jansen/Rabach/and Thomas were already struggling, Moss had totally disappeared (save a token 150 yard performance vs Detroit), Portis was only producing against the worst run defenses in the league. Then the competition got better and we went 1-4. Well duh, we weren't a better team than anyone we lost to.

Between Weeks 6 and 14, we went 3-5, and probably should have gone 4-4 with any justice. But that's who we were for the vast majority of the season: an .800 team with everyone healthy, and a .500 team after the bumps and bruises of an NFL season. We probably deserved to be a 7-6 team, plus or minus a game.

And the last three weeks, you weren't watching the team you were the rest of the year. You were watching some backups play some other backups, with a shameful performance from Donovan McNabb thrown in between. It's hard to believe we'll reach that point again in the next ten years, because most of those starters probably shouldn't have been in the league, for various reasons. [B]

Again, there was no magical point at which the team forgot how to play football. The competition after the bye was simply harder.[/B]

So when this team is 9-4 in Week 15 this year, you'll probably be watching much of the same sort of offensive and defensive failures of the 2008 team. But the successes will be far more numerous and far less fleeting.

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[quote=44Deezel;565395]I think it's as much on Zorn as it is on Campbell. For a guy who was originally hired to be the Offense Coordinator to average 16 points a game is cause for concern. He's proven nothing. Everyone points to the 6-2 start, but that could have been a fluke, and the 2-6 finish could be what we get with Zorn's offense moving forward. Every team experiences injuries, and we had the same WRs all season, so no excuses.

The D should be all-world. This season will answer 2 questions: Is Zorn a good coach and is Campbell a [B]bonafied[/B] NFL starter?[/quote]

I laugh everytime I hear that word. It reminds me of the movie "O' Brother Where Art Thou?" I want to know where one goes to get bonafied. Do you think that it will look good on my resume? Will it help my chances of success in today's civilization?

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[quote=Angry;565625]I laugh everytime I hear that word. It reminds me of the movie "O' Brother Where Art Thou?" I want to know where one goes to get bonafied. Do you think that it will look good on my resume? Will it help my chances of success in today's civilization?[/quote]

You may already be one and don't know it. Your could be a "bonafied" pessimistic person. :O

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[quote=skinsfaninok;565210]I agree with 17 we are an average at best team unless JC becomes McNabb overnight... 9 wins should be a realistic goal this year. Phi, Ny and Dal are all better right now.[/quote]

Well 17 JC is our best Qb on the roster at this time so we better be pulling for him to succeed. I hope you dont think we would be better with Colt starting?

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[quote=stu_nna;565389]That 4th ranking is not the important factor. Anywhere from 1 to 5 is something to hang your hat on. The improvement will come when we are able to get defensive turnovers, and give JC and Co. more chances to score. Not to mention the possibility for defensive touchdowns. 17 ranking is fair but we added great components to one of the most fundamentally sound defenses in the NFL. That is why we will move in to the upper half.[/quote]

A fan who understands how the game is played. We had a nice defense last year but lacked turnovers. How can a team with such a good defense lose to the Rams, Bengals and 49ers? How because our defense could not make the big plays ( Ints for TD, FR for TD, Sacks FF, return for TD). Our defense is not on par with the Steelers, Ravens,Eagles( force turnovers) this year we need explosive plays which result in turnovers for short fields and defense TD's. This will greatly help our offense, you just wait and see.