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Skins4Eva 07-28-2009 02:16 PM

Jarmon signed
 
Here's the link...

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Sign_Jarmon_to_Rookie_Contract_44636.jsp]Redskins Sign Jarmon to Rookie Contract[/url]


Now time to get Mr. Orakpo locked up!

Crash 07-28-2009 02:17 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Skins4Eva;570582]Here's the link...

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Sign_Jarmon_to_Rookie_Contract_44636.jsp]Redskins Sign Jarmon to Rookie Contract[/url]


[B]Now time to get Mr. Orakpo locked up[/B]![/quote]


Agreed

CRedskinsRule 07-28-2009 02:23 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Outstanding

skinsfan_nn 07-28-2009 02:25 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Good deal...one to go! It's the big boy!

MTK 07-28-2009 02:29 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Just need some guys that were drafted around Orakpo to get signed and his deal will fall into place quickly.

BleedBurgundy 07-28-2009 02:34 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
anyone know how his contract stacks up with other "3rd rounders?" It might be an interesting point that by getting this guy in the supplemental draft and using our pick a year early, we're actually saving money because of the annual jump of the salaries, i.e. a 2009 3rd rd pick is cheaper than a 2010 3rd rd pick.

freddyg12 07-28-2009 03:40 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
tomorrow night is likely when rak signs

dmek25 07-28-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=freddyg12;570615]tomorrow night is likely when rak signs[/quote]
i hope your right. but what makes you think so?

over the mountain 07-28-2009 03:50 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
i really like the personality and mind set of this jarmon kid from everything ive read. seemed like he was a good student, hard worker, quality person even did some college plays.

just comes across so far as a well grounded appreciative guy who will hold himself accountable, seems like he he set the example for on the field and off the field stuff for the wildcats too.

i just really like humble hard working players like this (i think orakpo is also of the same mind set - quality person who only wants to live breath and think football)

good job by the skins in drafting talent and dedication.

go skins!!

JLee9718 07-28-2009 04:29 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Getting Jarmon signed is a relief! Now all we need is a big improvement in the O-line. I know I keep saying this, and I hate to state the obvious, but we're in for a losing season if we don't get stronger there.

RedskinRat 07-28-2009 04:34 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
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Jarmon it......no? Too much of a stretch?

:Smoker:

NYCskinfan82 07-28-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Great news, now sign Orakpo.

SBXVII 07-28-2009 05:03 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Mattyk72;570591]Just need some guys that were drafted around Orakpo to get signed and his deal will fall into place quickly.[/quote]

Not necessarily. As long as someone prior to him gets signed they can pretty much figure out what he will make and the top two plus one other has been signed prior to his draft spot. I'm betting it's just finalizing the finer details

CRedskinsRule 07-28-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=JLee9718;570629]Getting Jarmon signed is a relief! Now all we need is a big improvement in the O-line. [B]I know I keep saying this[/B], and I hate to state the obvious, but we're in for a losing season if we don't get stronger there.[/quote]

See, I know this is the weak spot, and it's worth mentioning, right after the draft, but at that the same time, who could the FO have brought in that would have made a huge upgrade? Who could they bring in now?

Since you keep saying it, I will keep saying my counterpoint. Our Line is deep (except Samuels) with mid level talent. Teams have won with lesser lines, and every position has a backup who can come in and maintain the level(I am kinda giving E. Williams (C) a boost here, but I don't think he would be a noticeable drop from Rabach). If after one or 2 preseason games, we see we don't have a player to sub in for Samuels, we will have to look at the other teams cuts, but overall, we should be able to plug and chug with the best of the teams. This is different then last year when our 1st line was tattered(Kendall Thomas Heyer), and our second line couldn't keep up (Jansen and Geisinger). Our First line is younger (fresher) and our second is more able. This is my belief, with the understanding that a backup LT will be an invaluable pickup at some point (Levi Jones after he knows he's not gonna start for some other team and lowers his pay req'ts)

MTK 07-28-2009 05:44 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=SBXVII;570636]Not necessarily. As long as someone prior to him gets signed they can pretty much figure out what he will make and the top two plus one other has been signed prior to his draft spot. I'm betting it's just finalizing the finer details[/quote]

um yeah that's what I meant

ethat001 07-28-2009 06:28 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Just saw his video with Al Michaels on Redskins.com. He really seems like a good guy, the kind of guy you want in the locker room. Great pickup!

I hope he's a quick study and can beef up in the weight room ASAP. We may need him if someone goes down..

Of course, I was also excited about Erasmus last year who failed me.. But in contrast Jarmon is a promising rookie who has great potential (vs. Erasmus who was an injured bust who we tried out)..

vallin21 07-28-2009 07:15 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Being that we're in a recession this is going to be a slow process. Like Matty said, if the guys around him don't start signing then most likely he won't be here the 1st day of camp. I think that's what happened in '07 with LL so it just depends on negotiations and the slotting of the players.

CRedskinsRule 07-28-2009 07:37 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
There are still 20 2nd round picks unsigned, that's also kinda crazy

CRedskinsRule 07-28-2009 07:57 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Man, people griped about AH's deal. What if we give Orakpo Sanchez like money! that would screw up the whole curve, who knows we could start a whole hold out issue for the teams around us! LOL

LOL

stu_nna 07-28-2009 08:02 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=ethat001;570660]Just saw his video with Al Michaels on Redskins.com. He really seems like a good guy, the kind of guy you want in the locker room. Great pickup!

I hope he's a quick study and can beef up in the weight room ASAP. We may need him if someone goes down..

Of course, I was also excited about Erasmus last year who failed me.. But in contrast Jarmon is a promising rookie who has great potential (vs. Erasmus who was an injured bust who we tried out)..[/quote]
I to had high hopes for Erasmus. Very dissapointed that he couldnt stick.

johno 07-28-2009 08:08 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
i really liked him in the interview, sounded pretty grounded. thank god that thursday is almost here, i am psyched to watch him start hitting people.

an23dy 07-29-2009 11:25 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;570595]anyone know how his contract stacks up with other "3rd rounders?" It might be an interesting point that by getting this guy in the supplemental draft and using our pick a year early, we're actually saving money because of the annual jump of the salaries, i.e. a 2009 3rd rd pick is cheaper than a 2010 3rd rd pick.[/quote]

It is the exact same money as the 83rd pick of this year.
83 New England Brandon Tate - WR 4 year $2.505 contract, $755,000 signing bonus
SUP Washington Jeremy Jarmon - DE 4 year $2.505 million contract, $755,000 signing bonus

I guess it's because this guy is the middle pick in the draft. It's cool though, probably saved some money because I bet the numbers go up next year, because they always go up and also the no cap thing would raise prices.

Skinny Tee 07-30-2009 12:13 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
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Jarmon it......no? Too much of a stretch?

:Smoker:[/quote]

I like it. Hell I'd like any nickname that cross references any rap group from the 80's.

GMScud 07-30-2009 12:20 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Mattyk72;570591]Just need some guys that were drafted around Orakpo to get signed and his deal will fall into place quickly.[/quote]

It's kind of crazy how few 1st rounders are signed right now. Sanchez, Stafford, Oher, Mack, Eric Wood, and Ziggy Hood. That's it. 6 out of 32 and it's almost August.

A link in case anyone is interested:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d810d9ec2&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Signing status of 2009 NFL Draft first-round picks[/url]

Ruhskins 07-30-2009 12:26 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=GMScud;571015]It's kind of crazy how few 1st rounders are signed right now. Sanchez, Stafford, Oher, Mack, Eric Wood, and Ziggy Hood. That's it. 6 out of 32 and it's almost August.

A link in case anyone is interested:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d810d9ec2&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Signing status of 2009 NFL Draft first-round picks[/url][/quote]

Well I found this article stating that [URL="http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/741095.html"]Aaron Maybin may be a hold out for Buffalo[/URL], which may be bad for us since his signing and Tyson Jackson's would influence what type of deal Orakpo gets. [URL="http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/16307010/0/0/16307397"]Jackson has not been signed either[/URL]...so any word what's going on with Orakpo?

GMScud 07-30-2009 12:32 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Ruhskins;571017]Well I found this article stating that [URL="http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/741095.html"]Aaron Maybin may be a hold out for Buffalo[/URL], which may be bad for us since his signing and Tyson Jackson's would influence what type of deal Orakpo gets. [URL="http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/16307010/0/0/16307397"]Jackson has not been signed either[/URL]...so any word what's going on with Orakpo?[/quote]

No idea, although [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/hanging-with-mr-zorn.html#more"]Zorn said he doesn't expect Orakpo to report on time[/URL]. We have a unique position with our 1st round pick since we're asking him to change positions to a degree, so every second of camp is that much more valuable.

I understand agents want to wait and see what kind of money players picked near their clients sign for, however someone has to be the first to sign. We need Rak in camp ASAP.

Skinny Tee 07-30-2009 12:36 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=GMScud;571015]It's kind of crazy how few 1st rounders are signed right now. Sanchez, Stafford, Oher, Mack, Eric Wood, and Ziggy Hood. That's it. 6 out of 32 and it's almost August.

A link in case anyone is interested:

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d810d9ec2&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]Signing status of 2009 NFL Draft first-round picks[/URL][/quote]

You think it's because the NFL is headed into the final year of the labor agreement?

Maybe agents are trying to secure more money this year in case of a lock out after this year.

...Pure speculation on my part of course.

Ruhskins 07-30-2009 12:40 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;571020]You think it's because the NFL is headed into the final year of the labor agreement?

Maybe agents are trying to secure more money this year in case of a lock out after this year.

...Pure speculation on my part of course.[/quote]

I mean this would be a good story for the sports media to address, but of course they are too busy not letting go of the Brett Favre's non-story :doh:

GMScud, thanks for the heads up on Zorn's comments. I agree with you, Orakpo needs to be in camp, I hope we get him signed pretty soon.

GMScud 07-30-2009 12:57 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;571020][B]You think it's because the NFL is headed into the final year of the labor agreement?[/B]

Maybe agents are trying to secure more money this year in case of a lock out after this year.

...Pure speculation on my part of course.[/quote]

Absolutely. I think the prospect of 2010 being uncapped is playing a big role.

GMScud 07-30-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Add Heyward-Bey to the list:

[url=http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32218847]Raiders sign off on contract for Heyward-Bey - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com[/url]

MTK 07-30-2009 11:27 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Rumors are starting to float that Orakpo's deal is close to being done.

ArtMonkDrillz 07-30-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Mattyk72;571080]Rumors are starting to float that Orakpo's deal is close to being done.[/quote]I don't really know how much a rookie's contract can vary based on his position and this probably won't make a difference if the 2 sides are indeed close, but could there be a stumble in the negotiations if the Skins want to pay Orakpo like an OLB when he thinks he should be paid like a DE?

CRedskinsRule 07-30-2009 11:45 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=GMScud;571076]Add Heyward-Bey to the list:

[url=http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32218847]Raiders sign off on contract for Heyward-Bey - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com[/url][/quote]

This may be close enough for Orakpo to get slotted, did you all know that Ben Dogra represents Orakpo and Heyward Bey.

Dogra represents:
1. Lions: QB Matthew Stafford (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); signed April 25.

2. Rams: OT Jason Smith (Ben Dogra/Michael Lartigue); unsigned.

7. Raiders: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); signed

12. Broncos: RB Knowshon Moreno (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); unsigned.

13. Redskins: LB Brian Orakpo (Ben Dogra/Michael Lartigue); unsigned.

14. Saints: CB Malcolm Jenkins (Ben Dogra/Tom Condon); unsigned.

15. Texans: LB Brian Cushing (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); unsigned.

19. Eagles: WR Jeremy Maclin (Ben Dogra/Jim Steiner); unsigned.

FRPLG 07-30-2009 11:50 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;571089]This may be close enough for Orakpo to get slotted, did you all know that Ben Dogra represents Orakpo and Heyward Bey.

Dogra represents:
1. Lions: QB Matthew Stafford (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); signed April 25.

2. Rams: OT Jason Smith (Ben Dogra/Michael Lartigue); unsigned.

7. Raiders: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); signed

12. Broncos: RB Knowshon Moreno (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); unsigned.

13. Redskins: LB Brian Orakpo (Ben Dogra/Michael Lartigue); unsigned.

14. Saints: CB Malcolm Jenkins (Ben Dogra/Tom Condon); unsigned.

15. Texans: LB Brian Cushing (Tom Condon/Ben Dogra); unsigned.

19. Eagles: WR Jeremy Maclin (Ben Dogra/Jim Steiner); unsigned.[/quote]

Smith is close too supposedly.

MTK 07-30-2009 11:59 AM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;571084]I don't really know how much a rookie's contract can vary based on his position and this probably won't make a difference if the 2 sides are indeed close, but could there be a stumble in the negotiations if the Skins want to pay Orakpo like an OLB when he thinks he should be paid like a DE?[/quote]

Not positive but I don't think there would be big enough of a difference to make it a major hurdle in the negotiations.

Monkeydad 07-30-2009 02:55 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
[quote=Skins4Eva;570582]Here's the link...

[URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Sign_Jarmon_to_Rookie_Contract_44636.jsp"]Redskins Sign Jarmon to Rookie Contract[/URL]


Now time to get Mr. Orakpo locked up![/quote]

Orakpo can't be locked up. Hopefully we sign him soon though. :)

[IMG]http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/brian-orakpo-is-strong.jpg[/IMG]

Lotus 07-30-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
I wonder if he can rip Romo the way he rips chains.

CRedskinsRule 07-30-2009 07:15 PM

Re: Jarmon signed
 
Jason Smith signed. that means Dogra's team has their top 3 picks signed, I hope that means the next groiup(including Orakpo) will sign very soon.


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