Billion Dollar Debacle!!!
 

So Im watching the Cowboy game with some family and Im getting an earfull of how their new stadium is [U]The 8th Wonder of The World[/U] and so on. So Joe Buck starts talking about how in pregame the kickers/punters on both sides were hitting the Jumbo Tron. The look on Jerry Jones face freaking priceless. Now this part I beleave Joe said, now dont quote me. Jerry wanted the kickers on both sides to try not to hit it during the game. You know since with all the hype nobody can ruins Jones big debut. I wonder what the league will do? I guess, big isn't always better.

Take for what you will but, woudnt it be funny if they would have to replace it.:doh:

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Was just watching the game, and the Titans 2nd string Punter hit one off the scoreboard. The outcome......a "do-over".......WTF?????? You have gotta be kidding me!!! Its clearly an incredible stadium, but if this is gonna happen all the time, the NFL really needs to get them to fix this!!!

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Jerry Jones is a failure. What an embarrassment.

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Ya, and I just saw the titans punter hit it. Something tells me that Goodell will send a letter to Jerry saying that he needs to raise it atleast 15 more yards, because this will be a problem for a lot of punters. This isn't a weather problem, this would go into the category of a fan storming the field type play. The unusual type condition, but fixable is what I'm trying to say. You can't have everything Jerry.

In a side note, I think I've seen everything in this game that you could see. A few one handed catches, a last second (literally), a false start everyone but the center call, helmets flying, and of course balls hitting an overly big TV screen.

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This is ridiculous. The punter gets good hangtime and has to do a do-over? How freakin hard could it have been to figure this out after years of planning?

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[quote=53Fan;577961]This is ridiculous. The punter gets good hangtime and has to do a do-over? How freakin hard could it have been to figure this out after years of planning?[/quote]

Yea first year major in architicture could have brought that up in the drafting room. I guess JJ sure can pick'em when it comes to construction. (PRACTICE FACILITY)

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$1.2 billion to build the stadium and no one considered punters. Brilliant.

The NFL had better force a change with that. To watch do-overs in Dallas again and again would be incredibly lame.

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This made my season! The Billion Dollar Debacle is the greatest stadium ever! Nothing epitomizes the current state of the Cowboys any better...

It really couldn't be any better than this!!!

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You think if a ball hits it right the screen will go black.

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That's what I was laughing about. I tried to look around and find out how much the Jumbo-Tron cost, but it only said Jerry said "40 million. That should explain the ghostly white look on Jerry's face when it got hit. The Cowboys are turning into a reality T.V show.

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I dont think the nfl will do anything about it unless it clearly becomes a problem,if its an every game occurence then they would def have to do something,but if its only once or twice a season they'll blow it off.I would think nothing could be done about it for this season,dont know how quickly it could be moved

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Why wouldnt they calculate this when they made it? It really doesnt make any sense. What a freaking idiot.

It was actually the first thing I thought when the game started because it seemed too low. But I quickly dismissed the thought because I assumed a billionaire making a huge investment would consider all possible issues, but I guess stupidity does not exclude financially superior.

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People who put this stadium together have to be complete idiots to not think of something so obvious as this. I expect the NFL to step in immediately because this is absolutely ridiculous. It was really tragic what happened with the practice field, especially when you have a crooked Texas business men running things who like to cut corners with inspections, permits, and things of that nature.
In all honesty, I thought the new c-girls stadiums was actually really nice, especially the field. I dont know how I feel about that $30 standing room only ticket, I would be pissed if I had to stand the entire time and couldnt really see that well. I guess it brings more of a college or bleachers feel to the game, but kinda of cheapens the place...

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[quote=Chico23231;578057]People who put this stadium together have to be complete idiots to not think of something so obvious as this. I expect the NFL to step in immediately because this is absolutely ridiculous. It was really tragic what happened with the practice field, especially when you have a crooked Texas business men running things who like to cut corners with inspections, permits, and things of that nature.
In all honesty, I thought the new c-girls stadiums was actually really nice, especially the field. I dont know how I feel about that $30 standing room only ticket, I would be pissed if I had to stand the entire time and couldnt really see that well. I guess it brings more of a college or bleachers feel to the game, but kinda of cheapens the place...[/quote]

the nfl is not stupid,I think they would have signed off on this already.
Ticket buyers know theyre buying a standing room only ticket,so if theyre pissed about it they have no one to blame but themselves.

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Apparently they did a test in which McBriar test punted one day. Now there is intensive research! :)

Both Titans punters hit it repeatedly in pregame warmups. It appears that hitting the screen will be commonplace, not an isolated event.

They spent $1.2 bil. on a football stadium where you can't really play football. In some ways it is not a true stadium but a cocktail lounge with a huge dance floor. To this embarrassment I say ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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lol big time stadium fail

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I say that every time a live ball hits the screen, it should be a 15 yard penalty against Dallas. Jerry would remove or raise the damn thing then!

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Jerry Jones: The scoreboard isn't budging
11:23 PM Fri, Aug 21, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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It didn't take long for a punter to prove Jerry Jones wrong. Titans rookie A.J. Trapasso bounced a ball of the Jerrytron during the third quarter.

If you thought Jerry Jones would react by raising the center-hung structure, well, you thought wrong.

Jerry pointed out that his $1.2 billion [b]stadium was built to league specifications.[/b] He wouldn't even entertain the possibility of cranking the electronic monstrosity that holds the 60-yard big screens up a few feet.

You see, before construction could begin, the league had to approve the plans. And at several stages thorughout the construction, the league had to approve the plans. Without that approval, the NFL could not sanction games held in that facilty.

And the league liked the stadium enough to award it the 2011 Super Bowl, even before construction was half complete.

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[quote=SouperMeister;578084]I say that every time a live ball hits the screen, it should be a 15 yard penalty against Dallas. Jerry would remove or raise the damn thing then![/quote]

I actually agree with this (of course punters would be aiming for the monstrous screen :) but that would be fun in and of itself.)

Regardless of the league approval (Jerry does have deep pockets doesn't he ;)) They should have to do something. Or it will become a 1.2 Billion dollar laughing stock. Why should the kicking team be penalized (either by redoing the kick and thus having to run down again, or hesitating to see if the kick hits it) because the Cowboys couldn't get it right.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;578087]Jerry Jones: The scoreboard isn't budging
11:23 PM Fri, Aug 21, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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It didn't take long for a punter to prove Jerry Jones wrong. Titans rookie A.J. Trapasso bounced a ball of the Jerrytron during the third quarter.

If you thought Jerry Jones would react by raising the center-hung structure, well, you thought wrong.

Jerry pointed out that his $1.2 billion [B]stadium was built to league specifications.[/B] He wouldn't even entertain the possibility of cranking the electronic monstrosity that holds the 60-yard big screens up a few feet.

You see, before construction could begin, the league had to approve the plans. And at several stages thorughout the construction, the league had to approve the plans. Without that approval, the NFL could not sanction games held in that facilty.

And the league liked the stadium enough to award it the 2011 Super Bowl, even before construction was half complete.[/quote]


You Dallas fans can spin it any way you want. Bottom line it is a complete failure. Jeff Fischer came out and said it was a problem. I don't think he has an agenda.

I cannot wait until a team is up big in the fourth (hopefully Washington) and the punter decides to see how many times he can hit it in a row. I would buy a Hunter Smith jersey for each member of my family if he did it.

This isn't any different than T.O., Tank Johnson, Pacman, Quincy Carter and all of the other square pegs that Jerry has decided that he can fit in a round hole. I am betting that they will not hold the Super Bowl there until this issue is fixed. You cannot have the league showcase marred by an oversized TV that some stubborn jackass refuses to move.

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[quote=pocket$ $traight;578093]you dallas fans can spin it any way you want. Bottom line it is a complete failure. Jeff fischer came out and said it was a problem. I don't think he has an agenda.

I cannot wait until a team is up big in the fourth (hopefully washington) and the punter decides to see how many times he can hit it in a row. I would buy a hunter smith jersey for each member of my family if he did it.

This isn't any different than t.o., tank johnson, pacman, quincy carter and all of the other square pegs that jerry has decided that he can fit in a round hole. I am betting that they will not hold the super bowl there until this issue is fixed. You cannot have the league showcase marred by an oversized tv that some stubborn jackass refuses to move.[/quote]

[b][font="century gothic"][size="3"][font="comic sans ms"]Stubborn Jackass[/font][/size][/font][/b] Thank you for that so the next I get n a trash talking bout with some cowboy fans Im using your statement.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;578093]You Dallas fans can spin it any way you want. Bottom line it is a complete failure. [B] Jeff Fischer came out and said it was a problem.[/B] I don't think he has an agenda.

I cannot wait until a team is up big in the fourth (hopefully Washington) and the punter decides to see how many times he can hit it in a row. I would buy a Hunter Smith jersey for each member of my family if he did it.

This isn't any different than T.O., Tank Johnson, Pacman, Quincy Carter and all of the other square pegs that Jerry has decided that he can fit in a round hole. I am betting that they will not hold the Super Bowl there until this issue is fixed. You cannot have the league showcase marred by an oversized TV that some stubborn jackass refuses to move.[/quote]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4415658&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines]Titans kicker exposes problem in Cowboys Stadium - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=sandtrapjack;578087]Jerry Jones: The scoreboard isn't budging
11:23 PM Fri, Aug 21, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon/Blogger Bio | E-mail | News tips


It didn't take long for a punter to prove Jerry Jones wrong. Titans rookie A.J. Trapasso bounced a ball of the Jerrytron during the third quarter.

If you thought Jerry Jones would react by raising the center-hung structure, well, you thought wrong.

Jerry pointed out that his $1.2 billion [b]stadium was built to league specifications.[/b] He wouldn't even entertain the possibility of cranking the electronic monstrosity that holds the 60-yard big screens up a few feet.

You see, before construction could begin, the league had to approve the plans. And at several stages thorughout the construction, the league had to approve the plans. Without that approval, the NFL could not sanction games held in that facilty.

And the league liked the stadium enough to award it the 2011 Super Bowl, even before construction was half complete.[/quote]

Ya the stadium maybe built to league specifications but the TV screen wasn't

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I don't care who's fault it is, every time a punt hits the screen it's a fail.

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[quote=53Fan;578096][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4415658&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines]Titans kicker exposes problem in Cowboys Stadium - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Owner FAIL:
[quote]Jones implied that having the video board in play provided an "entertainment value" and that both teams would have to deal with it. But the owner repeatedly said that the normal trajectory of an NFL punt would not bring the video board into play.[/quote]

did they demolish Texas stadium already? It would be awesome if the league de-certified that stadium until the problem was resolved! (not saying that will happen, just that it would be awesome)

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[quote=sandtrapjack;578087]Jerry Jones: The scoreboard isn't budging
11:23 PM Fri, Aug 21, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon/Blogger Bio | E-mail | News tips


It didn't take long for a punter to prove Jerry Jones wrong. Titans rookie A.J. Trapasso bounced a ball of the Jerrytron during the third quarter.

If you thought Jerry Jones would react by raising the center-hung structure, well, you thought wrong.

Jerry pointed out that his $1.2 billion [B]stadium was built to league specifications.[/B] He wouldn't even entertain the possibility of cranking the electronic monstrosity that holds the 60-yard big screens up a few feet.

You see, before construction could begin, the league had to approve the plans. And at several stages thorughout the construction, the league had to approve the plans. Without that approval, the NFL could not sanction games held in that facilty.

And the league liked the stadium enough to award it the 2011 Super Bowl, even before construction was half complete.[/quote]

Say what you will, having punters bounce balls of your ostentatious jumbo tron makes your stadium look stupid, I don't care how many other bells and whistles it has.

IMO, this stadium is a giant phallic symbol for Jerrah. I don't know what's more vain- all his absurd plastic surgery or this building with his low rider big screen.

If there are a few "do-overs" in every game to start the season, I guarantee that screen gets raised. It has to. Opposing coaches/players and the media will make a circus out of it until Goodell makes Jerrah tuck his tail and do something.

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[quote=53Fan;578096][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4415658&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines"]Titans kicker exposes problem in Cowboys Stadium - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

"Entertainment value" ???? Really Jerrah?

I wonder how "entertaining" it will be for him and Cowboys fans when an opposing team gets great field position at a crucial point in a game because of his low hanging TV. We'll see how he feels then.

What a joke.

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According to Stephan Hawkins @AP.

"The screens will be raised 25 feet in October to accommodate the stage for U2 when they perform in 2 months."-Stephan Hawkins. So he will raise it for a show, but not for what he built it for. Go figure.

Now that said, He should take his head out his ass and put his EGO in it to feel the viod.

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You can bet that when (not if, but when) McBriar hits it and the Cowpies suffer thereby that Jerruh will rethink things in the Bonehead Palace.

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How about this ... F*ck the Cowboys ... F*ck Jerry Jones ... Move the damn screen up, nobody cares about "league specs", we can't go a whole season with re-dos ?? First time someone has a "re-do" and then gets it blocked let's see what happens ..

Dear Dallas,

Suck My Balls

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[quote=skindeep;578107]According to Stephan Hawkins @AP.

"The screens will be[B] raised 25 feet in October to accommodate the stage for U2 [/B]when they perform in 2 months."-Stephan Hawkins. So he will raise it for a show, but not for what he built it for. Go figure.

Now that said, He should take his head out his ass and put his EGO in it to feel the viod.[/quote]

Same Old Jerry!
Any national press attention is good attention. This is really a non-story. The center hung scoreboard height can be adjusted very easily (flip of a switch).
The problem is due to insurance regulations, the field has to be cleared of people to move it. So setting the height or changing the height has to be done at a slow moment. The NFL and plastic surgery puss boy Jerry have to agree on a new (higher) game time height. Jerry will be a bitch about it.

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I would ALMOST say...I dont want to hear any bashing Danny boy here for awhile. Snyder would never make some of these idiotic comments that JJ is spewing from his tail end. The ego of Jerry Jones is incredible, how did a man so ignorant make so much money?

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I am so happy that everyone who follows the NFL (outside of Dallas) is laughing at Jerry and the Cowpies today.

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[quote=hooskins;578056]Why wouldnt they calculate this when they made it? It really doesnt make any sense. What a freaking idiot.

It was actually the first thing I thought when the game started because it seemed too low. But I quickly dismissed the thought because I assumed a billionaire making a huge investment would consider all possible issues, but I guess stupidity does not exclude financially superior.[/quote]

I thought the EXACT same thing when I first saw it. I bet a lot of people thought of that but we all assumed the same thing.

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[quote=roth74va;577956]Was just watching the game, and the Titans 2nd string Punter hit one off the scoreboard. The outcome......a "do-over".......WTF?????? You have gotta be kidding me!!! Its clearly an incredible stadium, but if this is gonna happen all the time, the NFL really needs to get them to fix this!!![/quote]

The league should make a rule that if the opponant hits it, then the home team is penalized in some way. This is a simple fix, you take it down! If you don't, and you interfere with play, then you will be hurt by it.

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[quote=jsarno;578139]The league should make a rule that if the opponant hits it, then the home team is penalized in some way. This is a simple fix, you take it down! If you don't, and you interfere with play, then you will be hurt by it.[/quote]


Exactly. Their punter will have an unfair advantage as he will punt there 50% of the time and any other punter no more than 12.5% during the regular season.

They will learn how to punt around it.

The do-over rule is like a double fault in tennis. You put all your heart into that first serve and will invariably take something off the 2nd try.

Jerry is a laughing stock.


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

j-dawg

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I don't get why this is such a big deal. Yeah, kinda funny to see a punt bounce off of it every so often, but to call the stadium a fail? Lame. I hate the Cowboys and (some of) their fans just as much as anyone, but the stadium looks absolutely awesome. I wish FedEx was that incredible. Those screens are sick. It's all to NFL spec, and until the league says something, the punters just have to deal with it. Kinda like rain, sunshine, heat, poor turf, etc etc.

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[quote=cpayne5;578141]I don't get why this is such a big deal. Yeah, kinda funny to see a punt bounce off of it every so often, but to call the stadium a fail? Lame. I hate the Cowboys and (some of) their fans just as much as anyone, but the stadium looks absolutely awesome. I wish FedEx was that incredible. Those screens are sick. It's all to NFL spec, and until the league says something, [B]the punters just have to deal with it[/B]. Kinda like rain, sunshine, heat, poor turf, etc etc.[/quote]

But the punters should not have to deal with it. The stadium exists for the sake of the game, not the other way around.

I would argue that the situation, if unrectified, puts Dallas at a disadvantage in two ways:

1) punting redos benefit the receiving team, as the coverage team will be more winded for the redo. Given that Dallas will face that situation more than other teams, we might see Dallas give up an extra number of big returns. This remains true unless Dallas punters learn to kick around the screens, which brings me to my second point:

2) if Dallas punters learn to kick around the screens, that will reduce their effectiveness. They will learn to have less hang time. They will learn to direct punts away from the screens rather than to the most strategic locations.

You can be sure that once the Cowboys figure this out, they'll raise the screens.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;578102]Owner FAIL:


did they demolish Texas stadium already? It would be awesome if the league de-certified that stadium until the problem was resolved! (not saying that will happen, just that it would be awesome)[/quote]
what a goof

entertainment value wtf

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[quote=DCtoAZ;578120]How about this ... F*ck the Cowboys ... F*ck Jerry Jones ... Move the damn screen up, nobody cares about "league specs", we can't go a whole season with re-dos ??[B] First time someone has a "re-do" and then gets it blocked let's see what happens .. [/B]

Dear Dallas,

Suck My Balls[/quote]
very good point