Jason Campbell Wants Thomas To Step It Up
 

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"It's not a play here, a play there. Every play is important. You've got to be where you're supposed to be every time. If you want people to depend on you, you've always got to be focused."

Campbell taking charge, very nice.

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Yeah I read this earlier, figured it might light a fire under Thomas. Zorn still wont confirm it but Im expecting Kelly to be the #2, and Thomas will see spot duty, and return kicks.

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Jason is showing the leadership we need. Good job Jason.

He's also right. The only thing between current DT and DT's being a devastating receiver is DT.

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After watching Thomas this pre season and out in Ashburn he doesn't seem to catch the ball naturally like Kelly does. I think Theismann pointed out that Thomas jumps everytime he catches the ball instead of just catching w/ his hands.

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Maturity, or lack thereof seems to be the buzz word surrounding Thomas. Listening to him talk sometimes it would apear he does have some growing up to do. It might serve him well to concentrate less on those video games, and more on his assignments.

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[quote=roth74va;584427]Yeah I read this earlier, figured it might light a fire under Thomas. Zorn still wont confirm it but Im expecting Kelly to be the #2, and [B]Thomas will see spot duty, and return kicks.[/quote][/B]

So what your saying is ....Rock is expendable. :)

So Mason still has a chance. LOL.

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[quote=skinsfan69;584430]After watching Thomas this pre season and out in Ashburn he doesn't seem to catch the ball naturally like Kelly does. I think Theismann pointed out that Thomas jumps everytime he catches the ball instead of just catching w/ his hands.[/quote]

Kelly has really soft hands. I think he's going to be a nice contributor on the underneath stuff.

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[quote=skinsfan69;584430]After watching Thomas this pre season and out in Ashburn he doesn't seem to catch the ball naturally like Kelly does. I think Theismann pointed out that Thomas jumps everytime he catches the ball instead of just catching w/ his hands.[/quote]

Yes, but he [U]does[/U] catch it. Apparently, he still has a lot of work to do to become more productive but when he is thrown the ball he catches it. That puts him way ahead of some of the starting WR's we've had here in the past.

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Was Thomas really that different on the field this pre-season? It's funny because both Kelly's and Thomas numbers look ridiculously similar in fact just for fun lets play the guessing game.

Player A:
7 Catches 69 yards 9.9 Average with a Long of 21

Player B:
7 Catches 67 yards 9.6 Average with a Long of 16

I guess though that Kelly made tougher catches based on what I've heard. Still no one beats my boy Marko Mitchell.

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The Redskins want Jason to step it up. Before Jason calls anyone out he needs to check himself first. He needs to work on his accuracy first and foremost.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;584452]The Redskins want Jason to step it up. Before Jason calls anyone out he needs to check himself first. He needs to work on his accuracy first and foremost.[/quote]

Partly agreed, though JC's been slinging the ball around fairly well. There isnt a throw that the guy cant make, the one to ARE was on the money. Hopefully they both step up, and we can all be happy.

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I just do not like Devin Thomas, the person/player at this point...

I have heard WAY too much about his personality faults/over-inflated ego and lack of focus & work ethic.

Marko Mitchell is next to pass DT on the WR list... so what happens when DT is the #5 receiver? Could hear a "story" coming from him this season if so...

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;584462]I just do not like Devin Thomas, the person/player at this point...

I have heard WAY too much about his personality faults/over-inflated ego and lack of focus & work ethic.

Marko Mitchell is next to pass DT on the WR list... so what happens when DT is the #5 receiver? Could hear a "story" coming from him this season if so...[/quote]

This is why I wanted Jordy Nelson. He's a hard worker and he outproduced Thomas in his senior year of college by about 400 yards. Then he went on to gain over 300 yards last year through the air. Hell he even outproduced him this preseason on one play. In retrospect it would have been nice to pair him off with Kelly and Mitchell. Then all of our young receivers would be tall guys that can step up and make plays.

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[quote=roth74va;584427]Yeah I read this earlier, figured it might light a fire under Thomas. Zorn still wont confirm it but Im expecting Kelly to be the #2, and Thomas will see spot duty, and return kicks.[/quote]


i agree about kelly being the #2 wr. not quite sure about thomas returning kicks though, maybe the skins will put both rock and thomas back there together. now if the skins cut rock then.......

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I'm a DT supporter I want all our WR's to do great what i remember is JC saying MK & MM are always staying after practice catching balls from the machine and i never heard DT's name being mentioned. DT needs to step it up it's a privilege to play in the NFL.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;584471]I'm a DT supporter I want all our WR's to do great what i remember is JC saying MK & MM are always staying after practice catching balls from the machine and i never heard DT's name being mentioned.[/quote]

Probably to busy Lamborghini Livin' :D Anyone seeing DT when they go out to the bars?

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DT was praised in OTAs wasnt he? One thing Zorn said after the Patriots game was that the Kick Returns seemed to help Devin get his head in the game. Maybe because it forces him to focus as the primary guy. In which case I would be all for him returning kicks.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;584452]The Redskins want Jason to step it up. Before Jason calls anyone out he needs to check himself first. He needs to work on his accuracy first and foremost.[/quote]

Well a big part of what they wanted Campbell to "step up" was his leadership, his "fire" and ability to speak up when needed.

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I'm disappointed with DT. All I read about him in the offseason and during OTA's was how he's gotten the playbook down pat and had really improved his work ethic/preparation. Before training camp, I thought Devin would surely win the #2. If he's not careful he may end up the #5.

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I am sure his lack of focus was one of the reasons he dropped deep in the 2nd round of the draft????

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Devin Thomas has great speed, but he's only got one gear. That's why he's not an effective route runner. He may be the only guy on the field that needs to slow down.

Santana Moss, on the other hand, knows how to shift gears while running his routes. That's how he was able to catch those two bombs from Brunell against Cowboys. He believes in his speed and knows, if he's even he's leaving. He may start his route running 1/2 or 3/4 speed, then all of a sudden he hits the accelerator and he's gone.

Running pass routes is just like making love. You must have patience, know when to throttle back and when to give it all you got.

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[quote=shack;584561]Running pass routes is just like making love. You must have patience, know when to throttle back and when to give it all you got.[/quote]


Wow ROFL...thats one I have NEVER heard before, we have some real comedians representing the Warpath!!!

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;584452]The Redskins want Jason to step it up. Before Jason calls anyone out he needs to check himself first. He needs to work on his accuracy first and foremost.[/quote]

Jason Campbell had a 62.3% accuracy percentage last season that was better than all the other quarterbacks in the NFC East. His accuracy is not what he needs to work on, he needs to work on going through his reads and taking more risks.

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"It's not a play here, a play there. Every play is important. You've got to be where you're supposed to be every time. If you want people to depend on you, you've always got to be focused."

Campbell taking charge, very nice.[/quote]

This team can do without Thomas, IMO. Santana 1, Kelly 2, ARE 3, Marko 4, DT 5. He's irrelevent and has been woefully unimpressive. The other night he was jumping up in the air to catch balls throw at his head. He's weak and doesn't make the team any better.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;584573]Jason Campbell had a 62.3% accuracy percentage last season that was better than all the other quarterbacks in the NFC East. His accuracy is not what he needs to work on, he needs to work on going through his reads and taking more risks.[/quote]


Yeah that 62.3% comes from check downs mostly. Half of Santana's passes were screens or 4 yard hitches. When he gets that percentage while attacking the defenses then I will leave him alone. The kid needs to work on his accuracy along with his reads as well. Don't come at me like he's a very accurate quarterback of which he is not.

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Do we really need to turn this into another JC hating thread?

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Let's see. How many threads do we have on JC hating? Do they out number the Colt threads? If not, then, obviously, more JC hating threads are required.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;584647]Yeah that 62.3% comes from check downs mostly. Half of Santana's passes were screens or 4 yard hitches. When he gets that percentage while attacking the defenses then I will leave him alone. The kid needs to work on his accuracy along with his reads as well. Don't come at me like he's a very accurate quarterback of which he is not.[/quote]

JC has been a fairly accurate passer going all the way back to Auburn, when he completed nearly 70% of his passes as a junior.

Please update your understanding of Campbell's skills.

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No need to update my understanding of Campbell's skills because Im only stating what I have seen from him on a week to week basis. I have watched plenty of Campbell's games throughout his career with us and he does not have the accuracy on the short to intermediate passes let alone the deep passes. How many times have we seen him throw high to Moss on a 5-yard curl route or a slant route. His screen passes are even worse. Why is it that we call a screen pass to our receivers or backs only to see the ball go up high and our receivers not having enough time to gather themselves to move forward. He needs to work on his accuracy asap.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]Yeah [B]that 62.3% comes from check downs mostly. Half of Santana's passes were screens or 4 yard hitches.[/B] When he gets that percentage while attacking the defenses then I will leave him alone. The kid needs to work on his accuracy along with his reads as well. Don't come at me like he's a very accurate quarterback of which he is not.[/quote]

[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]No need to update my understanding of Campbell's skills because Im only stating what I have seen from him on a week to week basis. I have watched plenty of Campbell's games throughout his career with us and [B]he does not have the accuracy on the short to intermediate passes let alone the deep passes. How many times have we seen him throw high to Moss on a 5-yard curl route or a slant route.[/B] His screen passes are even worse. Why is it that we call a screen pass to our receivers or backs only to see the ball go up high and our receivers not having enough time to gather themselves to move forward. He needs to work on his accuracy asap. [/quote]

And you don't see the self-contradiction in you logic? I have seen him complete many difficult passes. 62% is 62% no matter how you cut it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;584476]Well a big part of what they wanted Campbell to "step up" was his leadership, his "fire" and ability to speak up when needed.[/quote]

Yep...I have no problem w/ JC calling out a guy to step it up (on the offensive side of the ball). Thomas may be a guy he needs a lot of "coaching" not just in the sense of actual instruction but extra encouragement and kind of saying "look you have to make a difference for us here." Some will say that shows a lack of maturity...don't forget he's still a kid, like most of the ballers out there. I like was Jason is doing and I tend to think it pays dividends down the road.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;584734]And you don't see the self-contradiction in you logic? I have seen him complete many difficult passes. 62% is 62% no matter how you cut it.[/quote]

You are right JC and the Skins are going all the way. Some teams wished they had a QB who completed 62% of their passes.