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stu_nna 09-05-2009 10:12 AM

Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
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Havent found any other sources yet but this is bad news for Colt

Skinny Tee 09-05-2009 10:18 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
When I saw Colt go out of the game I thought something that like would happen so they could keep both Colt and Chase.

The only person it would matter to is Colt and if he doesn't mind not having any chance to play during the season I guess I see no problem with him doing it or agreeing to do it.

wolfeskins 09-05-2009 10:25 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
nothing is official yet.


Colt Brennan may not be on the active roster this year. And that he may not be cut, either.

dblanch66 09-05-2009 10:26 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
Still...SFRedskin posted this last night: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[I]Another possibility tomorrow could be to stash Colt in IR for the season and save him for next year and make Daniel our #3 this year. [/I]

Dude, you are a swami!

hooskins 09-05-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_to_Place_Brennan_On_Injured_Reserve_49002.jsp]Redskins to Place Brennan On Injured Reserve[/url]

its first item on redskins.com

freddyg12 09-05-2009 10:39 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
this may be a blessing in disguise!
Hopefully colt won't get upset & think that he should be able to come back mid season

Skinny Tee 09-05-2009 10:40 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
I didn't think Colt was as injured as he was.

I don't like the sound of the recurring hip injury.

SBXVII 09-05-2009 10:45 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
Unfortunatly one problem solved. I guess this gives Colt a yr to fix whatever problems he's having like Kelly did. Now for the other 20 something people we have to release. I'm supprised they havn't released the guys that just out right sucked already but I guess they are wantinig to cut them all at once in hopes the ones they want to keep get over looked.

BigHairedAristocrat 09-05-2009 10:46 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
what's the typical duration for this type of injury?

CRedskinsRule 09-05-2009 10:47 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
This has to be the team stashing him away, which I am fine with. Kelly went through all last year without going on, because the team wanted to try to use him. They know Brennan is a project/would not play so why not take the opportunity to keep him safe.

This does mean he can't practice with the team, but I guess he gets paid, so it's gotta be a mixed blessing for him.

And I agree, this sets up for quite the showdown for #2 next year, assuming JZ/JC/VC step it up this year and are still here next training camp.

CRedskinsRule 09-05-2009 10:49 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
I think Mason's ribs are really starting to hurt also!!



(j/k :))

CultBrennan59 09-05-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
This is the best worst news a Colt fan can hear. We know he won't be cut now, and we can keep another young flashy rookie in chase. Maybe next year we can keep both Colt and Chase, probably campbell (assuming he does good enough to earn a contract extension) and we can say good bye to collins. At least Colt didn't get cut, and picked up by another team, and somehow become that teams QB by default sometime during the season, play us and beat us, believe me I could see one happening, just like how I could see St. Louis and Cincinnati beating us last year. Just thank god colts with US!

hooskins 09-05-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
lol I still don't see how colt played well this preseason. Terrible mechanics, terrible decisions, cockiness, etc. I can't believe Colt will ever threaten anyone for a starting job. ever.

He is so very lucky to even be on this team.

CultBrennan59 09-05-2009 11:09 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=hooskins;584551]lol I still don't see how colt played well this preseason. Terrible mechanics, terrible decisions, cockiness, etc. [B]I can't believe Colt will ever threaten anyone for a starting job. ever.[/B][/quote]

Well, San Francisco, Detroit, Carolina, Cleveland, Kansas City, Oakland, Denver, and St. Louis are just a few teams I could see him starting either by injury or by him just being better than most of those QB's. Matt Hasselbeck was picked in the draft in the 6th round like Brennan, was fairly average in the preseason, got to a team he had a better chance of starting with a familiar offense, then boom! he became a pro bowler. Now of course I'm not saying Brennan will be the next Matt Hasselbeck, but I am saying that if you give Brennan time to develope, and first stringers around him, he's got a shot to be a pretty damn good 6th round QB.

MTK 09-05-2009 11:11 AM

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[quote=hooskins;584551]lol I still don't see how colt played well this preseason. Terrible mechanics, terrible decisions, cockiness, etc. I can't believe Colt will ever threaten anyone for a starting job. ever.

He is so very lucky to even be on this team.[/quote]

Perhaps in a couple of years, but he's definitely not ready now to even be a #2 let alone a starter coming back to beat us. That's pretty comical.

SBXVII 09-05-2009 11:12 AM

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[quote=hooskins;584551]lol I still don't see how colt played well this preseason. Terrible mechanics, terrible decisions, cockiness, etc. I can't believe Colt will ever threaten anyone for a starting job. ever.[/quote]

He wasn't great but he wasn't bad either. If you think about it JC played horribly in the first two games. JC only started looking good in the two last games. A whole 25 games it took him if you think about it. 5 preseason games last yr, 16 regular games, and 4 preseason games this yr. Colt has had like 8-10 preseason games. Limited time.

In regards to his mechanics; I think his foot work is ok, but apparently you are wanting to change his throwing motion he's probably been using since little league and got him to where he is now. That's not gunna happen. Look at Favre. Atlanta got rid of him cause they couldn't change his mechanics and GB capitalized on it.

As far as his terrible decision making; He's only had like 8-10 games. All using second string O-lineman. I know it was against second stringers but if your O-lineman aren't blocking and your running for your life as in the play he got injured he's not gunna learn much cause at that point your just trying to not do something stupid with the ball.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 09-05-2009 11:15 AM

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I'm happy they did not cut him. He is my favorite qb on this team. He wll eventually become a starter for this team. I guess we can have Chase as the number 3 this year. We can now move onto another topic than Colt vs Chase. I would have love to ee Colt in mop up duty this year at least.

CultBrennan59 09-05-2009 11:15 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=hooskins;584551]lol I still don't see how colt played well this preseason. Terrible mechanics, terrible decisions, cockiness, etc. [B]I can't believe Colt will ever threaten anyone for a starting job. ever.[/B][/quote]

Well, San Francisco, Detroit, Carolina, Cleveland, Kansas City, Oakland, Denver, and St. Louis are just a few teams I could see him starting either by injury or by him just being better than most of those QB's. Matt Hasselbeck was picked in the draft in the 6th round like Brennan, was fairly average in the preseason, got to a team he had a better chance of starting with a familiar offense, then boom! he became a pro bowler. Now of course I'm not saying Brennan will be the next Matt Hasselbeck, but I am saying that if you give Brennan time to develope, and first stringers around him, he's got a shot to be a pretty damn good 6th round QB.

hooskins 09-05-2009 11:18 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;584555]He wasn't great but he wasn't bad either. If you think about it JC played horribly in the first two games. JC only started looking good in the two last games. A whole 25 games it took him if you think about it. 5 preseason games last yr, 16 regular games, and 4 preseason games this yr. Colt has had like 8-10 preseason games. Limited time.

In regards to his mechanics; I think his foot work is ok, but apparently you are wanting to change his throwing motion he's probably been using since little league and got him to where he is now. That's not gunna happen. Look at Favre. Atlanta got rid of him cause they couldn't change his mechanics and GB capitalized on it.

As far as his terrible decision making; He's only had like 8-10 games. All using second string O-lineman. I know it was against second stringers but if your O-lineman aren't blocking and your running for your life as in the play he got injured he's not gunna learn much cause at that point your just trying to not do something stupid with the ball.[/quote]

I know our Oline isn't too hot, but I guess it is hard for me to change my opinion about colt dating back to the Sugar Bowl. He saw a real defense and looked horrid. I know people have said this a million times, but Timmy Chang. Timmy Chang. I have felt this way about Colt from day one.

As for JC looking bad, I always felt he had the arm, but he was just a bit slow on his decision making. Obviously that was because he wasn't comfortable with the playbook. I didn't see the raging arrogance which lead to a ton of turnovers.


To me, I am the kinda guy who wants steady and consistent improvement. That is what I saw from JC, along with better skill(from draft day).

roth74va 09-05-2009 11:25 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;584549]This is the best worst news a Colt fan can hear. We know he won't be cut now, and we can keep another young flashy rookie in chase. Maybe next year we can keep both Colt and Chase, probably campbell (assuming he does good enough to earn a contract extension) and we can say good bye to collins. At least Colt didn't get cut, and picked up by another team, and somehow become that teams QB by default sometime during the season, play us and beat us, believe me I could see one happening, just like how I could see St. Louis and Cincinnati beating us last year. Just thank god colts with US![/quote]

Your living in a dream world, Colt Brennan has a LONG way to go in being a starting quarterback in this league. And this does nothing but set him back(no practice), Daniel will now have the "inside track" come next year.

JoeRedskin 09-05-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;584549]This is the best worst news a Colt fan can hear. We know he won't be cut now, and we can keep another young flashy rookie in chase. Maybe next year we can keep both Colt and Chase, probably campbell (assuming he does good enough to earn a contract extension) and we can say good bye to collins. [B]At least Colt didn't get cut, and picked up by another team, and somehow become that teams QB by default sometime during the season, play us and beat us, believe me I could see one happening, [/B]just like how I could see St. Louis and Cincinnati beating us last year. Just thank god colts with US![/quote]

I know I sometimes drink the kool-aide - but, man, the stuff they are serving in Cult headquarters is some seriously strong sh**.

He doesn't have the armstrength to be a Favrian gunslinger but seems to think he can thread the ball anywhere (please, please don't pull out the Montanna comparisons in terms of armstrength - 1) I don't think he has even Montana/Garcia/B. Johnson armstrength; 2) He doesn't play like a guy who knows he needs to manage the game to succeed).

IF he recognizes his limitations, AND stops with the gunslinger mentality, THEN [I]MAYBE[/I] he will make a competent back-up.

Of course to do that, he would have to become the unColt.

JoeRedskin 09-05-2009 11:42 AM

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Okay, now I'm being lazy -- What are the restrictions for being on IR? He can't practice with the team, can he attend team meetings?

Actually, if the IR move is true and he dedicates himself to: 1) learning the playbook; 2) learning how to be a pro QB; and 3) improving his arm strenght (most important IMO). He may improve himself for the long run and, consequently, find a way to play in this league.

Honestly, his best shot may be the CFL - He could be the next Doug Flutie up north.

hooskins 09-05-2009 11:42 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;584565]I know I sometimes drink the kool-aide - but, man, the stuff they are serving in Cult headquarters is some seriously strong sh**.

He doesn't have the armstrength to be a Favrian gunslinger but seems to think he can thread the ball anywhere (please, please don't pull out the Montanna comparisons in terms of armstrength - 1) I don't think he has even Montana/Garcia/B. Johnson armstrength; 2) He doesn't play like a guy who knows he needs to manage the game to succeed).

IF he recognizes his limitations, AND stops with the gunslinger mentality, THEN [I]MAYBE[/I] he will make a competent back-up.

[B]Of course to do that, he would have to become the unColt.[/B][/quote]

And of course the cult will slowly demise after.

GMScud 09-05-2009 11:42 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;584549]This is the best worst news a Colt fan can hear. We know he won't be cut now, and we can keep another young flashy rookie in chase. Maybe next year we can keep both Colt and Chase, probably campbell (assuming he does good enough to earn a contract extension) and we can say good bye to collins. At least Colt didn't get cut, and picked up by another team, and somehow become that teams QB by default sometime during the season, play us and beat us, believe me I could see one happening, just like how I could see St. Louis and Cincinnati beating us last year. [B]Just thank god colts with US[/B]![/quote]

Oh yes. Thank the good lord we didn't part ways with a fringe scrub NFL qb who very well could have been cut if it weren't for injury. God is watching over us for sure on this one. :doh:

BigHairedAristocrat 09-05-2009 11:46 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;584558]Well, San Francisco, Detroit, Carolina, Cleveland, Kansas City, Oakland, Denver, and St. Louis are just a few teams I could see him starting either by injury or by him just being better than most of those QB's. Matt Hasselbeck was picked in the draft in the 6th round like Brennan, was fairly average in the preseason, got to a team he had a better chance of starting with a familiar offense, then boom! he became a pro bowler. Now of course I'm not saying Brennan will be the next Matt Hasselbeck, but I am saying that if you give Brennan time to develope, and first stringers around him, he's got a shot to be a pretty damn good 6th round QB.[/quote]

so if colt has been in our system for over a year and while playing against second and third string defenses in the preseason, was battling just to be a number THREE QB, how on earth can you think he could be injured, unable to practice, yetSTART for a new team running a system hes not familiar with against a starting defense during the regular season?

hooskins 09-05-2009 11:46 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=roth74va;584562]Your living in a dream world, Colt Brennan has a LONG way to go in being a starting quarterback in this league. And this does nothing but set him back(no practice), Daniel will now have the "inside track" come next year.[/quote]

No offense, but I am not sold on Daniel either. Him being a short turd, makes it tough in the NFL. He could barely look over the Oline, but at least he has some restrain.

I felt bad for him last game because it looked like the Oline really f'ed up on his snaps. He had to run, because he got about .5 secs, and obviously that's not he shining skill.

JoeRedskin 09-05-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=GMScud;584570]Oh yes. Thank the good lord we didn't part ways with a fringe scrub NFL qb who very well could have been cut if it weren't for injury. [B]God is watching over us for sure on this one.[/B] :doh:[/quote]

LOL. Well, Colt is PJ - this is just the part of his career [I]before[/I] his resurrection.

From the Cult of Colt, The Book of zorn, Chapter 2: "And yea, Colt descended into the IR only to rise again in the next year."

T.O.Killa 09-05-2009 11:49 AM

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This is the best case scenario, they keep Colt and Daniel and next year they fight for second and third string

hooskins 09-05-2009 11:50 AM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
I honestly don't want to see a player perform poorly, but I was happy we got to see Colt properly this year. And Cult members got to see his true colors. I don't know how there was a lot of positive from him.

If anything, Colt was extremely disappointing. Going from competing for number 2 to struggle for the squad. In his second year he got more time to absorb the offense and he looked worst. Obviously it was preseason, but the coaches saw similar in camp and practice too.

GMScud 09-05-2009 11:51 AM

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Not that Colt has a big salary, but out of curiosity, how does the IR work with the salary cap?

I'm assuming a player who goes down for the year is still paid his base salary, however he's not on the 53 man any longer. My guess is the salary still counts against the cap, but I'd love to know the exact rule (Schneed? Canuk?).

JoeRedskin 09-05-2009 11:52 AM

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[quote=hooskins;584572]No offense, but I am not sold on Daniel either. Him being a short turd, makes it tough in the NFL. He could barely look over the Oline, but at least he has some restrain.

I felt bad for him last game because it looked like the Oline really f'ed up on his snaps. He had to run, because he got about .5 secs, and obviously that's not he shining skill.[/quote]

Chase appears to be a competent, young QB with physical limitations AND he appears to know this and play within his limitations.

He may, one day, be a suitable short term starter as a number 2. He's no great shakes, he just a guy who may develop. Pretty much the same as Colt. I will send each one of you $100.00 on the day either Colt or Chase lead a team through 16 games and takes them to the playoffs.

The Goat 09-05-2009 11:56 AM

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His preseason passer rating was 49.5...Cult of Colt be damned lol :)

Lotus 09-05-2009 12:16 PM

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I'm a little mystified why we did not put him on the PUP list instead.

SFREDSKIN 09-05-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=dblanch66;584529]Still...SFRedskin posted this last night: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[I]Another possibility tomorrow could be to stash Colt in IR for the season and save him for next year and make Daniel our #3 this year. [/I]

Dude, you are a swami![/quote]

Thank you! It only makes sense to do this, it's actually a blessing because now you have Collins play out his contract, we don't know what Campbell's year will be like. Next year you have 2 young QB's in Colt and Daniel one with 3 years under his belt the other with one. You say goodbye to Collins and have 3 good QB's in the 1,2,3 spots. Hopefully Campbell will have a great year.

Hail to the Redskins 09-05-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
Just FYI...

Chase Daniel is no lock to be a Redskin...

The team is cutting him & keeping only 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

If he clears waivers, then practice squad... but someone may just take a flier on him...

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4448091"]Brennan to IR, Daniel Cut[/URL]

WaldSkins 09-05-2009 12:30 PM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
Does this mean were keeping Mason and Aldridge?

GMScud 09-05-2009 12:33 PM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=Hail to the Redskins;584591]Just FYI...

Chase Daniel is no lock to be a Redskin...

The team is cutting him & keeping only 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

If he clears waivers, then practice squad... but someone may just take a flier on him...

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4448091"]Brennan to IR, Daniel Cut[/URL][/quote]

It says he's unlikely to be on the practice squad. I wonder why.

Longtimefan 09-05-2009 12:33 PM

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;584591]Just FYI...

Chase Daniel is no lock to be a Redskin...

The team is cutting him & keeping only 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

If he clears waivers, then practice squad... but someone may just take a flier on him...

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4448091"]Brennan to IR, Daniel Cut[/URL][/quote]


Maybe there are other plans in the making, but starting the season with just two QB's seems a little odd.

WaldSkins 09-05-2009 12:35 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;584596]Maybe there are other plans in the making, but starting the season with just two QB's seems a little odd.[/quote]

Because we are going to keep Daryl Young, we need the roster space.

DBUCHANON101 09-05-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Colt Brennan goes on IR
 
[quote=The Goat;584580]His preseason passer rating was 49.5...Cult of Colt be damned lol :)[/quote]

Yeah those 7 sacks had nothing to do with it. Balt 2nd string OWNED our 2nd string and NE had their starters in when he played..again with our 2nd string. Chase ran for his life in the last game as well with the same results.


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