Obama's speech to students today
 

Here's a link for anyone interested in reading what he's going to [URL="http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/"]say at noon to the students across America. [/URL]

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So why is this a big deal? The President encouraging kids to work hard and stay in school? Oh the horror!

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[quote=Mattyk72;585584]So why is this a big deal? The President encouraging kids to work hard and stay in school? Oh the horror![/quote]

The problem came when Obama's staff or who ever came up with the idea wanted to have the children write an essay to themself on what they can do to help Obama. I think if they would have asked the kids to write on what they could do to help the US there would not have been the fuss. I'm sure after all this attention they have reviewed his speech and changed and removed anything that would be controversial. Not sure why parents are now bitching about this when they send their kids to goverment run schools, have teachers that are goverment employees, and most belong to the left leaning teachers union. That one reason my children go to private schools.

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[quote=firstdown;585594]The problem came when Obama's staff or who ever came up with the idea wanted to have the children write an essay to themself on what they can do to help Obama. I think if they would have asked the kids to write on what they could do to help the US there would not have been the fuss. I'm sure after all this attention they have reviewed his speech and changed and removed anything that would be controversial. Not sure why parents are now bitching about this when they send their kids to goverment run schools, have teachers that are goverment employees, and most belong to the left leaning teachers union. That one reason my children go to private schools.[/quote]

I don't know, I think the outrage runs deeper than that. I wonder how many parents who are up in arms over this have actually read what he's going to say.

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[quote=Mattyk72;585605]I don't know, I think the outrage runs deeper than that. I wonder how many parents who are up in arms over this have actually read what he's going to say.[/quote]
What have I missed? Outrage? For what?

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[quote=Mattyk72;585605]I don't know, I think the outrage runs deeper than that. I wonder how many parents who are up in arms over this have actually read what he's going to say.[/quote]

I think it was just released today or yesterday so most could only go on the essay thing. From what I have heard the speech is pretty much go to school and work hard kind of stuff. At this point it really does not matter if he changed the speech or not if this is correct no harm done.

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I have no problem with it and who knows..........perhaps some kids will benefit from it?

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I'm republican (generally) and I think it's great. Others have done it, and all should do it and more often.

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[quote=Hog1;585619]What have I missed? Outrage? For what?[/quote]

Over his speech. Some parents are holding their kids out of school because of it.

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[quote=Mattyk72;585639]Over his speech. Some parents are holding their kids out of school because of it.[/quote]


i didn't even know about this speech, till i saw it on the warpath. i think it's good for presidents to speak to the children, as long as they say the right things.

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is it going to be on tv ?

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[quote=Mattyk72;585639]Over his speech. Some parents are holding their kids out of school because of it.[/quote]

I hate that, basically brainwashiing by parents. Let the child go and get exposed to a unique event which will never probably happen again to that kid.

I would let my kid go and hear Pat Robertson if he telling my kids to work hard, be good kids and study.

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It's going to be on TV in a few mintues. The speech, which wasn't revised, was released around noon yesterday. The uproar was surrounding some language in the cirriculum, not the speech itself. It said something to the effect of, write the president and let him know how you can help him/country. The White House pulled it and that was that.

It's a sad day when the President of the United States can't address our school children with a positive message about individual responsibility, hard work, and staying in school. Thankfully, and rightfully, some noteworthy Republicans have taken a stand and basically called this silly.

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[quote=hooskins;585653]I hate that, basically brainwashiing by parents. Let the child go and get exposed to a unique event which will never probably happen again to that kid.

I would let my kid go and hear Pat Robertson if he telling my kids to work hard, be good kids and study.[/quote]

I think most would agree with that the problem came when they wanted the kids to write an essay to themself on what they could do to help Obama (which in my opinion is making it political) when they could have said write an essay on how to help the US. I also as a Rep. don't have a problem with him talking to the children but I do feel it should not include anything that could be seen as political. That could also be looked at as trying to brainwash kids. I have heard that parents are also keeping their kids home from school so they can see the speech which makes no sense as they can see it when they get home and Obama wants them in school.

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[quote=firstdown;585656]I think most would agree with that the problem came when they wanted the kids to write an essay to themself on what they could do to help Obama (which in my opinion is making it political) when they could have said write an essay on how to help the US. I also as a Rep. don't have a problem with him talking to the children but I do feel it should not include anything that could be seen as political. That could also be looked at as trying to brainwash kids. I have heard that parents are also keeping their kids home from school so they can see the speech which makes no sense as they can see it when they get home and Obama wants them in school.[/quote]

But Bush Sr. looked into a camera and said the same exact thing?

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[quote=12thMan;585655]It's going to be on TV in a few mintues. The speech, which wasn't revised, was released around noon yesterday. The uproar was surrounding some language in the cirriculum, not the speech itself. It said something to the effect of, write the president and let him know how you can help him/country. The White House pulled it and that was that.

It's a sad day when the President of the United States can't address our school children with a positive message about individual responsibility, hard work, and staying in school. Thankfully, and rightfully, some noteworthy Republicans have taken a stand and basically called this silly.[/quote]
Well from what I read it was revised unless the person speaking for the white house was wrong.
[url=http://news.aol.com/article/obama-school-speech-controversy/655701]Obama School Speech Controversy[/url]

Clip from the article:
She noted that President George H.W. Bush made a similar address to schools in 1991. Like Obama, Bush drew criticism, with Democrats accusing the Republican president of making the event into a campaign commercial.
Critics are particularly upset about lesson plans the administration created to accompany the speech. The lesson plans, available online, originally recommended having students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."
The White House revised the plans Wednesday to say students could "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals."
"That was inartfully worded, and we corrected it," Higginbottom said.

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[quote=firstdown;585663]Well from what I read it was revised unless the person speaking for the white house was wrong.
[URL="http://news.aol.com/article/obama-school-speech-controversy/655701"]Obama School Speech Controversy[/URL]

Clip from the article:
She noted that President George H.W. Bush made a similar address to schools in 1991. Like Obama, Bush drew criticism, with Democrats accusing the Republican president of making the event into a campaign commercial.
Critics are particularly upset about lesson plans the administration created to accompany the speech. The lesson plans, available online, originally recommended having students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."
The White House revised the plans Wednesday to say students could "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals."
"That was inartfully worded, and we corrected it," Higginbottom said.[/quote]

Correct, the plan was revised the speech was not. Maybe I said it inartfully:)

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[quote=firstdown;585594]The problem came when Obama's staff or who ever came up with the idea wanted to have the children write an essay to themself on what they can do to help Obama. I think if they would have asked the kids to write on what they could do to help the US there would not have been the fuss. I'm sure after all this attention they have reviewed his speech and changed and removed anything that would be controversial. [B]Not sure why parents are now bitching about this when they send their kids to goverment run schools, have teachers that are goverment employees, and most belong to the left leaning teachers union. That one reason my children go to private schools.[/B][/quote]

Exactly. So let me get this straight -- parents of children in public schools are upset that they'll be lectured and indoctrinated by a government official?

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[quote=Beemnseven;585681]Exactly. So let me get this straight -- parents of children in public schools are upset that they'll be lectured and indoctrinated by a government official?[/quote]

Yes it is kind of ironic.

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MAN.......this is some...........SERIOUS ridicularity!
Parents who ....have a problem with the President advocating the importance of education and the responsibility is THEIRS to execute the success or failure of same?
AND they would prefer the kids to write a letter to themselves rather than the President to voice what "they" can do to help............
WTF planet am I on?

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[quote=Hog1;585762]MAN.......this is some...........SERIOUS ridicularity!
Parents who ....have a problem with the President advocating the importance of education and the responsibility is THEIRS to execute the success or failure of same?
AND they would prefer the kids to write a letter to themselves rather than the President to voice what "they" can do to help............
WTF planet am I on?[/quote]

Not sure because I did not understand your post one bit. LOL

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It was a little hard to understand.....
[B]Long story short[/B]
people make no sense.......

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[quote=Hog1;585784]It was a little hard to understand.....
[B]Long story short[/B]
people make no sense.......[/quote]

True facts.

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[quote=firstdown;585656]I think most would agree with that the problem came when they wanted the kids to write an essay to themself on what they could do to help Obama (which in my opinion is making it political) when they could have said write an essay on how to help the US. I also as a Rep. don't have a problem with him talking to the children but I do feel it should not include anything that could be seen as political. That could also be looked at as trying to brainwash kids. I have heard that parents are also keeping their kids home from school so they can see the speech which makes no sense as they can see it when they get home and Obama wants them in school.[/quote]
you have got to be kidding? so the parents that keep their kids out of school aren't brain washing them? ill bet they are saying Obama is full of crap, and no democrat knows shit. come on first. nice try

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[quote=dmek25;585880]you have got to be kidding? so the parents that keep their kids out of school aren't brain washing them? ill bet they are saying Obama is full of crap, and no democrat knows shit. come on first. nice try[/quote]

No, that's just responsible parenting ;)

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remember, always vote for the most qualified person :)

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[quote=dmek25;585900]remember, always vote for the most qualified person :)[/quote]

doesn't that rule out everyone on the ballot :)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;585907]doesn't that rule out everyone on the ballot :)[/quote] I say CRedskinsRule/SS33 and Firstdown should run for office , I would be willing to take time out of my life to campaign for you'll . :)

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[quote=budw38;585927]I say CRedskinsRule/SS33 and Firstdown should run for office , I would be willing to take time out of my life to campaign for you'll . :)[/quote]
Back ground check would do me in.

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[quote=dmek25;585880]you have got to be kidding? so the parents that keep their kids out of school aren't brain washing them? ill bet they are saying Obama is full of crap, and no democrat knows shit. come on first. nice try[/quote]
Not sure what you read in my post for that reply.

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Firstdown would finish his campaign speech in Word and the whole document would have a red line under it.

Edukaton is empotent.

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[quote=budw38;585927]I say CRedskinsRule/SS33 and Firstdown should run for office , I would be willing to take time out of my life to campaign for you'll . :)[/quote]

My platform would be:
Dallas Cowboys would be denied 1st and 2nd round picks
Redskins have an unlimited salary cap

And the SB must be played in DC once every 5 years, with or without a domed stadium.

And justice for all (except cowboys fans)

Thank you and have a good day;)

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[quote=Daseal;586038]Firstdown would finish his campaign speech in Word and the whole document would have a red line under it.

Edukaton is empotent.[/quote]

now that was funny :rofl:

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Obama people f'ed up with the lesson plan thing but the content of the speech was excellent.

Those people who want to shelter their children from disagreeable knowledge are only setting them up for failure for wisdom spawns from knowledge irrespective of its agreeableness.

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[quote=budw38;585927]I say CRedskinsRule/SS33 and Firstdown should run for office , I would be willing to take time out of my life to campaign for you'll . :)[/quote]If the Skins FO doesn't call about the Ask SS33 thread and offer me a job, and Glenn Nye votes for ObamaCare, I'll be taking you up on that. :laughing2

And I'm completely committed to CSkin's platform with the addition of Wade Phillips being the Cowboys coach for life.

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[quote=saden1;586047]Obama people f'ed up with the lesson plan thing but the content of the speech was excellent.

Those people who want to shelter their children from disagreeable knowledge are only setting them up for failure for wisdom spawns from knowledge irrespective of its agreeableness.[/quote]

The problem is that they did not release his speach until Monday and the only thing people knew about was the lesson plan stuff. I agree you cannot shelter your child but school is not the place for a president to make a political statement which some people feared and did not want their children to be a part of it. The speech was good and not political so there is really not much to discuss. I'm sure many people wonder if that was because of the public reaction or was it never intended to be political.

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[quote=Daseal;586038]Firstdown would finish his campaign speech in Word and the whole document would have a red line under it.

Edukaton is empotent.[/quote]

Whats word? and you really think I could write my speech. LOL

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Did people think Obama was going to try to push healthcare reform on kids or what??

Are we that paranoid as a society that we can't trust the President to speak to our kids, or are we that dumb?

I can't help but think there's some racist undertones with all of this "outrage".

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[quote=Mattyk72;586066]Did people think Obama was going to try to push healthcare reform on kids or what??

Are we that paranoid as a society that we can't trust the President to speak to our kids, or are we that dumb?

I can't help but think there's some racist undertones with all of this "outrage".[/quote]

Stop with the stupid race card that the left plays anytime someone does not agree with Obama. It was the stupid lesson plan he wanted the kids to do to help HIM which was out before they released his speach 4 or 5 days later. Did I think Obama was going to push healthcare reform on the kids? I don't think he was going to push the healthcare thing but the lesson plan to help Obama seems fishy to me. After all the fuss they had plenty of time to review and change his speech so we will never know what he was going to say before the fuss. If Bush did this the left would have flipped if he wanted to ask kids to write an essay on how to help him. I actually don't think it was that much outrage just what was there was all over the news.

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I'm at a loss as to why there would be any outrage over a back to school speech made to kids, so to me it's perfectly reasonable to suggest racism may be at play. Not by the media or those on the right, but by some of the parents that were so outraged over it. I saw this one woman who seemed so offended that the President dare speak to her kids I was simply amazed. If you think racism has zero to do with this, I think you're dreaming.