Stop Overreacting
 

Immediately following the game, it seems like everyone was talking about the next head coach, quarterback and GM of the Redskins.

I'd just like to suggest that the reason we lost the game Sunday was because of this type of overreaction coming from team management (Snyder).

For years, Snyder has been a typical fan - reactive. His track record of trading draft picks, firing coaches every year or so, and bringing in aging free agents are all what happens when a fan becomes an owner.

Thankfully, it seems like after years of overreacting, the owner has started to become more forward-looking (slightly) and put a strategy in place that will put the Redskins on the right path in the long-term - focusing on building through the draft and finding proven players in free agency who are at their prime.

I think it is time for everyone to step back and take a collective breath. On Sunday, the Redskins played a team that may have not been significantly more athletic but played and functioned as a unit that has been together for years. The reason the Giants are such a fantastic team in fact is because of continuity and good coaching -

I think the verdict is still out on whether or not we have the latter but if the Redskins continue to react year-in and year-out they will surely never have the former and never be the type of team we all want.

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I will be trying to take this approach as long as we start throwing the ball to the #2 receiver(whoever that ends up being) much much much much much more.

Zorn keeps saying they doubled Santana... they brought the safety over.

I was begging a reporter to ask if that means that the #2 was incapable of beating single coverage and if so why? Why did they throw to the #2 outside receiver one time in the game?

Please explain this to us coach?

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Drift, you make a good point.

I've stopped coming on here during or immediately after a game as I'm far too emotional post-loss.

We should see the other side of the Redskins next Sunday when we play the Rams.

If we can run a 5 TD score and hold them out of the end zone it'll be a great statement. I am certainly expecting better from this squad and an early loss to a Giants team may be what they need to give them (and some of us) a reality check.

p.s. I've also given up drinking Vodka, Red Bull and Mountain Dew during the games too.

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[quote=RedskinRat;589052]Drift, you make a good point.

I've stopped coming on here during or immediately after a game as I'm far too emotional post-loss.

We should see the other side of the Redskins next Sunday when we play the Rams.

If we can run a 5 TD score and hold them out of the end zone it'll be a great statement. I am certainly expecting better from this squad and an early loss to a Giants team may be what they need to give them (and some of us) a reality check.

p.s. I've also given up drinking Vodka, Red Bull and Mountain Dew during the games too.[/quote]

The STL game will be telling - if they lose to STL (which is always a possibility) then I do think it is worth talking about Zorn.

I honestly think that in the past year, the GM has done a good job getting talented players into Washington and I think most insiders would agree that even though Cerrato still gets hosed on a deal here and there, the Redskins are a talented team.

I also think all the critique of Campbell is really unwarranted. He is never going to be an elite quarterback but I think he can certainly be a Brad Johnson (in his prime) type of quarterback who can be a quarterback on a super bowl team as long as he has all the complimentary pieces. The problem with getting rid of Campbell is that the search for an elite quarterback is sort of like a holy grail. There are less than five truly elite quarterbacks in the league.

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I think DFI was kind of saying the same thing in his thread........I love this board in the off season but........

We feel you though.

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[quote=Longtimefan;589059]I think DFI was kind of saying the same thing in his thread........I love this board in the off season but........

We feel you though.[/quote]

It's really disconcerting to hear people say they love a Redskins board in the off-season. That's like saying I love the city of New York....when I'm in Chicago

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[quote=SmootSmack;589062]It's really disconcerting to hear people say they love a Redskins board in the off-season. That's like saying I love the city of New York....when I'm in Chicago[/quote]

I was going to say that when he posted, now you said it for me.

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I don't see how it's overreacting? A loss is a loss. No more excuses. I'm not overreacting. My football team is underperforming.

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i agree about the overreacting part but in order to become a superbowl contender we must place focus on the trenches. O-line play and d-line play it's plain and simple, the teams that have these are in the running every year. Now what sense doesn't it make to draft let's say Colt McCoy if he will eventually have the same protection breakdown. Did you see how many times Blache blitzed Eli but they only got to him twice, and one causing a fumble. I would love that ratio to be in our favor, but when we can't hand the ball off to Portis without Tuck & company on him instantly. Basicially, the giants pick up the blitz better and puts more pressure on the QB then we do (ala the Pats & Colts).

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Yes it is won in the trenches. I don't think we are that bad of a team. I just think that the Giants o-line and d-line were SUPERIOR. You have a constant rotation of 4 pro bowl caliber ends. Our O-line can handle some things but not that. They did okay. But giving up 3 sacks is not good. The D-line. Had a little more push. But we need some sacks. We need to put some of these young boys on the D-line and let them go at it. Makes more sense. Orakpo/Jarmon vs Daniels/Wynn.

Oh my bad Daniels and Wynn are more for stopping the run..

Think about it. The vigorous challenges of being in the trenches. I would want a young person with a lot of energy. Plus Phillips and Carter are pretty slow when RBs come of the edge. But people might say. They are playing because of experieince. Well we need results. They have been with this team for years and haven't done squat. Experieince doesn't help when your tired too old or too slow. This is football not shuffle board.

I am beginning to lose fatih in Blache. Truly. Does he know what he is doing?

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[quote=Drift Reality;589047]Immediately following the game, it seems like everyone was talking about the next head coach, quarterback and GM of the Redskins.

I'd just like to suggest that the reason we lost the game Sunday was because of this type of overreaction coming from team management (Snyder).

For years, Snyder has been a typical fan - reactive. His track record of trading draft picks, firing coaches every year or so, and bringing in aging free agents are all what happens when a fan becomes an owner.

Thankfully, it seems like after years of overreacting, the owner has started to become more forward-looking (slightly) and put a strategy in place that will put the Redskins on the right path in the long-term - focusing on building through the draft and finding proven players in free agency who are at their prime.

I think it is time for everyone to step back and take a collective breath. On Sunday, the Redskins played a team that may have not been significantly more athletic but played and functioned as a unit that has been together for years. The reason the Giants are such a fantastic team in fact is because of continuity and good coaching -

I think the verdict is still out on whether or not we have the latter but if the Redskins continue to react year-in and year-out they will surely never have the former and never be the type of team we all want.[/quote]

When can you not over react when they are 0-5? or loose to the Lions!?

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well since I said it I was meaning that I have a hard time with all of the overreacting and fire x bench y and all of the things said that are not fit to rewrite

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;589087]Yes it is won in the trenches. I don't think we are that bad of a team. I just think that the Giants o-line and d-line were SUPERIOR. [B]You have a constant rotation of 4 pro bowl caliber ends.[/B] Our O-line can handle some things but not that. They did okay. But giving up 3 sacks is not good. The D-line. Had a little more push. But we need some sacks. We need to put some of these young boys on the D-line and let them go at it. Makes more sense. Orakpo/Jarmon vs Daniels/Wynn.

Oh my bad Daniels and Wynn are more for stopping the run..

Think about it. The vigorous challenges of being in the trenches. I would want a young person with a lot of energy. Plus Phillips and Carter are pretty slow when RBs come of the edge. But people might say. They are playing because of experieince. Well we need results. They have been with this team for years and haven't done squat. Experieince doesn't help when your tired too old or too slow. This is football not shuffle board.

I am beginning to lose fatih in Blache. Truly. Does he know what he is doing?[/quote]Probably a little overdone here. Tuck might be the best 4-3 DE in the league. When Osi is healthy, he's a beast. But Kiwanuka is not really any better than Orakpo already is in a limited amount of downs he does, and after that, no one else on the Giants DL is really noteworthy. They're deep, but not with pro-bowl caliber players.

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[quote=Njall;589089]When can you not over react when they are 0-5? or loose to the Lions!?[/quote]

:confused: What the hell? We haven't lost to the lions yet, nor are we 0-5?

It's hangover Monday, isn't it?

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I always picture some people here looking like this after a loss

[IMG]http://members.shaw.ca/alvandyk/HeadExplode.gif[/IMG]

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It's the 1st game, now we've had live action and we know what we have to work on let's see if we can make the necessary changes. We are talking as if the giants are not a good team i have to give them there props there good but they were playing at home with aloud crowd wait till we get them at our house.

HTTR.

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[quote=Mattyk72;589096]I always picture some people here looking like this after a loss

[IMG]http://members.shaw.ca/alvandyk/HeadExplode.gif[/IMG][/quote]

Nice! That's me during the game, for sure.

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My Cowboys friend who lives in DC called me a little while ago laughing about how much the sky is falling on DC sports talk radio. Frustration, angst, even anger are understandable. People completely giving up on September 14th, not so much.

That being said, I am in the 'prove it' column on Jim Zorn. Just wanted to state that for consistency sake.

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[quote=Drift Reality;589047]Immediately following the game, it seems like everyone was talking about the next head coach, quarterback and GM of the Redskins.

[B]I'd just like to suggest that the reason we lost the game Sunday was because of this type of overreaction coming from team management (Snyder). [/B]
For years, Snyder has been a typical fan - reactive. His track record of trading draft picks, firing coaches every year or so, and bringing in aging free agents are all what happens when a fan becomes an owner.

Thankfully, it seems like after years of overreacting, the owner has started to become more forward-looking (slightly) and put a strategy in place that will put the Redskins on the right path in the long-term - focusing on building through the draft and finding proven players in free agency who are at their prime.

I think it is time for everyone to step back and take a collective breath. On Sunday, the Redskins played a team that may have not been significantly more athletic but played and functioned as a unit that has been together for years. The reason the Giants are such a fantastic team in fact is because of continuity and good coaching -

I think the verdict is still out on whether or not we have the latter but if the Redskins continue to react year-in and year-out they will surely never have the former and never be the type of team we all want.[/quote]

I agree with your overall point, but this element of your point doesn't really make sense, especially given the substance of what you immediately follow it with. But again, yes, I agree that it is too soon to draw conclusions about the overall quality of the team.

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I don't think folks are overreacting. They just expect more from this team (perhaps falsely so due to excellent marketing by the Skins organization, players, and some local media IMO) and when they don't live up to this perceived talent and execute poorly--then people react accordingly. If expectations were not so built up and more in line with the true talent of this team and coaching staff--then I think most folks would stay medium.

The Skins are in that second dozen or so teams in this league. They could either perform well and just get into the playoffs or perform poorly and be sub-mediocre. The Skins lead the league in players that "think" they are good. Stop thinking and just show me is what I say. If they play well and lose I think most of us would not be so frustrated.

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[quote=Mattyk72;589096]I always picture some people here looking like this after a loss

[IMG]http://members.shaw.ca/alvandyk/HeadExplode.gif[/IMG][/quote]

Who was that mayor (I think mayor maybe governer) about 15 or more years back who called a press conference and blew his head off. I was home sick and saw it live before they had the chance to turn away the camera he stuck a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. Everyone started yelling for him to stop and when the gun went off everyone started yelling as his brain splattered on the back drop behind him. I just sat their and was thinking what in the hell did I just see.

I had to look it up and it was Budd Dwyer [url=http://www.mahalo.com/budd-dwyer]Budd Dwyer[/url]

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it aint over but jason cant get it done this year he is through

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[quote=DynamiteRave;589095]:confused: What the hell? We haven't lost to the lions yet, nor are we 0-5?

It's hangover Monday, isn't it?[/quote]

You said it. We have not lost to the Lions yet. We are 0-1 only 4 away... Lost a game to the Giants could have been won.

Sep 20 STL @ WAS
Sep 27 WAS @ DET
Oct 04 TB @ WAS
Oct 11 WAS @ CAR
Oct 18 KC @ WAS
Oct 26 PHI @ WAS

Before the bye week.

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[quote=Njall;589716]You said it. We have not lost to the Lions yet. We are 0-1 only 4 away... Lost a game to the Giants could have been won.

Sep 20 STL @ WAS
Sep 27 WAS @ DET
Oct 04 TB @ WAS
Oct 11 WAS @ CAR
Oct 18 KC @ WAS
Oct 26 PHI @ WAS

Before the bye week.[/quote]

I take no game for granted.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;589068]I don't see how it's overreacting? A loss is a loss. No more excuses. I'm not overreacting. My football team is underperforming.[/quote]

I don't think you are over reacting. The QB is weak in decision making. That's the bottom line. Cannot handle complicated offensive plays, read who is open or better yet, who will be open down field. Don't blame Zorn, he didn't draft him.

Thank goodness for a decent Def.

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[quote=Njall;589089]When can you not over react when they are 0-5? or loose to the Lions!?[/quote]

Nope.....losing to the Rams would send alot of people over the edge.

I dont consider my comments to be overreacting, Im just a realist, and Im calling it how I see it. Although I dont always agree with others opinions on here, I still enjoy reading the craziness that comes with a FAN MESSAGE BOARD. If you dont want to read it, move to the next page.

With that said, Zorn better open up the passing game this week. His playcalling is the biggest problem IMO, so Im hoping we can forget about last week, and put a beatdown on a pathetic Rams team. If not.......be prepared because its gonna be a crazy week on the Warpath.

Hail!

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Some consider it overreacting, some call it frustration as a result of continuing to witness basically the same type football from this team that's been prevelent the past several years. So in essence it not about giving up on the team after one loss. It's a pattern, and the accumulative reaction to that pattern that has many fans up in arms.

I'm hoping for a better performance on Sunday, and a spark of new attitude after we defeat the Rams.

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[quote=Longtimefan;591203]Some consider it overreacting, some call it frustration as a result of continuing to witness basically the same type football from this team that's been prevelent the past several years. So in essence it not about giving up on the team after one loss. It's a pattern, and the accumulative reaction to that pattern that has many fans up in arms.

[B]I'm hoping for a better performance on Sunday, and a spark of new attitude after we defeat the Rams[/B].[/quote]

That's what I'm looking for. I think once it happens, it will set the course for the rest of the season.

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Let's not have group think, this is a fan site...what makes this site great is the extreme viewpoints and weird scenarios.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;589101]It's the 1st game, now we've had live action and we know what we have to work on let's see if we can make the necessary changes. We are talking as if the giants are not a good team i have to give them there props there good but they were playing at home with aloud crowd wait till we get them at our house.

HTTR.[/quote]

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. We have no idea how good the Giants are yet.

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0-1 is not the end of the world . I think for most , the frustration comes from the fact we seemed to be the team on the rise ,,,, NYG lose Burress and Toomer , we gain AH / Orakpo . MK , DT , and FD in year two are going to make something happen , yet we had ZERO td's from our offense 59 minutes into the game ,,,, poor performance = bad fan reaction ,,,,,,, we need 27 - 10 win today .