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Is there a point to this thread?

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[quote=Lotus;590268]Is there a point to this thread?[/quote]

Somebody likes to use there new thread poster power

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I remember my first 100 posts.....

<sigh>

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[quote=WaldSkins;590277]Somebody likes to use there new thread poster power[/quote]

Why don't the mods have that thing where before you can make your own threads, you have the post 100 replies first?

That was such a good idea. Looks like it needs to be reinstated :Smoker:

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[quote=WaldSkins;590277]Somebody likes to use there new thread poster power[/quote]

It's gone to his head, he must be STOPPED!!! :benched:

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Ok, I will defend him sorta. Look nothing like remembering the great moments in Skins history. I imagine he was trying to compare/contrast to JC, but really all it shows is that we have won it all with many a qb. I LOVE THE SKINS & THEIR SB WINS!!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;590315]Ok, I will defend him sorta. Look nothing like remembering the great moments in Skins history. I imagine he was trying to compare/contrast to JC, but really all [B]it shows is that we have won it all with many a qb[/B]. I LOVE THE SKINS & THEIR SB WINS!![/quote]

Many a QB or 1 Joe Gibbs?

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[quote=waldskins;590369]many a qb or 1 joe gibbs?[/quote]

aha! :)

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[quote=Lotus;590268]Is there a point to this thread?[/quote]


I am trying to figure that out myself. I absolutely hated Jay Shroeder when I was younger. Could't stand him.

But as someone stated earlier. It was more about Gibbs than the QBs. I think that is what Zorn needs to learn. Gibbs was a motivator and also knew how to use his players and make game plans for his personnel and also he made good half time adjustments. Anyways. Can someone kill this thread. I think we all have access to YouTube

Post = Fail

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[quote=WaldSkins;590369]Many a QB or 1 Joe Gibbs?[/quote]

well the point of his videos is many qbs, ignoring Joe Gibbs would be imbecilic, and I would hate to call any poster on here that ;)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;590423]well the point of his videos is many qbs, ignoring Joe Gibbs would be imbecilic, and I would hate to call any poster on here that ;)[/quote]

Think it could be a better post if he set up the videos with a few words on why he posted them. But to name it Red[B]S[/B]kins QB's and then just post videos of Redskins QB's that we all know played on the team is kinda pointless.

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dmv clearly you are not using the 1st kind of intelligence, but rather the 2nd. It is all clear if we lose the ego in our society and seek enlightenment of mind body soul, then no words would need to be said, but each, by the greatness of that which is, would be refreshed and rejoice among the community of the brethren of that which is the Redskins QBs.

Or put another way, yes it is pointless. but still good videos

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;590418]I am trying to figure that out myself. I absolutely hated Jay Shroeder when I was younger. Could't stand him.

But as someone stated earlier. It was more about Gibbs than the QBs. I think that is what Zorn needs to learn. Gibbs was a motivator and also knew how to use his players and make game plans for his personnel and also he made good half time adjustments. Anyways. Can someone kill this thread. I think we all have access to YouTube

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More about Gibbs? Sorry jack, but a coach is only as great as the players he has around him. Gibbs II wasn't so great now was it? Thing is the first time around he had players that wanted to win from a bygone era and a FO that was second to none. Pretty hard to lose with that combo.

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[quote=credskinsrule;590427]dmv clearly you are not using the 1st kind of intelligence, but rather the 2nd. It is all clear if we lose the ego in our society and seek enlightenment of mind body soul, then no words would need to be said, but each, by the greatness of that which is, would be refreshed and rejoice among the community of the brethren of that which is the redskins qbs.

Or put another way, yes it is pointless. But still good videos[/quote]

Okay enough of the Esoteric teachings.

Yes they are good videos. but atleast set them up with a short paragraph. Or a better title. "Successful QBs under Gibbs" or something that states why he posted the videos.

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Oh yeah not to mention an unlimited war chest.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;590427]dmv clearly you are not using the 1st kind of intelligence, but rather the 2nd. It is all clear if we lose the ego in our society and seek enlightenment of mind body soul, then no words would need to be said, but each, by the greatness of that which is, would be refreshed and rejoice among the community of the brethren of that which is the Redskins QBs.

Or put another way, yes it is pointless. but still good videos[/quote]

:laughing- I thought I understood that for a minute and it scared the s**t out of me.

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I cant say much seeing as im still a camp scrubber but its a little thread happy...i was looking for a thread on who could our future qb should we give up on JC but this was outta left field

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man i remember that 86 team that lost to the giants 3 TIMES.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;590435]More about Gibbs? Sorry jack, but a coach is only as great as the players he has around him. Gibbs II wasn't so great now was it? Thing is the first time around he had players that wanted to win from a bygone era and a FO that was second to none. Pretty hard to lose with that combo.[/quote]


Umm. Do you remember the strike year?

Okay then..He may have had some good players. But Gibbs was known to make his players better. His players didn't make him. He put them in positions where they could succeed.

I guess no other players in the NFL during that era on other teams wanted to win either..

We have talented players now. Are we winning? Are you a Gibbs hater? One of those people not thankful for him bringing us 3 superbowls just because his second coming fell short. If so I dont repsect you as a Redskins fan. Maybe you should cheer for the Lions since you are in Detroit. This isn't about all the players. The title is Redskins QB's. The ones under Gibbs weren't that great. They were good. Gibbs is in the hall of fame. Besides Theisman. The rest were good but not great (under Gibbs). But they maintained the game and played hard. Occasionally having great games. Which is no knock on them at all. But to say it was all about the players and not Gibbs is suspect

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;590425]Think it could be a better post if he set up the videos with a few words on why he posted them. But to name it Red[B]S[/B]kins QB's and then just post videos of Redskins QB's that we all know played on the team is kinda pointless.[/quote]

Wait to you see my follow up thread where i just show videos of redskins running backs. I call it RedSkins RB's

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[quote=WaldSkins;590455]Wait to you see my follow up thread where i just show videos of redskins running backs. I call it RedSkins RB's[/quote]

LMAO. You gonna put all the Redskins RB's in the entire history of the franchise or just the Gibbs era? :D

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Mental note.......ignore any thread started by Njall! :)

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;590461]LMAO. You gonna put all the Redskins RB's in the entire history of the franchise or just the Gibbs era? :D[/quote]

Boston Braves and all

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[quote=waldskins;590479]boston braves and all[/quote]

rotfl

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Man, I've never seen such vitriol at someone who posts videos of the Redskins glory days.

I enjoyed it.

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Stop sucking so bad man.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;590315]Ok, I will defend him sorta. Look nothing like remembering the great moments in Skins history. I imagine he was trying to compare/contrast to JC, but really all it shows is that we have won it all with many a qb. I LOVE THE SKINS & THEIR SB WINS!![/quote]

I think that was the point, but you are correct, it really does not make that point. Also, if you go back and look at the statistics and careers of all the "great" Redskins QBs, none of them were really all that mind blowing and none of them made an impact on the Redskins until they were over 30 years old.

Theismann did not have a decent NFL season until he was 30, did not complete 60% of his passes until the strike-shortened '82 season and did not have a great NFL season until his age 34 season.

Jurgensen is the only Hall of Famer and he did not come to the team until his age 30 season.

Williams never completed more than 57% of his passes in any year of his career and never started more than 10 games in a season for the Redskins. He played a great game in the Super Bowl, but he was far from a great NFL quarterback.

In '86 when Jay Schroeder threw for 4,000 yards he only completed 51% of his passes and threw 22 interceptions to match his 22 touchdowns.

Brad Johnson was 31 when he threw for 4,000 yards in 1999.

Even in his magical '91 season Mark Rypien (at age 29) only completed 59% of his passes and never completed over 60% of his passes at any time in his NFL career.

The bottom line is that the Redskins have had some good teams, but there is not a rich quarterback tradition in D.C. Whether or not Jason Campbell proves himself as a long-term solution in Washington he is actually the most accomplished QB at the youngest age that the team has had since Sammy Baugh. So I guess we have been waiting for a home-grown franchise quarterback since 1952. What is another 15 games to see what we've got in Campbell ; )

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;590315]Ok, I will defend him sorta. Look nothing like remembering the great moments in Skins history. I imagine he was trying to compare/contrast to JC, but really all it shows is that we have won it all with many a qb. I LOVE THE SKINS & THEIR SB WINS!![/quote]

Thank you... Smart man. That was the point to remember . Many seem to forget the 80's teams and what made Washington win and what made them loose.

If you look at Zorn and Campbell they are not anything what Redskin's football should be...

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[quote=Lotus;590268]Is there a point to this thread?[/quote]

There is a point and it does hurt you . Campbell could not even be near these QB's. I forgot to put Joe in there but did not want to hurt all Campbell fan's.

Are you even a Redskin's fan? How can you be and think Campbell will take you to the Superbowl? Not even a playoff game.

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[quote=WaldSkins;590455]Wait to you see my follow up thread where i just show videos of redskins running backs. I call it RedSkins RB's[/quote]

I want to see that . :woot: Rather see the good times than this years offense under Campbell and Zorn.

Alot of money spent and same Skin's 8-8 this year.

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[quote=Njall;591030]There is a point and it does hurt you . Campbell could not even be near these QB's. I forgot to put Joe in there but did not want to hurt all Campbell fan's.

Are you even a Redskin's fan? How can you be and think Campbell will take you to the Superbowl? Not even a playoff game.[/quote]

You know what's interesting is how the following seems to be overlooked:

- Rypien spent the 1986 and 1987 seasons on injured reserve, so really he was in his 6th season playing when they won the Super Bowl (and of course, that was a great team all around)

- Doug Williams started less than a full season for the Redskins during his time here and had a losing record with us. But he had the magic touch for one month in 1988. (He was 2-0 during the regular season as the "relief QB")

- Joe Theismann spent I believe 4 years as the punt returner/backup QB and then another 4 until he got the Redskins to the Super Bowl (not to mention all the years he spent in the CFL prior to all that)

So why can't Campbell ever accomplish what any of those guys did?

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[quote=Njall;591029]Thank you... Smart man. That was the point to remember . Many seem to forget the 80's teams and what made Washington win and what made them loose.

If you look at Zorn and Campbell they are not anything what Redskin's football should be...[/quote]

Whoa easy there big fella. Please don't try to construe what I said as agreeing with your bad opinion of JC/Zorn. In fact I was saying just the opposite. That the glory day 'skins won without brand name passers. it was the team through and through that made the Skins SB champs those years, and Gibbs had a lot to do with that.

I look for JC and Zorn to click and demonstrate that they do have the playoffs/SB in sight.

It's funny because in many ways JC is the best qb we have had, and yet you compare him to one/two year wonders of Williams and Rypien.

Just wanted to be clear

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damn I loved that video of sonny,especially his second pass where hes backpedaling 15 yrds and throws a perfect pass while hes still backpedaling.
What the hell was that last video? Anybody watch it but me? Its the end of the game and it doesnt show anything but the giants celebrating,and jay S lost the game,why include that video?

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Off topic question for the mods.
Why ban someone? it only takes a few min to create a new email account and come back. I understand you are trying to keep order but in the end....

"You cant take away people's right to be @$$holes" -Simon Phoenix- :)

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;591148]Off topic question for the mods.
Why ban someone? it only takes a few min to create a new email account and come back. I understand you are trying to keep order but in the end....

"You cant take away people's right to be @$$holes" -Simon Phoenix- :)[/quote]

They have their wayd... The Ego is all powerful...and is armed with IP addresses. IPs don't lie...sometimes.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;591148]Off topic question for the mods.
Why ban someone? it only takes a few min to create a new email account and come back. I understand you are trying to keep order but in the end....

"You cant take away people's right to be @$$holes" -Simon Phoenix- :)[/quote]

Son, we post on a message board that has rules and those rules need to be enforced by mods with ban power. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Dirtbag? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Njall and curse the Moderators; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Njall's dismissal, while tragic, probably saved this message board and that the mods' existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps the board worth visiting. You don't want the truth because deep down in threads you don't talk about in the parking lot you want people banned, you need people banned....

We have ways of keeping people from returning after being banned

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[quote=SmootSmack;591176]Son, we post on a message board that has rules and those rules need to be enforced by mods with ban power. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Dirtbag? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Njall and curse the Moderators; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Njall's dismissal, while tragic, probably saved this message board and that the mods' existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps the board worth visiting. You don't want the truth because deep down in threads you don't talk about in the parking lot you want people banned, you need people banned....

We have ways of keeping people from returning after being banned[/quote]

Soylent Green is people.........

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[quote=SmootSmack;591176]Son, we post on a message board that has rules and those rules need to be enforced by mods with ban power. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Dirtbag? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Njall and curse the Moderators; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Njall's dismissal, while tragic, probably saved this message board and that the mods' existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, keeps the board worth visiting. You don't want the truth because deep down in threads you don't talk about in the parking lot you want people banned, you need people banned....

We have ways of keeping people from returning after being banned[/quote]

I have one final question:

Did you order the thread closure?!?