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sancho2613 09-22-2009 04:28 PM

Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I was reading some articles on PFT and saw this one: [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/22/zorn-im-not-worried-about-my-job/]Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job" | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

skinsfaninok 09-22-2009 05:15 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
Yea well zorn should be concentrating on the lions, because if we don't score more than 9 PTs this wk we will get beat...

RedskinRat 09-22-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
Neither was I until the boss called me in for one of those Friday afternoon 'unannounced' chats.

:mad:

DynamiteRave 09-22-2009 06:11 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;593774]Yea well zorn should be concentrating on the lions, because if we don't score more than 9 PTs this wk we will get beat...[/quote]

If we can't score more than 9 points against the stinky ass Lions, we without a doubt, are a failure of a football team. And I'd say 10 points or less against the Lions are grounds for a firing...

Ruhskins 09-22-2009 06:12 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;593793]If we can't score more than 9 points against the stinky ass Lions, we without a doubt, are a failure of a football team. And I'd say 10 points or less against the Lions are grounds for a firing...[/quote]

Even if they win?

DynamiteRave 09-22-2009 06:13 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=Ruhskins;593794]Even if they win?[/quote]

Well if they win then Zorn lives to coach another day. The fans on the other hand (more than likely myself included) will probably go apeshit.

Trample the Elderly 09-22-2009 06:13 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I'm sure that a lot of people aren't worried about Zorn's job right now either.

DBUCHANON101 09-22-2009 06:13 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=RedskinRat;593792]Neither was I until the boss called me in for one of those Friday afternoon 'unannounced' chats.

:mad:[/quote]

Yeah i feel you man, i got one of those the day before Thanksgiving about 3 yrs ago.We came in and had a party with food and right when we were getting ready to go home for the holiday he calls me in. I could have beat his @$$

jsarno 09-22-2009 06:20 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
Maybe he should be worried about his job...I know I can perform poorly for a day or two and still keep my job, but consistantly performing poorly when I was supposedly a good offensive mind...well I would change things to ensure my job security. So maybe Zorn needs to look over his shoulder and worry about that pink slip.

Longtimefan 09-22-2009 06:23 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I wouldn't expect him to say he was worried about his job if/when he's asked the question, if things do not get better perhaps he should be concerned. I do think he will last the season regardless of what happens.

jsarno 09-22-2009 06:27 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=Longtimefan;593802]I wouldn't expect him to say he was worried about his job if/when he's asked the question, if things do not get better perhaps he should be concerned. I do think he will last the season regardless of what happens.[/quote]

If we lose the next two games, he won't make it to season's end.

CRedskinsRule 09-22-2009 06:52 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=jsarno;593805]If we lose the next two games, he won't make it to season's end.[/quote]

if I win $10,000,000 I would lose my job (ok, leave :) ) but that ain't happening. and we aren't losing both of the next two games either.

jsarno 09-22-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;593815]if I win $10,000,000 I would lose my job (ok, leave :) ) but that ain't happening. and we aren't losing both of the next two games either.[/quote]

I certainly hope you're right (and if you win 10 mil, remember your friends here on warpath ;)
We certainly should not lose. We better not lose.
I would say your chances of winning 10 mil is likely 0 cause you don't play, but at best the odds are somewhere around 1 in a billion. While the odds of the skins losing the next two games are 1 in 8 or so.

CRedskinsRule 09-22-2009 07:07 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I would say the odds of the skins losing both of the next two games is far worse than 1 in 8. people need to stop looking at the games like "fans" before you judge what really happened. Yes I hated the game, yes it aggravates me, but for the last quarter of that game the only reason I was afraid we could lose was because of the past. The skins moved the ball at will, with good plays by campbell when needed. yes the redzone looked cruddy, but we were there for 16+ plays. (good that we were there cruddy that we didn't get 7 any time) the rams had one long run and some basic plays. Detroit is not a magical team, nor is Tampa. People need to relax, look at what went right, and eat the red gummy bears!

tryfuhl 09-22-2009 07:16 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;593824]I would say the odds of the skins losing both of the next two games is far worse than 1 in 8. people need to stop looking at the games like "fans" before you judge what really happened. Yes I hated the game, yes it aggravates me, but for the last quarter of that game the only reason I was afraid we could lose was because of the past. The skins moved the ball at will, with good plays by campbell when needed. yes the redzone looked cruddy, but we were there for 16+ plays. (good that we were there cruddy that we didn't get 7 any time) the rams had one long run and some basic plays. Detroit is not a magical team, nor is Tampa. People need to relax, look at what went right, and [B]eat the red gummy bears[/B]![/quote]

Hey bro you're jocking my style from the other thread :p

Anyways, Zorn will have a problem becoming an OC again after losing the HC job here.. he'll be back to QB or out of the NFL most likely

CultBrennan59 09-22-2009 07:17 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
we'll find a way to suck this game, just like we did last year

T.O.Killa 09-22-2009 07:23 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I think we are going to win big.

Beemnseven 09-22-2009 07:36 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
Zorn shouldn't be concerned about losing his job. He's not getting fired during the season.

Meks 09-22-2009 07:39 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
yea we do have the potential to win big over the lions ...

the bucs, while they are not the bucs of old are not a bad team ...

and byron lefty isnt a bad Qb either...

we'll have to play hard and smart to beat Tampa, point blaNK.

as for the lions... pressure the QB with exotic, please!, exotic looking blitzes and crazy schemes ... PLEASE! ... and our D will have a monster day and the offense could blow up also...

could be a very good day for the burgandy and gold.

if we play a base D and just sit in zones, rookie qb or not ... calvin johnson will rip the DBs with a better overall play-making ability and we will be having a long day.

hope that our D doesnt let us down because thats the only way i really see us losing this game.... if Blache is to vanilla.
cuz we already know wat 2 expect from zorns offense...

53Fan 09-22-2009 07:42 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;593815][B]if I win $10,000,000[/B] I would lose my job (ok, leave :) ) but that ain't happening. and we aren't losing both of the next two games either.[/quote]

I think this would be a good time to remind you that I have supported your views from day 1. :)

CRedskinsRule 09-22-2009 08:27 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=53Fan;593838]I think this would be a good time to remind you that I have supported your views from day 1. :)[/quote]

:rofl: and it would be well rewarded my friend :food-smil

Lotus 09-22-2009 08:28 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I don't see Zorn getting fired unless and until we are eliminated from playoff contention.

CultBrennan59 09-22-2009 08:29 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
Sonny really pissed off Zorn

"Third down, I'm the quarterback, and you call the halfback throwing the ball for me, I'm calling timeout or calling an audible," Jurgensen said. "I'm not letting the halfback throw it. That's what you pay me for."
"Well, then, I would have to take you out of the game," Zorn countered. "As soon as you called timeout, I'd say what's wrong with my play, because...."
"It didn't work!" Jurgensen interrupted.
There was a long pause.
"No, but I called it to work. All right?" Zorn said. "We called it to work. It didn't work. There were a lot of plays out there that didn't work. And I'd take you out of the game. Sorry, Sonny."


sonny's smarter than zorn and zorn should b takin his advice

jsarno 09-22-2009 09:15 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;593851]

[b]sonny's smarter than zorn and zorn should b takin his advice[/b][/quote]

I feel the need to point out that Zorn is the coach and Sonny is not for a reason...now, that being said, how exactly is Sonny smarter than Zorn?

(can't believe I am defending Zorn right now)

wilsowilso 09-22-2009 09:24 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I have figured out with the help of my brother the one question I wish would have been asked at the Monday Zorn press conference.

"Hey coach it seems you are very serious about attention to detail in the way you approach your job. If a young player doesn't pay attention to detail he doesn't play. Trust seems to be a big issue with regards to detail.

That being said coach you almost called a timeout in the final minutes at the begining of the play clock when you were in fact trying to run out the clock....would you say that you were not paying attention to a major detail in clock management when you made that mistake and if so how do you think this lesson might influence the way you coach with regards to details?"

The Goat 09-22-2009 09:26 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;593797]I'm sure that a lot of people aren't worried about Zorn's job right now either.[/quote]

Good stuff...will you be around all week :)

jsarno 09-22-2009 09:28 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;593824]I would say the odds of the skins losing both of the next two games is far worse than 1 in 8. people need to stop looking at the games like "fans" before you judge what really happened. Yes I hated the game, yes it aggravates me, but for the last quarter of that game the only reason I was afraid we could lose was because of the past. The skins moved the ball at will, with good plays by campbell when needed. yes the redzone looked cruddy, but we were there for 16+ plays. (good that we were there cruddy that we didn't get 7 any time) the rams had one long run and some basic plays. Detroit is not a magical team, nor is Tampa. People need to relax, look at what went right, and eat the red gummy bears![/quote]

It's hard to relax when it's "POSSIBLE" that the Rams are worse than the Lions. We are flat out lucky to have limped away from that game with the W. Losing Thomas for the season is going to REALLY hurt too. We are going into detroit to face a team that has NOTHING to lose. Keep in mind that the lions were up 10-0 on the Vikings in the 2nd, and they did manage to score 27 vs the Greg Williams led defense of the Saints. Also, keep in mind we beat Detroit by 8 last year, and the last 3 times we played the bucs in the regular season, we lost. So to say that the odds of losing both are 1 in 8 is not that far off especially considering we have had a bottom 3 offense for the past 3 seasons combined.

T.O.Killa 09-22-2009 09:29 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I if we lose our next three games Zorn is history.

Dirtbag59 09-22-2009 09:37 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
As much as I'll listen to anyone who talks trash about Zorn's playcalling this week I still say that people are blowing the Sonny interview out of proportion. If anything is was nothing more then a slight disagreement with amusing banter sprinkled in between.

ArtMonkDrillz 09-22-2009 09:44 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;593914]As much as I'll listen to anyone who talks trash about Zorn's playcalling this week I still say that people are blowing the Sonny interview out of proportion. If anything is was nothing more then a slight disagreement with amusing banter sprinkled in between.[/quote]Did you hear it or just read the transcript? They sounded pissed at each other, like Sonny was implying that the halfback pass was a terrible call and like Zorn was shocked that anyone would question him. It sounded worse than "a slight disagreement with amusing banter sprinkled in between".

T.O.Killa 09-22-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
OK, I just became a starter. Yeah!!!!!!

wilsowilso 09-22-2009 10:04 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;593922]OK, I just became a starter. Yeah!!!!!![/quote]

Now you are allowed to use your twitter to talk trash to Redskin fans.

53Fan 09-22-2009 10:43 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I'll tell you what really gets me, not that anyone asked but WTF, all the complaining about how this organization doesn't have patience and The Dan always makes so many changes, there is never any continuity or stability. We're always saying look at teams like the Steelers who change coaches every 12-20 years and build through the draft blah blah blah. Well we're building through the draft and we have a coach who is trying to bring about change and get this offense to where we all hope it can be. He's made improvements and he'll make more if we give him time. You don't use patience when things are going well, you use it when they're not. Which is it gonna be?

Lotus 09-22-2009 10:48 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=53Fan;593953]I'll tell you what really gets me, not that anyone asked but WTF, all the complaining about how this organization doesn't have patience and The Dan always makes so many changes, there is never any continuity or stability. We're always saying look at teams like the Steelers who change coaches every 12-20 years and build through the draft blah blah blah. Well we're building through the draft and we have a coach who is trying to bring about change and get this offense to where we all hope it can be. He's made improvements and he'll make more if we give him time. You don't use patience when things are going well, you use it when they're not. Which is it gonna be?[/quote]

Excellent points.

Longtimefan 09-22-2009 11:11 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;593914]As much as I'll listen to anyone who talks trash about Zorn's playcalling this week I still say that people are blowing the Sonny interview out of proportion. If anything is was nothing more then a slight disagreement with amusing banter sprinkled in between.[/quote]

Sunday's game was not the first time Zorn and Sonny exchanged barbs. Last week after the Giants game there was a simular incident with the two, so there was probably a little leftover residue.

It might not be wise for Zorn to ruffle the feathers of a Redskin icon who has an ocasional smoke with the owner.

Pocket$ $traight 09-22-2009 11:47 PM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
This is a flat out lie. That is why he makes Gibbs 2.0 look like Air Coryell. Either take some chances or quit wasting our time, Zorn.

Longtimefan 09-23-2009 12:13 AM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=53Fan;593953]I'll tell you what really gets me, not that anyone asked but WTF, all the complaining about how this organization doesn't have patience and The Dan always makes so many changes, there is never any continuity or stability. We're always saying look at teams like the Steelers who change coaches every 12-20 years and build through the draft blah blah blah. Well we're building through the draft and we have a coach who is trying to bring about change and get this offense to where we all hope it can be. He's made improvements and he'll make more if we give him time. You don't use patience when things are going well, you use it when they're not. Which is it gonna be?[/quote]

You make a good point. I've said the exact same thing on more than one ocasion, we can't have it both ways.

skins89moss 09-23-2009 01:16 AM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
[quote=53Fan;593953]I'll tell you what really gets me, not that anyone asked but WTF, all the complaining about how this organization doesn't have patience and The Dan always makes so many changes, there is never any continuity or stability. We're always saying look at teams like the Steelers who change coaches every 12-20 years and build through the draft blah blah blah. Well we're building through the draft and we have a coach who is trying to bring about change and get this offense to where we all hope it can be. He's made improvements and he'll make more if we give him time. You don't use patience when things are going well, you use it when they're not. Which is it gonna be?[/quote]

I agree with you 100% on this topic. We always having B***h as fans crying that Vinnie and Dan give away draft picks, fire coaches,pay to much for free agents. No matter what Dan Synder does people always going complain because they don't like him. Vinnie has slowly drafted some good young talent but we as fans need to give the young players time to develope b4 we just say get rid of him. You have some idiot fans talking about release Henson because of his remarks. Hey he has apologized now get over it. I was mad and frustrated as hell Sunday but this is a new week and lets wait and see how our Redskins play against the Lions. You can not expect to have success in the NFL if you have a new Head Coach every 2 to 3yrs. The Raiders have had 7 Head Coaches since 2002 win they lost in the Super Bowl. We are fans not Owners, GM, Head Coaches or Players lets give our opinons but that all it is our opinons. Our Coaches put 12 plus hours or more into their jobs to get the team ready so lets support them as much as we can. Only 1 team will when the SB and thats all that matters.

Wildcat 09-23-2009 02:10 AM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
I would think Zorn would atleast last through out this season, but with the talent in place on this teams roster, he has to make the playoffs!

Meks 09-23-2009 02:15 AM

Re: Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"
 
he needs to get his play-calling straight, and just let jason throw the ball ....

it's like trent edwards said sumthin like

" t.o one -on- one i just threw it as far as i could and he'd run under it and grab it "

thats one thing i liked about mark brunell when he was here.... when Don Bruex was calling the old fun bunch offense with gibbs when we made the play-offs...

santana moss had his career year and there were alot of down-field plays that he threw as hard as he could and LET his recievers make plays...

BECAUSE JOE TRUSTED HIM.

zorns #1 problem is lack of faith in jason and too much trying to play QB from the damn sidelines telling JC where to go, trying to force what he thinks will be open and what not...

he's OVER-COACHING the QB to go along
with his shitty bi-polar play-calling .... like damn, cuz JC would have said coach i dont think the HB option is gonna work i hadda call timeout the D didnt look right I'm really feelin a fade to malcolm .... u'd effin sit him?

get the f outta here wit dat .... let the players PLAY, thats why ur on the sidelines and since u WERE on the field, the game has changed and maybe u need to see that....

he can't call plays consistently, he has NO faith in JC, and he's gettin a big head the power of head coach is too much 4 a former QB coach.

mistake from day one. AGREED. continuity would be nice.
but in this scenario, if things dont change soon.... i seriuously will go with the thought that he just is NOT suited to be a head coach in this league.

8-8 or less........ look for some-one with experience who if is interested. fire him. right now he is not good enough.


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