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HolyLandSkinsFan 10-06-2009 12:55 PM

Punts vs. Field Goals
 
Our punter is also our holder.

I think we should leave Hunter in for the holder and let Suisham or someone else punt - not bring in a new guy.

We're talking a difference of `10-20 yards average between suisham and hunter as a punter. who says a new guy would be any better than suisham? if he were wouldn't he be on a team now?

On the other hand, with a new holder suisham could miss a game winning field goal. I think our defense can hold the extra 20 yards and since hunter should be back in a week or so - why get a new guy?

If we're backed up in our own endzone - here's an idea - call a hail marry to the 50 yard line or even the 40 and let campbell throw a strategic interception on third down. would a stat hungry safety or CB have the brains to drop the ball on purpose?

Now once we're inside their 40 just go for it on 4th down or kick a field goal if we can. so for the few fourth downs between the 30 and 50 - let suisham kick it 25 yards and trust the defense.

But lets not risk the 3 points until we're confident that our redzone problems are solved. (lets try cooley, kelly and marko on fade routes? how do you stop that?)

firstdown 10-06-2009 12:58 PM

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Why not just bring in a punter and leave Hunter active to be the holder. We have plenty of players not producing so loosing one guy for a game or two should not hurt us. Do we even no how bad Hunter is hurt?

GTripp0012 10-06-2009 01:00 PM

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See: we can debate punters.

I'm not sure if I agree. One of our biggest issues on last year's team was an awful punting team. If we went with Suisham, we'd be conceding at least that much. Holders are important though, much moreso than long snappers, IMO.

Thing is, if we can find a suitable replacement, it's worth the roster spot. If we can't, we're wasting valuable roster space. So as long as Vinny/Zorn see none-of the above as a possible answer, I think it's a no-lose situation

bigmarley4 10-06-2009 01:08 PM

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[quote=firstdown;603361]Why not just bring in a punter and leave Hunter active to be the holder. We have plenty of players not producing so loosing one guy for a game or two should not hurt us. Do we even no how bad Hunter is hurt?[/quote]

I concur. Don't want something f_ed up on an important FG attempt, and lord knows with the Skins a FG will be all the difference.

SmootSmack 10-06-2009 01:10 PM

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My understanding is that Hunter Smith will be active this Sunday as a holder

ArtMonkDrillz 10-06-2009 01:52 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;603375]My understanding is that Hunter Smith will be active this Sunday as a holder[/quote]I was just about to type the same thing, only with more style and gusto.

FRPLG 10-06-2009 01:53 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;603405]I was just about to type the same thing, only with more style and gusto.[/quote]

Go for it. I'd like to see your effort.

freddyg12 10-06-2009 02:17 PM

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we've got to sign a punter, even if he only plays this week. with this team's scoring problems, can't afford to give up 10-15 yards every punt.

I expect to see alrdige cut to make room

MTK 10-06-2009 02:25 PM

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Suisham did an admirable job filling in but you can't let him continue to punt. Field position is huge especially for a team struggling to score.

SmootSmack 10-06-2009 02:28 PM

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It kind of sucks that we have to use up two roster spots this weekend for a punter and holder

53Fan 10-06-2009 02:31 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;603375]My understanding is that Hunter Smith will be active this Sunday as a holder[/quote]

That is my understanding. Hunter will continue holding whether we sign a punter or not.

hail_2_da_skins 10-06-2009 02:33 PM

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The Skins have to sign a punter. Preferably a veteran free agent. As close as the Redskin games are, field position is crucial. I understand Zorn's concern of breaking up the field goal combination. In that case, keep Hunter on the active roster and deactivate a non contributor.

hail_2_da_skins 10-06-2009 02:36 PM

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I really don't like seeing Suisham punting. What if he pulls a groin and takes a big hit while punting. Placekicking is much more important than punting.

Stacks42 10-06-2009 02:38 PM

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can we sign another RB i think we are down to 5 at this point, but we will have 2 punters and 2 reserve offensive lineman

hail_2_da_skins 10-06-2009 02:44 PM

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[quote=Stacks42;603424]can we sign another RB i think we are down to 5 at this point, but we will have 2 punters and 2 reserve offensive lineman[/quote]
You can never have too many punters. Man...the punter leads our team in touchdowns scored.:)

hooskins 10-06-2009 02:46 PM

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Punts vs. Field Goals. I give the narrow win to Punts, but its been really close this year.

Man I am the OP's worst nightmare, lol.

Monkeydad 10-06-2009 02:47 PM

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I heard Zorn this morning on CSN saying he'll be bringing in punters this week in case Smith's treatmeants do not go well.

He ALSO said whether he punts or not, Hunter will remain the holder since he and Suisham have a good thing going this season.

Suisham seems to be a lot better since Hunter took over holding, it's amazing.

firstdown 10-06-2009 02:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;603417]It kind of sucks that we have to use up two roster spots this weekend for a punter and holder[/quote]
Really, you cannot think of one player that we could sit for a game and not miss their production? For some reason I looked up hunters ranking and he is ranked 31st in the NFL but I'm not sure how they rank punters. We will be the first team to look at a punter and instead of punting we will have them run the 40.

SmootSmack 10-06-2009 04:36 PM

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Pakulak signed to the practice squad

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/glennpakulak/profile?id=PAK652601]Glenn Pakulak[/url]

Don't have any link. It's interesting that he was signed to the practice squad (if I heard right) because that would make ineligible to play on Sunday

KLHJ2 10-06-2009 04:49 PM

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Actually Hunter is Ranked with the 20th Average and the 12th Net average. Net Average is the one you really care about. He is tied for 18th for punts inside the 20 with 5 of them.

Interestingly the Skins have only punted 15 times this season. (One of the lowest in the league).

hooskins 10-06-2009 04:58 PM

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Yeah, I think it wouldnt be a good think if we ranked higher for punts inside the 20. Means our offense is giving the ball up a lot.

Seems like we aren't; we just aren't scoring.

SmootSmack 10-06-2009 05:05 PM

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I can think of at least twice that guys (Westbrook week one against the Giants is one example) whiffed on the ball and it rolled into the end zone. Hunter can only do so much

firstdown 10-06-2009 05:19 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;603477]Pakulak signed to the practice squad

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/glennpakulak/profile?id=PAK652601"]Glenn Pakulak[/URL]

Don't have any link. It's interesting that he was signed to the practice squad (if I heard right) because that would make ineligible to play on Sunday[/quote]

I heard they did not have him punt but instead he ran the 40.

JLee9718 10-06-2009 05:22 PM

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The Skins aren't going to use Alridge so cut him to make room for a new punter.

SmootSmack 10-06-2009 05:30 PM

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[quote=JLee9718;603501]The Skins aren't going to use Alridge so cut him to make room for a new punter.[/quote]

Trent Shelton was cut

Zerohero 10-06-2009 05:33 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;603417]It kind of sucks that we have to use up two roster spots this weekend for a punter and holder[/quote]

Well we waste spots on rb's and wr's that should play but don't. No harm in using an extra spot for someone who actually plays.

tryfuhl 10-06-2009 07:23 PM

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ummm 10-20 yds diff avg in punting is HUGE

5-10 also is

SmootSmack 10-09-2009 01:41 PM

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Pakulak will punt and hold this Sunday, Hunter will be inactive

hooskins 10-09-2009 01:47 PM

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Noooo

htownskinfan 10-09-2009 01:53 PM

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;603429]You can never have too many punters. Man...the punter leads our team in touchdowns scored.:)[/quote]
:lol:

CRedskinsRule 10-09-2009 02:37 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;604674]Pakulak will punt and hold this Sunday, Hunter will be inactive[/quote]

and Suisham just missed from the 31

SmootSmack 10-09-2009 03:27 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;604704]and Suisham just missed from the 31[/quote]

Hah!...seriously though, Pakulak is a beast holder. Only Hunter is better

JLee9718 10-12-2009 02:59 PM

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Hunter couldn't punt so he played on the O-Line! Seriously, it'll be interesting to hear Vinny's radio show this week. Maybe that other "set of eyes" he hired is for watching his back to see if (and when) Snyder is coming with an axe.


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