Your next QB for the Skins?
 

OK, we all know this season is a bust, and most of us know that while Campbell is NOT the #1 problem, he is indeed a problem and needs to be replaced. If you don't feel he should be replaced, feel free to move beyond this thread...for those that do know he needs to be replaced, who would you replace him with.
Of course we would all love to have Peyton Manning, but there aren't enough first round picks in the world that could pry him away from Indy.

So who will be your poison?

Clausen?
Bradford?
Tebow?
How bout a current NFL qb in a poor situation like Marc Bulger? Brady Quinn, JaMarcus Russell, Jeff Garcia, and numerous others will be available, or at least available with minimal force.

(mods, feel free to post a poll)

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Peyton Manning :)

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[quote=jsarno;617246]OK, we all know this season is a bust, and most of us know that while Campbell is NOT the #1 problem, he is indeed a problem and needs to be replaced. If you don't feel he should be replaced, feel free to move beyond this thread...for those that do know he needs to be replaced, who would you replace him with.
Of course we would all love to have Peyton Manning, but there aren't enough first round picks in the world that could pry him away from Indy.

So who will be your poison?

Clausen?
Bradford?
Tebow?
How bout a current NFL qb in a poor situation like Marc Bulger? Brady Quinn, JaMarcus Russell, Jeff Garcia, and numerous others will be available, or at least available with minimal force.

(mods, feel free to post a poll)[/quote]

Why go out to get someone new if we have Colt Brennan on the roster? Give him a shot. He can make all the throws ( running the Run n Shoot in college). But right now let JC play, if JC had an Average O-line we would be a much better team.

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Bring back schrader!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bradford if his stock falls far enough. would should try CB5

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Depends on what we do at Gm and Coach.

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I would take Steve fn DeBerg right now.

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Definitely not JaMarcus Russell and Jeff Garcia is getting too old (would just be another Mark Brunell situation for us.)

I definitely feel the best way to go is to get a good veteran QB (Maybe let Collins start if he decides to play again next year) so that whoever we draft isn't thrown in the fire. I realize guys like Ben R or Matt Ryan were good right out of the gate, but that is something you would normally not expect. Maybe even that first year under a new GM (I sure hope so) and coach, we don't go after a QB, but go after rebuilding the offensive line first. We get a decent vet QB that first year (Gibbs had it right even though some didn't like Brunell) and draft someone out of college next season. Of course, if one of the high profile QBs are available in next year's draft, you go ahead and get them, but if not, you definitely work on the OL firstly.

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[quote=jsarno;617246]So who will be your poison?

Clausen?
Bradford?
Tebow?
How bout a current NFL qb in a poor situation like Marc Bulger? Brady Quinn, [B]JaMarcus Russell[/B], Jeff Garcia, and numerous others will be available, or at least available with minimal force.

(mods, feel free to post a poll)[/quote]
Oh no, tell me you did not say JaMarcus Russell!?!?

Jason Campbell, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, not to mention my grandmother are all Hall-of-Famers compared to Russell.

What a bag of crap he is on the field.

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Just say no to Tebow.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If we were to stick with the WCO, then I would sign a veteran QB that knows the WCO. I would draft another QB in the second or third round that I think would be a fit for the WCO and begin to groom him. Whatever veteran that we signed would battle Colt Brennan for the starting position. The drafted guy would get a full 3 years to learn the WCO before he even gets a chance to compete for the starting job.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If we are going to start over from scratch on offense then I am going to use my second pick in the draft for a QB if I have multiple first round selections. If I only have one first round pick, then I will wait until year two to use my first rounder on a QB. From day one the first round draft pick QB will be the starter.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]In both of these scenarios I use the majority of the early picks to focus on the offensive line.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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Depending on who the coach is, there's a chance JC stays. Just saying.

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[quote=Mattyk72;617284]Depending on who the coach is, there's a chance JC stays. Just saying.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]You know, earlier this season I thought that he could be the guy and he could get it done, but I am just not seeing it. Maybe I'm listening too much to Charlie Casserly or the MNF crew, but JC just doesn't pull the trigger. Pardon the pun, but I would rather be in the foxhole with the guy that accidentally commits fratricide trying to take out the enemy than with the guy who is afraid to pull the trigger at all and gets us all killed.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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Let's make this a more specific thing...

Everybody throw out a name for Game 1 starter in 2010...


I say... Sam Bradford.

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You know JC should definitely not stay. Among many mistakes in decision-making, he ran in front of his blocker, Heyer, right into a sack. I don't think I've ever seen a quarterback like Campbell that creates so many mistakes FOR HIMSELF (and as a result for the redskins team). Instead of raising the level of play of his teammates, he lowers them.

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[quote=Angry;617289][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]You know, earlier this season I thought that he could be the guy and he could get it done, but I am just not seeing it. Maybe I'm listening too much to Charlie Casserly or the MNF crew, but JC just doesn't pull the trigger. Pardon the pun, but I would rather be in the foxhole with the guy that accidentally commits fratricide trying to take out the enemy than with the guy who is afraid to pull the trigger at all and gets us both killed.[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

Ultimately it's going to come down to what the next HC thinks though. He still has those qualities that coaches drool over, big arm, he's big and mobile... you could almost hear Gruden sizing him up last night. And with the egos that coaches typically have (I can make this kid something) I just wouldn't rule it out.

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I say go sign Garcia to a 2 year deal why we build the olines. Then we go after Matt Barkley in 2012

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How about Mark Brunell?

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[quote=Mattyk72;617295]Ultimately it's going to come down to what the next HC thinks though. He still has those qualities that coaches drool over, big arm, he's big and mobile... you could almost hear Gruden sizing him up last night. And with the egos that coaches typically have (I can make this kid something) I just wouldn't rule it out.[/quote]

I was picking that up from Gruden as well, but it is so hard to change one who is timid.

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Like I said in the other QB thread, you might as well ask, "What punching bag do you put behind the Redskins's Maginot line?" Insert any ole asshole and you'll have guys defending him on this board. "Why he's the best thing since sliced bread. Yes Sire, he going to take us to the Superbowl". It's more like, toilet bowl.

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[quote=Green1;617260]Why go out to get someone new if we have Colt Brennan on the roster? Give him a shot. He can make all the throws ( running the Run n Shoot in college). But right now let JC play, if JC had an Average O-line we would be a much better team.[/quote]



Sorry to say you are seriously misguided, he had plays and did not make them(obvious miss with the santana miss for deep ball after pump fake) JC scared and the anouncers were right he is looking for A WAY OUT AND NOT DOWN THE FIELD, AGAIN AND AGAIN, SO STOP WITH THE SUPPORT FOR JC AND LETS MOVE ON AND START A NEW QB. (CHASE DANIELS).

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A college quarterback that I heard Gruden likes a lot is Tebow. Tebow is probably the anti-Campbell in his nfl skills and leadership. But Tebow would be a terrible fit for the redskins because he would probably be too reliant on his running ability.

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Since I want to rebuild the o-line first, I would bring in Jeff Garcia and battle it with CB5 for a starting QB while we use the 2010 draft to rebuild the o-line exclusively.

If we had 2 1st picks then I would consider drafting a QB (possibly Bradford/McCoy) with one of those picks.

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whoever said sign garcia to a 2 year deal and go after barkley in two years has the best Idea...good QB's are going to be coming out every year like it or not...you can't fall in love with any ONE but we desperately need O LINE help. We need to be spending our first rounder on a stud left tackle...then another CENTER that knows how to snap...and we need a right tackle and a right guard...so basically our next two years we have our first 2 rounds slated for OLINE! Then we can think about a QB...maybe try a project in round 4 of this years draft...you know...sense we gave up our 3rd rounder for a guy who plays about 5 snaps a game in Jeremy Jarmon...who has "tons of upside". I'm tired of drafting guys with upside...why can't we get playmakers at day one.

Look at the Ravens...they have drafted OLINE heavily in the first rounds for what...the past five years...and look at how productive they are know. You have to deal with a few years with a shitty QB to build up an oline that's going to dominate...then any QB can succeed...even jason campbell. Although I don't feel JC is the answer...at least in this offensive scheme. and neither is CB for that matter...but man Barkley is looking like the next brady and manning to me.

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[quote=tootergray34;617321]whoever said sign garcia to a 2 year deal and go after barkley in two years has the best Idea...good QB's are going to be coming out every year like it or not...you can't fall in love with any ONE but we desperately need O LINE help. We need to be spending our first rounder on a stud left tackle...then another CENTER that knows how to snap...and we need a right tackle and a right guard...so basically our next two years we have our first 2 rounds slated for OLINE! Then we can think about a QB...maybe try a project in round 4 of this years draft...you know...sense we gave up our 3rd rounder for a guy who plays about 5 snaps a game in Jeremy Jarmon...who has "tons of upside". I'm tired of drafting guys with upside...why can't we get playmakers at day one.

Look at the Ravens...they have drafted OLINE heavily in the first rounds for what...the past five years...and look at how productive they are know. You have to deal with a few years with a shitty QB to build up an oline that's going to dominate...then any QB can succeed...even jason campbell. Although I don't feel JC is the answer...at least in this offensive scheme. and neither is CB for that matter...but man Barkley is looking like the next brady and manning to me.[/quote]

You could always trade for Matt Lienhart

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I think JC is ready for a change, as are the Skins.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;617329]I think JC is ready for a change, as are the Skins.[/quote]

So am I.

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i've never been a big fan of lefty QB's, and as much as people hate to hear it...and not to mention how boring it is...we need to draft young OLineman and start a youth movement in DC...too many overpaid veterans that don't have a drive to win is what's ruining this team. Just my honest opinion there.

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[quote=tootergray34;617321]whoever said sign garcia to a 2 year deal and go after barkley in two years has the best Idea...good QB's are going to be coming out every year like it or not...you can't fall in love with any ONE but we desperately need O LINE help. We need to be spending our first rounder on a stud left tackle...then another CENTER that knows how to snap...and we need a right tackle and a right guard...so basically our next two years we have our first 2 rounds slated for OLINE! Then we can think about a QB...maybe try a project in round 4 of this years draft...you know...sense we gave up our 3rd rounder for a guy who plays about 5 snaps a game in Jeremy Jarmon...who has "tons of upside". I'm tired of drafting guys with upside...why can't we get playmakers at day one.

Look at the Ravens...they have drafted OLINE heavily in the first rounds for what...the past five years...and look at how productive they are know. You have to deal with a few years with a shitty QB to build up an oline that's going to dominate...then any QB can succeed...even jason campbell. Although I don't feel JC is the answer...at least in this offensive scheme. and neither is CB for that matter...but man Barkley is looking like the next brady and manning to me.[/quote]

Jarmon is going to be a star

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Well I got crucified last night for saying Sam Bradford by some IDIOTS on this forum.. But I'm sticking with him because he will be a Star from day 1.

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Tony Pike.

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I agree with MattyK -- I think there's a possibility we're stuck with Jason Campbell next year.

Think about it - we can only have one first round pick (unless we trade for more). What would a great QB going do with our crappy O-line? Even Peyton and Brady suck when their lines break down. It may be better to sign JC for a one year extension (who else would sign him) and draft a good LT first round. Then we need a RT, C, RB. We may also need an OLB, DT, RG, MLB. There are just too many holes -- and I think JC will never take us anywhere, but he's decent enough to combat for one more year. Our offensive line is a MUCH bigger priority.

You fix the line and we may suddenly have an offense. Maybe Portis will get positive yards if he gets actually gets blocks.

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Campbell is going to be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns in 2010... mark my words now.

a.) Why would he WANT to resign with us?
b.) SOMEBODY (Cleveland, Carolina, Oakland, etc.) will still see his potential as a starter.

He will sign somewhere else and get as far from this freak show as possible. You think, after what Snyder put him through last offseason he'd pick us over someone else??

Matter of fact... do think Snyder would allow Campbell to be our QB next year??

It is obvious... Campbell will NOT be a Redskin in fall 2010.

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Again, if there's no cap next year potential free agents won't become free agents until 2011.

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max hall runs a west coast offense at byu. late round qb to groom perhaps. otherwise lefevour from cmu for a late rounder.

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To tell you the truth, and in my mind, this scenario is VERY possible, if the Front office is serious about getting better and wiping the slate clean, here is what I think we should do, as of now. Now everything in CFB changes day to day and week to week considering injuries, but barring injuries and complete meltdowns, I say these moves would instantly make us a MUCH better squad, especially with our defense and a dedicated new Head Coach.

Ok, we need to trade away ARE, Campbell, Portis and Betts. Somewhere in there, lets get another 2nd round pick, maybe 2 if we are lucky.

1st round - Get THE BEST offensive lineman available. It definitely looks like we are in the market for a top 8 pick, so I would go with 1 of 2 guys that look absolutely incredible and could contribute in a big way from day 1. Okung from Ok. State, or Brown out of USC. Both are great OL and both can play multiple positions, which I think will be big with our line for a year or two to come. Remember, these selections are with the assumption we have 2 2nd round picks.

first 2nd round pick - Tony Pike QB, Cincy If we can pack about 15 - 20 lbs onto his 6'5'' frame, with his vision and arm, aaron rodgers anyone?? HUGE UPGRADE WITH PRO BOWLER POTENTIAL.

2nd 2nd rounder - Best Offensive lineman available. If Chris Samuels comes back, I say go with a good talent at guard like Asamoah or Capers.

Keep our current Center, Levi Jones, and Dockery. Sign the VERY best tackle you can in the offseason (easy, especially if its uncapped and we got our ATM at the helm) and cut all of the others, or trade em and pick up some later round picks this year or next. The team needs youth in a big way.

Next step - Let Joe Bugel go. Let him resign with class, but we need a new guy to come and fill in that role. Preferably an ex redskin that can instill some pride along our once PROUD OLine. Let them all compete for starting roles, and then BAMM, set your roster before the last 2 preseason games. give em three weeks to know whos gonna be at their 9 and 3 oclocks, and hope for them to come together as a unit quick. Thats asking for alot, but doable, and almost anything we do will be better than this years sad sad mess, plus we'll have youth to build upon and a very promising franchise QB in Pike.


Also, with our 4th or 5th rounder, I bet we could steal someone that I really like thats been flying under the radar this season that is a BEAST and could kick some major ass in the NFL. And that guy is Chris Scott out of Tennesee. Remember that name. We could easily get him in the 4th round, no problem. Guy is very quick on his feet, and already has incredible strength. (348 lbs last week).

Go Skins

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Are you saying they'll be stuck with their current teams?

Even if so, I'd be shocked if Campbell wasn't traded in the offseason. The Browns wanted him and Cooley for their draft pick earlier this year. Add in Carolina, Oakland, Tennessee... someone I think would make a move for him and I think Snyder would jump on it.

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Tony Pike and Colt McCoy are both very good prospects who might get dwarfed by some of the bigger names in the draft. In a deeper draft, it is usually better to wait on quarterbacks. Point in case: anyone could have had Vince Young had they been willing to give up two first rounders to move up ahead of the Titans in 2006.

He could have been yours!

Instead, teams that waited were stuck with Jay Cutler and Matt Leinart.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;617360]Even if so, I'd be shocked if Campbell wasn't traded in the offseason. The Browns wanted him and Cooley for their draft pick earlier this year. Add in Carolina, Oakland, Tennessee... someone I think would make a move for him and I think Snyder would jump on it.[/quote]Are you citing that silly Bleacher Report article?

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;617329]I think JC is ready for a change, as are the Skins.[/quote]

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I think he probably is too and I do not blame him.