Greg Blache: Stop the Snyder Bashing
 

Looks like our DC is sick of the relentless owner-bashing. I still think it's fun.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4626258]Greg Blache, Washington Redskins defensive coordinator says enough Snyder bashing - ESPN[/url]

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Haha, I can't imagine who is worst: Al Davis or Dan Snyder.

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I guess I can understand his position. But I also noticed that not once did he defend any criticism against VC, didn't even mention him. I think that absence alone speaks volumes.

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So what are the chances we get a whole bunch of out of context quotes on this article from Redskins Insider? I found a few:

"There is nobody that wants to win here" and "everything that is wrong with this organization is...Dan Snyder."

:lol:

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I said this in another thread but Riggo did cross a line. Blache is right on here.

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'Enough is enough'!
Really? How about 10 years of mismanagement? Eight years ov Vinny Ceratto.
When is 'enough is enough' with the Snyderatto style of running a franchcise?

I guess Blache is throwing his name in the 2010 HC position when Zorn gets fired...by kissing some ass. Someone needs to remind Blache he has only been here a few years and he has not earned the right to run his mouth on this subject. Nobody is accusing Snyder of being a miser. Yes he gives some of his millions he earns off the Redskins and their fans to charity. That does not make him a good Football operations guy.
Blache is just stirring the shit storm again.

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[quote=Defensewins;620833]'Enough is enough'!
Really? How about 10 years of mismanagement? Eight years ov Vinny Ceratto.
When is 'enough is enough' with the Snyderatto style of running a franchcise?

[B]I guess Blache is throwing his name in the 2010 HC position when Zorn gets fired...by kissing some ass[/B]. Someone needs to remind Blache he has only been here a few years and he has not earned the right to run his mouth on this subject. Nobody is accusing Snyder of being a miser. Yes he gives some of his millions he earns off the Redskins and their fans to charity. That does not make him a good Football operations guy.
Blache is just stirring the shit storm again.[/quote]

Name in for HC..? Not hardly. I bet he can't wait to go hunting and fishing 24/7 and get the hell outta DC. This is his last season.

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Good for Blache. Riggo crossed a line that should not have been crossed. I'm no great fan of DS but I'm glad that someone spoke up.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;620839]Name in for HC..? Not hardly. I bet he can't wait to go hunting and fishing 24/7 and get the hell outta DC. This is his last season.[/quote]

I didn't know you and Blache were so tight?
So he told you he was leaving after this season?

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Yeah, i highly doubt blache wants anything more than to just go back into retirement and use that shotgun of his inscribed by the DS.

with that being said, joe gibbs pushed for greg blache and is probably in the DS's eyes a faction of joe gibbs whom he honestly does seem to look up to.

and im sure the DS took greg and his wife to nice dinners, probably over to the DS mansion in potomac and other courtship niceties in hopes to bring him on board.

so of course to greg the DS is a nice, generous man. the DS respects and honors greg blache b/c he is a figment of joe gibbs whom he idolizes.

imo the DS had to win over greg blache. and he does that by being the nicest most humble billionaire greg balche (or any other target of the DS) has ever met.

unlike jim zorn, whose honeymoon of being treated with respect and humility is over, greg blache gets an unlimited amount of the "nicest most humble billionaire" persona of the DS b/c of his ties to joe gibbs. (edit - and he's doing a decent job of bend dont break defense).

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Riggo just sais some stupid things. He did on his radio show and he continues to do so. He's just "out there" a little. I don't even pay attention to what he sais half the time and i didn't on his Snyder bash.

I like what Blache said. It's has gotten a little overboard lately. DS isn't the devil and he's not Mother Theresa either. He wants to win and he wants to make money.

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[quote=Defensewins;620833]'Enough is enough'!
Really? How about 10 years of mismanagement? Eight years ov Vinny Ceratto.
When is 'enough is enough' with the Snyderatto style of running a franchcise?

I guess Blache is throwing his name in the 2010 HC position when Zorn gets fired...by kissing some ass. Someone needs to remind Blache he has only been here a few years and he has not earned the right to run his mouth on this subject. Nobody is accusing Snyder of being a miser. Yes he gives some of his millions he earns off the Redskins and their fans to charity. That does not make him a good Football operations guy.
Blache is just stirring the shit storm again.[/quote]

Well if you actually read what he said he was commenting on DS as a person not as an owner.

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[quote=Defensewins;620833]'Enough is enough'!
Really? How about 10 years of mismanagement? Eight years ov Vinny Ceratto.
When is 'enough is enough' with the Snyderatto style of running a franchcise?

I guess Blache is throwing his name in the 2010 HC position when Zorn gets fired...by kissing some ass. Someone needs to remind Blache he has only been here a few years and he has not earned the right to run his mouth on this subject. Nobody is accusing Snyder of being a miser. Yes he gives some of his millions he earns off the Redskins and their fans to charity. That does not make him a good Football operations guy.
Blache is just stirring the shit storm again.[/quote]

Nobody is denying what you are saying when it comes to Snyder and football related matters. But Riggo is taking things to a personal level and that's over the line.

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Eff Greg Blache...

If he had to make special circumstances to not talk to the media then DON"T TALK TO THE MEDIA!

No one wants to hear what your old ass has to say anyway. His opinion on Dan Snyder is just as biased as someone who hates him...Riggo in this case.

What Blache said makes no sense and it's certainly strange to see him pipe up after having to file with the league so he could not speak. People are entitled to their opinions of what they think of the owner and Danny will soon come to the realization that you can't buy EVERYONE's opinions or good graces.


What it boils down to is this...One is not known by their words, but rather for their deeds. Whatever deeds that Snyder has transgressed within the past 10 years of his ownership seem to be rearing its head right now.

If he doesn't want to be accountable, ON AND OFF THE FIELD, then step back and bring in a GM that has FULL AUTHORITY & ACCOUNTABILITY.

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If he's speaking from a fan standpoint I would say that's easy for him to say. He does not have to travel out of state, neither does he have to pay to attend the games. The man is paying him, what more would you expect him to say, if he says anything at all? He and Bugel walk with their arm around Snyder's shoulder. Come on Mannnnn.

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Good move by Blache, he is the only m-fer who stand up around for what he believes. I like it.

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Yeah, I can't complain about that. I really like when someone really stands up. I don't see anyone did that for the Raiders.

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[quote=Defensewins;620833]'Enough is enough'!
Really? How about 10 years of mismanagement? Eight years ov Vinny Ceratto.
When is 'enough is enough' with the Snyderatto style of running a franchcise?

I guess Blache is throwing his name in the 2010 HC position when Zorn gets fired...by kissing some ass. [B]Someone needs to remind Blache he has only been here a few years and he has not earned the right to run his mouth on this subject.[/B] Nobody is accusing Snyder of being a miser. Yes he gives some of his millions he earns off the Redskins and their fans to charity. That does not make him a good Football operations guy.
Blache is just stirring the shit storm again.[/quote]

Blache has been here since 04. He has more than earned the right to say anything he wants.

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Blache: collects a paycheck with Snyder's signature
Me: does not

but blache was right in his assessments of the way that Riggo handled it, me thinks Riggo just needed to make himself seen

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If I hadn't had a few beers, I would type Blache is a douche.

His defense can't stop so many 0- and teams it's pathetic.

But I've had a few, so I won't say it.

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Riggo is a prima dona who does and says outlandish things. Some of the things he says are true. Some of it is just Riggo being full of shit.

I couldn't care less what anyone, including Blache, has to say at Redskins park.

No one cares what losers have to say.

I heard Blache on the radio today getting mad and running his mouth.

Talk is cheap.

Show me something on the football field. Until then, STFU and take it like a man.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;620850]Eff Greg Blache...

If he had to make special circumstances to not talk to the media then DON"T TALK TO THE MEDIA!

No one wants to hear what your old ass has to say anyway. His opinion on Dan Snyder is just as biased as someone who hates him...Riggo in this case.

What Blache said makes no sense and it's certainly strange to see him pipe up after having to file with the league so he could not speak. People are entitled to their opinions of what they think of the owner and Danny will soon come to the realization that you can't buy EVERYONE's opinions or good graces.


What it boils down to is this...One is not known by their words, but rather for their deeds. Whatever deeds that Snyder has transgressed within the past 10 years of his ownership seem to be rearing its head right now.

If he doesn't want to be accountable, ON AND OFF THE FIELD, then step back and bring in a GM that has FULL AUTHORITY & ACCOUNTABILITY.[/quote]

So you value the opinion of someone who hasnt spent a day of his life with DS as opposed to someones who's spent the larger part of 4 years with him?

I do want to know what his old ass has to say because the other old ass (redskins legend or not) took it way too far.

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I dont freaking care what Snyder's intentions are. I dont care if he is nice or mean, but freaking win. And to win, change your ways. Period.

I am so upset that he still doesn't get it. A freaking apology does nothing IMO. His motives do nothing, his will does nothing, his kindness means jack shit. Make a change to the way you run OUR skins. I would love for him to come out and say he is gonna do that. He never will. But actions speak for themselves. All we can do is hope.

As the great DMX once said, "talk is cheap, mutha f*&ka"

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[quote=GreekSkin;620951]So you value the opinion of someone who hasnt spent a day of his life with DS as opposed to someones who's spent the larger part of 4 years with him?

I do want to know what his old ass has to say because the other old ass (redskins legend or not) took it way too far.[/quote]

I could care less what any of them think or say.

All I hear is a bunch of losers yapping.

Talk is cheap!

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I guess we're back to debating whether lil D is a "good guy." I mean why does it matter? Really? He could be the nicest guy in the whole world and it doesn't change the fact his ownership of the Skins is a failure from every perspective apart from the business side.

...on the other hand it is [I]very[/I] strange IMO for Blache, who's basically said he doesn't want to spar w/ the media any longer, to come out praising lil D in the midst of his campaign of repression against disgruntled fans. One week Snyder sues the pants off of ticket-holders, bars the media from talking to fans at the game, and shamefully bans all signs and anti-ownership t-shirts...the very next week a coach starts talking him up as a real swell guy? I guess at this point I'm sorta speechless. I don't understand why people are still giving Snyder their money...seems masochistic.

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Crap maybe we're about to turn Snyder into a martyr, like Zorn. To be honest I kind of want Snyder to stay. Getting someone who's willing to spend top dollar is rare in sports. The guy I just want to get rid of is Cerrato.

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[quote=Defensewins;620833]'Enough is enough'!
Really? How about 10 years of mismanagement? Eight years ov Vinny Ceratto.
When is 'enough is enough' with the Snyderatto style of running a franchcise?

I guess Blache is throwing his name in the 2010 HC position when Zorn gets fired...by kissing some ass. Someone needs to remind Blache he has only been here a few years and he has not earned the right to run his mouth on this subject. Nobody is accusing Snyder of being a miser. Yes he gives some of his millions he earns off the Redskins and their fans to charity. That does not make him a good Football operations guy.
Blache is just stirring the shit storm again.[/quote]

Exactly!! Blache just wants to suck up to Snyder to have something going for him other than his resume when he goes for Zorn's job in January. If I was on the Skins coaching staff I would keep my mouth shut and get to work on trying to right the ship we have now.

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[quote=The Goat;620958]I guess we're back to debating whether lil D is a "good guy." I mean why does it matter? Really? He could be the nicest guy in the whole world and it doesn't change the fact his ownership of the Skins is a failure from every perspective apart from the business side.

...on the other hand it is [I]very[/I] strange IMO for Blache, who's basically said he doesn't want to spar w/ the media any longer, to come out praising lil D in the midst of his campaign of repression against disgruntled fans. One week Snyder sues the pants off of ticket-holders, bars the media from talking to fans at the game, and shamefully bans all signs and anti-ownership t-shirts...the very next week a coach starts talking him up as a real swell guy? I guess at this point I'm sorta speechless. I don't understand why people are still giving Snyder their money...seems masochistic.[/quote]

Why are people still giving Danny their money? They are morons who don't have anything more contructive to do with their time obviously. Blache is trying to get in good with Mr. Snyder to have an edge come the day Zorny is let go.

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[quote=GreekSkin;620951]So you value the opinion of someone who hasnt spent a day of his life with DS as opposed to someones who's spent the larger part of 4 years with him?

I do want to know what his old ass has to say because the other old ass (redskins legend or not) took it way too far.[/quote]

...And I guess you are valuing the opinion of someone who has their checks signed by the person in question.

Riggo hasn't taken it too far. What he said is his personal estimation of Dan Snyder's character. No matter what he says it can't be wrong...it's his opinion.

Now you have to decide whether his estimation is credible or not.

I personally think he has an axe to grind but I also think that he has had plenty of interaction with Snyder and the organization to come up with a snapshot assesment of Snyder's character.

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Greg keeps it real and thats what you need in an Organization like the redskins.

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[quote=jgalecpa;620948]If I hadn't had a few beers, I would type Blache is a douche.

His defense can't stop so many 0- and teams it's pathetic.

But I've had a few, so I won't say it.[/quote]

Dude your a Fuckin idiot... Go drink your beers and stop talking football because you make no sense! Our D is ranked 5th you dumbass, it's our sad ass offense that hurts our D..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;620972]Greg keeps it real and thats what you need in an Organization like the redskins.[/quote]


Yeah...really dumb.

He should have kept that dirty sock in his mouth. We'll see how real Blache keeps it when he takes over the Bingo calling duties for Sherman Lewis at the retirement home next year.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;620973]Dude your a Fuckin idiot... Go drink your beers and stop talking football because you make no sense! Our D is ranked 5th you dumbass, it's our sad ass offense that hurts our D..[/quote]

Overreact much?

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LOL Yea well in all fairness BLACHE has done a good job since coming to us in 04

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[quote=The Goat;620982]Overreact much?[/quote]

lol dude it's just irritating seeing ppl just talk dumb shit... I really am tired of this bashing shit also, DS gave Zorn a chance and it hasn't wrked out.. And VC will be gone with him

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I wonder if Blache truly perceives that all the hatred toward Snyder is because the public thinks he's not a nice guy. I can't imagine he is that naive.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;620985]lol dude it's just irritating seeing ppl just talk dumb shit... I really am tired of this bashing shit also, DS gave Zorn a chance and it hasn't wrked out.. And VC will be gone with him[/quote]

If Blache kept it real, where was he when his head coach was unconsentingly getting his playcalling duties stripped from him?

Think of Zorn what you will but he's still the head coach of this team. Blache didn't go to bat to for Zorn at all during his hardship. Now that he's sticking up for the owner of the team he's some kind of valiant leader...pffft...I'm not falling for that.


Actions speak louder than words. Every sign or shirt that is secured by stadium authorities writes a book on Snyder's character, whereas Blache's accounts of him only says a mouthful.

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Good to hear Mr. Snyder is a good friend of his. I call all my good friends Mister too. I don't know why he was so worked up over the "dark heart" comment. What the hell does that even mean?

Snyder is definitely a douchebag. I heard a story of how he went back to his High School reunion and insisted that people call him Mr. Snyder, and know someone that works closely with Steve Bisciotti who said Bisciotti kicked Snyder out of his house for pulling the same stunt. Snyder asked Bisciotti to call him Mr. Snyder, and the response he got was, "Get the fuck out of here".

Snyder's not evil. He's just a weird dick.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;621004]If Blache kept it real, where was he when his head coach was unconsentingly getting his playcalling duties stripped from him?

Think of Zorn what you will but he's still the head coach of this team. Blache didn't go to bat to for Zorn at all during his hardship. Now that he's sticking up for the owner of the team he's some kind of valiant leader...pffft...I'm not falling for that.


Actions speak louder than words. Every sign or shirt that is secured by stadium authorities writes a book on Snyder's character, whereas Blache's accounts of him only says a mouthful.[/quote]

Good post. Snyder has been generous with his money as far as charities go, and that's great. But him giving a few million is like me or you giving $50. Big deal. Snyder was nice to Blache and his wife. So what?

I don't agree with Riggin's assessment that the Danny has a "dark heart." I don't think he's a bad human being. But I think he's stubborn, has a massive ego (see sign/t-shirt confiscation), and he has insisted on making football decisions for 10 years despite having zero football background/experience.

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[quote=44Deezel;621018]Good to hear Mr. Snyder is a good friend of his. I call all my good friends Mister too. I don't know why he was so worked up over the "dark heart" comment. What the hell does that even mean?

Snyder is definitely a douchebag. I heard a story of how he went back to his High School reunion and insisted that people call him Mr. Snyder, and know someone that works closely with Steve Bisciotti who said Bisciotti kicked Snyder out of his house for pulling the same stunt. Snyder asked Bisciotti to call him Mr. Snyder, and the response he got was, "Get the fuck out of here".

[B]Snyder's not evil. He's just a weird dick[/B].[/quote]

LMAO at the point in bold.

As to the Mr. Snyder thing, notice that Gibbs NEVER called him Mr. Snyder. Always just simply "Dan." Good for you, Joe. If he was in my high school class and he came to the reunion with that nonsense, I would tell him exactly where he could put his Misters.