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The Goat 11-09-2009 01:04 AM

Landry is now a bust!
 
His play has disappointed me since the beginning of the '08 campaign but what I saw today was appalling. I went back a watched the reel several times keying in on Landry.

First off I noticed Turner's long run (12:15 to go in the first quarter) when Landry finally forced him out of bounce. Laron didn't even try to lay the wood. He barely bumped Turner and looked like a complete coward. I think what is even more cowardly was the hit on Ryan. The ONLY time Landry tries to lay the wood is when someone is scrambling out of bounce. This is as pathetic as it is cheap and I sincerely the hope the league fines Landry at least several weeks of pay.

Moving onto the first Turner TD Landry took the worst angle I've seen all season (not just by him but by any defensive player). Whatever skill/talent he had at one time appears to be in full regression. And finally the second Turner TD Landry had a clear shot before Turner breaks into the open but he simply dove to the turf to avoid contact.

Landry's cowardice is an embarrassment not only to the Redskins but, in the larger picture, to the game of football. He should be benched for his lousy play notwithstanding, but for the cowardice he has no business wearing a uniform. For the sake of the game I hope he is benched for the year and quickly traded/cut in the off-season. Personally I don't think I'll be able to watch another game as long as he's on the field :(

Nomad 11-09-2009 01:13 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
i agree Landry hasn't panned out.... but he needs to go back to SS, and not the FS, where, a playermaker is needed, he's better in the box..... we need to get a player like Kam Chancellor in the 2nd round or that guy berry from tenn. would be great..... i give him one more year before i pulled the trigger.

The Goat 11-09-2009 01:19 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
LOL Landry is not a playmaker. He's the worst tackler on defense beyond Hall.

Luxorreb 11-09-2009 01:30 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
Landry played well next to Taylor, but who wouldn't? His position is not FS. We shoulda replaced him last year and put him back at SS and adding a true game changer @ FS. As a SS his speed, pursuit and pressure was used more to his ability. I don't believe Landry is a coward. Maybe a bad tackler, but unfortunately I think he finds himself outta position and off balance in too many situations. Losing Greg Williams hurt this team more than most people know...

Dirtbag59 11-09-2009 03:35 AM

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Landrys definately a lock to be a bust.....a bust in Canton HEYYO

Kalisto2010 11-09-2009 03:47 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Nomad;622563]i agree Landry hasn't panned out.... but he needs to go back to SS, and not the FS, where, a playermaker is needed, he's better in the box..... we need to get a player like Kam Chancellor in the 2nd round or that guy berry from tenn. would be great..... i give him one more year before i pulled the trigger.[/quote]

Yes, Landry needs to return to SS. We didn't draft him to play FS. But apparently some of our fans do.

dirthogs311 11-09-2009 03:58 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
could have had peterson

SFREDSKIN 11-09-2009 04:23 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
I would say more that he is immature, lacks discipline and has a huge ego and doesn't care about anyone but himself. I would trade his ass and get some much needed picks for next year, he might have the skills but lacks the attitude to make him a winner.

Dirtbag59 11-09-2009 04:35 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
You guys realize that Landry has less then 10 games, including college, at SS right? His problems boil down to a lack of discipline. As other fans have graciously pointed out, Landry has simply regressed since 2007. It has nothing to do with the position he's playing. In fact he didn't come into his own during 07 until he took over for Taylor in the second half of the season. Since then it's been slowly downhill for Landry. The playoff game against Seattle was his peak.

Luxorreb 11-09-2009 04:43 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
Blame Blache? I will. And Cerrato.

Longtimefan 11-09-2009 08:49 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Nomad;622563]i agree Landry hasn't panned out.... but he needs to go back to SS, and not the FS, where, a playermaker is needed, he's better in the box..... we need to get a player like Kam Chancellor in the 2nd round or that guy berry from tenn. would be great..... i give him one more year before i pulled the trigger.[/quote]

SS has to be able to tackle more so than a FS. Bottom line, there's no place on any defense for a player who can't tackle regardless of position, and Landry should be taken to task by his coaches in an effort to ensure his on field conduct no longer becomes an issue.

MTK 11-09-2009 08:54 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
Disappointing? Yes.

A bust? No.

I recall Taylor having some struggles in his 3rd season as he appeared to take a step back before taking a big step forward in his final season.

I would like to see Landry become a regular at Redskins Park next offseason and show some maturity and leadership. He really needs work on his angles and tackling. Overall he just needs to become more consistent and I think that has to start with himself and his dedication to the game.

SouperMeister 11-09-2009 08:58 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;622627]Disappointing? Yes.

A bust? No.

I recall Taylor having some struggles in his 3rd season as he appeared to take a step back before taking a big step forward in his final season.

I would like to see Landry become a regular at Redskins Park next offseason and show some maturity and leadership. He really needs work on his angles and tackling. Overall he just needs to become more consistent and I think that has to start with himself and his dedication to the game.[/quote]But Taylor arguably played at a Pro-Bowl level in his 1st, 2nd, and 4th seasons. Landry goes weeks without making a play. The guy is invisible. When you draft a safety in the Top 10, which is almost NEVER done, that guy must be a playmaker. Taylor was. Landry is not.

Meks 11-09-2009 08:59 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
thank you MATTY..

to GOAT. ur WAY, over-reacting bro.

take it Easy on him, there are MUCH worse safties in the league.

bust = no way.

get him back to his natural position next year PLEASE.

and u'll all love Laron again.

piss poor attempt at tackling turner angers anyone, it's a mistake, lets hope he corrects it.

that is all.

Longtimefan 11-09-2009 09:18 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;622627]Disappointing? Yes.

A bust? No.

I recall Taylor having some struggles in his 3rd season as he appeared to take a step back before taking a big step forward in his final season.

I would like to see Landry become a regular at Redskins Park next offseason and show some maturity and leadership. He really needs work on his angles and tackling. Overall he just needs to become more consistent and I think that has to start with himself and his dedication to the game.[/quote]

He does need to make himself more available during the offseason to demonstrate he's committed to the game. It's obvious Landry still has a little growing and learning to do, at present he's not living up to his lofty draft status.

Ruhskins 11-09-2009 09:29 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
It's all D. Hall's fault.

dmek25 11-09-2009 09:38 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
he doesn't understand that he is THE last line of defense. going for the big hit is great.... but if you miss, its a touchdown. just tackle, for christ sakes

rbanerjee23 11-09-2009 09:42 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
He's not a bust but he certainly hasn't panned out like he was supposed to have.

freddyg12 11-09-2009 10:43 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
See M. Bowen's comment about Landry & also listen to what Blache says about him. With his range he prevents big plays. How many times has a wr gotten behind him?

I think his tackling has always been poor but in his rookie year he would hit anybody. I think it all changed when Jacobs ran over him last year. Seems like he's protecting himself.

Overall, Landry is a great free safey in the passing game, but his tackling has become pathetic. I do agree w/yall on that. Good thing is that he'll be embarassed by it.

CantonLegend 11-09-2009 11:10 AM

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the saints will trade you for him

ST21RIP 11-09-2009 11:18 AM

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LL has not been the same Brandon Jacobs [U]TOOK HIS SOUL[/U] in last year's season opener.

To all of you who are crying that he is not playing his natural position - two things: 1) He did not play SS at LSU and 2) his embarrassing tackling abilities will only be exacerbated by playing as a SS.

LL is a selfish, immature DOG. He is an absolute detriment to this team. His despicable attitude and poor performance simply exemplifies what is wrong with this organization.

Anyone on this board who thinks LL will ever be a productive Redskin is only saying so because he/she spent $75 on LL's replica jersey. Smarten up.

He is a diva.

SFREDSKIN 11-09-2009 11:27 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=ST21RIP;622752]LL has not been the same Brandon Jacobs [U]TOOK HIS SOUL[/U] in last year's season opener.

To all of you who are crying that he is not playing his natural position - two things: 1) He did not play SS at LSU and 2) his embarrassing tackling abilities will only be exacerbated by playing as a SS.

LL is a selfish, immature DOG. He is an absolute detriment to this team. His despicable attitude and poor performance simply exemplifies what is wrong with this organization.

Anyone on this board who thinks LL will ever be a productive Redskin is only saying so because he/she spent $75 on LL's replica jersey. Smarten up.

He is a diva.[/quote]

Nice post, he should take lessons from Patrick Willis on how to be a professional.

Big C 11-09-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Nomad;622563]i agree Landry hasn't panned out.... but he needs to go back to SS, and not the FS, where, a playermaker is needed, he's better in the box..... we need to get a player like Kam Chancellor in the 2nd round or that guy berry from tenn. would be great..... i give him one more year before i pulled the trigger.[/quote]

kam chancellor? lol, hes an even worse tackler than landry! same style, always goes for the knockout but really is a poor tackler. this is coming from a tech alum...so im not biased against him. he just isnt good.

denim_monger 11-09-2009 11:29 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
I wood take laundry and put him on my bnech!!

Son Of Man 11-09-2009 11:45 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;622627]Disappointing? Yes.

A bust? No.

I recall Taylor having some struggles in his 3rd season as he appeared to take a step back before taking a big step forward in his final season.

I would like to see Landry become a regular at Redskins Park next offseason and show some maturity and leadership. He really needs work on his angles and tackling. Overall he just needs to become more consistent and I think that has to start with himself and his dedication to the game.[/quote]

Excellent post! I think this about sums it up!

skinsfan69 11-09-2009 11:52 AM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=ST21RIP;622752]LL has not been the same Brandon Jacobs [U]TOOK HIS SOUL[/U] in last year's season opener.

To all of you who are crying that he is not playing his natural position - two things: 1) He did not play SS at LSU and 2) his embarrassing tackling abilities will only be exacerbated by playing as a SS.

LL is a selfish, immature DOG. He is an absolute detriment to this team. His despicable attitude and poor performance simply exemplifies what is wrong with this organization.

Anyone on this board who thinks LL will ever be a productive Redskin is only saying so because he/she spent $75 on LL's replica jersey. Smarten up.

He is a diva.[/quote]

Pretty much sums up it up. What really made my blood boil yesterday was after Landry made a real nice play he got up, folded his arms and had the nerve to pose. Like he's god or something. You're getting your ass beat and you showboat??? WTF is wrong with some of these guys??? It's crap like that that really makes me not even like this team anymore. So after you take bad angle after bad angle, get a PF, plus you tackle like a girl...and you make ONE nice play and decide showboat? If I were Blache I'd sit this fucking pussy down for a while til he decides when and if he wants to play football.

DBUCHANON101 11-09-2009 11:58 AM

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[quote=CantonLegend;622748]the saints will trade you for him[/quote]

Ok, we'll give you Landry for Brees :)
ok ok, how bout your best OT?

Paintrain 11-09-2009 12:09 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=freddyg12;622707][B]See M. Bowen's comment about Landry & also listen to what Blache says about him. With his range he prevents big plays. How many times has a wr gotten behind him? [/B]

I think his tackling has always been poor but in his rookie year he would hit anybody. I think it all changed when Jacobs ran over him last year. Seems like he's protecting himself.

Overall, Landry is a great free safey in the passing game, but his tackling has become pathetic. I do agree w/yall on that. Good thing is that he'll be embarassed by it.[/quote]

Sorry but if you put ANYONE 30 yards off the ball at the snap then a WR shouldn't get behind him. That's a BS cop out. He's not a great safety in the passing game, Ed Reed, Darren Sharper, Troy Polumalu are great safeties in the passing game because they make plays. Landry is just out there.

He's playing out of position. Put him back at SS where he belongs. He cannot determine tackling angles from so far away and is out of control as he attacks the line of scrimmage. I've seen way too many times he's been spun around by a back making a simple cut that if he plays fast but under control he'd be able to make a play.

Simply put, he's been awful in all aspects in 2009.

TheSmurfs22 11-09-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
I do not think Landry is a bust by any means. He still has to learn to play disciplined and smarter. That will come with time. I got to admit in some ways I feel like the guy is fighting an uphill battle with some fans. A lot of expectations were put on him to be the next Sean Taylor after his death and there is no way anyone can live up to what #21 did.

12thMan 11-09-2009 12:22 PM

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What's all this "playing out of position" crap? Are you guys kidding me? He's a football player for crying out loud! You guys act like he want from being a professional bowler to playing professional football. That's playing out of position to me. This guy has been playing football all of his life. You think he lined up at LSU and said, no coach I can't play this position? Hell no! Football players tackle. They run to the ball and make plays.

By any measurement, Laron Landry isn't playing good football. Yesterday wasn't the first time either. He's been pulling this crap ALL year and part of last year. This isn't anything new for him. He's lousy. And for where we drafted him in the first round, I'd say he's a bust. At the very least a huge disappointment. No excuses for this millionaire.

Skinny Tee 11-09-2009 12:49 PM

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Redskins considering Landry at SS this week. Per WJFK The Fan.

BigHairedAristocrat 11-09-2009 01:17 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
Yeah, Zorn mentioned that in his presser. Its a shame that it took an injury to our backup SS for the team to consider playing the 5th overall pick from 2007 at the position he was drafted to play. With Smoot or Moore starting at FS, look for Landry to become a beast at SS.

The Goat 11-09-2009 01:26 PM

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Landry was playing close to the LOS on Turner's second TD run and had a clear shot to make the tackle. He didn't try for the "big hit." He didn't try to wrap up. HE DOVE AT THE TURF TO AVOID CONTACT. Please, please stop w/ this nonsense that Landry is always going for the lights out hit but just can't find his mark. He's avoiding direct. He fails at the two things he's supposed to do: stopping the big play (air or ground), and punishing anyone who gets into his territory.

...sometimes I feel like we're all watching different games. How the hell does anyone not see Landry avoiding contact? There are dozens of no-name safeties in the league who take every opportunity to lay the would and punish the opponent. They play fierce and fiery defense and when they punish their prey they just look to do it again. Landry isn't even in the same realm. Name me one play this season where Landry put the hurt on someone and got a reaction from the announcers or made you hold your breath?

Lotus 11-09-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
I think Landry's tackling deficiencies will be magnified at SS.

skinsfan69 11-09-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;622884]Yeah, Zorn mentioned that in his presser. Its a shame that it took an injury to our backup SS for the team to consider playing the 5th overall pick from 2007 at the position he was drafted to play. With Smoot or Moore starting at FS, look for Landry to become a beast at SS.[/quote]

Landry is missing tackles and taking bad angles. Does that have anything to do with his position? I doubt it.

Paintrain 11-09-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Lotus;622898]I think Landry's tackling deficiencies will be magnified at SS.[/quote]

I think he will be in position to make more tackles. Whether he does it or not is a different story but he won't be determining tackling angles from 30 yards away anymore.

Paintrain 11-09-2009 01:30 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;622900]Landry is missing tackles and taking bad angles. Does that have anything to do with his position? I doubt it.[/quote]

Tackling technique, no. Taking bad angles, yes. Do you not get this? If he's closer to the line of scrimmage, it vastly reduces the angle to the ball he has to take. If he's closer to the ball, he can arrive quicker. If he's closer to the ball, there's less chance of him being one on one with a ball carrier. It really is simple, how do you not understand this?

Defensewins 11-09-2009 02:00 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
Landry is an easy target for all of the angry fans. Is he the biggest problem or worst player on the team...no. His problems are correctable with good coaching and mentoring, something that is lacking with this staff. You do not throw away a good/young player just because you are frustrated over our season and other factors, as well as his play.
Landry has not played up to his potential, that is a given. However, since DC Williams left our safety play has regressed. The team as a whole has lacked a certain level of discipline in its play since that last coaching staff left and it is getting worse each week. That fault goes equally to the players and the current coaching staff.

Ruhskins 11-09-2009 02:03 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Defensewins;622919][B]Landry is an easy target for all of the angry fans.[/B] Is he the biggest problem or worst player on the team...no. His problems are correctable with good coaching and mentoring, something that is lacking with this staff. You do not throw away a good/young player just because you are frustrated over our season and toher factors as well as his play.
Landry has not played up to his potential, that is a given. However, since DC Williams left our safety play has regressed. The team as a whole has lacked a certain level of discipline in its play since that last coaching staff left and it is getting worse each week. That fault goes equally to the players and the current coaching staff.[/quote]

Lucky for him everyone is too focused on Hall.

Seriously though, I think you bring a good point. Landry has been showing his lack of discipline for the longest time, and his tackling has become more and more of an issue. While I'm upset at what he has done, responsibility also has to fall on the defensive coaches. Hell, for all of the poor tackling going (Landry, Hall, etc., etc.) with the team. Not that the players are off the hook, but coaching should assume responsibility as well.

Defensewins 11-09-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Landry is now a bust!
 
[quote=Ruhskins;622923]Lucky for him everyone is too focused on Hall.

Seriously though, I think you bring a good point. Landry has been showing his lack of discipline for the longest time, and his tackling has become more and more of an issue. While I'm upset at what he has done, responsibility also has to fall on the defensive coaches. Hell, for all of the poor tackling going (Landry, Hall, etc., etc.) with the team. Not that the players are off the hook, but coaching should assume responsibility as well.[/quote]

I think that has been [B]one[/B] of the biggest failures of this coaching staff, is developing the players. I do not see improvement, even if it is gradual, I do not see improvement in the play of the individual players. I think it is most evident in the big three receivers (Thomas, Davis and Kelly). Players jumping offsides, silly penalties and piss poor discipline play. Even if we lacked in the talent department due injuries and poor player personnel moves, at least play smart. We can not even do that. That is a major failure of this team. A BIG F!


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