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DC Sniper, John Allen Muhammad, set to receive lethal injection at 9:00PM
[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6539505/Washington-sniper-John-Allen-Muhammad-to-be-executed-at-9pm.html]Washington sniper John Allen Muhammad to be executed at 9pm - Telegraph[/url]
[quote]Governor Tim Kaine of Virginia, a Democrat, declined to stay the execution of Muhammad, 48, a former US soldier, following the United States Supreme Court's similar decision on Monday. Muhammad has no further avenues of appeal and is scheduled to be killed by lethal injection at 9pm local time at Greensville Correctional Center near Jarrett, Virginia. He and his accomplice Lee Boyd Malvo, now 24, terrorised the Washington area, killing 10 people in a three-week period before they were arrested. Using a battered car as a firing platform, they selected their targets at random and shot them at long rage. Under Virginia law, a condemned man may select whether to die by the electric chair or lethal election. Muhammad, who was born John Allen Williams but changed his name when he converted to Islam, declined to choose and officials therefore decided on the injection method. His execution is for the single murder of Dean Meyers, 58, shot while buying petrol. Officials said Muhammad would be injected with thipental sodium to put him to sleep, pancuronium bromide to stop him breathing, and potassium chloride to stop his heart. After their arrests, police established that the pair were also responsible for five other murders in Washington state, Arizona, Georgia, Alabama and Louisiana. But Malvo, who is serving a life sentence, confessed to four additional shootings, including two murders. Cheryll Witz is one of several victims' relatives who planned to watch the execution. Malvo confessed that, at Muhammad's direction, he shot her father, Jerry Taylor, on a golf course in Tucson, Arizona in March 2002. "He basically watched my dad breathe his last breath," she said. "Why shouldn't I watch his last breath?" The very broad area of the confirmed attacks means that a number of other shootings are considered as potentially linked to Muhammad and Malvo. Some of the relatives of those possible victims fear that Muhammad will take to his grave the secret of whether he was responsible for the murders of their loved ones. Sarah Dillon, whose son Billy Gene Dillon, 37, was shot dead outside a house in Texas in May 2002 has written to Muhammad and Malvo asking for confirmation or denial of their involvement but received no reply. The Texas authorities sent bullet fragments to the sniper task force but tests were inconclusive. Mrs Dillon said: "All I'm asking for is answers before they leave this world." Several relatives are due to witness the execution. Among them is Marion Lewis, 57, of Mountain Home, Idaho, whose daughter Lori Lewis Rivera was shot dead by Muhammad and Malvo - who pulled the trigger is not known - at a petrol station in Kensington, Maryland. He is being flown to Virginia by a syndicated television show and told The Washington Post he was looking forward to seeing the death penalty imposed. "I want to see what he made me see. He forced us to look at our little girl laying in a coffin. I want to see justice done. I want to see him take a last breath. I want to be able to describe it to the rest of the family. Muhammad will be given the chance to say some final words. Mr Lewis, who said he would have preferred a more "gruesome" execution method, wished he could say something too. "It would be short and simple: 'I'm here to see you die, son of a bitch'." Jonathan Sheldon, Muhammad's lawyer, said: "Virginia will execute a severely mentally ill man who also suffered from Gulf War Syndrome the day before Veterans Day." [/quote] I'm not one for the death penalty, but if people deserve it, he's definitely one of them. The one that did it for him was on the road between my house and work, which were 2 miles apart, at the station that I normally stopped at for gas. Was also in the area of the Home Depot one having dinner with the then GF (where the female FBI employee was killed). |
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Good riddance.
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Yeah, my daughter use to attend an elementary school near the Takoma area where he gunned someone down. At the time I was living in L.A. freaking out.
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Well it's approximately 9:04 so he should be gone by now. Good riddance. A waste of taxpayer funds in prison and a waste of a human life in general. I was in middle school at the time he was doing his thing and my friends were legitimately scared to walk to school. We'd all carpool with this one guy's dad for fear of being shot while walking through the neighborhood.
For all the pain and fear he inflicted on everybody in the DMV and all those other states I'm glad he's gone. Me and my coworkers were discussing ways he should've died today instead of lethal injection. If there ever was a case of someone who I felt should've felt the pain and fear that all his victims felt, it was this guy. |
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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/10/virginia.sniper.execution/index.html]Sniper John Allen Muhammad executed - CNN.com[/url]
rot in hell you coward! bye bye |
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Aspen Hill is less than 5 miles south of my hometown (Olney) and my mom actually knew one of the victims (Premkumar Walekar) and the sister of another (James L. Buchanan). I was away at college while this was happening but I was constantly worried for my family back home because I had two sisters in school and my dad works mainly outside. What these assholes did is nothing sort of terrorism.
Like tryfuhl, I'm not a big supporter of the death penalty but I'm not totally against it, especially in such extreme instances as this. |
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I use to work at a Suzuki motorcycle dealership in Aspen Hill years ago. AND, Olney was basically a general store and maybe a gas station when I was growing up.
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[quote=Hog1;623636]I use to work at a Suzuki motorcycle dealership in Aspen Hill years ago. AND, Olney was basically a general store and maybe a gas station when I was growing up.[/quote]That dealership was there forever, but I think it just closed down. My family has been in Olney since 1985 and it has changed quite a bit, but it really just seems like it got more crowded.
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I was working for UMD Admissions when this whole ordeal happened. I had to visit a number of high schools in Montgomery County and was deathly afraid everytime I got out of the car I was driving. A buddy of mine lived in Aspen Hill, on the same street where the bus driver was shot. He was terrified when this happened. I have my opinions about the death penalty, but I'm ok with it in this situation.
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Good to see him gone.
One of the first victims was killed within a mile of the house where I grew up in Kensington. I worked at the Safeway right next to the Shell station as a high school kid. Needless to say I was concerned for my Mom, sister and her family while this was going on. I was also coming back from DC and too tired to make it back to VB. So I stopped in Ashland and noticed a bunch of police on the exit. I didn't stop to find out what was up, just figured it was a wreck. I pulled into the Microtel to get some sleep and finish the drive in the AM. (Note: I had a shotgun in my vehicle, long story, but it was legal). I was woke up to ATF agents banging on my door at about 11:30pm with guns drawn. I opened the door (slowly and cautiously) and they checked me and the room out. Then they explained the sniper had shot someone at the Ponderosa in Ashland earlier that night. They wanted to check out my shotgun, (fortunately it wasn't a .22 rifle) once they knew it wasn't me, they apologized and let me go. Not a real fun experience. |
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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;623647]Good to see him gone.
One of the first victims was killed within a mile of the house where I grew up in Kensington. I worked at the Safeway right next to the Shell station as a high school kid. Needless to say I was concerned for my Mom, sister and her family while this was going on. I was also coming back from DC and too tired to make it back to VB. So I stopped in Ashland and noticed a bunch of police on the exit. I didn't stop to find out what was up, just figured it was a wreck. I pulled into the Microtel to get some sleep and finish the drive in the AM. (Note: I had a shotgun in my vehicle, long story, but it was legal). I was woke up to ATF agents banging on my door at about 11:30pm with guns drawn. I opened the door (slowly and cautiously) and they checked me and the room out. Then they explained the sniper had shot someone at the Ponderosa in Ashland earlier that night. They wanted to check out my shotgun, (fortunately it wasn't a .22 rifle) once they knew it wasn't me, they apologized and let me go. Not a real fun experience.[/quote] Damn dude, that was a close call. I'm sure the Feds were nervous as heck too. Good thing you weren't a shady character. This guy was really everywhere it seems. |
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Burn in hell you sorry piece of $hit.
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I was living in Ashland when he shot the guy at the Ponderosa. I ate there frequently.
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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;623638]That dealership was there forever, but I think it just closed down. My family has been in Olney since 1985 and it has changed quite a bit, but it really just seems like it got more crowded.[/quote]
Thats funny. We used to take whatever we could and go road racing around the Kmart parking lot behind the dealership at like midnight. Olney was a cool old country town back in the day |
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cant really find a reason to say anything but he didnt get what he deserved. all of the victims families should have had a hand in carrying out the sentence. maybe a public stoning?
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I'm not a supporter of the death penalty under any circumstances. He should have wasted away in prison. Killing him is letting him off the hook. Just my 2 cents.
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We have no need for people like that . Very sad he choose to kill , as opposed to making a honest living . I have to the Home Depot at 7 Corners where he killed that poor women < FBI > . Sorry S.O.B.
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[quote=budw38;623725]We have no need for people like that . Very sad he choose to kill , as opposed to making a honest living . I have to the Home Depot at 7 Corners where he killed that poor women < FBI > . Sorry S.O.B.[/quote]
I live about a mile from there. It's very strange getting out of the car when I go there. It's still creepy in a way. Glad he's dead and I wish they'd get the punk ass kid too. But he's probably someones boyfriend right now. |
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[quote=skinsfan69;623727]I live about a mile from there. It's very strange getting out of the car when I go there. It's still creepy in a way. Glad he's dead and I wish they'd get the punk ass kid too. But he's probably someones boyfriend right now.[/quote]
Good morning . My friend is a manager at the 7 corners Sunoco , which used to be a Mobil Station . After the shooting , people were running from their cars to the pump, running back into their cars and squating down in the front seat while the pump was filling the tank . That hit home . You know that mosque on rt 7 has had around a dozen people arrested for terrorist activity . Too bad the old man couldn't have had a few dozen boyfriends before we said goodbye sucker . |
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[quote=dmek25;623718]cant really find a reason to say anything but he didnt get what he deserved. all of the victims families should have had a hand in carrying out the sentence. maybe a public stoning?[/quote]
This is the first thing I've heard you say that was worth while. Keep up the good work skillet. |
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TTE i definitely screwed up if we agree :)
and i see your job says mortgage marketing. exactly what is that? my wife has been in the mortgage business for almost 25 years |
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My neighbor and a friend was one of the 4 reporters that witnessed the whole thing. She was then on Larry King Live.
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Good riddance to this POS.
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What would be fun is to drop him off in an empty parking lot and say today is your lucky day. Then have a the victims hiding all around the place taking shots at him tell he drops. If he is not dead we could allow the new doctors that will be working for Obama Care practice on him and that should do him in.
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[quote=firstdown;623879]What would be fun is to drop him off in an empty parking lot and say today is your lucky day. Then have a the victims hiding all around the place taking shots at him tell he drops. If he is not dead we could allow the new doctors that will be working for Obama Care practice on him and that should do him in.[/quote]
Funny . It got me thinking .... what if we had put him in prison , telling all of the inmates that he is a child rapist ? |
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[quote=budw38;623883]Funny . It got me thinking .... what if we had put him in prison , telling all of the inmates that he is a child rapist ?[/quote]
I'm actually for public hanging. It could be a big money maker for the state or cities. They could sell tickets and you could by an up gredded tick which allows you to throw tomatoes and other stuff at the persons. They could allow venders to sell food and other items like t-shirts that say stuff like "Stretch That Neck". They could also sell lottery tickets and the person getting hung draws a number and the winner gets to pull the lever. They would wait and do several at a time and instead of a them costing money we could actually make money off them. |
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[quote=firstdown;623891]I'm actually for public hanging. It could be a big money maker for the state or cities. They could sell tickets and you could by an up gredded tick which allows you to throw tomatoes and other stuff at the persons. They could allow venders to sell food and other items like t-shirts that say stuff like "Stretch That Neck". They could also sell lottery tickets and the person getting hung draws a number and the winner gets to pull the lever. They would wait and do several at a time and instead of a them costing money we could actually make money off them.[/quote]
Wow. I'm all for the death penalty but tell me you aren't serious? I mean you might as well say, throw them in a pit with rabid dogs and let the public watch as the dogs tear them apart. Personally, I like the chair (via Green Mile) more than lethal injection. |
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IMO id rather see the person executed than use my tax dollars to feed and house him the rest of his life. Just me
maybe if we tightened up on the consequences of these terrible crimes ppl would be less likely to commit them. |
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^not to mention if he were to stay alive in serve his life in prison, his family could still visit with him, thoose who died don't have that opportunity
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[quote=DBUCHANON101;623893]IMO id rather see the person executed than use my tax dollars to feed and house him the rest of his life. Just me
maybe if we [B]tightened up on the consequences of these terrible crimes ppl would be less likely to commit them.[/B][/quote] Eh, see that's what I dunno about. Retribution is supposed to be a deterrent but it isn't. The death penalty is supposed to be all about, "If you commit serious crimes, you pay the ultimate consequence" but people still go out and do dumb shit and hurt other people. Tightening up wouldn't help, because people would still do it. Its kinda crazy cause over in Asia in some places they do all that public flogging and stuff for the most minor of infractions and people tend to be pretty straight laced for the most part. I don't think stuff like that would work here. I bet people would just end up desensitized to it and then it'd stop mattering. I dunno. Maybe we're just effed and all we can do is just go about our lives, not worry too much and be as safe as possible. |
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[quote=DBUCHANON101;623893]IMO id rather see the person executed than use my tax dollars to feed and house him the rest of his life. Just me
maybe if we tightened up on the consequences of these terrible crimes ppl would be less likely to commit them.[/quote] I am for the death penalty, but people will do bad things regardless of the consequences. I believe, most of the time by the time the act is committed, the offender has moved past that state where a rational thought such as "I could suffer the death penalty" or "I could go to jail for a long time" - would impact his/her decision. Also, with judicial review, and appeals, the death penalty has been found to be as costly as housing a prisoner for life. Personally, I think the only valid reason for having the death penalty is that when someone takes a human life through murder or with intent to do evil, that person forfeits their right to life. |
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[quote=DBUCHANON101;623893]IMO id rather see the person executed than use my tax dollars to feed and house him the rest of his life. Just me
maybe if we tightened up on the consequences of these terrible crimes ppl would be less likely to commit them.[/quote]You do know it typically costs more to execute a convict than it does to keep them in prison for life, right. [url=http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty]Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center[/url] I'm not saying this POS didn't deserve to die, I just hate that whole "we shouldn't pay to keep him alive" argument, mainly because it's wrong. |
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Another interesting perspective.
"Of all the arguments in support of capital punishment, perhaps the most emotionally compelling is that it provides "closure" for the loved ones of murder victims. Prosecuting attorneys, politicians and journalists commonly refer to how executions allow family members to "move on" from their pain, providing a sense of relief at knowing that "justice" was finally served. " [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/09/AR2009110902794.html"]washingtonpost.com[/URL] |
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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;623903]You do know it typically costs more to execute a convict than it does to keep them in prison for life, right.
[url=http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty]Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center[/url] I'm not saying this POS didn't deserve to die, I just hate that whole "we shouldn't pay to keep him alive" argument, mainly because it's wrong.[/quote] Then lets change our methods, last i checked a 45ACP round wasnt too expensive. How bout 6 feet of rope? |
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[quote=DBUCHANON101;623917]Then lets change our methods, last i checked a 45ACP round wasnt too expensive.
[B]How bout 6 feet of rope?[/B][/quote] Bungie Jumping via the neck. Nice. Anyway the world will be slightly better as soon as we finish him off. |
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[quote=dmek25;623832]TTE i definitely screwed up if we agree :)
and i see your job says mortgage marketing. exactly what is that? my wife has been in the mortgage business for almost 25 years[/quote] I price out products off of our rate sheets. 30 / 20/ 15 year agency, govies, etc . . . |
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