Updated Roster Moves: Skins Sign QB Bartel and FB Evans; Waive QB Woodson
 

This guy apparently

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bartel]Richard Bartel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Practice squad fodder I suppose

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whats this mean for woodson

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Peyton????????????...........YES!

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I wonder what the attraction is.

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[quote=Lotus;630334]I wonder what the attraction is.[/quote]

Good question.

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Championship!!

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I haven't been able to officially confirm this anywhere, so I'm going to lock this thread for now

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Reopening now that I see a link

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/7188/redskins-to-sign-qb-bartel]Redskins to sign QB Bartel - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

Not sure what it says about Woodson that they plan to release him rather than bump him up to the active roster

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according to the article he will leap frog woodson and be on the 53 man roster and woodson will be released off the practice squad, this makes about as much sense as signing a back up rb when one of you o lineman go down, just another example of how f-ed our fo is

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When you sign someone from another team's practice squad, you HAVE to put them on the 53 man roster and keep them on 3 weeks. I think it says that Woodson wasn't making any progress and was not going to work out, so you bring in another qb and try them out. At that point Woodson is extraneous. This stuff really isn't Madden, or rocket science, and you have to follow the rules set by the NFL.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;630358]When you sign someone from another team's practice squad, [B]you HAVE to put them on the 53 man roster and keep them on 3 weeks.[/B] I think it says that Woodson wasn't making any progress and was not going to work out, so you bring in another qb and try them out. [B]At that point Woodson is extraneous[/B]. This stuff really isn't Madden, or rocket science, and you have to follow the rules set by the NFL.[/quote]

didn't realize that

wasn't he 10 weeks ago

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I think 10 weeks is about right, think about any job, the first few weeks really are just about getting to know if the newb can relate to the people in the company, then you start giving him responsibility and seeing if he gets it. after 8-10 weeks both sides know each other. Football is a different environment, I don't really know how it works, but its rare for a player, other than Mason, to be signed released signed back etc. I think bringing a guy to an active roster says that Woodson had gotten nowhere. Having said that we probably will resign him in three weeks when we got the new guy ;)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;630358]When you sign someone from another team's practice squad, you HAVE to put them on the 53 man roster and keep them on 3 weeks. I think it says that Woodson wasn't making any progress and was not going to work out, so you bring in another qb and try them out. At that point Woodson is extraneous. This stuff really isn't Madden, or rocket science, and you have to follow the rules set by the NFL.[/quote]

Yeah I think we had a similar situation with Alridge when he signed with us. Still, it's a bit disappointing that they didn't feel the guy they've had all season long practicing with them (a guy who they chose over Chase Daniel-not that I'm bitter-even all those times that Chase was available) wasn't considered good enough to make the active roster. Yet this guy who wasn't good enough it seems to be the #3 QB behind Quinn and Anderson in Cleveland, and who doesn't have the pedigree of Andre Woodson (or Chase Daniel-seriously, not bitter at all) is good enough?

If it were me, I would have just moved Woodson up to the active roster.

But clearly Bartel, the former Cowboy, was recommended to us by our next head coach...Jason Garrett! I keed, I keed.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;630366][B]I don't really know how it works, but its rare for a player, other than Mason, to be signed released signed back etc[/B]
Having said that we probably will resign him in three weeks when we got the new guy ;)[/quote]

i think we have resigned wynn three times this year

woudln't surprise me one bit

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Well put him in..

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Mosely seems to think he'd do alright. Personally I've never heard of him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;630368]Yeah I think we had a similar situation with Alridge when he signed with us. Still, it's a bit disappointing that they didn't feel the guy they've had all season long practicing with them (a guy who they chose over Chase Daniel-not that I'm bitter-even all those times that Chase was available) wasn't considered good enough to make the active roster. Yet this guy who wasn't good enough it seems to be the #3 QB behind Quinn and Anderson in Cleveland, and who doesn't have the pedigree of Andre Woodson (or Chase Daniel-seriously, not bitter at all) is good enough?

If it were me, I would have just moved Woodson up to the active roster.

But clearly Bartel, the former Cowboy, [B]was recommended to us by our next head coach...Jason Garrett! I keed, I keed.[/B][/quote]
next year's Washington Redskins Coaching staff:


HC - Jason Garrett
DC - Wade Phillips
to top it off
GM/President of football operations: Bill Parcells

Oh and we will be trading Moss to Buffalo for TO and we will send a 2nd round pick


Have I sent Redskins Nation into seizures yet?

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We'll get Switzer instead of Parcells

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Seriously, is there any real indication, any hint whatsoever, Snyder will turn this franchise over to a legitimate person? I keep hearing it mentioned but it seems 1) very speculative 2) a lot like flying in the face of Snyder's history as owner 3) possibly contrary to the direction we're headed.

...per the third point I really have to wonder if Snyder will see this season as justification for getting more involved instead of less. Allegedly he gave Vinny more control over the last two years and the result is, well, disaster. Who's to say Snyder hasn't been thinking of all the ways he'd do it better in full control? If he did have plans to turn the franchise over to a GM wouldn't you bring that guy in sooner than later so he can find out who's worth keeping around, both roster and staff wise? I mean I understand changing HC's midseason isn't wise but why wait to bring in a GM?

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What if the GM is currently employed by another team? What if the GM wants to wait until season's end? What if the GM is already surveying the team, but from a far as say a "consultant". What if the GM is an internal candidate already?

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[quote=SmootSmack;630406]What if the GM is currently employed by another team? What if the GM wants to wait until season's end? What if the GM is already surveying the team, but from a far as say a [B]"consultant"[/B]. What if the GM is an internal candidate already?[/quote]

Bruce Allen?

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I think it's official now. Bartel to the Skins, Woodson gone, and FB Jonathan Evans coming to the practice squad

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Sign_Bartel_to_Serve_As_Third_QB_83954.jsp]Redskins Sign Bartel to Serve As Third QB[/url]

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Jonathan Evans??? THE Jonathan Evans???


Ive been waiting for that move all year. The Super Bowl is in the crosshairs next season now that he's here... :benched:

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Well it doesn't matter really...because it's our defense that's losing us games

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[quote=mlmdub130;630356]according to the article he will leap frog woodson and be on the 53 man roster and woodson will be released off the practice squad, this makes about as much sense as signing a back up rb when one of you o lineman go down, just another example of how f-ed our fo is[/quote]

I wouldn't read much of anything into any of these moves made at this point in the season. They're all temporary and just a small part of a process that has to be completed. It won't be long before we won't remember any of these guys names.

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Woodson falling off, I remember when Mel Kipper had listed b4 the draft as a end of first round talent and this guy cant even keep on a practice squad.

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[quote=Chico23231;630492]Woodson falling off, I remember when Mel Kipper had listed b4 the draft as a end of first round talent and this guy cant even keep on a practice squad.[/quote]

Did you see him in college? At Kentucky this guy looked like he had it all; size, athleticism, decent accuracy. He seemed to have so much upside. Maybe he never committed himself & was lazy, or he's mentally slow.

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[quote=freddyg12;630495]Did you see him in college? At Kentucky this guy looked like he had it all; size, athleticism, decent accuracy. He seemed to have so much upside. Maybe he never committed himself & was lazy, or he's mentally slow.[/quote]

yeah he was a good amature player no doubt. but its just goes to show what a crap shoot the draft is...

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[quote=freddyg12;630495]Did you see him in college? At Kentucky this guy looked like he had it all; size, athleticism, decent accuracy. He seemed to have so much upside. Maybe he never committed himself & was lazy, or he's mentally slow.[/quote]

Or maybe he's good and our management is too stupid to see it. Let's hope that he doesn't sign somewhere else and light it up.

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It would be interesting to give Bartel some playing time to see what he can do. If they draft a QB this spring they will need someone on the roster to compete with the rookie.

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[quote=calia;630498]Or maybe he's good and our management is too stupid to see it. Let's hope that he doesn't sign somewhere else and light it up.[/quote]

Somehow I doubt it. He was horrible in preseason games with the Giants. Just downright bad. Perhaps he just needs more seasoning and coaching, but right now he is what he is, a practice squad guy that is probably going to bounce around for a while.

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[quote=freddyg12;630495]Did you see him in college? At Kentucky this guy looked like he had it all; size, athleticism, decent accuracy. He seemed to have so much upside. Maybe he never committed himself & was lazy, or he's mentally slow.[/quote]

This is an interesting piece on Woodson from when he was in Kentucky and how he didn't seem to take advantage of his abilities

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Bartel supposedly has a strong arm and got pretty good review this summer in Cleveland. I don't know anything about him

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[quote=calia;630498]Or maybe he's good and our management is too stupid to see it. Let's hope that he doesn't sign somewhere else and light it up.[/quote]
Well wouldn't you have to say that there is also 31 other teams who also don't see his talent. I know not all are looking to add QB's but teams are always scouting players and none seem to be going after him.

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[quote=freddyg12;630495]Did you see him in college? At Kentucky this guy looked like he had it all; size, athleticism, decent accuracy. He seemed to have so much upside. Maybe he never committed himself & was lazy, or he's mentally slow.[/quote]


Gamecocks got to him and ruined him for life.

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[quote=irish;630499]It would be interesting to give Bartel some playing time to see what he can do. If they draft a QB this spring they will need someone on the roster to compete with the rookie.[/quote]

What if the rookie turns out to be a bust, which is most 1st round QBs? Or what if the rookie needs time to grow? By the time he starts to learn we will need a new everything. Took Manning 7 years to blossom to win a playoff game.

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I really like this move by Vinny this is what we need right now.
Bartel will be brought in and asked... "How good is Brady Quinn really?"
He'll say, "Omg he's so underrated he taught me everything I know. I don't understand the criticism."
Vinny replies, "Thank you Bartel for you information btw you're cut."
We then offer Jason Campbell to the Browns for Brady, they don't accept, and we give up 2nd and a third for the turd named Quinn.

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Theismann was a......late bloomer as well

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[quote=SmootSmack;630486]Well it doesn't matter really...because it's our defense that's losing us games[/quote]


the defense that held the Cowgirls to 7 ... very late points? .. u cant seriously be blaming them for one touchdown late in the fourth when our offense couldnt get the ball in the end zone.

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That ESPN article makes it sound like Bartel will play this season...a ridiculous thought.