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9 of the 21 mocks projecting a QB tot he Redskins project Sam Bradford. However, Jake Locker and Jimmy Clausen increase in their projections, while Tim Tebow falls.

3 mocks have the Redskins going DT. Huh? Really?

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We better not pick that stick Bradford, we can't protect him he'd be ground beef in the NFC Beast.

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not gonna lie, even though we have various offensive needs, suh might be too good to pass up if he were available wherever we pick. he and haynesworth in the middle...they both require double teams. orakpo and carter would have a field day at the qb. we will see how things play out.

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[quote=Big C;632854]not gonna lie, even though we have various offensive needs, suh might be too good to pass up if he were available wherever we pick. he and haynesworth in the middle...they both require double teams. orakpo and carter would have a field day at the qb. we will see how things play out.[/quote]

Plus, if we are uncapped, we can get another QB via free agency.

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[quote=jsarno;632857]Plus, if we are uncapped, we can get another QB via free agency.[/quote]

Such as?

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Seriously, if we pick any Defensive player in the first 3 rounds(assuming we pick up some picks) I think Ashburn had better pull up the drawbridge and prepare for an armada of mobile signs, cuz EVERYONE knows what we ought to be picking!

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I really hope we don't draft any defensive players early, though I might make a small exception for Eric Berry. But even that won't thrill me

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There are some "beasts" out there on defense. There is every year. DRAFT O-LINE!

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Sam or clausen either one Id be glad

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632872]Sam or clausen either one Id be glad[/quote]

clausen will be a much better pro than bradford imo. id be happy with clausen, suh, or o-line in the first round. otherwise not so much.

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No on suh... We must draft a qb or ol in first rd... Bradford is legit and so is clausen so we should be able to get one of those guys

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632876]No on suh... We must draft a qb or ol in first rd... Bradford is legit and so is clausen so we should be able to get one of those guys[/quote]

you live in big 12 country, you know how dominant suh is. imagine he and haynesworth paired up in the middle. thats would just be incredible.

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[quote=Big C;632878]you live in big 12 country, you know how dominant suh is. imagine he and haynesworth paired up in the middle. thats would just be incredible.[/quote]

I agree with you 100% that it would be incredible and being someone who LOVES defense it makes me drool just thinking about it. But a d-line made up with all #1 picks and an 0-line made up with UDFA's isn't going to get us very far. This offense needs some SERIOUS help on the 0-line. At some point we need to stop taking what we want, and start drafting what we NEED.

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I would take clausen and get charlie weis as our offensive coordinator

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[quote=Eknox;632853]We better not pick that stick Bradford, we can't protect him he'd be ground beef in the NFC Beast.[/quote]

I agree. We don't need Bradford at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;632863]I really hope we don't draft any defensive players early, though I might make a small exception for Eric Berry. But even that won't thrill me[/quote]

Taylor Mays anyone???

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1. Russell Okung LT Oklahoma State
2. Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
3. Anthony Davis G/T Rutgers
4. Trent Williams LT Oklahoma
5A. Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame
5B. Jake Locker QB Washington

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[quote=CultBrennan59;632893]1. Russell Okung LT Oklahoma State
2. Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
3. Anthony Davis G/T Rutgers
4. Trent Williams LT Oklahoma
5A. Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame
5B. Jake Locker QB Washington[/quote]

Trent Williams seems like the choice to me.

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[quote=SmootSmack;632863]I really hope we don't draft any defensive players early, though I might make a small exception for Eric Berry. But even that won't thrill me[/quote]Would you take Berry in the top 8 picks if Landry could be traded for a package including a second (between picks 40 and 55) and a sixth rounder?

Could the offensive issues be addressed with two second round picks?

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CultB - If Russel Okung is available and the Skins must pick him over any other prospect - we need to use the 1st and 2nd round pick on offensive linemen in my opinion.

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[quote=GTripp0012;632900]Would you take Berry in the top 8 picks if Landry could be traded for a package including a second (between picks 40 and 55) and a sixth rounder?

Could the offensive issues be addressed with two second round picks?[/quote]

Can we also maybe trade Rogers for a 3rd? And are we sticking with Campbell in this scenario...or re-signing Chase Daniel?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632876]No on suh... We must draft a qb or ol in first rd... [B]Bradford is legit [/B][B]and so is clausen [/B]so we should be able to get one of those guys[/quote]

last time i checked they were both still in college, so how are they legit??

we have to go oline first round, and grab pike in the second

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[quote=skinsfan69;632888]Taylor Mays anyone???[/quote]

that guy is a stud he knocked out two players with one hit last year

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFzcK9dqj8]YouTube - Taylor Mays lays the wood on Penn State Receiver[/ame]

but we need oline

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[quote=SmootSmack;632905]Can we also maybe trade Rogers for a 3rd? And are we sticking with Campbell in this scenario...or re-signing Chase Daniel?[/quote]Well, in this scenario we can't necessarily get anything meaningful for those guys before the draft, so whether or not they are in our future plays, we still have Campbell or Rogers going into draft day on second round RFA tenders. The only opportunity would be to trade Landry for a 2nd+.

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[quote=Bill B;632901]CultB - If Russel Okung is available and the Skins must pick him over any other prospect - we need to use the 1st and 2nd round pick on offensive linemen in my opinion.[/quote]

You're not alone in you opinion.

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[quote=GTripp0012;632912]Well, in this scenario we can't necessarily get anything meaningful for those guys before the draft, so whether or not they are in our future plays, we still have Campbell or Rogers going into draft day on second round RFA tenders. The only opportunity would be to trade Landry for a 2nd+.[/quote]

Eh...probably not. I really don't have a problem with Landry. Just that it seems Landry, Horton, and Doughty all pretty much play the same position-Strong Safety. And I'm not sold yet on Moore as a starting free safety. I think drafting someone like Berry doesn't really help matters. A guy like Allen out of South Florida in the 5th round might be another issue.

I would like to address our QB issue (whether that means drafting someone or extending Campbell), our OT issues, and our RB issue before we address the secondary.

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get off Chase Daniel... This guy isn't anygood geeze

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[quote=SmootSmack;632924]Eh...probably not. I really don't have a problem with Landry. Just that it seems Landry, Horton, and Doughty all pretty much play the same position-Strong Safety. And I'm not sold yet on Moore as a starting free safety. I think drafting someone like Berry doesn't really help matters. A guy like Allen out of South Florida in the 5th round might be another issue.

I would like to address our QB issue (whether that means drafting someone or extending Campbell), our OT issues, and our RB issue before we address the secondary.[/quote]I don't really have a problem with Landry either, at least when we point out that there's nothing that Landry is struggling with right now that Sean didn't also have issues with during his disastrous 2006 season. Our safety play has been very poor, but I really don't feel like that's Landry's fault. He's not having a good year by any means, but the responsibility he has in the defense is so much more than any player outside of maybe Fletcher, that it's understandable if he's a bit overwhelmed.

This team needs more guys who can cover, particularly zone coverage guys given our progressing inability to play any man (especially if Smoot and Rogers both go). But one of the benefits of the uncapped year is that if we find out we have a need for zone coverage players, we'll be able to fill it without using top two round draft choices.

I guess it really comes down to Berry being an all-world player or not. It's been three years--I guess we're due to draft a safety really high anytime now...

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Landry can still be a real good player and I would not trade him for a #2 draft pick. His main problem is always trying to blow people up instead of just making the play. I think he needs to mature a bit but I am not ready to give up on him.

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Unless we sign 3 new offensive linemen in free agency, we really need to go OL... I think any QB that is drafted right now will be destined to fail... my ideal situation, should we have a high enough pick is Oline in round #1 and one of these guys maybe falls to us in the 2nd....

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Clausen or McCoy will be better pros than Stafford. McCoy should he fall to us has a lot of experience in a tough conference, and will benefit from that when he gets to the NFL. I want a quarterback first round, somewhat as a sign that were finally moving on to bigger and better things. From there we need linemen, a running back, and a safety.

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[quote=cdskins26;633004]Clausen or McCoy will be better pros than Stafford. McCoy should he fall to us has a lot of experience in a tough conference, and will benefit from that when he gets to the NFL. I want a quarterback first round, somewhat as a sign that were finally moving on to bigger and better things. From there we need linemen, a running back, and a safety.[/quote]

clausen yes, mccoy no. really dont think mccoy will be a good pro.

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[quote=mlmdub130;632907]last time i checked they were both still in college, so how are they legit??

we have to go oline first round, and grab pike in the second[/quote]

I agree with Pike being a great 2nd or 3rd round pick, but if we do get a QB we need to give them time to learn the system and not just throw him in there. The reason i like Pike is that he is playing great with team that is not a power house. teams like Texas, USC, Florida, Oklahoma and Ohio st. always have the a hell of a lot of talent, so its hard to tell if its the QB or just the talent around him. not to say Gillard and Wood are not great recievers for Pike, but QB's at non-cream-of-the-crop schools have to do better with a little less supporting cast in there college years. All this said we still need Campbell back next tio have some sort of consistancy in the broken system we have now.

and Charles Brown should be our first pick.

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if we hire weiss as our OC i'm OUT as a SKINS fan forever!

Weiss will EAT our TEAM!

notre dame TOOK IZ JOOOBBB derpppaaa duuurrrrr

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mccoy a good pro? get off that pipe son! Tebow will be the best QB in the draft i'm telling you! he's got jesus on his side! but he just wills to win son. watch he'll single handedly have the drive to beat Bama.....always does. he certainly has that "it" factor on his side.

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Not sold on any QB in the up coming draft with the 1st pickin round one. Look at the OL,RB,CB...maybe trade down to get more picks.

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No qb in the first round...don't you guys watch the games, JC isn't winning any games but the O-line is actively losing games. You have to fix the weakest link first and that is the o-line, pick up some tackles and shore up the guards.

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I don't know what to do in the draft to help this team, but I'm sure there is somebody out there who can figure it out. What I'm getting at is this: if he wants to win, Dan Snyder must do the following things before the draft.

1. Fire Vinny.
2. Fire Zorn.
3. Hire a competent GM.
4. Give the new GM full control.
5. Let the new GM hire a new Head Coach of his choosing.
6. Let the new GM consult with the new HC and decide who to draft.

Without a new GM and a new Head Coach, any improvement in the team will be marginal no matter who we get in the draft.

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[quote=tootergray34;633041]mccoy a good pro? get off that pipe son! Tebow will be the best QB in the draft i'm telling you! he's got jesus on his side! but he just wills to win son. watch he'll single handedly have the drive to beat Bama.....always does. he certainly has that "it" factor on his side.[/quote]

a) I'm not sure that Tebow is the best qb in the draft. As far as "single-handedly" beating Bama goes, I have yet to see Tebow block for himself.

b) I'm not sure that Tebow is the only qb in the draft with "Jesus on his side." Other QB's may be just as religious but keep their beliefs out of the public eye. Being the most publicly Christian and being the most Christian are hardly the same thing.

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[quote=cdskins26;633004]Clausen or McCoy will be better pros than Stafford. McCoy should he fall to us has a lot of experience in a tough conference, and will benefit from that when he gets to the NFL. [B]I want a quarterback first round, somewhat as a sign that were finally moving on to bigger and better things[/B]. From there we need linemen, a running back, and a safety.[/quote]

to me thats not moving on thats the same old crap we have been pulling, go for the "sexy" pick. to move on we have to get a solid lineman, to officially move on we need to get a new football gm and a hands off owner