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1. Fire Vinny Cerrato now. (at this very second)
2. Hire Mike Holmgren as President of Football Operations.
3. At season's end, terminate Jim Zorn's contract.
4. As soon as the season is over for the Arizona Cardinals bring in Russ Grimm for an interview. As a minority candidate, interview Greg Blache. Another possible candidate should be Jim Harbaugh (Current coach at Stanford) All are level headed, and tough coaches who would give the Redskins a competitive identity and motivate the players to play up to their talent level and potential. Also, both understand the correct way to build a championship program.
5. Whomever is chosen as the 28th Head Coach will be allowed to choose his coaching staff and should have at least 50% input on personnel decisions.
6. Re-sign Jason Campbell to a one year contract.
7. Through FA acquire 3-5 OL and a few backups including QB Chase Daniel (if the Saints do not sign him), and possibly a DB and an OLB.
8. With the top ten pick, select one of the many sought after OL including, but not limited to, such prospects as Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Charles Brown (USC), and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa). With the rest of the draft choices, select 2-3 more OL, a QB, and depending on the draft board, possibly a DB, a LB, or a RB/WR.

Comments?

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Holmgren seems almost certain to return to Seattle.

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Blache is likely to retire after this season. Russ Grimm is not qualified to be a head coach.

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So you want to Hire Mike Homgren and then [I]fire[/I] his friend Jim Zorn ?

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;633864]So you want to Hire Mike Homgren and then [I]fire[/I] his friend Jim Zorn ?[/quote]

Yeah, that seemed a true Madden move, no consequence, no basing on real interpersonal reactions.

Just curious, hate to be a :postcop: but wasn't there a number of other suitable threads. I would guess this scenario has been discussed ad nauseum somewhere on this site.

(but maybe i saw it on a bus )

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All solid moves with the possible exception of the Holmgren move. It's solid, but not likely I guess.


Blatche is a great coordinator but if he's going to retire...what about Jerry Gray for DC?

With the possible exception of replacing Carlos Rogers, the D is solid.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;633869]Yeah, that seemed a true Madden move, no consequence, no basing on real interpersonal reactions.

Just curious, hate to be a :postcop: but wasn't there a number of other suitable threads. I would guess this scenario has been discussed ad nauseum somewhere on this site.

([B]but maybe i saw it on a bus [/B] )[/quote]

:rofl:

I think this has become the new "Let's trade Campbell for Simms".

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RB has become a major issue. I say take the first 2 rounds you take best at position between RB and OL.

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Duetsch215..........I just called Redskin Park. They have not yet fired Vinnie. I regret to inform you.....it appears your plan is in peril?

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[quote=Lotus;633860]Holmgren seems almost certain to return to Seattle.[/quote]

Ruskell resigned as GM yesterday, so this could happen anytime soon.

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[quote=duetsch215;633856]1. Fire Vinny Cerrato now. (at this very second)
2. Hire Mike Holmgren as President of Football Operations.
3. At season's end, terminate Jim Zorn's contract.
4. As soon as the season is over for the Arizona Cardinals bring in Russ Grimm for an interview. As a minority candidate, interview Greg Blache. Another possible candidate should be Jim Harbaugh (Current coach at Stanford) All are level headed, and tough coaches who would give the Redskins a competitive identity and motivate the players to play up to their talent level and potential. Also, both understand the correct way to build a championship program.
5. Whomever is chosen as the 28th Head Coach will be allowed to choose his coaching staff and should have at least 50% input on personnel decisions.
6. Re-sign Jason Campbell to a one year contract.
7. Through FA acquire 3-5 OL and a few backups including QB Chase Daniel (if the Saints do not sign him), and possibly a DB and an OLB.
8. With the top ten pick, select one of the many sought after OL including, but not limited to, such prospects as Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Charles Brown (USC), and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa). With the rest of the draft choices, select 2-3 more OL, a QB, and depending on the draft board, possibly a DB, a LB, or a RB/WR.

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This is a like a recap of several threads (side note: maybe we should start having thread mashups in the parking lot. wouldn't that be something?)

1. Seems like that's everyone's solution
2. Ok...though I don't think he's coming here (I don't think Seattle is a lock for him either)
3. Why not let the new President of Football Ops decide what he wants to do with the head coach?
4. Again, why not let the new President decide and maybe I read it wrong but it seemed like you only wanted to interview Blache as a token candidate. Why waste his time and ours
5. We've had 28 coaches? Really? Wow
6. Nothing to gain in my opinion from another one-year contract. But again, why not let the new President (and head coach) decide?
7. Any 3 OL? Because you know last off-season we signed Dockery, Jeremy Bridges, and Mike Williams for the OL. Plus Edwin Williams. We also signed a couple of running backs in Dorsey, Mason, and Alridge. Granted, not all those guys are still here
8. I love the Hawkeyes and therefore am a Bulaga fan...but he's not a top 10 worthy pick. Also, based on points 7 and 8-you want to add about 9 offensive linemen?

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[quote=duetsch215;633856]1. Fire Vinny Cerrato now. (at this very second)
2. Hire Mike Holmgren as President of Football Operations.
3. At season's end, terminate Jim Zorn's contract.
4. As soon as the season is over for the Arizona Cardinals bring in Russ Grimm for an interview. As a minority candidate, interview Greg Blache. Another possible candidate should be Jim Harbaugh (Current coach at Stanford) All are level headed, and tough coaches who would give the Redskins a competitive identity and motivate the players to play up to their talent level and potential. Also, both understand the correct way to build a championship program.
5. Whomever is chosen as the 28th Head Coach will be allowed to choose his coaching staff and should have at least 50% input on personnel decisions.
6. Re-sign Jason Campbell to a one year contract.
7. Through FA acquire 3-5 OL and a few backups including QB Chase Daniel (if the Saints do not sign him), and possibly a DB and an OLB.
8. With the top ten pick, select one of the many sought after OL including, but not limited to, such prospects as Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Charles Brown (USC), and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa). With the rest of the draft choices, select 2-3 more OL, a QB, and depending on the draft board, possibly a DB, a LB, or a RB/WR.

Comments?[/quote]

My solution would be:

1. Hire a President of Football Operations.
2. The President of Football Operations decides everything else on your list.

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[quote=Chico23231;633875]RB has become a major issue. I say take the first 2 rounds you take best at position between RB and OL.[/quote]

We'd be foolish to take a RB in the 1st or 2nd round behind anything less than a top 10 offensive line. RBs have such a short shelf-life, you dont want to use a pick that high on them unless you have a dominant line. I think a 4th-5th round RB will do just fine for us in 2010. If we get the QB and OL situation solidified in 2010, then i'd be all for taking a 1st or 2nd round RB in 2011.

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This is already discussed in other threads

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;633869]Yeah, that seemed a true Madden move, no consequence, no basing on real interpersonal reactions.

Just curious, hate to be a :postcop: but wasn't there a number of other suitable threads. I would guess this scenario has been discussed ad nauseum somewhere on this site.

(but maybe i saw it on a bus )[/quote]

Just the old stand-by thread when there's nothing else of particular interest to discuss.

Under no circumstances do I think Mike Holmgren would be the freak for punishment that Zorn has become.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;633861]Blache is likely to retire after this season. [b]Russ Grimm is not qualified to be a head coach.[/b][/quote]


More qualified than Zorn. I want Grim. I want the legacy.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;633912]This is already discussed in other threads[/quote]

ok really..the thread is just for discussion. If you dont like the damn thread dont comment on it

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;633931]More qualified than Zorn. I want Grim. I want the legacy.[/quote]
The Legacy would include any player that was on the team then. I still have yet to hear a good argument for Grimm.. I hear he's tough enough to make the players do well, I guess in that case the 49ers should be winning their division instead of sitting in 2nd in a weak division at 5-6

then I hear he'll address the o-line... might as well hire a HC to improve a QB in that case, oh wait...

Grimm is an offensive line coach for the Cardinals and was for the Steelers, neither teams are known for their o-line success, quite the opposite really

might as well promote bugel in that case

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I don't think much of adding 3-5 o linemen through free agency. I think that it would be a better move to hire a solid gm (holmgren would be great) and then let him bring in a offensive line coach who is really good and then pick up 2-3 oLs through the draft. Sure it will take some time to rebuild but who cares, this team is in rebuilding mode for the next 2 years.

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[quote=duetsch215;633856]1. Fire Vinny Cerrato now. (at this very second)
2. Hire Mike Holmgren as President of Football Operations.
3. At season's end, terminate Jim Zorn's contract.
4. As soon as the season is over for the Arizona Cardinals bring in Russ Grimm for an interview. As a minority candidate, interview Greg Blache. Another possible candidate should be Jim Harbaugh (Current coach at Stanford) All are level headed, and tough coaches who would give the Redskins a competitive identity and motivate the players to play up to their talent level and potential. Also, both understand the correct way to build a championship program.
5. Whomever is chosen as the 28th Head Coach will be allowed to choose his coaching staff and should have at least 50% input on personnel decisions.
6. Re-sign Jason Campbell to a one year contract.
7. Through FA acquire 3-5 OL and a few backups including QB Chase Daniel (if the Saints do not sign him), and possibly a DB and an OLB.
8. With the top ten pick, select one of the many sought after OL including, but not limited to, such prospects as Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Charles Brown (USC), and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa). With the rest of the draft choices, select 2-3 more OL, a QB, and depending on the draft board, possibly a DB, a LB, or a RB/WR.

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i agree with the Cerato move thats about it. Holmgren is going back to seattle as GM or to Cleveland as GM. Firing Zorn seems to be everyones wishes, but lets look a little deeper into that :

1) the team has shown some life since the 2nd half of the Atlanta game. We had them close until some missed tackles, beat Denver, Played Dallas great, and Philly close.
2) Holmgren isn't coming, Gruden isn't coming, Shanahan may go to Dallas or Buffalo, Cower isn't coming...so why fire a guy when there really isn't anyone else out there. I have said for years it takes more than two years to guage progression. I personally have seen this team respond both offensively and defensively the past 4 weeks. With out 4 of the probowl players on the field. I would keep Zorn and Campbell for another year (sign them to two year deals if possible)
3) Trade down in the draft. We need more than 1 top 10 player to make us better. Get rid of a couple of guys for draft picks (Portis, Moss, Randel El if possible) Draft O-lineman left and right. Let Betts compete for the job next year, let the young receivers we have PLAY!!!
4) I like Grimm too, but honestly not more qualified than Zorn at this point, why change everything for that? Not worth it, rather keep things the same than start over with another unproven guy.

I just see guys playing extremely hard right now and we are playing some very good teams pretty damn close. If we get rid of some guys that are all about me..me..me (Portis!!) I really think we have things in place to be a successful team, WITH ZORN.
This organization has bread into this fan base that we have to win and win now. that isn't how its done in the NFL anymore. Its patience, its drafting young talent, its cohesion amongst the coaching staff and players. I am so willing to give Zorn another year or two to prove everyone wrong..or right..instead of starting all over again, just to be in the same position again in two years when whomever comes here is 500 or worse!!

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Forget holmgren he is seattles now
I like the idea of grimm and harbaugh but shanahans our guy it seems
Blache will retire
Don't re-sign Campbell, i cant stand another year with this guy
I like the draft free agency idea though
I would also consider leslie Frazier as a head coaching candidate (the defensive coordinator from Minnesota)

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[quote=duetsch215;633856]1. Fire Vinny Cerrato now. (at this very second)
2. Hire Mike Holmgren as President of Football Operations.
3. At season's end, terminate Jim Zorn's contract.
4. As soon as the season is over for the Arizona Cardinals bring in Russ Grimm for an interview. As a minority candidate, interview Greg Blache. Another possible candidate should be Jim Harbaugh (Current coach at Stanford) All are level headed, and tough coaches who would give the Redskins a competitive identity and motivate the players to play up to their talent level and potential. Also, both understand the correct way to build a championship program.
5. Whomever is chosen as the 28th Head Coach will be allowed to choose his coaching staff and should have at least 50% input on personnel decisions.
6. Re-sign Jason Campbell to a one year contract.
7. Through FA acquire 3-5 OL and a few backups including QB Chase Daniel (if the Saints do not sign him), and possibly a DB and an OLB.
8. With the top ten pick, select one of the many sought after OL including, but not limited to, such prospects as Russell Okung (Oklahoma State), Trent Williams (Oklahoma), Charles Brown (USC), and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa). With the rest of the draft choices, select 2-3 more OL, a QB, and depending on the draft board, possibly a DB, a LB, or a RB/WR.

Comments?[/quote]
Well you managed to wrap up stuff thats been posted 1000's of times in over 100 threads so lets talk about it some more.

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[quote=firstdown;634079]Well you managed to wrap up stuff thats been posted 1000's of times in over 100 threads so lets talk about it some more.[/quote]

yeah in the threads it belongs in, surprised this thread hasn't been hijacked to see if red meat or white meat is better

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[quote=mlmdub130;634088]yeah in the threads it belongs in, surprised this thread hasn't been hijacked to see if red meat or white meat is better[/quote]
I perfer pink meat.

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[quote=#56fanatic;634066]i agree with the Cerato move thats about it. Holmgren is going back to seattle as GM or to Cleveland as GM. Firing Zorn seems to be everyones wishes, but lets look a little deeper into that :

1) the team has shown some life since the 2nd half of the Atlanta game. We had them close until some missed tackles, beat Denver, Played Dallas great, and Philly close.
2) Holmgren isn't coming, Gruden isn't coming, Shanahan may go to Dallas or Buffalo, Cower isn't coming...so why fire a guy when there really isn't anyone else out there. I have said for years it takes more than two years to guage progression. I personally have seen this team respond both offensively and defensively the past 4 weeks. With out 4 of the probowl players on the field. I would keep Zorn and Campbell for another year (sign them to two year deals if possible)
3) Trade down in the draft. We need more than 1 top 10 player to make us better. Get rid of a couple of guys for draft picks (Portis, Moss, Randel El if possible) Draft O-lineman left and right. Let Betts compete for the job next year, let the young receivers we have PLAY!!!
4) I like Grimm too, but honestly not more qualified than Zorn at this point, why change everything for that? Not worth it, rather keep things the same than start over with another unproven guy.

I just see guys playing extremely hard right now and we are playing some very good teams pretty damn close. If we get rid of some guys that are all about me..me..me (Portis!!) I really think we have things in place to be a successful team, WITH ZORN.
This organization has bread into this fan base that we have to win and win now. that isn't how its done in the NFL anymore. Its patience, its drafting young talent, its cohesion amongst the coaching staff and players. I am so willing to give Zorn another year or two to prove everyone wrong..or right..instead of starting all over again, just to be in the same position again in two years when whomever comes here is 500 or worse!![/quote]

Maybe not popular...but reasonable. The young guys are playing hard and the offense is doing better. Fix the o-line and I think we can see some marked improvement.

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[quote=firstdown;634099]I perfer pink meat.[/quote]

Monty: Okay, so how would you like your steak prepared?

Female Customer: Oh, let's see... Medium... medium-rare... Well, I want a hot, pink center.

Monty: Don't we all?

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Hmmm....... another redskin fan wanting a laundry list of change. thats refreshing. you cant buy a championship! mark my words: If zorn is to return next season (which COULD very well happen) they would show good to "oh my god" improvement, perhaps even a wildcard. THROW THE MAN A FRIGGIN BONE. left him get his feet under him.

If zorn we to be replaced i think it is in the interest of the team to keep zorn as a positional coach, if willing.

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS **update**
-Draft offensive linemen
-draft offensive linemen
-draft offensive linemen
-keep zorn
-keep J-CAMPBELL
-rid yourself of washups (clinton portis)
-give JC some flippin time and contacts
-drft a qb for 1 year from now. NOT CLAUSEN THE GUY IS A ASSCLOWN

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[quote=Ilovebeer <3;634206]Hmmm....... another redskin fan wanting a laundry list of change. thats refreshing. you cant buy a championship! mark my words: If zorn is to return next season (which COULD very well happen) [B]they would show good to "oh my god" improvement[/B], perhaps even a wildcard. THROW THE MAN A FRIGGIN BONE. [B]left him get his feet under him[/B].

[B]If zorn we to be replaced [/B]i think it is in the interest of the team to keep zorn as a positional coach, if willing.

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS **update**
-Draft offensive linemen
-draft offensive linemen
-draft offensive linemen
-keep zorn
-keep J-CAMPBELL
-rid yourself of washups (clinton portis)
-give JC some flippin time and contacts
-drft a qb for 1 year from now. [B]NOT CLAUSEN THE GUY IS A ASSCLOWN[/B][/quote]

huh?

huh?

huh?

any why?

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[quote=Ilovebeer <3;634206]Hmmm....... another redskin fan wanting a laundry list of change. thats refreshing. you cant buy a championship! mark my words: If zorn is to return next season (which COULD very well happen) they would show good to "oh my god" improvement, perhaps even a wildcard. THROW THE MAN A FRIGGIN BONE. left him get his feet under him.

If zorn we to be replaced i think it is in the interest of the team to keep zorn as a positional coach, if willing.

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS **update**
-Draft offensive linemen
-draft offensive linemen
-draft offensive linemen
-keep zorn
-keep J-CAMPBELL
-rid yourself of washups (clinton portis)
-give JC some flippin time and contacts
-drft a qb for 1 year from now. NOT CLAUSEN THE GUY IS A ASSCLOWN[/quote]

Whoa bro you should be a GM somewhere.

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Campbell must GO!

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Year 1:
Fire Zorn, Fire Vinny
Hire Jimmy Raye of the Chargers
Promote Jerry Grey to head coach, Retain Shermin Lewis
Franchise Jason Campbell, trade Malcolm Kelly for picks.
Draft a tackle, and a QB
Target O.J. Atogwe in free agency to play FS move Landry to SS
Also target D'Qwell Jackson to replace London Fletcher at MLB (strictly for age)

Year 2:
If Jerry Gray doesn't do well let GM Raye replace him with his choice.

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Keep Zorn! Fire Vinny!! Draft OL!!!

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draft my boy kimbo

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[quote=Ilovebeer <3;635712]draft my boy kimbo[/quote]

kimbo slice?

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can we keep a coach long enough to get something going. FIRE VINNY

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[quote=mlmdub130;634210]huh?

huh?

huh?

any why?[/quote]

no clausen because he is not that good. half his long balls are always underthrown bad. also he is wayyyyyyyyyy too full of himself. FOR EXAMPLE: he took a limousine to his college signing day, which to me is way to much for a HS player going into college.

he wont be a good pro. next ryan leaf. Clausen = lose

just some concern that will fall on deaf ears i am sure.

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[quote=SmootSmack;635715]kimbo slice?[/quote]

yessir,

on a side note, did anybody see him beat Houston Alexander?

VASTLY improved his ground skills. i could see a kimbo/lesner fight in a year or something.

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[quote=Ilovebeer <3;635720]yessir,

on a side note, did anybody see him beat Houston Alexander?

VASTLY improved his ground skills. i could see a kimbo/lesner fight in a year or something.[/quote]

sure did

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[quote=diehardskin2982;635658]Year 1:
Fire Zorn, Fire Vinny
Hire Jimmy Raye of the Chargers
Promote Jerry Grey to head coach, Retain Shermin Lewis
Franchise Jason Campbell, trade Malcolm Kelly for picks.
Draft a tackle, and a QB
Target O.J. Atogwe in free agency to play FS move Landry to SS
Also target D'Qwell Jackson to replace London Fletcher at MLB (strictly for age)

Year 2:
If Jerry Gray doesn't do well let GM Raye replace him with his choice.[/quote]
What do you think that we'd get for Kelly... also, picks.. meaning plural?

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[quote=tryfuhl;635856]What do you think that we'd get for Kelly... also, picks.. meaning plural?[/quote]
There are a few players I see with value. If I was the GM, I would be shopping these guys for draft Picks:
Malcolm Kelly
Anthony Montgomery
Antwaan Randel El
Ladel Betts

When I was speaking of Kelly, if I was the GM I would pursue trading down in the second and Package that with Kelly to pick a third rounder, and hopefully a 6th.