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CRedskinsRule 12-10-2009 09:05 AM

President Obama's Nobel Prize Speech
 
I imagine many will have thoughts on it:

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_obama_nobel_text]Text of Obama's Nobel Peace Prize speech - Yahoo! News[/url]

12thMan 12-10-2009 09:32 AM

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I tried to take off my partisan hat and just listen without bias. It was a very sober and poignant speech. Out the gate, Obama acknowledged that his accomplishments were slight at this point in his presidency and gave a nod to some of the previous recipients of the Nobel Prize.

I was particularly captivated by the fact that he didn't shy away from his decision to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan and went on to make, on some level, a moral argument for war itself. He was blunt in stating that America has bled and fought for peace like no other nation. How war is sometimes neccessary, but never glorious. He acknowledged both Republican presidents (Nixon, Reagan) and Democrats in their respective efforts to balance the need for human rights, diplomacy, and weilding military power when needed.

All in all, even President Obama's harshest critics will find plenty in this speech that would make one proud to be American.

firstdown 12-10-2009 10:26 AM

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I liked the looks of the people in the audience as he was making a speech for the Noble Peace Prize and all he talked about was war. I was getting ready for work and laughing so hard at the look on their faces my wife finally came into our bed room to see what was so funny. They had that look that said "Why The Hell Did We Nominate Him".

CRedskinsRule 12-10-2009 11:23 AM

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[quote=12thMan;637528]I tried to take off my partisan hat and just listen without bias. It was a very sober and poignant speech. Out the gate, Obama acknowledged that his accomplishments were slight at this point in his presidency and gave a nod to some of the previous recipients of the Nobel Prize.

I was particularly captivated by the fact that he didn't shy away from his decision to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan and went on to make, on some level, a moral argument for war itself. He was blunt in stating that America has bled and fought for peace like no other nation. How war is sometimes neccessary, but never glorious. He acknowledged both Republican presidents (Nixon, Reagan) and Democrats in their respective efforts to balance the need for human rights, diplomacy, and weilding military power when needed.

All in all, even President Obama's harshest critics will find plenty in this speech that would make one proud to be American.[/quote]

I was impressed by his defense and support of America's past. I had low expectations, as I fully expected a pacifist appeasing message, but thought he really made good points.

Trample the Elderly 12-10-2009 11:25 AM

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Yeah whatever. :sleep:

Where are all of those green-jobs they've been promising us since 2006?

firstdown 12-10-2009 12:33 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;637594]Yeah whatever. :sleep:

Where are all of those green-jobs they've been promising us since 2006?[/quote]
I have a green job you don't?

mlmdub130 12-10-2009 12:48 PM

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wasn't he nominated for the award like 10 days after he was elected or in office?

what a joke

Trample the Elderly 12-10-2009 12:50 PM

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[quote=firstdown;637621]I have a green job you don't?[/quote]

I work at a Bank, but money is electronic these days, not green.

dmek25 12-10-2009 01:01 PM

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too many haters. please read the speech

dmek25 12-10-2009 01:03 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;637628][B]I work at a Bank[/B], but money is electronic these days, not green.[/quote]
i guess you owe the president then for saving your job?

firstdown 12-10-2009 01:04 PM

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Advance this to about 1:30 into his speech and look at their faces. The first blond hair lady they show looks like she just threw up in her mouth.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/10/obama.peace.prize/index.html]War sometimes justified, Obama says in Nobel Peace Prize speech - CNN.com[/url]

Monkeydad 12-10-2009 01:05 PM

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^ HAHA


Listen to the reverb too...it's like he's trying to be God again.

Monkeydad 12-10-2009 01:06 PM

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[quote=mlmdub130;637626]wasn't he nominated for the award like 10 days after he was elected or in office?

what a joke[/quote]

Yep, but considering he had only 123 days of Senate experience when he started campaigning for President, it's par for the course with him.

SmootSmack 12-10-2009 01:17 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637635]too many haters. please read the speech[/quote]

You can already predict without even reading any posts what kind of comments different posters here would have.

saden1 12-10-2009 01:24 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;637650]You can already predict without even reading any posts what kind of comments different posters here would have.[/quote]

On that note it must be said that Lord Obama is the greatest human being that has ever lived in the history of all time and space. Well deserved award and amazing speech.

There, I said it!

SmootSmack 12-10-2009 01:30 PM

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[quote=saden1;637654]On that note it must be said that Lord Obama is the greatest human being that has ever lived in the history of all time and space. Well deserved award and amazing speech.

There, I said it![/quote]

My sources tell me...

Could you post a YouTube link of you writing your post?

mlmdub130 12-10-2009 01:31 PM

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[quote=saden1;637654]On that note it must be said that Lord Obama is the greatest human being that has ever lived in the history of all time and space. Well deserved award and amazing speech.

There, I said it![/quote]

well said :laughing2

saden1 12-10-2009 01:39 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;637660]My sources tell me...

Could you post a YouTube link of you writing your post?[/quote]

Sure:
[YT]ZBj_vcM6KdY[/YT]

FRPLG 12-10-2009 01:55 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637635]too many haters. please read the speech[/quote]

Where are the haters?

FRPLG 12-10-2009 01:57 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;637650]You can already predict without even reading any posts what kind of comments different posters here would have.[/quote]

yes like [quote]too many haters. please read the speech[/quote]

when there hadn't been any one hating on the speech yet. funny.

Trample the Elderly 12-10-2009 02:02 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637636]i guess you owe the president then for saving your job?[/quote]

You guessed wrong bucky! My bank is and has been making a profit throughout this economic downturn. Even if we had taken a bailout, how is it the President (Bush or Obama) gets credit? The last time I checked, Congress passed the bailouts and it was the taxpayer's money.

dmek25 12-10-2009 02:44 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;637681]yes like

[B]when there hadn't been any one hating on the speech yet[/B]. funny.[/quote]
exactly my point Einstein. everyone talking about green jobs, and what ever else, when this thread is about a speech

Trample the Elderly 12-10-2009 02:55 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637713]exactly my point Einstein. everyone talking about green jobs, and what ever else, when this thread is about a speech[/quote]

Yeah, but few people give a damn about his speech. Jobs are another thing!

firstdown 12-10-2009 03:11 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637635]too many haters. please read the speech[/quote]

I read some of it and what the heck is he talking about in this quote about Regan.

Obama said "Ronald Reagan's efforts on arms control and embrace of perestroika not only improved relations with the Soviet Union, but empowered dissidents throughout Eastern Europe."

Arms control with the Soviet Union? I thought it was an arms race and we just out spent them until they gave up and went broke and when did he embrace Perestroika? Maybe I'm missing something here.

dmek25 12-10-2009 03:13 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;637719]Yeah, but few people give a damn about his speech. [B]Jobs are another thing[/B]![/quote]
why do you care? you have already said you are working, and made it quite clear you are out for #1 only

Trample the Elderly 12-10-2009 03:28 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637729]why do you care? you have already said you are working, and made it quite clear you are out for #1 only[/quote]

It's like dating. The best time to find a girlfriend is when you already have one. :pimp:

The same goes with jobs.

DynamiteRave 12-10-2009 03:37 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;637739]It's like dating. [B]The best time to find a girlfriend is when you already have one[/B]. :pimp:

The same goes with jobs.[/quote]

Truer words have never been spoken.

I wish I could grab a beer with you. Something tells me you have some ridiculous life stories.

And who cares about the Peace Prize, aren't there more important things to talk about... Like Tiger Woods? :laughing2

firstdown 12-10-2009 03:39 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;637744]Truer words have never been spoken.

I wish I could grab a beer with you. Something tells me you have some ridiculous life stories.

And who cares about the Peace Prize, aren't there more important things to talk about... Like Tiger Woods? :laughing2[/quote]
Trample sounds like she is asking you out. Balls in your court now.

MTK 12-10-2009 03:41 PM

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[quote=12thMan;637528]I tried to take off my partisan hat and just listen without bias. It was a very sober and poignant speech. Out the gate, Obama acknowledged that his accomplishments were slight at this point in his presidency and gave a nod to some of the previous recipients of the Nobel Prize.

I was particularly captivated by the fact that he didn't shy away from his decision to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan and went on to make, on some level, a moral argument for war itself. He was blunt in stating that America has bled and fought for peace like no other nation. How war is sometimes neccessary, but never glorious. He acknowledged both Republican presidents (Nixon, Reagan) and Democrats in their respective efforts to balance the need for human rights, diplomacy, and weilding military power when needed.

All in all, even President Obama's harshest critics will find plenty in this speech that would make one proud to be American.[/quote]

Good try. Unfortunately this is about as good as it gets for this crew.

firstdown 12-10-2009 04:01 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;637747]Good try. Unfortunately this is about as good as it gets for this crew.[/quote]

You don't find it one bit funny last week he was sending 30,000 troops to fight a war (thats not the funny part) and the next week he is getting the Peace Prize?

SmootSmack 12-10-2009 04:07 PM

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[quote=firstdown;637746]Trample sounds like she is asking you out. Balls in your court now.[/quote]

12th Man is jealous

dmek25 12-10-2009 04:08 PM

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i don't. i am totally against sending any more troops anywhere. the middle east is a mess. always has been, always will be. unless they have a drastic change on philosophy( which i highly doubt) and as far as the award, it was awarded long before this decision was made. should he have won it? that's water under the bridge

dmek25 12-10-2009 04:08 PM

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if only hessy could see him now:)

firstdown 12-10-2009 04:19 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637761]i don't. i am totally against sending any more troops anywhere. the middle east is a mess. always has been, always will be. unless they have a drastic change on philosophy( which i highly doubt) and as far as the award, it was awarded log before this decision was made. should he have won it? that's water under the bridge[/quote]

Its the irony of the whole thing thats funny.

Trample the Elderly 12-10-2009 04:23 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;637744]Truer words have never been spoken.

I wish I could grab a beer with you. Something tells me you have some ridiculous life stories.

And who cares about the Peace Prize, aren't there more important things to talk about... Like Tiger Woods? :laughing2[/quote]

Someone told me he's changing his name to Cheetah Woods. Some "so-called' celebrity gets caught screwing around. Who cares?

As for the beer, PM sent.

firstdown 12-10-2009 04:25 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;637760]12th Man is jealous[/quote]

Trample might be shy Rave but we will work on him and you guys are not that far from each other. Maybe someone can donate some skins tickets for you guys to go to a game.

Trample the Elderly 12-10-2009 04:31 PM

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[quote=dmek25;637761]i don't. i am totally against sending any more troops anywhere. the middle east is a mess. always has been, always will be. unless they have a drastic change on philosophy( which i highly doubt) and as far as the award, it was awarded log before this decision was made. should he have won it? that's water under the bridge[/quote]

It's not a big deal anymore. They gave the Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat. How do you give a "Peace Prize" to the head of the PLO?

12thMan 12-10-2009 04:57 PM

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Lol Why does my name always come up when it comes to Hessy. Besides, her and Schneed had a far more interesting "interaction".

As far as DRave goes, I stalk her campus everyday with my Fred Davis jersey.

SmootSmack 12-10-2009 05:09 PM

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[quote=12thMan;637789][B]Lol Why does my name always come up when it comes to Hessy. [/B]Besides, her and Schneed had a far more interesting "interaction".

As far as DRave goes, I stalk her campus everyday with my Fred Davis jersey.[/quote]

LOL...yeah we have no clue ;)

firstdown 12-10-2009 05:11 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;637769]Someone told me he's changing his name to Cheetah Woods. Some "so-called' celebrity gets caught screwing around. Who cares?

As for the beer, PM sent.[/quote]

Hey no PM's here but for exchanging personal info like phone # etc... We want to watch this go down and heck why not let someone tag along with a camera like on "Blind Date".


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