Is Brett Favre starting a trend for old QB's?
 

Watching Brett's play at the beginning of last season and this season really got me thinking.

Is Brett changing the moniker of "It's a young man's game"?

I think he is showing that age is nothing if you can play well and you take care of yourself. Would love to see other greybeards like Garcia, Collins, and Kurt Warner continue playing as long as they are able to....

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No. I think Favre is the exception and will not become the rule... although i'd love to see Manning have such a long career.

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QB is a position that takes years to master, so it's certainly not uncommon for the 30+ crowd to be the top QBs in the game. However, Favre is a bit of a freak to be playing this well at age 40.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;640140]No. I think Favre is the exception and will not become the rule... although i'd love to see Manning have such a long career.[/quote]

[quote=Mattyk72;640141]QB is a position that takes years to master, so it's certainly not uncommon for the 30+ crowd to be the top QBs in the game. However, Favre is a bit of a freak to be playing this well at age 40.[/quote]

Top 10 QBs in 2009 to date (based on Rating) are as follows:
Brees (30), Favre (40), Rivers (28), Rodgers (26), P. Manning (33), Schaub (28), Roethlisburger (27), Romo (29), McNabb (33), Brady (32).

Aside from Favre and Warner (38), the trend really doesn't exist and they are certainly exceptions to the rule. What is also helping these 2 old farts are offensive lines (Favre's been sacked 27 times, Warner 20) and the young (sub-30 years old) receivers these guys are throwing to (Favre has Berrian, Harvin, Rice; Warner has Fitzgerald, Boldin, Breaston).

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i cant fathom another Q-back lasting as long as Favre. and to have that many consecutive starts, especially the way they get hit....

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I could see P. Manning doing it personally. I dont know about Brady or the other top guys in the league right now. But Peyton could be around another 8 years give or take one or two. He seems to really love the game and hasn't had any major injuries.

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Favre will probably prove to be the exception rather than something we could look to see continue as a trend.

I only know of one other QB that played at 40 and beyond, that was George Blanda. He spent his latest years as a FG kicker, but he also served as back-up QB to D. Lamonica.

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Dave Kreig, Vinny Testaverde, Warren Moon, Trent Green...all a few of the older QBs who came before Favre.

He's not starting a trend, he's just one of many who have done the same. Now Brett is competing at a much higher level at the older age, but he's not the first QB to play well into his 40s.

I think Frank Tarkenton may be one of the "founders" of the feat.

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What annoys me most about Favre are

1.) The fact that he doesn't get retested to keep his roster status

2) He doesn't get punished for intentional grounding because "of his age".

3) He thinks people owe him something.....

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[quote=SmootSmack;640194]What annoys me most about Favre are

1.) The fact that he doesn't get retested to keep his roster status

2) He doesn't get punished for intentional grounding because "of his age".

3) He thinks people owe him something.....[/quote]

Those damn old folks

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[quote=Buster;640179]Dave Kreig, Vinny Testaverde, Warren Moon, Trent Green...all a few of the older QBs who came before Favre.

He's not starting a trend, he's just one of many who have done the same. Now Brett is competing at a much higher level at the older age, but he's not the first QB to play well into his 40s.

I think Frank Tarkenton may be one of the "founders" of the feat.[/quote]

I had actually forgotten about Testaverde. He's the oldest QB to ever start and win a game in NFL history. Moon, Kreig are slightly younger, Green is only 39 now. Tarkenton, Blanda and Testaverde all share the distinction of being the oldest QB's to play in the NFL.

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[quote=BDBohnzie;640147]Top 10 QBs in 2009 to date (based on Rating) are as follows:
Brees (30), Favre (40), Rivers (28), Rodgers (26), P. Manning (33), Schaub (28), Roethlisburger (27), Romo (29), McNabb (33), Brady (32).

Aside from Favre and Warner (38), the trend really doesn't exist and they are certainly exceptions to the rule. What is also helping these 2 old farts are offensive lines (Favre's been sacked 27 times, Warner 20) and the young (sub-30 years old) receivers these guys are throwing to (Favre has Berrian, Harvin, Rice; Warner has Fitzgerald, Boldin, Breaston).[/quote]

hate to turn this into a JC thread but those ages really stand out since JC turns 28 this year so he could really be right at the turning point, and he does seem to be playing like the light is turning on. It would be a shame to give up on him (even I had done as much by the 6th game) just when - age wise- he "gets it"

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I saw the comments about my other post talking about old people.

Is it really so wrong to wish for fairness when it comes to the laws regarding older people?

for example...if i lose control of my car and hit and kill a pedestrian, i am going to face charges and/or lose my license. But if I am 85 and do the same thing, nobody does anything to me....why is that fair?

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Joe Ferguson played at age 40 as well.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;640260]I saw the comments about my other post talking about old people.

Is it really so wrong to wish for fairness when it comes to the laws regarding older people?

for example...if i lose control of my car and hit and kill a pedestrian, i am going to face charges and/or lose my license. But if I am 85 and do the same thing, nobody does anything to me....why is that fair?[/quote]

Sorry about your friend. And I don't know all the facts on it so I won't speculate. But your wrong in saying that an elderly person would not face any repercussions. Your one incident does not reflect the norm

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[quote=SmootSmack;640194]What annoys me most about Favre are

1.) The fact that he doesn't get retested to keep his roster status

2) [B]He doesn't get punished for intentional grounding[/B] because "of his age".

3) He thinks people owe him something.....[/quote]

do you dislike brady? because he gets away with everything

and do you realy think he thinks people owe him something, i never really picked that up

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[quote=mlmdub130;640290]do you dislike brady? because he gets away with everything

and do you realy think he thinks people owe him something, i never really picked that up[/quote]

LOL. No, I was just making the connection between SolidSnake rooting for the old man on the football field and [url=http://www.thewarpath.net/639811-post16.html]this[/url]

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^gotcha

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[QUOTE]A careless left turn by an elderly driver left one man dead this week in a car accident Stevens City, Virginia. Charles Clevenger, and 88-year-old resident of Stevens City, was making a left turn into his driveway off of Tasker Road but did not see an oncoming car approaching that was driven by 25-year-old Josh Doll of Winchester, VA. The accident occurred at about 5:20 p.m. on Wednesday evening.

Doll, who was driving a Jeep without a top and who was not wearing a seatbelt, was ejected from his vehicle and his body was then pinned under Clevenger's Taurus. Stephens City Volunteer Fire and Rescue Assistant Chief John Jones explained that a Medevac helicopter was initially called to the scene but was then told to turn back when rescuers confirmed that Doll had died at the scene of the rollover accident.

As investigators from the Virginia State Police reconstructed the scene, skid marks indicated that Doll attempted to stop his southbound vehicle before striking the vehicle headed northbound. Clevenger was not hurt in the accident and watched the rescue team work from a lawn chair in his front yard. Clevenger was described by eyewitnesses as having no response. It took about an hour to extract Doll's body from the scene of the rollover accident, as the two cars involved in the deadly crash were entangled. [/QUOTE]

thats from an article in May of this year, when Josh died. Smoot was asking about the details...

Charles Clevenger was a stephens city man that many people knew. He had lost his license years ago, and had to be on full-time oxygen. No one knew why he decided to drive that day, but it was believed he was headed to the bowman library. (Allegedly clevenger hadn't drove in years)

A good friend of mine watched the whole accident unfold from her front yard. Clevenger got out of his car, walked over and sat down in a lawn chair, with Josh's body still pinned underneath his car. To our knowledge, he has never issued an apology, or been the least bit remorseful over what happened. Josh left behind a loving wife, and was expecting their first child..

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Truly deeply sorry for your loss sir. It sounds horrific, and immensely painful for you, the wife, and first child.

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Its ok...i was still a member over at extreme skins when it happened, and we grieved him there because alot of the members knew him. I had known Josh since elementary school, and played in the worship band at our church together before i stopped going/backsliding in 2007. It had me really hating old people as a whole for a long time...but i'm over it now and am only slightly jaded when things like this happen today...i know it sounds like discrimination when i say the laws need to get tougher when you get older, but here in VA we dont really have any kind of testing to see if people are medically/physically sound enough to keep their license...


related info: another horrible example of someone who should have been off the road years ago
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Russell_Weller]George Russell Weller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Weller was who was behind the "farmer's market massacre" that left numerous people dead and dozens injured. This guy never went to jail because he was "too old"....

That has nothing to do with josh, but i wanted members to be able to see kind of where i am coming from when i say that we need some kind of checking system....

[B]apologies to mods if this is getting it too off topic, i would make a new thread, but i dont want it to be in bad taste or just taking up space on the board, but i wanted people to see where i was coming from[/B]

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[quote=SolidSnake84;640453]thats from an article in May of this year, when Josh died. Smoot was asking about the details...

Charles Clevenger was a stephens city man that many people knew. He had lost his license years ago, and had to be on full-time oxygen. No one knew why he decided to drive that day, but it was believed he was headed to the bowman library. (Allegedly clevenger hadn't drove in years)

A good friend of mine watched the whole accident unfold from her front yard. Clevenger got out of his car, walked over and sat down in a lawn chair, with Josh's body still pinned underneath his car. To our knowledge, he has never issued an apology, or been the least bit remorseful over what happened. Josh left behind a loving wife, and was expecting their first child..[/quote]

Did the old guy have dementia?

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I agree completely about testing older folks Snake. My mother has alzheimers and in the early stages she still drove. I went with her to the post office one time and when she pulled out onto the road she went straight across into the oncoming lane and proceeded like she was in the correct lane. Of course I was freaking out a little and had a long talk with my dad. She no longer drove after that. There should be testing after a certain age and doctors should be allowed to contact DMV about patients who have been diagnosed with dementia.

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[quote=Mattyk72;640464]Did the old guy have dementia?[/quote]

they didnt say, but one could guess that at 88, he could certainly have been in the early stages. The baffling thing is that much like Russell Weller, Clevenger showed no remorse and seemed to be almost dumbfounded at what happened.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;640474]they didnt say, but one could guess that at 88, he could certainly have been in the early stages. The baffling thing is that much like Russell Weller, Clevenger showed no remorse and seemed to be almost dumbfounded at what happened.[/quote]

Hell, at 88 he could be full blown out of his head.

Just from the sound of things how he didn't show remorse and didn't seem to realize what he did, seems an awful lot like dementia.