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SmootSmack 12-22-2009 12:21 AM

10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Ok so you're Bruce Allen and you've been tasked with cutting 10 guys right away, regardless of salary cap ramifications.

Who do you cut? Here's the catch. Each player must have started at least one game this year.

Ruhskins 12-22-2009 12:22 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=SmootSmack;644266]Ok so you're Bruce Allen and you've been tasked with cutting 10 guys right away, regardless of salary cap ramifications.

Who do you cut? Here's the catch. Each player must have started at least one game this year.[/quote]

Can we add coaches in here? LOL.

Here are my ten:
- ARE
- Heyer
- CP
- Rabach
- Smoot (sorry)
- Griff (always injured)
- Randy Thomas (injury)
- Malcolm Kelly (hasn't started but still)
- Samuels (I would force him to retire before he kills himself or gets parlyzed for life)
- I can't think of a tenth...maybe Landry or Rogers?

mlmdub130 12-22-2009 12:24 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
kelly
are
heyer
daniels
rogers

10 is alot

portis
betts
rock
smoot
and i guess moss but i wouldn't mind keeping him

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 12:27 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Clinton Portis
Mike Sellers
Ladell Betts
Santana Moss
(Casey Rabach -- contract expiration)
Mike Williams
Will Montgomery
Derrick Dockery
Phillip Daniels
Rocky McIntosh
DeAngelo Hall
Fred Smoot
Kareem Moore (can we consider him a starter in any of the games?)

Goodbye trash.

Skins4L 12-22-2009 12:28 AM

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^
i think your losing your mind. So should we hire some CFL players to fill in dude or what? Your list is blasphemy.

Smoot
Betts
Cartwright
Kelly
Heyer

...and im missing some that shouldnt be named.

Id leave it at that. TEN IS ALOT brotha..

And i wouldnt drop Rogers. CB depth has always been a concern year after year. D Hall? Rocky? Santana?

wilsowilso 12-22-2009 12:30 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
I think Wilson is 98% worthless.

That really pains WilsoWilso to say that.

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 12:31 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=wilsowilso;644283]I think Wilson is 98% worthless.

That really pains WilsoWilso to say that.[/quote]I actually think he's been a rare bright spot this year. I think we'd be a better defense with him at WLB than with McIntosh there.

GMScud 12-22-2009 12:31 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Stephon Heyer
Casey Rabach
Fred Smoot
Philip Daniles
Clinton Portis
Carlos Rogers
Randle El
Randy Thomas
Ladell Betts
Mike Williams

mlmdub130 12-22-2009 12:32 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=Ruhskins;644270]Can we add coaches in here? LOL.

Here are my ten:
- ARE
- Heyer
- CP
- Rabach
- Smoot (sorry)
- Griff (always injured)
- [B]Randy Thomas (injury)[/B]
- Malcolm Kelly (hasn't started but still)
- [B]Samuels (I would force him to retire before he kills himself or gets parlyzed for life)[/B]- I can't think of a tenth...maybe Landry or Rogers?[/quote]

i pretty much considered them gone when i did my list i would rather both of them retire than be cut imo, both good redskins had a good run

jamf 12-22-2009 12:32 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
D.Hall - We need good people who are going to self destruct...
Kelly
Sellers
Heyer
Betts
Rabach
Moore
Phillip Daniels
ARE
Haynesworth - Not realistic but I hate him...
Is AH the softest player ever? He stubs a toe and gets taken off on a stretcher. I'm tired of seeing him on the sidelines talking to a trainer.

SFREDSKIN 12-22-2009 12:32 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Samuels- Retires Doesn't count
R.Thomas
Yoder
Wynn
Daniels
Smoot
Collins
ARE
Betts
Hall
Griffin

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 12:32 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=Skins4L;644280]^
i think your losing your mind. So should we hire some CFL players to fill in dude or what? Your list is blasphemy.[/quote]Don't get ahead of ourselves. Getting half decent talent to replace these guys is next weeks lesson.

wilsowilso 12-22-2009 12:33 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
I also think Rocky McIntosh is a bum.

ARE, FIVE LINEMEN, BETTS

and ARE again just for good measure. ARE needs to be cut twice.

Make the cut. Announce it again the next day.

mlmdub130 12-22-2009 12:35 AM

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[quote=wilsowilso;644292]I also think Rocky McIntosh is a bum.

ARE, FIVE LINEMEN, BETTS

and ARE again just for good measure. ARE needs to be cut twice.

Make the cut. Announce it again the next day.[/quote]

:lol:

whats with all the d hall hate??? he has been our best db this year who would we use next year tryon and barnes

Ruhskins 12-22-2009 12:38 AM

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[quote=mlmdub130;644293]:lol:

whats with all the d hall hate??? he has been our best db this year who would we use next year tryon and barnes[/quote]

Not to mention the only guy who defended a pass tonight...well two I think.

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 12:38 AM

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[quote=mlmdub130;644293]:lol:

whats with all the d hall hate??? he has been our best db this year who would we use next year tryon and barnes[/quote]Works for me.

I don't think it's hate for DHall, it's just about taking out the players who don't offer anything. There's nothing wrong with Portis either, but he doesn't really offer anything to us except a body if we keep him.

And if we cut Moss, we give up our best punt returner, but again, that's not hate for him, it's freeing up a roster spot to try to find the next Steve Smith or something.

SmootSmack 12-22-2009 12:38 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Chris Samuels
Randy Thomas (hate to see other go, but it's time)
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Fred Smoot (hurts me more than it hurts him)
Todd Collins (started a half, I'm counting it)
Phillip Daniels (coaching staff candidate?)
Antwaan Randle El (wouldn't cut Santana at this point, but he drops to 3rd on my depth chart)
Stephon Heyer (can't even trust that he'd be a serviceable backup at this point)
Byron Westbrook (I think he started once, if nothing else he has started on special teams as the up back)

Dirtbag59 12-22-2009 12:40 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[LIST=1][*]S. Moss[*]C. Samuals[*]C. Portis[*]L. Landry[*]ARE[*]S. Heyer[*]L. Betts[*]F. Smoot[*]B. Westbrook[*]P. Daniels[/LIST]

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 12:40 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=SmootSmack;644297]Chris Samuels
Randy Thomas (hate to see other go, but it's time)
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Fred Smoot (hurts me more than it hurts him)
[B]Todd Collins (started a half, I'm counting it)[/B]
Phillip Daniels (coaching staff candidate?)
Antwaan Randle El (wouldn't cut Santana at this point, but he drops to 3rd on my depth chart)
Stephon Heyer (can't even trust that he'd be a serviceable backup at this point)
Byron Westbrook (I think he started once, if nothing else he has started on special teams as the up back)[/quote]Boo. You can't break your own rule!

artmonkforhallofamein07 12-22-2009 12:40 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
I would not cut Rodgers because he is a restricted FA at the end of the year. We can get something for him. I would get rid of him though.

I keep Heyer, Jones, Williams, Dockery, Rinehart, Dump the rest.

ARE, Clinton Portis

I keep Kelly, not ready to give up just yet. May go in training camp. Bring in a couple of guys to fit the new coaches system. At least to help the current players learn and compete with a competent WR that has ran the system.

I don't know about all those guys GTripp. Alot of players on that list.

Need to move Landry back to SS so Horton or Doughty would have to go.

FS need to be addressed. So We have Moore there right now.

Smoot gone.

artmonkforhallofamein07 12-22-2009 12:41 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Second Collins getting the boot to the head!

Ruhskins 12-22-2009 12:42 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;644300]I would not cut Rodgers because he is a restricted FA at the end of the year. We can get something for him. I would get rid of him though.

[B][SIZE="4"]I keep Heyer[/SIZE][/B], Jones, Williams, Dockery, Rinehart, Dump the rest.

ARE, Clinton Portis

I keep Kelly, not ready to give up just yet. May go in training camp. Bring in a couple of guys to fit the new coaches system. At least to help the current players learn and compete with a competent WR that has ran the system.

I don't know about all those guys GTripp. Alot of players on that list.

Need to move Landry back to SS so Horton or Doughty would have to go.

FS need to be addressed. So We have Moore there right now.

Smoot gone.[/quote]

What??!!

mlmdub130 12-22-2009 12:42 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=SmootSmack;644297]Chris Samuels
Randy Thomas (hate to see other go, but it's time)
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Fred Smoot (hurts me more than it hurts him)
[B]Todd Collins (started a half, I'm counting it)[/B]
Phillip Daniels (coaching staff candidate?)
Antwaan Randle El (wouldn't cut Santana at this point, but he drops to 3rd on my depth chart)
Stephon Heyer (can't even trust that he'd be a serviceable backup at this point)
[B]Byron Westbrook (I think he started once, if nothing else he has started on special teams as the up back[/B])[/quote]

thats a cop out you can't even come up with ten, westbrook barely started one game and collins

wilsowilso 12-22-2009 12:43 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
As much as I would like to cut Landry that is not possible. He has value.

Maybe somebody will give us something unexpected for that fool.

Dude is the dumbest player in the league.

SmootSmack 12-22-2009 12:43 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=GTripp0012;644299]Boo. You can't break your own rule![/quote]

Of course I can :)

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 12:44 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=SmootSmack;644307]Of course I can :)[/quote]Well, then I cut Curtis Gatewood. I'll also re-sign him to be our savior.

artmonkforhallofamein07 12-22-2009 12:44 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Does not mean the guy is going to start. We need to have some depth. We can't ufortunatley fire them all can we?

SmootSmack 12-22-2009 12:44 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=mlmdub130;644305]thats a cop out you can't even come up with ten, westbrook barely started one game and collins[/quote]

Tough crowd. Ok, well then I'd cut Todd Yoder and Cornelius Griffin

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 12:45 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
I didn't put Samuels or Thomas on there because I'd love to have them on the team next year, but frankly, it looks like they are both probable retirements at this point.

SmootSmack 12-22-2009 12:46 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=GTripp0012;644308]Well, then I cut Curtis Gatewood. I'll also re-sign him to be our savior.[/quote]

I can break the rules, you can't

sportscurmudgeon 12-22-2009 12:46 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Wow! Only 10...?

Heyer, Montgomery, E. Williams, Robinson, Batiste,

Randle-El, Portis or Betts (but not both of them)

D. Hall, Smoot or Moore (but not both of them), Wynn,

Ruhskins 12-22-2009 12:47 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=GTripp0012;644308]Well, then I cut Curtis Gatewood. I'll also re-sign him to be our savior.[/quote]

I'd cut Armstrong. LOL.

SmootSmack 12-22-2009 12:47 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
A little late to the Batiste party

Dirtbag59 12-22-2009 12:48 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
God, looking at the release fees it's easy to see that Vinny did exactly what he did in San Francisco, basically leaving a team in cap hell. Samuels is going to cost us $7 mil against the cap.

KLHJ2 12-22-2009 12:51 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=GMScud;644286]Stephon Heyer
Casey Rabach
Fred Smoot
Philip Daniles
Clinton Portis
Carlos Rogers
Randle El
Randy Thomas
Ladell Betts
Mike Williams[/quote]

I am with you except for Rogers, I would leave the D in tact and go for someone like Levi Jones.

Ruhskins 12-22-2009 12:51 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;644316]God, looking at the release fees it's easy to see that Vinny did exactly what he did in San Francisco, basically leaving a team in cap hell. Samuels is going to cost us $7 mil against the cap.[/quote]

To the cap gurus, would this happen if he were to retire?

Monkeydad 12-22-2009 12:52 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Randel El
Landry
Heyer
Collins
Rabach - STILL MESSING UP SHOTGUN SNAPS TONIGHT!!! ARGH!

^That's all I really ask for.

FRPLG 12-22-2009 12:57 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
Wow...so many options.

Dumb players gone...

Landry
Hall
McIntosh

Worthless players gone...

Montgomery
Heyer
Rabach
Sellers
Griffin

Overpaid players gone...

ARE
Portis

SUNRA 12-22-2009 01:15 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
First give Jim Zorn an early christmas present. A pink slip tonight. He's a distraction.
Then Mr. Allen would tell these players thank you but your services are no longer required.

1.Antwaan Randle El
2.Fred Smoot
3.Carlos Rodgers
4.Clinton Portis
5.Casey Rabach
6.Randy Thomas
7.Malcolm Kelly
8.Stephon Heyer
9.Santana Moss
10.Ladell Betts

Dirtbag59 12-22-2009 01:18 AM

Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call
 
[quote=Ruhskins;644318]To the cap gurus, would this happen if he were to retire?[/quote]

Someone needs to answer this. Same question as well with Randy Thomas.


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