Dallas Game Protests
 

Does anyone know what ever happened with the protests that Gibbs filed with the league after the Dallas game regarding the two bad calls? Just curious.

Nothing... what were they supposed to do? Reverse the outcome of the game and give us the win? HAHAHAHAHA. Ahem.

Other than them admitting they blew the calls, nothing ever comes of it.

[QUOTE=EEich]Nothing... what were they supposed to do? Reverse the outcome of the game and give us the win? HAHAHAHAHA. Ahem.[/QUOTE]
Look, smartass, I'm aware that they wouldn't reverse the outcome of the game. I was just wondering if they ever issued a statement, which is what they typically do in response to protests.

Does it really matter to you that they admitted they were wrong? You and I know they were bad calls... so what?

[QUOTE=JudgeJebus]Look, smartass, I'm aware that they wouldn't reverse the outcome of the game. I was just wondering if they ever issued a statement, which is what they typically do in response to protests.[/QUOTE]

This is a great thread. I love the drama. We got us some real Redskin fans here.

Easy now boys, save it for the field on Sunday!

Well, since no one else sees fit two give you a direct answer, I will.

Yes, the NFL did respond (I think it was the very next day). The admitted that both calls were incorrect - their form of an apology. I don't remember which officiating crew it was, but I sure hope Gibbs is doing everything he can to keep that crew away from any future Redskins games. Those call were so obvious and so bad, it really looked suspicious.

[QUOTE=Hogskin]Well, since no one else sees fit two give you a direct answer, I will.

Yes, the NFL did respond (I think it was the very next day). The admitted that both calls were incorrect - their form of an apology. I don't remember which officiating crew it was, but I sure hope Gibbs is doing everything he can to keep that crew away from any future Redskins games. Those call were so obvious and so bad, it really looked suspicious.[/QUOTE]


HG if we really want the inside scoop why don't we just ask the man himself, Sundra, I mean coach Gibb's? :D

[QUOTE=Hogskin]Well, since no one else sees fit two give you a direct answer, I will.

Yes, the NFL did respond (I think it was the very next day). The admitted that both calls were incorrect - their form of an apology. I don't remember which officiating crew it was, but I sure hope Gibbs is doing everything he can to keep that crew away from any future Redskins games. Those call were so obvious and so bad, it really looked suspicious.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Hogskin. That's all I was wondering.

[QUOTE=EEich]Does it really matter to you that they admitted they were wrong? You and I know they were bad calls... so what?[/QUOTE]
Obviously I care, or else I wouldn't have asked. I agree that this isn't the most pressing issue facing the 'Skins, but it occurred to me that I never heard anything more about it, so I was curious. Silly me, I decided to ask on a Redskins discussion board. What could I have been thinking...

EEich quit being a dick

Are you a closet Cowboy fan in bad mood from thier ass whipping?

I think some of us are still a little grumpy when it comes to that game and those calls.

Sorry JudgeJebus

Bad officiating is a part of football. We have to live with it and I don't think it should be something that we're focusing on four weeks after it happens. We have other more pressing issues. I'm not being a dick... I just think it's a moot point and I find it absurd that we're still talking about it.
Sorry if i offended jebus.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I think some of us are still a little grumpy when it comes to that game and those calls.

Sorry JudgeJebus[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EEich]Bad officiating is a part of football. We have to live with it and I don't think it should be something that we're focusing on four weeks after it happens. We have other more pressing issues. I'm not being a dick... I just think it's a moot point and I find it absurd that we're still talking about it.
Sorry if i offended jebus.[/QUOTE]
No need for either of you to apologize. I'm not easily offended.

EEich, the thing is, if you think this is too trivial a topic to talk about, that's cool. Don't talk about it. Hogskin was happy to answer my question, and we were done.

[QUOTE=wbecker999]EEich quit being a dick

Are you a closet Cowboy fan in bad mood from thier ass whipping?[/QUOTE]
:iamwithst

[QUOTE=offiss]HG if we really want the inside scoop why don't we just ask the man himself, Sundra, I mean coach Gibb's? :D[/QUOTE]

Very funny. What got under Coach Gibb's skin more than the Dallas game, was the warning he received from the Cleveland stadium office during halftime concerning the communication equipment. His argument was they warned him, but didn't fix it until late in the fourth. We led at the half 10-3. The rules state that the game cannot be stopped to fix equipment between a coach and the QB. However, Gibbs argued he couldn't communicate with his staff up in the booth. Take it for what it's worth, but Cleveland has a system in place to prevent losses at home.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]The rules state that the game cannot be stopped to fix equipment between a coach and the QB. However, Gibbs argued he couldn't communicate with his staff up in the booth. Take it for what it's worth, but Cleveland has a system in place to prevent losses at home.[/QUOTE]

1st of all where is this stated in the rule book? Oh I forgot you are a expert in football knowledge.

2nd, we lost the game in Cleveland because of our inept special teams play and the failure of our offense to move the ball. Blaming it on equipment is a poor arguement for a poorly played game. I guess the system didn't work to well this weekend when the Eagles barely won, but they won.

[QUOTE=CRT3]1st of all where is this stated in the rule book? Oh I forgot you are a expert in football knowledge.

2nd, we lost the game in Cleveland because of our inept special teams play and the failure of our offense to move the ball. Blaming it on equipment is a poor arguement for a poorly played game. I guess the system didn't work to well this weekend when the Eagles barely won, but they won.[/QUOTE]

Damn. Don't you watch postgame press conferences when the Redskins lose?
Obviously, you don't, but if you had you would have heard Gibbs state the rules and why the equipment should have been fixed in order for him to communicate with his coaching staff in the booth. With Gibbs bringing to the forefront it exposes the problem. The knowledgable one has spoken.

SUNRA was undoubtedly looking at [URL=http://www.canoe.com/Slam020916/nfl_den2-ap.html]this[/URL] when he wrote that the rules state the game cannot be stopped due to a communication malfunction between the headcoach and the QB

[QUOTE] "The coach-to-quarterback is not subject to the equity rule," NFL spokesman Michael Signora said. "If one team experiences difficulty with the coach-to-quarterback communication, the other club does not have to shut down." [/QUOTE]

However, as SUNRA points out Gibbs was indeed quite [URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7066-2004Oct4.html]upset[/URL] about the malfunction between the booth and the field.

[QUOTE]"To me, that shouldn't be in the NFL. If you're having trouble with communications, fix it," Gibbs said, his voice still tinged with anger. "It shouldn't be, 'Well this stadium has communication problems.' This is the NFL. Don't throw that on us." [/QUOTE]

And in that case, the Browns should not have been [URL=http://www.canoe.com/Slam020916/nfl_den2-ap.html]allowed[/URL] to use their headsets either

[QUOTE]Under rules in the NFL Operations Manual, if one team has trouble communicating from the coaches' booth down to the field, the other team must not use its system. [/QUOTE]

However, while the headset was a nuisance it was part of several issues that day. Not the least of which was a costly fumble by Clinton Portis-along with poor special teams play and an inept offense.

See fellas, it's possible for more than one person to be right. Can't we all get along :D

[QUOTE=smootsmack]SUNRA was undoubtedly looking at [URL=http://www.canoe.com/Slam020916/nfl_den2-ap.html]this[/URL] when he wrote that the rules state the game cannot be stopped due to a communication malfunction between the headcoach and the QB



However, as SUNRA points out Gibbs was indeed quite [URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7066-2004Oct4.html]upset[/URL] about the malfunction between the booth and the field.



And in that case, the Browns should not have been [URL=http://www.canoe.com/Slam020916/nfl_den2-ap.html]allowed[/URL] to use their headsets either



However, while the headset was a nuisance it was part of several issues that day. Not the least of which was a costly fumble by Clinton Portis-along with poor special teams play and an inept offense.

See fellas, it's possible for more than one person to be right. Can't we all get along :D[/QUOTE]

No, Smoot I wasn't looking at the spokesman writings at all. I actually remembered the press conference when Gibbs explained the rules.

CRT, little too snippy, that was a big deal made on all the reskins postgame crap, and i heard the same explanations that SUNRA did, he's more or less right about those rules...

[QUOTE=SUNRA]No, Smoot I wasn't looking at the spokesman writings at all. I actually remembered the press conference when Gibbs explained the rules.[/QUOTE]

As many of us did. I was just trying to back you up with some quotes.

I heard the post game stuff, but where does it state it in the rules. If Coach to booth is not working they are supposed to cease all comunication on both sides, but Coach to QB there is no rule. He had both problems on two series. I am just asking where are you getting your rule info from because I cna not find it online. THE EXACT RULES NOT A STATEMENT BY A COACH.

But concernning a protest here is the exact rule

Rules 101 from the NFL

Protest No Club Protests

The authority and measures provided for in this section (UNFAIR ACTS) do not constitute a protest machinery for NFL clubs to dispute the result of a game. The Commissioner will conduct an investigation under this section only to review an act or occurrence that he deems so unfair that the result of the game in question may be inequitable to one of the participating teams. The Commissioner will not apply his authority under this section when a club registers a complaint concerning judgmental errors or routine errors of omission by game officials. Games involving such complaints will continue to stand as completed.

I am making a issue of this because Sunra keeps on claimming great knowledge over football and that some of us lack his ability. I am trying to talk about facts not falsehoods.

3rd Bad Call
 

[QUOTE=Hogskin]Well, since no one else sees fit two give you a direct answer, I will.

Yes, the NFL did respond (I think it was the very next day). The admitted that both calls were incorrect - their form of an apology. I don't remember which officiating crew it was, but I sure hope Gibbs is doing everything he can to keep that crew away from any future Redskins games. Those call were so obvious and so bad, it really looked suspicious.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I remember the NFL did apologize for those two bad calls. But, I also remember that the referees failed to call a penalty when Roy Williams headbutted Rod Gardner on the last play, which would have given us potential game-winning field goal position. I read the Skins were going to file a complaint, but didn't find out the outcome. Does anyone know what happened? I remember RW getting find for headbutting Coles that same game - but didn't hear anything about the Gardner hit.