10 worst Redskins draft picks of the decade
 

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[QUOTE]10. Durant Brooks – Punter taken with the 2nd pick in the 6th round [168th overall] of the 2008 draft. Brooks was given the job in the preseason due almost entirely to his draft status, not his actual performance. Things got worse in the regular season, as Brooks was last in the NFL in gross and net punting averages. By mid-October, the Redskins had had enough and on the 15th of the month, they signed journeyman Ryan Plackemeier to replace Brooks. Brooks was a complete bust who would have ranked higher on this list if he had been taken in a higher round of the draft.

09. Lloyd Harrison – A defensive back from North Carolina State, Harrison was taken with the 2nd pick in the 3rd round [64th overall] of the 2000 draft. Harrison stuck around with the team for a few years, never earning a starting spot or much playing time with the defense. He was cut in August of 2003, having never made much of a contribution.

08. Chad Rinehart – A guard from Northern Iowa, Rinehart was selected late in the 3rd round [96th overall] in 2008. Despite the Redskins being crippled by injuries in the latter half of 2008, Rinehart never got off the bench and often didn’t make the game day active roster. In a league where 3rd round picks are expected to contribute on special teams at the very least, Rinehart did nothing in his rookie season. In 2009, injuries forced Rinehart into the starting lineup in place of Randy Thomas, but he was soon benched for poor performance. He later made it back into the starting lineup due to still more injuries and poor play by others. However, he suffered a broken fibula on November 22 against the Dallas Cowboys and was placed on injured reserve soon after. After two years, this 3rd rounder looks like nothing more than a mediocre backup lineman.[/QUOTE]

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You have an error in your post. You write that Malcolm Kelly has "decent clocked speed ..." That statement only holds true if you were to add the parenthetical (for a defensive lineman). He ran a 4.75 and 4.68 at his Pro Day. Brian Orakpo ran a 4.7 at the combine.

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For a guy just heading into is third year Malcolm is wayyyy too high on the list (shouldnt be on the at all), especially considering where he was picked and the fact that he basically lost a year due to injury.

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Some of the names on this list seem a bit ridiculous. And I guess it's more of a testament to our lack of quantity of draft picks than the picks we've made that some of these would make the bottom 10.

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That is the good thing about articles like this. They generate discussion and are opinionated.

I read over the list Tom had and I would have made some slight changes. First, Landry would have been in my top 5 because he is awful at tackling and pass coverage, but not my number 1. I would have likely placed Patrick Ramsey number one. Second, as I told Tom, I am not sure I was ready to pull the trigger on Malcolm Kelly, just yet. But production wise, for where he was drafted, it is pretty awful.

I probably would have had FB Manuel White on there as well. Yes, he was a 4th rounder, but what a horrible pick.

I though about Rod Gardner, but the problem with Gardner is, he drew the ire of Redskins fans. But in reality, in all his years here, his lowest catch total was 46, far cry from Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly.

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Well the first thing I would do is caveat this. Like worst picks in the first 3 rounds, or something like that. Because for all the talk of how we never draft linemen we actually drafted several-Reggie Coleman, Kili Lefotu, Jim Molinaro, Mark Wilson, Michael Moore-yet they were all 5th-7th round picks so how much did we really expect from them. Then again-Golston, Montgomery, Moore, Horton, Mitchell, Cartwright-all 5th-7th round picks

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Kelly and Thomas are still around the same place in my mind. It's true that Kelly has accomplished less, but neither has really accomplished anything. We could look back on 2009 as Fred Davis' breakout year, but if this was the breakout for either Thomas or Kelly, they don't have a career. I would place both of them in the top ten, but not the top five for the same reasons.

Rinehart wouldn't be on my list. Rogers wouldn't be on my list. I really don't think I'd even have Ramsey on the list, although you have to get to ten somehow. If it's outcome-based reasoning here, you'd have to consider putting ST on the list, because we didn't get much value out of that pick. Of course, that's not because he was a bust (and neither was Rogers), it's because after we made a pretty good pick, things completely out of the teams control caused him to be off the team after 3.5 years.

Taylor Jacobs should be No 1. Rocky McIntosh would definitely be in my top ten, but closer to Kelly and Thomas than the rest of the list. Durant Brooks can represent the late round picks in the top five, I'm okay with that.

Honestly, Ladell Betts would be in my top five. Second round draft pick who was so valuable that we traded another second rounder along with Champ Bailey to bump him down on the depth chart just two years later. Has had a pretty good career as a backup and part timer since then, but that was a second round selection.

Harrison, Baumann, and Russell all good picks.

And Landry, this is just a bad time to be making a bust list about him. He's an easy target for No. 1 now, and perfectly defensible, but if he plays for us next year, he won't be No. 1 if on this list at all. So I mean, it's an emotional pick. But, it's not like he hasn't earned it.

So Jacobs, Brooks, Russell, McIntosh, Baumann, Harrison, Kelly, Landry, Thomas, and Betts would make up my top ten, I guess.

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Can't argue at all with Landry -- if you go back and read what was said about him pre-draft, he was supposed to be a lock. I'd like to see what he can do with better coaching.

Rod Gardner should have made the list -- 50/50, and the guy couldn't make it anywhere else in the league. Big mistake by Marty.

I'd also include Todd Husak, even though he was a 6th rounder. He had an interesting quote just after being released -- Schottenheimer told him he couldn't make in this league because of his accuracy. Husak responded: "I think that's funny."

Who's laughing now, Todd?

I'd replace Lloyd Harrison with Manuel White, Jr. We passed up Chris Canty for White, when the D-line was an obvious need. Harrison was cut after shining in preseason with two INTs returned for TDs. Marty replaced him with somebody named Donovan Greer, who was also promptly released after getting burned repeatedly.

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Lloyd Harrison got us Morocco Brown (sort of)...so that has to count for something

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^^ How??

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[quote=GTripp0012;648289]Kelly and Thomas are still around the same place in my mind. It's true that Kelly has accomplished less, but neither has really accomplished anything. We could look back on 2009 as Fred Davis' breakout year, but if this was the breakout for either Thomas or Kelly, they don't have a career. I would place both of them in the top ten, but not the top five for the same reasons.

Rinehart wouldn't be on my list. Rogers wouldn't be on my list. I really don't think I'd even have Ramsey on the list, although you have to get to ten somehow. If it's outcome-based reasoning here, you'd have to consider putting ST on the list, because we didn't get much value out of that pick. Of course, that's not because he was a bust (and neither was Rogers), it's because after we made a pretty good pick, things completely out of the teams control caused him to be off the team after 3.5 years.

Taylor Jacobs should be No 1. Rocky McIntosh would definitely be in my top ten, but closer to Kelly and Thomas than the rest of the list. Durant Brooks can represent the late round picks in the top five, I'm okay with that.

Honestly, Ladell Betts would be in my top five. Second round draft pick who was so valuable that we traded another second rounder along with Champ Bailey to bump him down on the depth chart just two years later. Has had a pretty good career as a backup and part timer since then, but that was a second round selection.

Harrison, Baumann, and Russell all good picks.

And Landry, this is just a bad time to be making a bust list about him. He's an easy target for No. 1 now, and perfectly defensible, but if he plays for us next year, he won't be No. 1 if on this list at all. So I mean, it's an emotional pick. But, it's not like he hasn't earned it.

So Jacobs, Brooks, Russell, McIntosh, Baumann, Harrison, Kelly, Landry, Thomas, and Betts would make up my top ten, I guess.[/quote]

I dont understand. What's the deal with McInotsh. Remember, there is NO team in the NFL that has all Pro Bowlers. McInotsh is not a great LB, but he is very solid and is a legit starting linebacker.

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Brown was offered a very, very low paying internship here ten years ago so he wasn't going to be able to take it because on the weekly salary he got he wouldn't be able to afford living the DC area.

But his NC State classmate Lloyd Harrison offered to let Brown stay with him so he could take the internship...and the rest, as they say, is history

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Gardner should be in the top 5.

If Rogers is on the list, why isn't Campbell? We gave up a 1st, 3rd and 4th round pick to get him.

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Taylor Jacobs hands down. Kid has a guy land on his abdomen in a preseason game and he see action in what? One game with maybe one catch over a 4 year period? At least Matthews and Weurffel actually played for us and produced something for the $$$$$$$$$.

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[quote=jamf;648317]Gardner should be in the top 5.

If Rogers is on the list, why isn't Campbell? We gave up a 1st, 3rd and 4th round pick to get him.[/quote]

Haven't you heard, Campbell is going to lead us to the promise land.

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[quote=WaldSkins;648325]Haven't you heard, Campbell is going to lead us to the promise land.[/quote]


By the time a decent line is in place JC will be on the downward slope of his career.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;648327]By the time a decent line is in place JC will be on the downward slope of his career.[/quote]

You mean he could possibly throw even less TD's?

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[quote=WaldSkins;648325]Haven't you heard, Campbell is going to lead us to the promise land.[/quote]

I thought that was Brennan?

But hey, I saw JZ admit that JC probably isn't gonna be the Redskins franchise QB. We're crossing over into the honestly plane now. This is good way to start preparing for the new year. Time to hug it out.

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where did you hear that?

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[quote=jamf;648317]Gardner should be in the top 5.

If Rogers is on the list, why isn't Campbell? We gave up a 1st, 3rd and 4th round pick to get him.[/quote]

I agree. Considering what we gave up for JC and it took him what, 3 years just to get into the game and now 5 years later still makes a lot of the same mistakes he made when he came into the league. He's gotta be up there.

I would also add Gardner & Landry to my list.

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The problems with LaRon Landry are correctable, the problems with these other players not so much. It's ridiculous to call LaRon Landry a bust and even more ridiculous to make him the #1 bust.

dcprosportsreport can do better.

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I though about Rod Gardner, but the problem with Gardner is, he drew the ire of Redskins fans. But in reality, in all his years here, his lowest catch total was 46, far cry from Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly.[/quote]
He also never started less than 14 games for us and we really only had Westbrook for one year and Coles a couple of years later to take some of the balls thrown his way away. So to take people from 2 drafts ago who haven't gotten onto the field that much and to call them busts already is kind of weird. I guess that we're only dealing with the past decade and calling someone a bust drafted past the 3rd doesn't seem right, except in the case of Brooks I suppose.

Still seems like a lot of your picks are personal picks based on who you like and not and count less on field production.

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[quote=GTripp0012;648289]Kelly and Thomas are still around the same place in my mind. It's true that Kelly has accomplished less, but neither has really accomplished anything. We could look back on 2009 as Fred Davis' breakout year, but if this was the breakout for either Thomas or Kelly, they don't have a career. I would place both of them in the top ten, but not the top five for the same reasons.[/quote]
Agreed -- I don't think that this will have ended up being their break out year, unless some new coach sends them packing.

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Rinehart wouldn't be on my list. Rogers wouldn't be on my list. I really don't think I'd even have Ramsey on the list, although you have to get to ten somehow. If it's outcome-based reasoning here, you'd have to consider putting ST on the list, because we didn't get much value out of that pick. Of course, that's not because he was a bust (and neither was Rogers), it's because after we made a pretty good pick, things completely out of the teams control caused him to be off the team after 3.5 years.[/quote]
Kind of the way I feel. Too early to call it, we did draft Rogers high for his production, but I don't think that it's deserved of a "bust" label. He's been a solid corner, yeah we know he can't catch.

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Taylor Jacobs should be No 1. Rocky McIntosh would definitely be in my top ten, but closer to Kelly and Thomas than the rest of the list. Durant Brooks can represent the late round picks in the top five, I'm okay with that.
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I was thinking Rocky too, not that his career is a bust, but just for what he's done for us. He's not a bust in the sense that this will be his last year in the NFL or anything though.

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Honestly, Ladell Betts would be in my top five. Second round draft pick who was so valuable that we traded another second rounder along with Champ Bailey to bump him down on the depth chart just two years later. Has had a pretty good career as a backup and part timer since then, but that was a second round selection.
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I was expecting to see Betts on there too and thought that the dark horse pick would've been Campbell seeing as what we gave up for him.

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Just read up on what Smoot was talking about, don't know how I missed this before.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/morocco-brown.html]Redskins Insider - Morocco Brown[/url]

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Good read tryful. Sounds like he could be a successful GM one day.

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This should tell you all need to know!

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[quote=tryfuhl;648417]Just read up on what Smoot was talking about, don't know how I missed this before.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/morocco-brown.html]Redskins Insider - Morocco Brown[/url][/quote]

Had no idea that Melvin Bratton worked for the Redskins. Go figure.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;648332]I thought that was Brennan?

But hey, I saw JZ admit that JC probably isn't gonna be the Redskins franchise QB. We're crossing over into the honestly plane now. This is good way to start preparing for the new year. Time to hug it out.[/quote]

Whoa whoa guys!!!! What about Patrick Ramsey along with his defensive counterpart LaVar? Man I just hope the Skins can win a Super Bowl before Friends airs for the last time.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;648459]Whoa whoa guys!!!! What about Patrick Ramsey along with his defensive counterpart LaVar? Man I just hope the Skins can win a Super Bowl before Friends airs for the last time.[/quote]


Patrick and Lavar actually play and produced for us. Patrick and that entire QB class of hiss were all flops and didn't live up to the tremendous hype, but he did play and produced half decent results. Lavar was hot or cold, but not a bust. Gardner had some great games for us. Yes he had a lot of drops, but he had some very nice games for us when he was here. Not sure how Taylor Jacobs isn't the hands down winner in this poll. Guy barely played at all. Devin Thomas has already given us more production than Jacobs did. Shoot even Kelly has!!!!!!

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[quote=DynamiteRave;648332]I thought that was Brennan?

But hey, I saw JZ admit that JC probably isn't gonna be the Redskins franchise QB. We're crossing over into the honestly plane now. This is good way to start preparing for the new year. Time to hug it out.[/quote]


Are you being sarcastic Dynamite, or did you really see/hear JZ say that in an article or the radio?

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[quote=GusFrerotte;648469]Are you being sarcastic Dynamite, or did you really see/hear JZ say that in an article or the radio?[/quote]

JZ said in an interview last week that he wasn't sure that JC is a franchise QB. For what it is worth...in two days Zorn's opinion means nada.

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Perhaps we shouldn't be listening to Zorn too closely, after all he's already been proven to not be a franchise head coach.

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I completley disagree with Carlos Rogers being on the list, I dont understand how he is that bad of a draft pick. I think overall, he's played pretty damn well for us during his time here.

Landry I wouldnt put at number one. While he's been pretty horrid this season, I'd like to see him here for at least another year with a new coaching scheme, because I still think he has the tools to be really good....

I'd say Ramsey is probaboly #1... Campbell could be up there too depending on how things work out with him... anytime you take a QB that high, and it not pan out, it really sets the franchise back... (btw, I'm a Campbell fan, but if he is gone after this year, you'd have to consider the pick a pretty poor one).