Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside
 

I just got back from checking on my boat and its cold as he!! outside and its only going to get colder this week. Right now the temp is around 25 and my boat is surround by ice but I have its heater on so its nice and warm. Its so cold that the pelicans are dying and the fish are floating to the top of the water in parts of NC. I cannot remember the last time that we have had it this cold for this amount of time in VA. So hows your weather?

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Yeah its butt cold.

And sorry, but I have to throw this in...
[url=http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-01-14-voa5-68761472.html]Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand | News | English[/url]

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No kidding. I want my clunker back.

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Its cold up here in north western PA, its about 20° but according to [url=http://www.weather.com]National and Local Weather Forecast, Hurricane, Radar and Report[/url], it says it feels like 8° and snowing. at about mid January it will get to be about 0° for about a week or so...

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[quote=hooskins;650718]Yeah its butt cold.

And sorry, but I have to throw this in...
[URL="http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-01-14-voa5-68761472.html"]Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand | News | English[/URL][/quote]
They pretty much covered their ass on global warming. Hurricans GW, Snow GW, Heat GW, Rain GW, Tornadoes GW, I fart causes global warming.

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This is too counterintuitive for some folks...sorta like when riding a bike you push with your left hand if you want to go right.

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[quote=hooskins;650718]Yeah its butt cold.

And sorry, but I have to throw this in...
[URL="http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-01-14-voa5-68761472.html"]Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand | News | English[/URL][/quote]
Its funny they say don't look at a small window of weather and say its proof for or against global warming but that just what they did a few years back. Remember when we had that year with alot of hurricans and they said that was just a hint of what was coming with global warming and said that would be the new trend. They blamed that on global warming. Funny how they talk out of both sides of their mouth to fit their agenda.

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Extreme temperatures and extreme changes, I have know that for years. And I never remembering anyone bringing just to "cover their asses".

Its just been stated. But hey, ignorance is bliss. Right?



But either way, it is hella cold outside. That spike to 40 degrees we had up here, with the rain, got rid of all the snow and left those nasty black mounds of snow. Thats pretty much what I hate about snow, the leftovers.

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[quote=firstdown;650731]Its funny they say don't look at a small window of weather and say its proof for or against global warming but that just what they did a few years back. Remember when we had that year with alot of hurricans and they said that was just a hint of what was coming with global warming and said that would be the new trend. They blamed that on global warming. Funny how they talk out of both sides of their mouth to fit their agenda.[/quote]

Who the hell is "they" lol? That is a VERY gross generalization you just made, basically saying anyone who thinks global warming is not a hoax used the hurricanes as evidence.

I would agree with what you said, you cant use small windows to generalize. Kinda how you cant look at whatb some vocal global warming "avodocates" say (I know thats not the best term but you know what I mean) and generalize that for anyone who thinks its a legit phenomenon.

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[quote=saden1;650727]This is too counterintuitive for some folks...sorta like when riding a bike you push with your left hand if you want to go right.[/quote]
Well you can always pull with your right hand to turn right and stop using words I have to look up in the dictionary.

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[quote=firstdown;650726]They pretty much covered their ass on global warming. Hurricans GW, Snow GW, Heat GW, Rain GW, Tornadoes GW, I fart causes global warming.[/quote]

my dad told me he is gonna cut down on red meat cause cows farts cause the methane to burn a whole in the ozone which cause global warming, my dad is a moron

it's butt -fing cold here in nova, it wouldn't be that bad but this wind is what is killing me, everytime you go outside any part of you body exposed is f-ing freezing, i jut wish it would snow a foot again if it is gonna be this cold,

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[quote=hooskins;650735]Who the hell is "they" lol? That is a VERY gross generalization you just made, basically saying anyone who thinks global warming is not a hoax used the hurricanes as evidence.

I would agree with what you said, you cant use small windows to generalize. Kinda how you cant look at whatb some vocal global warming "avodocates" say (I know thats not the best term but you know what I mean) and generalize that for anyone who thinks its a legit phenomenon.[/quote]
I was talking about the link you posted and responding to that.

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"Cold" hard facts. I suppose they made this up too...

[IMG]http://rockstarearth.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/CO2TempChart1.144154731_std.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://forumpolitics.com/pics/ipcc-global-warming-chart.bmp[/IMG]

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There are more from NASA, other ind. science orgs, etc. Its fact the average temperature is going up over time. There is correlation.

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[quote=mlmdub130;650738]my dad told me he is gonna cut down on red meat cause cows farts cause the methane to burn a whole in the ozone which cause global warming, my dad is a moron

it's butt -fing cold here in nova, it wouldn't be that bad but this wind is what is killing me, everytime you go outside any part of you body exposed is f-ing freezing, i jut wish it would snow a foot again if it is gonna be this cold,[/quote]
Tell your dad the more red meat he eats the less cows there will be.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Firstdown, you know that I am in between on several thing regarding politics and such. I takes sides on the views that I believe are truth rather than taking any one particular side.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I believe that there are some legitimate concerns with global warming. First you have to get past the bullshit name that they gave it "Global Warming". A more appropriate name would have been "Global De-Insulation". First off, the word "cold" is a relative term. There are only varying degrees of heat. The word "cold " comes into play when the degree of heat is lesser than what we find comfortable.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]To truly understand Global warming you have to understand what the ozone layer truly is. In simple terms it is the layer of insulation in the atmosphere. Think of it as the insulation in your attic. Without proper insulation in your attic, your house cannot retain the cool air upstairs, therefore it gets too hot. In the winter time it cannot retain the heat, therefore your house gets too cold. The extreme differences between hot and cold during the different seasons are in relation to one another. Just because the accepted term is global "Warming" do not take it being "Cold" as a direct opposite of that at face value.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I hope that I just made sense.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=firstdown;650748]Tell your dad the more red meat he eats the less cows there will be.[/quote]

Thats what I would think too...

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Look I dont really think that means we should start being hippies and live in trees lol. Its just fact and I dont know how anyone can legitimately dispute the core argument, without getting away from facts.

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[quote=hooskins;650761]Look I dont really think that means we should start being hippies and live in trees lol. Its just fact and I dont know how anyone can legitimately dispute the core argument, without getting away from facts.[/quote]
The problem is I'm still not sold on what is fact and what is not.
[URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091110141842.htm"]Controversial new climate change data: Is Earth's capacity to absorb CO₂ much greater than expected?[/URL]

How did they come up with those charts you point to as fact? If they said Global Warming was just a trend and the earth warms and cools over time what happens to their funding (millions and millions of dollars). Remember follow the money. How much money has Mr Gore made of global warming? If it was such a crises why did most of them attendending the global thing last month take a private jet "remember they are so concerned". I'm just not sold yet.

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[quote=firstdown;650776]The problem is I'm still not sold on what is fact and what is not.
[URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091110141842.htm"]Controversial new climate change data: Is Earth's capacity to absorb CO₂ much greater than expected?[/URL]

How did they come up with those charts you point to as fact? If they said Global Warming was just a trend and the earth warms and cools over time what happens to their funding (millions and millions of dollars). Remember follow the money. How much money has Mr Gore made of global warming? If it was such a crises why did most of them attendending the global thing last month take a private jet "remember they are so concerned". I'm just not sold yet.[/quote]

Again you start [B]generalizing[/B], them them them. Seriously who is them? You make it seem like its an us vs them game. This is why I seriously hate the way people have become so freaking polarized we cant just step back and realize we are all humans and AMERICANS. Not sworn enemies. Geez. For the record, I dont give a crap about Gore and I know he is a sellout. Just like any other public figure. (Wow blows your mind huh? Of "them", aka me, calling out Gore? Oh no, it makes no sense!!!!).

How do they make those charts? Well if you take some time and read it says thermostats for the readings of the last 140 years. The measurements beyond that are using other techniques, tree rings, etc. That is why the range is greater in those measurements. Despite all that, there is still a trend which goes back several hundred years showing a consistent heating of our planet. [B]Sure there are peaks and valleys(thoses are the small heatings and coolings you are taking about), but from the overall large picture there is a clear increase which is statistically significant.[/B]


How can you deny this lol?

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[quote=hooskins;650718]Yeah its butt cold.

And sorry, but I have to throw this in...
[URL="http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-01-14-voa5-68761472.html"]Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Ha[/URL][URL="http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-01-14-voa5-68761472.html"]nd | News | English[/URL][/quote]

exactly.. which is why you never see me argue things like this with republicans

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[quote=firstdown;650737]Well you can always pull with your right hand to turn right and stop using words I have to look up in the dictionary.[/quote]

Try doing a figure eight on your bike by pulling on the bars.

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hoo, stop trying to cloud the facts with figures:)

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Yup, pretty cold outside here, pretty much how a NY January always is. Glad we totally debunked global warming.

:goodjob:

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[quote=saden1;650885]Try doing a figure eight on your bike by pulling on the bars.[/quote]
Should I try that with my 3 yr old in the back seat or try it on my own first? Saden I hope you had a great christmas and a happy New year.

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[quote=firstdown;651029]Should I try that with my 3 yr old in the back seat or try it on my own first? Saden I hope you had a great christmas and a happy New year.[/quote]


LOL...I wouldn't try it with your kid on the bike. I hear the best place to try it is at busy intersection but that doesn't sound safe to me.

I did enjoy the holidays, I spent it in the frigid cold of the D.C. area with my fiancé and her family. They had a feast in my honor and I met most of her immediate family members.

I hope you had a good christmas and new year too.

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First it was global cooling. Then they said is was global cooling. Now it is climate change. Why don't you dumb asses wake up and realize that the West is just selling indulgences to third world nations so they can keep on polluting, and liberal schmucks can feel good about themselves. I'll give you props on selling a good racket but don't think I'm stupid enough to believe in it.

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[quote=saden1;651040]LOL...I wouldn't try it with your kid on the bike. I hear the best place to try it is at busy intersection but that doesn't sound safe to me.

I did enjoy the holidays, I spent it in the frigid cold of the D.C. area with my fiancé and her family. They had a feast in my honor and I met most of her immediate family members.

I hope you had a good christmas and new year too.[/quote]
My Christmas was great and having a 3 yr old made it feel more like christmas playing santa and all that good stuff. My older daughter 24 spent the night and helped us play santa and I think she had as much fun as we did. I'm lucky all my family lives in the area so christmas eve we only had a 3 mile drive to my parents house and christmas day we drove a mile to my wifes parents home. We started a new tradition and had a family party christmas night at our house which was alot of fun. Spent New Years at home and actually made it till 12 which was something we had not done in a few years. So when is the big day?

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[quote=hooskins;650718]Yeah its butt cold.

And sorry, but I have to throw this in...
[URL="http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-01-14-voa5-68761472.html"]Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand | News | English[/URL][/quote]

[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/avatars/VinnyC.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;651082]First it was global cooling. Then they said is was global cooling. Now it is climate change. Why don't you dumb asses wake up and realize that the West is just selling indulgences to third world nations so they can keep on polluting, and liberal schmucks can feel good about themselves. I'll give you props on selling a good racket but don't think I'm stupid enough to believe in it.[/quote]

So do you think there is no basis at all for global warming/cooling/ozone breaking down, whatever you want to call it?

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[quote=Angry;650754][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Firstdown, you know that I am in between on several thing regarding politics and such. I takes sides on the views that I believe are truth rather than taking any one particular side.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I believe that there are some legitimate concerns with global warming. First you have to get past the bullshit name that they gave it "Global Warming". [B]A more appropriate name would have been "Global De-Insulation".[/B] First off, the word "cold" is a relative term. There are only varying degrees of heat. The word "cold " comes into play when the degree of heat is lesser than what we find comfortable.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]To truly understand Global warming you have to understand what the ozone layer truly is. In simple terms it is the layer of insulation in the atmosphere. Think of it as the insulation in your attic. Without proper insulation in your attic, your house cannot retain the cool air upstairs, therefore it gets too hot. In the winter time it cannot retain the heat, therefore your house gets too cold. The extreme differences between hot and cold during the different seasons are in relation to one another. Just because the accepted term is global "Warming" do not take it being "Cold" as a direct opposite of that at face value.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I hope that I just made sense.[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

Well, maybe I still have some reading to do on this issue, but at least my current understanding is that referring to climatic developments as "global de-insulation" is inaccurate, and that referring to it as global "warming" is in fact the more appropriate label.

Scientists crediting the warming of the Earth to human activity describe it as follows. The sun radiates heat toward the Earth, and it is indeed the ozone layer in the atmosphere that prevents all of the heat being radiated from the sun from hitting the planet. For the heat that does reach the Earth, however, much of it is radiated back into the atmosphere toward space. However, the greenhouses gases in the atmosphere (carbon dioxide being a primary one) trap the heat being radiated back into space. These gases have existed in the atmosphere for millions of years, and they have effectively helped the planet maintain a temperature that has allowed life to form. But the inordinate amount of carbon dioxide being shot into the atmosphere by humans is intensifying the "trapping" character of the gases, which results in a level of warming that is higher that is generally experienced in natural climatic cycles.

So, basically, it is not a de-insulation, but rather an increased insulation.

That's at least how I've understood it. Feel free to enlighten me more.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;651082]First it was global cooling. Then they said is was global cooling. Now it is climate change. Why don't you dumb asses wake up and realize that the West is just selling indulgences to third world nations so they can keep on polluting, and liberal schmucks can feel good about themselves. I'll give you props on selling a good racket but don't think I'm stupid enough to believe in it.[/quote]

West is just selling indulgences to third world nations? You should know what indulgence means before using it in such a context. If anything the west is buying indulgences.

TTL, if you knew much of anything you would be wise. In the future please leave analogizing to liberal schmucks.

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I think this is the thread where I'm supposed to say - cry me a river.

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[quote=saden1;651177]West is just selling indulgences to third world nations? You should know what indulgence means before using it in such a context. If anything the west is buying indulgences.

[B]TTL, if you knew much of anything you would be wise[/B]. In the future please leave analogizing to liberal schmucks.[/quote]
hahaha. sorry TTE, but thats funny

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[quote=saden1;651177]West is just selling indulgences to third world nations? You should know what indulgence means before using it in such a context. If anything the west is buying indulgences.

TTL, if you knew much of anything you would be wise. In the future please leave analogizing to liberal schmucks.[/quote]

You have to have the power to sell. The third world has none.

[url=http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/indulgences.htm]Indulgences[/url]

If being a liberal schmuch was a paying job, you'd be posting from your yacht in Brazil.

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[quote=Mattyk;651158]So do you think there is no basis at all for global warming/cooling/ozone breaking down, whatever you want to call it?[/quote]

The Earth has been covered in ice, hot as a match head, covered with water, and all before man came along. Which was once the ocean floor is now the top of a mountain. Mankind has only been fully industrialized for less than 200 years. To say we have the kind of control over the environment that many say we do is arrogant.

There is only one constant in this universe and that is change.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;651385]The Earth has been covered in ice, hot as a match head, covered with water, and all before man came along. Which was once the ocean floor is now the top of a mountain. Mankind has only been fully industrialized for less than 200 years. To say we have the kind of control over the environment that many say we do is arrogant.

There is only one constant in this universe and that is change.[/quote]

I honestly haven't studied enough info on either side of the debate. Over those 200 years we have pumped a ton of shit into the sky, water, and land. Is it enough to disrupt the natural cycles of the planet, I would guess we've had some sort of impact. To what extent though, I'm not sure.

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[quote=Mattyk;651402]I honestly haven't studied enough info on either side of the debate. Over those 200 years we have pumped a ton of shit into the sky, water, and land. Is it enough to disrupt the natural cycles of the planet, I would guess we've had some sort of impact. To what extent though, I'm not sure.[/quote]

One volcano puts up more shit into the atmosphere in one erruption than mankind has for the last 100.

[url=http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php]Volcanic Gases and Their Effects[/url]

Scientist [I]speculate[/I] that many of the previous ice ages were brought on by volcanism.

Science has become politicized and politicians are greedy lying worms.

[url=http://www.democracynow.org/2000/1/21/gore_attacked_over_ties_to_occidental]Gore Attacked Over Ties to Occidental Oil for Environmental and Human Rights Violations[/url]

I'm not saying we can't screw things up a little, but it's nothing compared to the big picture.

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I figure if Al Gore is correct and we do nothing I should have deep enough water front property to build a pier and keep my boat behind my house. My neighbor is on the water so I'm not that far away. I'll be in my 60's retired and can enjoy hot summer days on the water.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;651364]You have to have the power to sell. The third world has none.

[url=http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/indulgences.htm]Indulgences[/url]

If being a liberal schmuch was a paying job, you'd be posting from your yacht in Brazil.[/quote]

LOL...are you even trying or are you just saying things that don't add up for the sake of saying them?

Oh and I am working on a yacht that will one day be parked on the coast of southern France.