Defensive Coordinator for 2010
 

Who would you like to see as the Defensive Coordinator in Washington next season? I know we touched on this in other threads, but I feel now that Shanahan is official the discussion can start about his staff and the defense in particular.
I really hope it is not Bob Slowick. He was absolutely terrible in Denver as the DC. Mike Zimmer is a name that is rumored to be in the mix. I also would throw in Jerry Gray, although many see his interview for the head coaching job a direct stab in the back to Zorn, the case can be made for Jerry. As DC for Buffalo he had the number 2 ranked defense 2 years in a row.

Another name I've mentioned is Rob Ryan, although he is currently in Cleveland, that staff may be let go and I think his tutelage under Bellicheck and his father buddy Ryan bring a lot to the table.

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Don't worry about creating another thread man; seeing specific topics is good, I hate seeing people say "Oh we're discussing our future defense in the future speculation of Shanahan arriving thread" or whatever, what does that offer to someone first checking out the board with a specific idea on something?

As far as the topic, Zimmer would be nice; I really don't see him keeping who we already have, though I wouldn't mind if Gray and/or Oliv stayed on board, the latter having stayed throughout the past few coaches.

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I think Mike Zimmer will happen (the Bengals won't pay him what Danny will), and I wouldn't mind him bringing in his son Adam from the Saints to coach LBs work as maybe asst DC.

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What I've heard is that Zimmer is a near certainty.

Dick Jauron is free, though.

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Zimmer? Please we have Slowik?

I kind of feel bad for saying this but I'm hoping the Bengals get knocked out of the playoffs early so we can get this under way. Though I wouldn't mind see Ochocinco with a a chance to hold up the Super Bowl trophy though. Guy is easily one of my favorite players.

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Gray or Zimmer would be fine by me. I'm just happy it won't be Blache. Gray is more familiar with the personell and did a fine job in Buffalo.

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I wonder who's defense uses to players strength rather than just following the system. Blanche seemed to force square pegs in round holes.

Thanks for the support tryfuhl somtimes I like to make a premptive comment to stop people from saying that

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[quote=53Fan;650878]Gray or Zimmer would be fine by me. I'm just happy it won't be Blache.[/quote]

[B]Blache's D:[/B]
[IMG]http://www.retreatbeautyshop.co.uk/media/gbu0/prodsm/benddontbreak-1.jpg[/IMG]

[B]Zimmer's D: [/B]
[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/blitzkrieg-wallpaper.jpg[/IMG]

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^ LOL. I think I'd take Zimmer's "D" over Blache's any day of the week Dirtbag!

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[quote=Dirtbag359;650881][B]Blache's D:[/B]
[IMG]http://www.retreatbeautyshop.co.uk/media/gbu0/prodsm/benddontbreak-1.jpg[/IMG]

[B]Zimmer's D: [/B]
[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/blitzkrieg-wallpaper.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Nazi Stormtroopers are not politically correct, but yeah I think I like Zimmer too. I'm not too happy with Gray or Blache.

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^ Is Doughty that badass with the machine gun?

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[quote=Lotus;650888]^ Is Doughty that badass with the machine gun?[/quote]

Fresh off a safety blitz.

[quote=Trample the Elderly;650886]Nazi Stormtroopers are not politically correct, but yeah I think I like Zimmer too. I'm not too happy with Gray or Blache.[/quote]

Sorry, I googled blitzkrieg and that image fit the bill of what I was looking for to describe Zimmers D.

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[quote=Lotus;650888]^ Is Doughty that badass with the machine gun?[/quote]

I highly doubt Reed endorses national socialism.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;650889]Fresh off a safety blitz.



Sorry, I googled blitzkrieg and that image fit the bill of what I was looking for to describe Zimmers D.[/quote]

I'm just bustin your chops bro. I could give a damn.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;650890]I highly doubt Reed endorses national socialism.[/quote]

Reed loves Der Fuhrer.

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you know it's going to be zimmer...and you know he's the man...

BECAUSE HE CHEWS REDMAN!

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[quote=diehardskin2982;650879]I wonder who's defense uses to players strength rather than just following the system. Blanche seemed to force square pegs in round holes.

Thanks for the support tryfuhl somtimes I like to make a premptive comment to stop people from saying that[/quote]
No problem man, the less we have specific topics the more our stuff stays buried/hijacked.

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[quote=GMScud;650874]I think Mike Zimmer will happen (the Bengals won't pay him what Danny will), and I wouldn't mind him bringing in his son Adam from the Saints to coach LBs work as maybe asst DC.[/quote]

You might get your wish

Gray and Olivadotti are, I believe, interviewing for the Giants' DC position-among many other people

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[quote=SmootSmack;650958]You might get your wish

Gray and Olivadotti are, I believe, interviewing for the Giants' DC position-among many other people[/quote]
I certainly don't want Gray at the Giants, I think he is an outstanding coach, and the Giants already give us fits.

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Zimmer seems to be the favorite with Gray as a possible fall back.

JLC is reporting Jim Haslet as a possibility too...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/06/shanahans-defense-could-be-run-by-zimmer-or-haslett/]Shanahan's defense could be run by Zimmer or Haslett | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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Zimmer is no nonsense hard ass who will get in guys faces. On top of that he's a top DC IMO. He's got Cinn defense playing very well all year long. Anyone see the Hard Knocks? How can you not like Zimmer?

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I favor Zimmer...I would like Gray to stay on staff if that is possible. Slowik wasnt too great in Denver so I hope he is not running the D...Like it or not, the Defense is the strength of this team by far and we need to maintain that, so I dont know how I really feel about going to 3-4 at this point, that is pretty drastic change. Our personel on that side of the ball is pretty damn solid as well...If we just moved Laron to SS obtained a solid Free safety, move Rak to the Line permently and inserted a vet OLB, tweaked the scheme to slightly more aggressive, I dont see why we cant be considered in the top third in the league on D...

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[quote=Chico23231;650980]I favor Zimmer...I would like Gray to stay on staff if that is possible. Slowik wasnt too great in Denver so I hope he is not running the D...Like it or not, the Defense is the strength of this team by far and we need to maintain that,[B] so I dont know how I really feel about going to 3-4 at this point, that is pretty drastic change.[/B] Our personel on that side of the ball is pretty damn solid as well..[B].If we just moved Laron to SS obtained a solid Free safety, move Rak to the Line permently and inserted a vet OLB, tweaked the scheme to slightly more aggressive, I dont see why we cant be considered in the top third in the league on D[/B]...[/quote]

I agree. Put players where they can do the most good, play more aggressive...we got ourselves a top defense fellas. A FS and a good strongside LB would help a lot.

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Zimmer is by far my first choice. I would be more excited to hear he is coming in as DC than I was when Shanny was announced. I like Shanny as HC, I love Zimmer as DC. I was lurking around on some Cincy message boards yesterday, and they are pretty upset about the prospect of Zimmer leaving. They even started an online petition to the owners of Cincy to "pay Zimmer what he wants." I hope Danny's deep pockets are able to bring this guy to our already talented defense.

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[quote=SmootSmack;650958]You might get your wish

Gray and Olivadotti are, I believe, interviewing for the Giants' DC position-among many other people[/quote]

Interesting. I was honestly wondering if Jerry Gray would be blackballed by other teams. I can't imagine a coach wanting a back-stabber like Gray on his staff. Then again, a hands-on owner might like having a proven "company man."

I am also in favor of Zimmer. Everything i've read about him is very impressive. I read an article somewhere describing some of what they saw of him on Hard Knocks - the "fieryness" reminded me of GG.

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Hey BHA, what do you think of John Mara firing Sheridan up in NY? Isn't it overstepping the owner's role?

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Six weeks ago, you could not find anyone around the NFL who had a bad word to say about Jerry Gray. Everyone thought highly of him both professionally and personally.


Today, you can find more than a few people who think that he handled the end of the 2009 season and the coaching turmoil within the Redskins in a horrible fashion. There are a couple of African-American coaches/execs who will say - - off the record - - that he was complicit with Danny Boy in evading the Rooney Rule which is there to help African Americans get top NFL jobs. That is heavy-duty criticism, folks!


That perception is out there because of the way Jerry Gray handled the inquiries about his purported interview for the Skins' job even though there was no job vacancy at the time. Whoever advised him on how to respond to questions did him no favors. Jerry Gray's pristine image/reputation now has some smudges on it.


He is fully qualified to be a DC. There are openings out there for DCs. If he does not get one of the jobs, I would say that the events of the last six weeks played a major part in that outcome.

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I'm surprised so many people are so high on Gray, considering the consistent mental breakdowns on the field by the secondary this year. All opposing QB's had to do was pump fake and they'd open up a hole downfield. And while the passing defense looked good statisically, that had more to do with other teams constantly playing with a lead than it had to do with a strong secondary. But my biggest concern with Gray is that he didn't coach the players well enough. Too many mental errors, and after a while that falls on Gray. The defensive scheme lies with the defensive coordinator (Blache), but the preparation for the player's individual performance is on the positions coach, and that doesn't reflect highly on Gray.

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whoever the dc is, I hope they consider shifting Landry to SS and Orakpo back to his natural end position so he can wreak some havoc in the opponent's backfield. Hopefully Jarmon will push for the starting RE position as well.

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I posted this on another thread:

Shanahan should look no further than Jerry Gray or Kirk Olivadotti. Zimmer is still with the Bengals as they are in the playoffs and can't agree to a contract till their season is over. I hope Shanahan decides to give Gray a shot at DC, that's the least the Redskins could do for putting him in 2 fake interviews to meet the Rooney rule.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;651060]I posted this on another thread:

Shanahan should look no further than Jerry Gray or Kirk Olivadotti. Zimmer is still with the Bengals as they are in the playoffs and can't agree to a contract till their season is over. I hope Shanahan decides to give Gray a shot at DC, that's the least the Redskins could do for putting him in 2 fake interviews to meet the Rooney rule.[/quote]

I don't know about you but I don't want any hold overs from Zorn/Gibbs.

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[quote=skinsfan69;651063]I don't know about you but I don't want any hold overs from Zorn/Gibbs.[/quote]

These are 2 young smart guys, if they were no good why would the NY Giants be going after them for their vacant DC position? I would hate to see them go to a rival team.

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[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/Haslet.jpg[/IMG]

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Im suprised Gray hasn't tried to apply for the Texas Tech Job

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[quote=53Fan;650878]Gray or Zimmer would be fine by me. I'm just happy it won't be Blache. Gray is more familiar with the personell and did a fine job in Buffalo.[/quote]

I had thought maybe none of the holdovers would be retained, but I agree about Zimmer & Gray, providing none of Blaches' personality has rubbed off on him. I can't help but wonder what the rookies (including Orakpo) thinks of coming to a team to get their first NFL experience and have your coordinator tell you "he does not talk to rookies".

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[quote=diehardskin2982;651094]Im suprised Gray hasn't tried to apply for the Texas Tech Job[/quote]

Those Recievers would think they were 10 times better then they really are during practice. "Holy crap" I didn't know pro defenses played 10 yards off the ball. Man NFL ball is definetely easier then college."

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The one thing I noticed about Shannahan's D's were a lack of quality Defensive Coordinators. [B] Bob Slowik[/B], [B]Jim Bates[/B] (use to be good but seems to have lost his mojo after 2003),[B] Larry Coyer[/B] (was actually pretty good for a while in Denver, probably fired him to early), [B]Ray Rhodes[/B] (last time I remember the Broncos having a good D was with Rhodes).

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[B][url=http://www.dcprosportsreport.com/articles/washington-redskins/shanahan-and-jerry-gray.html]Shanahan and Jerry Gray?[/url][/B]

Don't write off Jerry Gray yet.

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^ Wow, 3 ad links in one post.

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Does anyone know how they can get Zimmer, when it sounds like a latteral promotion. I was under the impression that latteral promotions are not allowed. Is he not under contract next year.