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ESPN reporting that Jim Mora has been fired as head coach of Seattle.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4808557]Seattle Seahawks fire Jim Mora after one season, source says - ESPN[/url]

Can't say I saw that one coming. With the rumors of Paul Allen's failing health and a shaky front office, who's going to end up there? I think we can rule out Cowher, too far away from his family.

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Wow!! I didn't see that especially after Holmgren didn't go there. Maybe Zorn is headed back to Seattle!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;652477]Wow!! I didn't see that especially after Holmgren didn't go there. Maybe Zorn is headed back to Seattle![/quote]

I would be really happy for him if that were to happen, whether it's as qb coach, coordinator or waterboy supervisor. That's where he belongs & has a good history.

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I figured he'd be fired if Holmgren took over there, but then I guess makes sense no matter who the new President/GM is there

Billick? Probably not

Fassel? Possible

Cowher? Doubt it

A Floyd Reese/Mike Heimerdinger combo wouldn't surprise me

I think Raye and DeCosta are also finalists for the GM position.

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They said a few weeks ago that Mora would be back for another season so this was a huge surprise...

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In professional sports no one has any patience. It's win now or you're fired. Jim Mora's team underachieved. But one year? That's just wrong.

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I feel sorry for Mora. He so wanted to return to Washington state and be a success. Now, after one year as the head guy, he's back to plan B.

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I once heard that they decided they didn't want to give him the job, but it was too late he was already waiting in the wings after Holmgren.

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lol I doubt Zorn is gonna get their head coaching position.

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Mora was screwed either way. He comes to Washington he has Vinny assembling a playoff roster, he goes to Seattle and gets fired after one year. Ironically though he might be a candidate to be this teams Defensive Coordinator.

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[B]Seahawks fire Mora, plan to interview Frazier[/B]

Posted: January 8th, 2010 | Steve Wyche | Tags: Jim Mora, Leslie Frazier, Minnesota Vikings, Seattle Seahawks

The Seattle Seahawks have fired coach Jim Mora and have already arranged to interview Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier, according to sources with knowledge of the developments.

Mora, who inherited a 4-12 team, spent just one season as coach after being promoted as a defensive assistant in 2009. Seattle was decimated by injuries and inconsistency and finished 5-11.

It was Mora’s second head coaching job, having led the Atlanta Falcons to a 26-22 record from 2004-2006.

Frazier, meanwhile, has been contacted by and will interview with the Seahawks in the near future. Frazier recently interviewed for the Buffalo Bills’ head coaching vacancy.

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DeCosta is another very strong candidate to end up there

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I always liked Mora, his football philosophys always seemed sound. Going in I think Seattle was a team that needed a decent amount of work/rebuilding, doesn't seem quite fair to him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;652514]DeCosta is another very strong candidate to end up there[/quote]

wouldnt it be a lateral move to come here, though?

I'd Love Bruce Allen as Team President, Eric DeCosta as GM, and Morocco Brown as Director of Player Personnel.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;652523]wouldnt it be a lateral move to come here, though?

I'd Love Bruce Allen as Team President, Eric DeCosta as GM, and Morocco Brown as Director of Player Personnel.[/quote]

Wasn't talking about him coming here. Talking about Seattle

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and of course I forgot about Pete Carroll

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[quote=SmootSmack;652526]and of course I forgot about Pete Carroll[/quote]
Yep.. looks like that's who they want.

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Jeez even Zorn got 2 seasons.

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[quote=tryfuhl;652531]Yep.. looks like that's who they want.[/quote]

Really? Is that what they're saying?

I just know Carroll has been a rumored candidate to return to the NFL this year. I've been thinking Dallas but Seattle makes sense

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[quote=SmootSmack;652538]Really? Is that what they're saying?

I just know Carroll has been a rumored candidate to return to the NFL this year. I've been thinking Dallas but Seattle makes sense[/quote]
That's what the guys on ESPN just reported.. don't know how long they'd been talking about it, I was taking a nap. It was reported that they had mutual interest in each other and that Seattle wanted to bring in Carrol as well as Bates I believe

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[quote=tryfuhl;652539]That's what the guys on ESPN just reported.. don't know how long they'd been talking about it, I was taking a nap. It was reported that they had mutual interest in each other and that Seattle wanted to bring in Carrol as well as Bates I believe[/quote]

Oh. I'm watching Golden Girls (what?)...didn't realize that

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[quote=tryfuhl;652539]That's what the guys on ESPN just reported.. don't know how long they'd been talking about it, I was taking a nap. It was reported that they had mutual interest in each other and that Seattle wanted to bring in Carrol as well as Bates I believe[/quote]

Carrol is reportedly trying to talk Bates into joining him.

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Shouldn't have been hired as Head Coach in the first place. It's not surprising they fired he because it was going to happen sooner or later. It is surprising that they had the guts to fire him after one year.

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[quote=53Fan;652543]Carrol is reportedly trying to talk Bates into joining him.[/quote]

Wonder what the Bears will do if that happens. I thought they really wanted him

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On a side note...anyone think Nick Saban will have his players practicing how to dump Gatorade next season?

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[quote=SmootSmack;652545]Wonder what the Bears will do if that happens. I thought they really wanted him[/quote]

It's not a sure thing but apparently Carroll is interested enough to try to get Bates to go with him.

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Why would Pete Carroll leave USC to come back to the grind of the NFL? Just doesn't make sense to me.

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[quote=skinsfan69;652548]Why would Pete Carroll leave USC to come back to the grind of the NFL? Just doesn't make sense to me.[/quote]
Coaches have pride and egos.. this is why you'll see a coach leave a successful program and then come back with a project team

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[quote=skinsfan69;652548]Why would Pete Carroll leave USC to come back to the grind of the NFL? Just doesn't make sense to me.[/quote]

He's been wanting to try to prove himself at the NFL again

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What else does Carrol have to prove in college? Might as well take the big payday and try to prove himself on the next level. If the Seahawks are able to bring in Carrol then canning Mora was a no-brainer.

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Third time's the charm?

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[quote=53Fan;652546]On a side note...anyone think Nick Saban will have his players practicing how to dump Gatorade next season?[/quote]

Yeah, no joke. And it was amazing how humorless Saban was about the whole experience.

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[quote=skinsfan69;652492]In professional sports no one has any patience. It's win now or you're fired. Jim Mora's team underachieved. But one year? That's just wrong.[/quote]

Especially when there's more than enough reasons why he underachieved that had absolutely nothing to do with his coaching. His team was beset with almost as many injuries as we had. You know what they say NFL stands for.

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[quote=Mattyk;652560]What else does Carrol have to prove in college? Might as well take the big payday and try to prove himself on the next level. If the Seahawks are able to bring in Carrol then canning Mora was a no-brainer.[/quote]

CARROL? How can anyone be surprised that he will consider leaving USC?
Read the writing on the wall: If he stays, he essentially gets executed by brewing NCAA investigations into illegal recruitment and player misconduct going back 6-8 years. Let's go ahead and call a spade a spade like Bob Knight did about John Calipari. Carrol's going to skip town out of LA because it won't be for long that the last 5 years of wins and championships will be stripped from USC. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH "nothing else to prove at the college level"

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[quote=Lotus;652562]Yeah, no joke. And it was amazing how humorless Saban was about the whole experience.[/quote]

You'd think that grumpy bastard would crack a smile after the whole thing. I mean you just won the national title! Playing for him must really suck.

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[quote=Mattyk;652560]What else does Carrol have to prove in college? Might as well take the big payday and try to prove himself on the next level. If the Seahawks are able to bring in Carrol then canning Mora was a no-brainer.[/quote]

To me they're the same guy. Mora should go and coach college.

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I can't figure out what the NFL sees in Pete Carroll. He was an average to below average coach in the NFL. Now just because he did a great job recruiting in college he is coaching royalty. Will he petition Goodell to allow him 10 1st round draft picks each year? I just don't see it with him. I am okay with him getting another opportunity but the way teams like court him every offseason makes no sense to me.

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Mortensen is now saying it would be a surprise if Carrol [B]wasn't[/B] Seattles next coach and Leslie Frazier has turned down an interview because he doesn't think he'd get a legitimate shot. He thinks it would be to just satisfy the Rooney Rule.

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[quote=Lotus;652562]Yeah, no joke. And it was amazing how humorless Saban was about the whole experience.[/quote]

He said it was the [B]intensity[/B] of it that bothered him. :laughing-

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[quote=celts32;652583]I can't figure out what the NFL sees in Pete Carroll. He was an average to below average coach in the NFL. Now just because he did a great job recruiting in college he is coaching royalty. Will he petition Goodell to allow him 10 1st round draft picks each year? I just don't see it with him. I am okay with him getting another opportunity but the way teams like court him every offseason makes no sense to me.[/quote]

I was surprised to learn that he was 33-31 as a head coach in the NFL. In fact he was 27-21 as the Patriots head coach. Fired after going 8-8 in his third year and replaced by Belicheck.