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MTK 01-13-2010 08:52 AM

Massive Earthquake Devastates Haiti
 
[url=http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/americas/Massive-Earthquake-Devastates-Haiti-81311282.html]Massive Earthquake Devastates Haiti | Americas | English[/url]

FRPLG 01-13-2010 09:07 AM

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Move Haiti to the top of my list of "Places I am glad I don't live"

What a disaster.

Trample the Elderly 01-13-2010 10:25 AM

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That's too bad. I don't want to pay for it. I hope they can rebuild their hovels. Good luck.

Chico23231 01-13-2010 10:40 AM

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People should think about giving to a relief agency, people over there really dont have anything...shoes and cloths along with clean drinking water is considered luxuries. I remember speaking with a lady who went over there about 5-6 years ago with her church for a goodwill-like mission. She said the first thing thats hits you is the smell coming off the airplane of trash, pollution, etc. She said it was shocking to the core of how impoverish the entire population is. Its the definition of 3rd world country. Again, please try to give.

MTK 01-13-2010 11:42 AM

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[url=http://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressrelease/2010-01-13/large-earthquake-haiti]Large earthquake in Haiti | Oxfam International[/url]

Trample the Elderly 01-13-2010 12:03 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;654179]People should think about giving to a relief agency, people over there really dont have anything...shoes and cloths along with clean drinking water is considered luxuries. I remember speaking with a lady who went over there about 5-6 years ago with her church for a goodwill-like mission. She said the first thing thats hits you is the smell coming off the airplane of trash, pollution, etc. She said it was shocking to the core of how impoverish the entire population is. Its the definition of 3rd world country. Again, please try to give.[/quote]

The US shouldn't be the world's policeman or saviour.

Chico23231 01-13-2010 12:12 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654239]The US shouldn't be the world's policeman or saviour.[/quote]

ok im not making any political statements about what our government shouldnt or should do nor trying to create an arguement...giving is a personal choice. Being close neighbors it would be cool for people with so much to give to others with so little.

MTK 01-13-2010 12:18 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;654242]ok im not making any political statements about what our government shouldnt or should do nor trying to create an arguement...giving is a personal choice. Being close neighbors it would be cool for people with so much to give to others with so little.[/quote]

well said

Trample the Elderly 01-13-2010 12:59 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;654242]ok im not making any political statements about what our government shouldnt or should do nor trying to create an arguement...giving is a personal choice. Being close neighbors it would be cool for people with so much to give to others with so little.[/quote]

I'm making a political statement. What I'm saying is that giving is not a personal choice. I already "paid" for the money to buy that hospital ship that's going down there. I also paid for all of the "Aid" that's been given to them over the years. So you can ask for handouts for them if you want, I commend you and your big heart. I've already given against my will. If you want to give, how about giving to the poor people in the mountains? They're just as poor as the Haitians. How about all of the homeless in Richmond? Those people are your neighbors, not the Haitians.

over the mountain 01-13-2010 01:00 PM

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the elevator screen in my bldg told me "hundred of thousands have died". if thats their early estimate i dont want to know what the final tally is.

is there an honest to goodness real charity organization to give to that doesnt use 84 cents out of every dolar on adminstrative expenses?

over the mountain 01-13-2010 01:05 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654279] How about all of the homeless in Richmond? Those people are your neighbors, not the Haitians.[/quote]

we're all neighbors, it just a matter of distance that separates us.

(man i can be so freakin poetic sometimes)

Trample the Elderly 01-13-2010 01:18 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;654285]we're all neighbors, it just a matter of distance that separates us.

(man i can be so freakin poetic sometimes)[/quote]

If that's true, tell me where neighbor Bin Laden is. We can split the reward.

saden1 01-13-2010 01:50 PM

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Don't mind TTL folks, he simply longs for the day when he can keep more of his money. It's unrealistic of course but what do you expect from a unrealistic man?

firstdown 01-13-2010 01:52 PM

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I have no problem with our goverment helping people like this. Personally I don't donate to causes like this because of all the fraud that goes on and the waist when some guy sitting in an office takes 80% and sends 20%. I'd be glad to buy ten cases of water and drop them off somewhere but thats not going to happen.

MTK 01-13-2010 01:57 PM

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I should have known better and just glossed over this story.

Trample the Elderly 01-13-2010 02:01 PM

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[quote=saden1;654304]Don't mind TTL folks, he simply longs for the day when he can keep more of his money. It's unrealistic of course but what do you expect from a unrealistic man?[/quote]

When I heard about the earthquake I thought to myself, "How come it couldn't have been Capitol Hill?" I would've been dancing in the street.

One day Saden the bill for all of your meddling and thievery will come due.

saden1 01-13-2010 02:08 PM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654314]When I heard about the earthquake I thought to myself, "How come it couldn't have been Capitol Hill?" I would've been dancing in the street.

One day Saden the bill for all of your meddling and thievery will come due.[/quote]

When it does you'll be paying for it too, without consent I might add.

GMScud 01-13-2010 02:08 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;654311]I should have known better and just glossed over this story.[/quote]

Seriously. There are possibly half a million people dead in an awful disaster, and we can't get 10 posts without politics being thrown around? Pretty pathetic fellas.

saden1 01-13-2010 02:10 PM

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You guys are right, horrible tragedy that shouldn't be politicized. [URL="http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/01/12/thoughts-and-prayers-haiti"]I've already donated $30 by texting 90999[/URL].

Trample the Elderly 01-13-2010 02:10 PM

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[quote=saden1;654318]When it does you'll be paying for it too, without consent I might add.[/quote]

I'm armed to the teeth, so are my neighbors.

firstdown 01-13-2010 02:14 PM

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[quote=saden1;654304]Don't mind TTL folks, he simply longs for the day when he can keep more of his money. It's unrealistic of course but what do you expect from a unrealistic man?[/quote]
Whats wrong with wanting to keep more of his money?

FRPLG 01-13-2010 03:03 PM

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[quote=GMScud;654319]Seriously. There are possibly half a million people dead in an awful disaster, and we can't get 10 posts without politics being thrown around? Pretty pathetic fellas.[/quote]

No kidding.

Trample the Elderly 01-13-2010 03:19 PM

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[quote=GMScud;654319]Seriously. There are possibly half a million people dead in an awful disaster, and we can't get 10 posts without politics being thrown around? Pretty pathetic fellas.[/quote]

It's not that I don't care . . . . if they aren't Americans, I care [B][I]less[/I][/B].

firstdown 01-13-2010 03:20 PM

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[quote=GMScud;654319]Seriously. There are possibly half a million people dead in an awful disaster, and we can't get 10 posts without politics being thrown around? Pretty pathetic fellas.[/quote]
Is that the new number coming out? Wow, I heard that they are just piling bodies up in the streets and the ports are so damaged that we cannot even use them to bring in supplies.

JWsleep 01-13-2010 03:29 PM

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Could be half a million dead.

On the politics: having a failed state near us is bad. As a foreign policy issue, giving aid is a good idea.

On the moral issue: we are in a position to help these people, and almost no other country is in such a position. Some would argue that we have an out and out responsibility to help, in the same way one ought to help if you see a person collapse in front of you on the street. And even if it's not obligatory, it would be a good and right thing to do, in my opinion. I may not be able to buy an extra video game, but that may allow some unfortunate people to survive this disaster.

RobH4413 01-13-2010 05:49 PM

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For the record.

You can donate 10$ to the Red Cross relief effort in Haiti by texting HAITI to 90999. It will show up on your phone bill.

70Chip 01-13-2010 06:03 PM

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I think the 500,000 are the lucky ones.

budw38 01-13-2010 06:35 PM

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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Vargas_mudslides]1999 Vargas mudslides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] . Very sad . Natural disasters are so much more destructive in the poorer countries ..... I hope that the other Island countries and South American nations pitch in . I also hope for the best of all of the survivors .

MTK 01-14-2010 08:20 AM

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[quote=RobH4413;654417]For the record.

You can donate 10$ to the Red Cross relief effort in Haiti by texting HAITI to 90999. It will show up on your phone bill.[/quote]

done

Longtimefan 01-14-2010 10:12 AM

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Good to see the relief effort put forth by all the countries that have offered their assistance in such troubled times. Will be interesting to see just how many will be there for the long haul because Haiti is going to need massive help for a long, long time. Their whole country is going to need rebuilding. Continue to pray for the relief and recovery effort, and all the people of Haiti.

MTK 01-14-2010 10:24 AM

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[url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583013,00.html]Haiti Earthquake: How You Can Help - FOX & Friends - FOXNews.com[/url]

firstdown 01-14-2010 10:27 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;654577]done[/quote]

After watching this on the news last night I sent money to the red cross. Don't no how to text so I had to do it the old fashion way through the internet link.

firstdown 01-14-2010 10:29 AM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654377]It's not that I don't care . . . . if they aren't Americans, I care [B][I]less[/I][/B].[/quote]
Why would you care less if they are not Americans? A person is a person no matter what country they are from. Now maybe if it was some radical area in the middle east then it could affect how I feel.

MTK 01-14-2010 10:34 AM

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[url=http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_offers_satellite_images_of_haiti_post-earth.php]Google Offers Satellite Images of Haiti, Post-Earthquake[/url]

Trample the Elderly 01-14-2010 11:12 AM

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[quote=firstdown;654623][B]Why would you care less if they are not Americans[/B]? [B]A person is a person no matter what country they are from[/B]. Now maybe if it was some radical area in the middle east then it could affect how I feel.[/quote]

The same reason I care less about you than I would my family, priority.

That's your opinion and you just contradicted it too. I don't see why we would give one bloody cent to Haiti or anyone else?

We sent aid to Iran when an earthquake killed people over there. Yet they persist in funding terrorism and blaming all of their problems on us.

When the freeways collapsed in Oakland I don't remember anyone giving a damn about dead and trapped Americans?

Do you know how many times the Marines have been deployed to Haiti and the Dominican Republic? It's a rat hole.

12thMan 01-14-2010 11:16 AM

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;654645]The same reason I care less about you than I would my family, priority.

That's your opinion and you just contradicted it too. I don't see why we would give one bloody cent to Haiti or anyone else?

We sent aid to Iran when an earthquake killed people over there. Yet they persist in funding terrorism and blaming all of their problems on us.

When the freeways collapsed in Oakland I don't remember anyone giving a damn about dead and trapped Americans?

Do you know how many times the Marines have been deployed to Haiti and the Dominican Republic? It's a rat hole.[/quote]

Bro, seriously? Has it come to this?

MTK 01-14-2010 11:35 AM

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[quote=12thMan;654651]Bro, seriously? Has it come to this?[/quote]

It's not even worth it.

Longtimefan 01-14-2010 11:37 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;654112][url=http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/americas/Massive-Earthquake-Devastates-Haiti-81311282.html]Massive Earthquake Devastates Haiti | Americas | English[/url][/quote]

Has this thread brought out the best of the worst in some of us?

BringBackJoeT 01-14-2010 11:45 AM

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[quote=firstdown;654622]After watching this on the news last night I sent money to the red cross. Don't no how to text so I had to do it the old fashion way through the internet link.[/quote]

Yeah, I was more comfortable doing it online than via text. Not sure why, but I guess that method has become the "old fashioned" way for me as well.

MTK 01-14-2010 11:52 AM

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[quote=Longtimefan;654668]Has this thread brought out the best of the worst in some of us?[/quote]

There's always a few bad apples in the bunch, not much you can do about it.


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