The Dark Side of Marvin Harrison
 

We seem to have this every few months now...but here it is, yet another article on Marvin Harrison's actions off the field

[url=http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201002/marvin-harrison]The Dirtiest Player: Profiles: GQ[/url]

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just finished reading it. marvin harrison needs to be in jail. it will be a travesty if he's allowed in the hall of fame.

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What does it say? Mu filter wont open it!!!

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it basically says that harrison is a murder, and that he wouldn't have been able to commit murder if the Philly DA had done her job and arrested him for attempted murder when there was a mountain of evidence against him.

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we've known marvin harrison was a bad guy for a while now. i had the displeasure if meeting him once in a store. needless to say, not the friendliest person. and after all this crap in philadelphia, really proves what a piece of crap he is.

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Wow.....i still have my doubts but this seems pretty cut and dry

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What exactly happend during the incident?

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Crazy! Who would've thought Marvin Harrison was so gangster. I hope he doesn't get away with this.

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[quote=Redskins_P;654740]Crazy! Who would've thought Marvin Harrison was so gangster. I hope he doesn't get away with this.[/quote]

he already has.

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If this is proven to be untrue this slander at it's greatest. Why run the risk of printing this that is why you do a exclusive interview on tv you don't print this. Sounds like Mark Price ex-coach of Alabama and SI. Not saying it's not true but it's too much to risk.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;654738]What exactly happend during the incident?[/quote]

He got in a pro-longed argument with a drug dealer from his neighborhood and ended up pulling a gun and firing at the guy in his car a bunch of times during which he accidentally shot a bystander. Police investigated, found the weapon at Harrison's garage, where the incident took place, and Harrison swore it had been in his safe at home until the day the police had shown up. Despite a mountain of evidence and the serious disbelief of the police the DA decided not prosecute. So eventually the guy he shot at sued him in civil court and magically that guy got murdered about a block away from Harrison's bar. Sounds pretty clear that Harrison and/or his proxies perpetrated some serious illegal shenanigans and the DA did nothing.

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My respect for Harrison is seriously diminished.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;654757]If this is proven to be untrue this slander at it's greatest. Why run the risk of printing this that is why you do a exclusive interview on tv you don't print this. Sounds like Mark Price ex-coach of Alabama and SI. Not saying it's not true but it's too much to risk.[/quote]

the vast majority of the article comes directly from police reports and comments from public officials. its a matter of public record. i'm not a lawyer but i dont see the potential for slander at all.

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[quote=FRPLG;654770]He got in a pro-longed argument with a drug dealer from his neighborhood and ended up pulling a gun and firing at the guy in his car a bunch of times during which he accidentally shot a bystander. Police investigated, found the weapon at Harrison's garage, where the incident took place, and Harrison swore it had been in his safe at home until the day the police had shown up. Despite a mountain of evidence and the serious disbelief of the police the DA decided not prosecute. So eventually the guy he shot at sued him in civil court and magically that guy got murdered about a block away from Harrison's bar. Sounds pretty clear that Harrison and/or his proxies perpetrated some serious illegal shenanigans and the DA did nothing.[/quote]

good synopsis. on additional piece of evidence: there was a video camera outside harrison's bar that had the entire thing on tape.... except 3 minutes where the shooters face would have been visible... harrison or someone in his employ deliberately erased that portion of the video.

there's a reason no team in the NFL even considered signing harrison after the colts released him... everyone knows he was either directly responsible or complicit in a first-degree murder.

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I guess it's easy to understand why Robert Nixon didn't see anything. Wonder if the Police ever questioned him about his reportred version of the story.

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If he took out a drug dealer that was actually threatening to cause problems, i don't have a huge problem with it. Not as much as if he was going out and driving drunk, or harming law abiding citizens. It's not right that he took things into his own hands like that, but this just doesn't rank that highly on my outrage meter.

edit- that was a really good read, thanks for posting SS.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;654821]If he took out a drug dealer that was actually threatening to cause problems, i don't have a huge problem with it. Not as much as if he was going out and driving drunk, or harming law abiding citizens. It's not right that he took things into his own hands like that, but this just doesn't rank that highly on my outrage meter.

edit- that was a really good read, thanks for posting SS.[/quote]

He almost murdered a 2 year-old kid and his family!

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[quote=Longtimefan;654800]I guess it's easy to understand why Robert Nixon didn't see anything. Wonder if the Police ever questioned him about his reportred version of the story.[/quote]

That's the "code" in the city. No one ever sees anything when a "brother" is involved.

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Did I miss something because I never saw where they matched the gun to the bullets.

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[quote=Buster;654826]That's the "code" in the city. No one ever sees anything when a "brother" is involved.[/quote]
Thats the code the bothers have. No Snitch.

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[quote=firstdown;654829]Thats the code the bothers have. No Snitch.[/quote]

I didn't know Marvin Harrison had a brother

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[quote=firstdown;654827]Did I miss something because I never saw where they matched the gun to the bullets.[/quote]

"Harrison still had a number of plausible alibis, even if the gun hammer were to exactly match the markings left on the recovered casings (and ballistics tests would eventually prove that five of six casings did match)."

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;654722]just finished reading it. marvin harrison needs to be in jail. it will be a travesty if he's allowed in the hall of fame.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I dont think the HOF is supposed to be based on anything but your play. So if that is truly the case I would really want him in even if he continues to do bad things. In my view that would speak higher to the excellent play of Hall of Famers. I would look at like wow everyone in here is in here for one reason. Not because they were great guys off the field, or donated money to charity, or did lots of commercials for NFL Play 60, but only because they tore it up on the field again and again. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Another thing is if a receiver got in while Harrison waited indefinitely, does that mean that this receiver might just be a nicer guy off the field and not a better player than Harrison on the field? In my view that diminishes the greatness of the players in there. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If the HOF is also slightly based off of being a stand up guy and not just a great player then I take all that back, im 100% with you. I wouldn’t want him in either.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If he does get in, which I think he will, what will be a huge question will be does he speak at the induction? Does he even show up? Is he even alive by the time he gets in (I bet he gets killed in the next 7 years).[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=mlmpetert;654851][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I dont think the HOF is supposed to be based on anything but your play. So if that is truly the case I would really want him in even if he continues to do bad things. In my view that would speak higher to the excellent play of Hall of Famers. I would look at like wow everyone in here is in here for one reason. Not because they were great guys off the field, or donated money to charity, or did lots of commercials for NFL Play 60, but only because they tore it up on the field again and again. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Another thing is if a receiver got in while Harrison waited indefinitely, does that mean that this receiver might just be a nicer guy off the field and not a better player than Harrison on the field? In my view that diminishes the greatness of the players in there. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If the HOF is also slightly based off of being a stand up guy and not just a great player then I take all that back, im 100% with you. I wouldn’t want him in either.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If he does get in, which I think he will, what will be a huge question will be does he speak at the induction? Does he even show up? Is he even alive by the time he gets in (I bet he gets killed in the next 7 years).[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

Irvin got in and OJ was allowed to stay, so I have no doubts this will affect his chances. It may affect the welcome he gets from the fans of other players going in but that's probably about it.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;654722]just finished reading it. marvin harrison needs to be in jail. it will be a travesty if he's allowed in the hall of fame.[/quote]

If he starts smoking crack now, that won't keep him out of the hall of fame, he is not in football anymore........

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[quote=Nomad;654854]If he starts smoking crack now, that won't keep him out of the hall of fame, he is not in football anymore........[/quote]

Doesn't keep you out if you did it while still playing.
[IMG]http://lashawnbarber.com/images/irvin.jpg[/IMG]

Being racist doesn't affect it either:
[url=http://isteve.blogspot.com/2006/11/michael-irvin-on-tony-romo.html]Steve Sailer's iSteve Blog: Michael Irvin on Tony Romo:[/url]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;654832]I didn't know Marvin Harrison had a brother[/quote]
He had a 1/2 brother which is either dead on in jail.

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[quote=Buster;654857]Doesn't keep you out if you did it while still playing.
[IMG]http://lashawnbarber.com/images/irvin.jpg[/IMG]

Being racist doesn't affect it either:
[URL="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2006/11/michael-irvin-on-tony-romo.html"]Steve Sailer's iSteve Blog: Michael Irvin on Tony Romo:[/URL][/quote]

That to me was more of a back handed complement if anything. I think the word racist gets thrown around just a little to much.

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[quote=firstdown;654870]He had a 1/2 brother which is either dead on in jail.[/quote]

Why does that not suprise me???????

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[quote=firstdown;654877]That to me was more of a back handed complement if anything. I think the word racist gets thrown around just a little to much.[/quote]

Yeah suggesting his greatgrandma had an adulterous affair with a black guy, and that [B]explains his mobility because he sure dont look like a guy who can run[/B]. Certainly not racist.

While i agree people love to throw around racism, this is one. Anyone see how Al Sharpton been defending that senator Reid, hilarious.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;654821]If he took out a drug dealer that was actually threatening to cause problems, i don't have a huge problem with it. Not as much as if he was going out and driving drunk, or harming law abiding citizens. It's not right that he took things into his own hands like that, but this just doesn't rank that highly on my outrage meter.

edit- that was a really good read, thanks for posting SS.[/quote]

If only he lived in the early colony times or the wild west. He would have been a hero.

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Just watched the E-60 piece on Harrison.. It is ashame that he has gottn away with Murder! They say the quiet one's are the worst

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Harrison should be in jail doing hard time. He's nothing but a hood rat.

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[quote=Buster;654857]Doesn't keep you out if you did it while still playing.
[IMG]http://lashawnbarber.com/images/irvin.jpg[/IMG]

Being racist doesn't affect it either:
[URL="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2006/11/michael-irvin-on-tony-romo.html"]Steve Sailer's iSteve Blog: Michael Irvin on Tony Romo:[/URL][/quote]

Irvin wasn't being racist and we all know Irvin is not a racist. What he saying is Romo has some color in his game. I actually found it funny. In this soceity it's OK for a black man to say those things. If a white guy says it he gets fired. It's certainly not right but that's the way it is.

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Maybe , just maybe .... Al Davis hires Vinny and signs Harrison to a contract .... sarcasim

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[quote=firstdown;654827]Did I miss something because I never saw where they matched the gun to the bullets.[/quote]

Now that the FBI have been asked to get involved in this particular case, they won't rest until they get to the bottom of it.

I haven't been able to understand how with eye-witness testimony, ballistics test showing the shots fired came from a gun registered to Harrison, why some form of charges never were presented to a jury by the Philadelphia District Attorney's office. The Feds. are much more effecient in their investigative procedures and I look for a resolution where all the facts will be eventually revealed.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;654821][B]If he took out a drug dealer that was actually threatening to cause problems, i don't have a huge problem with it. Not as much as if he was going out and driving drunk,[/B] or harming law abiding citizens. It's not right that he took things into his own hands like that, but this just doesn't rank that highly on my outrage meter.

edit- that was a really good read, thanks for posting SS.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Just curious, do you think Bruce Smith is a worse person? He has been charged 3 times with DUI and been convicted once.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/14/bruce-smith-pleads-guilty-yo-dui/]Bruce Smith pleads guilty to DUI | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;655015][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Just curious, do you think Bruce Smith is a worse person? He has been charged 3 times with DUI and been convicted once.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/14/bruce-smith-pleads-guilty-yo-dui/]Bruce Smith pleads guilty to DUI | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

I can't say who's a worse or better person, i can only say how i feel about a given action. In this case, yeah, to me the three dui's are a bigger problem because they are putting innocent people in harm's way. From the sounds of that article, there weren't too many innocent folks around, since everyone involved not named marvin is either dead or in jail (the baby being the exception, and of course that is the only negative to this situation in the end).

If Marvin felt this clown was dangerous and that he wasn't going to stop being a threat, I can definitely understand his actions. Every guy here has had issues with someone that just wasn't going to leave it alone until things got physical. To me, this is just a furthering of that situation.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;654821]If he took out a drug dealer that was actually threatening to cause problems, i don't have a huge problem with it. Not as much as if he was going out and driving drunk, or harming law abiding citizens. It's not right that he took things into his own hands like that, but this just doesn't rank that highly on my outrage meter.

edit- that was a really good read, thanks for posting SS.[/quote]

So you buy the "famous pieces of sh** killing not so famous pieces of sh** is no big thing" argument and the fact that he indiscriminately sprayed a street with gunfire striking innocent people does not "rank that highly on [your] outrage meter"?

Treat pieces of sh** with sh** justice and they will act accordingly.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;655018]So you buy the "famous pieces of sh** killing not so famous pieces of sh** is no big thing" argument and the fact that he indiscriminately sprayed a street with gunfire striking innocent people does not "rank that highly on [your] outrage meter"?

Treat pieces of sh** with sh** justice and they will act accordingly.[/quote]

I hear you, but in reality, a person is either a positive or a negative in this world. Last time I checked, the subtraction of a negative resulted in a net gain. If you honestly expect the police to get as worked up over a drug dealer getting killed as an innocent person, I think you're dreaming. I don't have any issue at all with the way the police and DA referred to the parties involved. They're just calling them what they are. Drug dealing criminals are pieces of shit. You can't break the law your whole life and then try to hide behind it when your lifestyle catches up to you. We're all where we are because of the choices we've made, and this guy's got him killed. The only part of that story that is "outrageous" is the baby being harmed. Obviously the parents were high quality individuals since they took off not worrying about the infant in the back seat.