Landry for Rhodes?
 

Looks like the jets are willing to trade Kerry Rhodes , apparently Ryan wants a more agrresive safety... Well how bout landry for Rhodes? Could we do it and would you do? [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/26/rhodes-sheppard-among-jets-expected-to-take-off/]Rhodes, Sheppard among Jets expected to take off | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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I'd do that in a heartbeat. I could see why that would be appealing to the Jets, but we would be ripping them the heck off.

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I like Landry (unlike a lot here), I think he will do much better next year, and has the potential to be one of the best. Just like how we were ready to write carlos rogers off, then he "got it", I think Landry falls under this catagory. That being said, I would agree with gtripp, I'd do it too. But I certainly would not be upset by keeping Landry.

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[quote=jsarno;658358]I like Landry (unlike a lot here), I think he will do much better next year, and has the potential to be one of the best. Just like how we were ready to write carlos rogers off, then he "got it", I think Landry falls under this catagory. That being said, I would agree with gtripp, I'd do it too. But I certainly would not be upset by keeping Landry.[/quote]Rogers "got it"? He's okay but he's not great.

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Shoot, we could use all those guys.

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Ah, no. Let's see, LL is 2 years younger, faster, and can be trained to do better than he has last year. Sorry, I would rather keep a fixable LL than trade him.

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[quote=saden1;658362]Ah, no. Let's see, LL is 2 years younger, faster, and can be trained to do better than he has last year. Sorry, I would rather keep a fixable LL than trade him.[/quote]

I agree despite his problems they are fixable.

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[quote=saden1;658362]Ah, no. Let's see, LL is 2 years younger, faster, and can be trained to do better than he has last year. Sorry, I would rather keep a fixable LL than trade him.[/quote]It's not like we're old at the safety position though. Freakin Reed Doughty has tenure.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;658359]Rogers "got it"? He's okay but he's not great.[/quote]

But he was horrible, then went to better than average. The point isn't that Rogers became a stud, just that it took him a little time to "get it". Landry is about to "get it" IMO.

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[quote=saden1;658362]Ah, no. Let's see, LL is 2 years younger, faster, and can be trained to do better than he has last year. Sorry, I would rather keep a fixable LL than trade him.[/quote]


I would do it on a new York minute, He may be younger but I saw Jason Witten leave Landry in the dust, so faster, I would disagree

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I hate maddenesque trade ideas.

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Only if the Jets throw in Leon Washington in addition.

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[quote=GTripp0012;658355]I'd do that in a heartbeat. I could see why that would be appealing to the Jets, but we would be ripping them the heck off.[/quote]

I tend to agree. I am done with Landry's neanderthal approach to the position.

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No way!!! IMO Landry has not reached his top as a player and can be better in the right defense. I would like to see how he does in the new system and hopefully in the right position (strong safety).

I would like for us to sign Anthony Bethea or Ryan Clark, if either of the two hit the free agent market. Until Laron plays SS, the position for which he was drafted it is not smart to trade him. It's like the example of Antrel Rolle for the Cardinals, not until he was switched to FS did he start to make an impact. He was a bust at CB, star at safety.

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Why bother with a trade? There is a strong chance that the Jets will cut Rhodes. Then we could sign him, if we wanted, and not give up anything.

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A) Is Horton going to be our starter next year at FS or LaRon?
B) Is Rhodes a better FS than LL?
C) If A & B are true, than lets trade Laron for him and a few picks
D) It's prefectly fine if we don't do C) because we have LARGER needs at other positions, safety we have depth, especially at SS

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[quote=BallzDeep;658387]I would do it on a new York minute, He may be younger but I saw Jason Witten leave Landry in the dust, so faster, I would disagree[/quote]

that has more to do with route running and playing coverage

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[quote=CultBrennan59;658401]A) Is Horton going to be our starter next year at FS or LaRon?
B) Is Rhodes a better FS than LL?
C) If A & B are true, than lets trade Laron for him and a few picks
D) It's prefectly fine if we don't do C) because we have LARGER needs at other positions, safety we have depth, especially at SS[/quote]

What few picks are you thinking of? this isn't madden. That would be a straight up deal, no way in hell do we get multiple picks out of it.

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Landry hasn't endeared himself to us, that's for sure. His lowlights have not been followed by highlights much the last couple years. He should be on the verge of maturing though, you'd have to if you keep seeing film of yourself getting burnt, committing dumb penalties, etc. So I would say no to such a trade unless they gave up more.

On the subject of safeties, I've noticed that a few here have said it is a position of need. I'm surprised at that. I think it's one of the deepeset positions on the team. I think Kareem Moore has looked good & will earn more pt next year, plus Horton & Doughty at SS. The rook Holmes might be able to stick around too.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;658403]that has more to do with route running and playing coverage[/quote]

i agree. i'd like to see LL playing close to the line and blitzing more often.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;658405]What few picks are you thinking of? this isn't madden. That would be a straight up deal, no way in hell do we get multiple picks out of it.[/quote]

like a 5th and/or a 7th...or just a 3rd...Laron has potential and is a former first rounder. Rhodes is a 4th rounder I believe, and his potential is pretty much reached

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ha..no way in hell the Jets do this

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Laron is a natural SS. He's a beast and isn't afraid to plant his nose in a pulling guards chest. He makes too many mistakes in open space (bad angles and going for big hits) so limit the amount of space he plays in.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;658409]like a 5th and/or a 7th...or just a 3rd...Laron has potential and is a former first rounder. Rhodes is a 4th rounder I believe, and his potential is pretty much reached[/quote]

Who's played more like a 1st rounder? Where a player was drafted should not/does not have anything to do with their value once they've played for a few years. After that, they are what they are... Landry's about a 4th rd pick for all the big plays we've gotten out of him. And that's as a matador, 5th as a safety.

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He is without a doubt much more effective closer to the line, but it just burns me to know that he had played FS in college, and isin't much better at it.

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[quote=Lotus;658395]Why bother with a trade? There is a strong chance that the Jets will cut Rhodes. Then we could sign him, if we wanted, and not give up anything.[/quote]

Bingo.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;658413]ha..no way in hell the Jets do this[/quote]

I'm amazed this thread got to this point without someone pointing this out, and ridiculing all those involved in a serious discussion over a possible Landry - Rhodes trade.

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[quote=Schneed10;658430]I'm amazed this thread got to this point without someone pointing this out, and ridiculing all those involved in a serious discussion over a possible Landry - Rhodes trade.[/quote]

how bout campbell for manning, now that is a trade worth talking about :)

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[quote=mlmdub130;658431]how bout campbell for manning, now that is a trade worth talking about :)[/quote]

Great, so we can have more years of "we don't have a vocal QB leader" blah blah blah.

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[quote=Ruhskins;658433]Great, so we can have more years of "we don't have a vocal QB leader" blah blah blah.[/quote]

or we could trade campbell for drew brees

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I would trade Landry for a bologna sandwich and an orange tic tac.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;658439]I would trade Landry for a bologna sandwich and an orange tic tac.[/quote]

orange is so overrated, and landry isn't that bad, you could easily get a club w bacon and a pack of tic tacs

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[quote=mlmdub130;658440]orange is so overrated, and landry isn't that bad, you could easily get a club w bacon and a pack of tic tacs[/quote]

Orange tic tacs are solid tacklers and don't get easily beat by the double move. LOL.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;658439]I would trade Landry for a bologna sandwich and an orange tic tac.[/quote]

:rofl:

Best...post...EVER!

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[quote=mlmdub130;658431]how bout campbell for manning, now that is a trade worth talking about :)[/quote]

I like campbell..but i would love for this to happen

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[quote=rbanerjee23;658476]I like campbell..but i would love for this to happen[/quote]

:doh:

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Yeah, it's a dumb thread in so far as this isn't going to happen (players at the same position are virtually never traded for each other in the NFL, only recent trade I can think of off the top of my head is Coles for Moss) but the implied question, whether you would theoretically rather have Landry or Rhodes, is interesting. For me it's a no-brainer, Rhodes by a mile. For those who defend LL, if he wasn't the sixth pick in the draft would you still be talking about his potential? I mean, for all the discussion of what a big fast strong athlete he is (and I guess he jumped high at the combine or whatever) he doesn't look that fast out there to me. He looks like a guy. He gets burned, he gets run over, he misses tackles. He's just a body. Even back when ST was getting caught out of position, before he had learned Williams' defense, you could still see he was a superior athlete. I think if you didn't know that Landry had been a high draft pick you would be hard-pressed to identify him as someone with potential.

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[quote=Schneed10;658478]:doh:[/quote]

What? I agree with him :silly:

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the safeties work their butts off here...it's the Giants who need wholesale change at safety...they were awful

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[quote=djnemo65;658479]Yeah, it's a dumb thread in so far as this isn't going to happen (players at the same position are virtually never traded for each other in the NFL, only recent trade I can think of off the top of my head is Coles for Moss) but the implied question, whether you would theoretically rather have Landry or Rhodes, is interesting. For me it's a no-brainer, Rhodes by a mile. For those who defend LL, if he wasn't the sixth pick in the draft would you still be talking about his potential? I mean, for all the discussion of what a big fast strong athlete he is (and I guess he jumped high at the combine or whatever) he doesn't look that fast out there to me. He looks like a guy. He gets burned, he gets run over, he misses tackles. He's just a body. Even back when ST was getting caught out of position, before he had learned Williams' defense, you could still see he was a superior athlete. I think if you didn't know that Landry had been a high draft pick you would be hard-pressed to identify him as someone with potential.[/quote]

Good post, it's only been 3yrs maybe with a more agressive DC he'll look better.