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SFREDSKIN 01-31-2010 01:00 PM

New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
A lot of players in the NFL have this kind of attitude, while there are others (Fletcher) who are appreciative of being selected after being overlooked for years. It's sad.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/McKinnie-gets-booted-off-NFC-Pro-Bowl-roster?urn=nfl,216654]McKinnie gets booted off NFC Pro Bowl roster - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

GMScud 01-31-2010 01:21 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
The pro-bowl has always been a joke, but like your thread title suggests, it's at an all time low. There's been at least a half dozen guys selected for the pro-bowl this year who are suddenly "injured" and can't play. Then you get another half a dozen from the Super Bowl teams who need to be replaced. Now this thing with McKinnie (Julius Peppers also missed a practice unexcused).

I mean, I'm sure these guys are happy to be named Pro-bowlers, but NO ONE gives a sh*t about playing in the game. Let's be honest, the only reason participation by selected players has been so high in the past in because the games has always been in Hawaii.

I'm going to the movies tonight with my fiancee. I have zero desire to watch the game.

Edit: I just read that 31 players originally selected will not play because of the Super Bowl and injuries. 31!!! What a joke. It's like the JV pro-bowl.

Bushead 01-31-2010 01:24 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
For some odd reason, I thought the changes to have it one week before the superbowl was a good idea. I never watched it because after the superbowl, football is done for me. I wish they would open it up to make it more competitive though.

tryfuhl 01-31-2010 02:16 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Looks like a spot just opened up for Heyer!

SBXVII 01-31-2010 02:19 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Do we really care? The Pro Bowl is a joke. In most cases they are trying to protect the players from getting hurt so certain plays are off limits. Certain blocks are off limits. The big supprise was when Taylor decleated the punter. Otherwise its practically two hand touch.

Where the big stink should come from is Minn. The whole team should be embarrassed cause one of their own couldn't live up to the hype.

Lotus 01-31-2010 02:23 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Perhaps the Pro Bowl should be played in the preseason or in mid-season like the MLB All-star game.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-31-2010 02:29 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=GMScud;659388]I'm going to the movies tonight with my fiancee. I have zero desire to watch the game.[/quote]

The Pro Bowl is a joke, but I watch it simply because I won't get to watch London Fletcher and Brian Orakpo play next weekend. :( I'll take what I can get.

tryfuhl 01-31-2010 02:45 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Lotus;659401]Perhaps the Pro Bowl should be played in the preseason or in mid-season like the MLB All-star game.[/quote]
I don't think that ANYBODY would play in it mid-season

pre-season is kind of interesting, it skews the voting and everything though.. too many off-season changes unless you vote RIGHT before it. due to free agency, cap cuts, etc

Daseal 01-31-2010 03:08 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Someone on the radio suggested that the Pro Bowl be played the week after the super bowl, and that it should be played overseas instead of a team losing a home game.

This, in turn, would have players excited for the the pro bowl (new city, bigger buzz about the game for ex-pats overseas/football fans, etc.) I think this is a great idea. I hate teams losing a home game overseas, and this makes the pro bowl interesting. Even the best players want a free trip overseas.

Dirtbag59 01-31-2010 03:31 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Daseal;659407]Someone on the radio suggested that the Pro Bowl be played the week after the super bowl, and that it should be played overseas instead of a team losing a home game.

This, in turn, would have players excited for the the pro bowl (new city, bigger buzz about the game for ex-pats overseas/football fans, etc.) I think this is a great idea. I hate teams losing a home game overseas, and this makes the pro bowl interesting. Even the best players want a free trip overseas.[/quote]

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GusFrerotte 01-31-2010 03:38 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=GMScud;659388]The pro-bowl has always been a joke, but like your thread title suggests, it's at an all time low. There's been at least a half dozen guys selected for the pro-bowl this year who are suddenly "injured" and can't play. Then you get another half a dozen from the Super Bowl teams who need to be replaced. Now this thing with McKinnie (Julius Peppers also missed a practice unexcused).

I mean, I'm sure these guys are happy to be named Pro-bowlers, but NO ONE gives a sh*t about playing in the game. Let's be honest, the only reason participation by selected players has been so high in the past in because the games has always been in Hawaii.

I'm going to the movies tonight with my fiancee. I have zero desire to watch the game.

Edit: I just read that 31 players originally selected will not play because of the Super Bowl and injuries. 31!!! What a joke. It's like the JV pro-bowl.[/quote]


Good call GM, your fiancee is a lucky woman. Could never see why folks would want to watch such a meaningless game either. The NFL should just do like the NCAA does, just name All Americans and let them meet the president or something. The honor itself is what matters. Give the players a ring. Having themelves get beat up for another 60 minutes isn't much of a reward.

GusFrerotte 01-31-2010 03:39 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Lotus;659401]Perhaps the Pro Bowl should be played in the preseason or in mid-season like the MLB All-star game.[/quote]


You might be on to something LOTUS. Have the Pro Bowl as the Hall of Fame Game.

GusFrerotte 01-31-2010 03:44 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Daseal;659407]Someone on the radio suggested that the Pro Bowl be played the week after the super bowl, and that it should be played overseas instead of a team losing a home game.

This, in turn, would have players excited for the the pro bowl (new city, bigger buzz about the game for ex-pats overseas/football fans, etc.) I think this is a great idea. I hate teams losing a home game overseas, and this makes the pro bowl interesting. Even the best players want a free trip overseas.[/quote]


Dude, they might as well just go back to Hawaii. It is overseas and is an absolute paradise. Nothing, I mean nothing compares to it!!!!! If you can't get players to go to Hawaii with their gf, wife or kids, nothing is going to motivate them to go. Europe is cold as hell in February. Africa is just a dump, along with most of Central and South America. Uruguay and Argentina are nice, but Hawaii beats them hands down. Belize is nice, but I am not sure they have a decent stadium.

skinsfan69 01-31-2010 03:59 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=GMScud;659388]The pro-bowl has always been a joke, but like your thread title suggests, it's at an all time low. There's been at least a half dozen guys selected for the pro-bowl this year who are suddenly "injured" and can't play. Then you get another half a dozen from the Super Bowl teams who need to be replaced. Now this thing with McKinnie (Julius Peppers also missed a practice unexcused).

I mean, I'm sure these guys are happy to be named Pro-bowlers, but NO ONE gives a sh*t about playing in the game. Let's be honest, the only reason participation by selected players has been so high in the past in because the games has always been in Hawaii.

I'm going to the movies tonight with my fiancee. I have zero desire to watch the game.

Edit: I just read that 31 players originally selected will not play because of the Super Bowl and injuries. 31!!! What a joke. It's like the JV pro-bowl.[/quote]

I agree. Not only is it a total joke but look at two of the AFC QB's. Vince Young and David Garrard. lol. Goddell needs to just realize that having the game during the SB week only waters it down more than it already is. Either go back to the old way or just do away w/ it all together.

skinsfan69 01-31-2010 04:04 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;659418]Dude, they might as well just go back to Hawaii. It is overseas and is an absolute paradise. Nothing, I mean nothing compares to it!!!!! If you can't get players to go to Hawaii with their gf, wife or kids, nothing is going to motivate them to go. Europe is cold as hell in February. Africa is just a dump, along with most of Central and South America. Uruguay and Argentina are nice, but Hawaii beats them hands down. Belize is nice, but I am not sure they have a decent stadium.[/quote]

Yeah going to play a game in cold rainy London or Berlin really doesn't seem like a good idea.

Lotus 01-31-2010 04:12 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;659417]You might be on to something LOTUS. [B]Have the Pro Bowl as the Hall of Fame Game.[/B][/quote]

That's a pretty good idea.

tryfuhl 01-31-2010 04:17 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Daseal;659407]Someone on the radio suggested that the Pro Bowl be played the week after the super bowl, and that it should be played overseas instead of a team losing a home game.

This, in turn, would have players excited for the the pro bowl (new city, bigger buzz about the game for ex-pats overseas/football fans, etc.) I think this is a great idea. I hate teams losing a home game overseas, and this makes the pro bowl interesting. Even the best players want a free trip overseas.[/quote]
sweet idea

I'm sure people would take hawaii over london any day though.. not to mention it's still domestic, guys don't have to do as much travel-wise to prepare for it.. oh and the weather and relaxation are great after a long hard season that ends in winter.. who wants to play in rain when it's absolutely brutal outside in europe or something?

mlmdub130 01-31-2010 04:55 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
the pro bowl has turned into a joke it is just like the nba all star game/dunk contest, it used to mean something now it is just a popularity contest and with it being open to fan voting just demeans it further, it should be left to the writers, i have more respect for players that make the all pro team than i do for any of the over hyped guys that make the probowl

MTK 02-01-2010 08:20 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Just keep it in Hawaii the week after the SB. The game is more about the players anyway, the fans are just never going to care no matter how hard the league tries.

mredskins 02-01-2010 08:27 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
I watched about 30 minutes of it. Just watch the lines during a play, they barely even touch each other! They just stand up out of their stance and play patty cakes.

Was there even a sack recorded?

MTK 02-01-2010 08:39 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
The "effort" on D is always a joke. They might as well just take the pads off and play flag football.

freddyg12 02-01-2010 08:47 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;659417]You might be on to something LOTUS. Have the Pro Bowl as the Hall of Fame Game.[/quote]

Don't think any coaches would go for having their star players missing a week of camp & valuable prep. time to go to the pro bowl.

Chevy13 02-01-2010 09:10 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Not like he belonged there to begin with

MTK 02-01-2010 09:14 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=freddyg12;659555]Don't think any coaches would go for having their star players missing a week of camp & valuable prep. time to go to the pro bowl.[/quote]

Plus it would just be weird since a bunch of guys would be on other teams, so would they wear their old helmet or their current one?

Chevy13 02-01-2010 09:15 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
I haven't watched the Pro Bowl in years, the only thing I use to kind of enjoy were the challenges like the QB and WR challenges, even then most of them didn't really try but I still enjoyed it more than the actual game. Do they even do any of those challenges or drills anymore?

freddyg12 02-01-2010 09:20 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Mattyk;659558]Plus it would just be weird since a bunch of guys would be on other teams, so would they wear their old helmet or their current one?[/quote]

Wouldn't it be really weird if a player was released by the team that offseason. Not at all unrealistic given that many players are 2nd or 3rd alternates.

I guess in that case a player could wear an NFL logo helmet!

mredskins 02-01-2010 09:41 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
why was Vince Young there? I guess becasue everyone dropped out but in no way did he deserve a Pro Bowl selection this year.

that is the other BS part about it the big names drop out so guys like Young get a sympathy selection. I believe Gus got in this way too back in the day.

MTK 02-01-2010 09:44 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Yeah how about David Garrard being in there?

His 2009 stat line: 15 TD, 10 INT, 3597 yards

Pro Bowl? Really?

CRedskinsRule 02-01-2010 09:58 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
Well at least the cheerleaders are deserving!
[url=http://wjz.com/slideshows/miami.dolphins.cheerleaders.20.1460564.html]Pro Bowl Cheerleaders Wear Swimsuits On The Catwalk - Slideshows - Slideshow Viewer - wjz.com[/url]

Monkeydad 02-01-2010 11:07 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Mattyk;659553]The "effort" on D is always a joke. They might as well just take the pads off and play flag football.[/quote]

Except for Fletcher. He was all over the place. I was surprised to see him and Orakpo starting the game, but on that opening drive, Fletch made tackles on 3 consecutive plays. Probably though, because you're right and the other 10 guys on the D weren't trying.


It was nice to see Mario Williams crush Romo though. :)

Defensewins 02-01-2010 11:19 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Mattyk;659553]The "effort" on D is always a joke. They might as well just take the pads off and play flag football.[/quote]

They don't let the defense play bump and run coverage or blitz. Plus there is the whole 'don't hurt anyone' stigma attached to every tackle and potential hit.
Making for the the game to be really awful.
I think that is the type of game we are heading for in the NFL. All offense and scoring and no defense. Boring!

firstdown 02-01-2010 11:28 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Chevy13;659559]I haven't watched the Pro Bowl in years, the only thing I use to kind of enjoy were the challenges like the QB and WR challenges, even then most of them didn't really try but I still enjoyed it more than the actual game. Do they even do any of those challenges or drills anymore?[/quote]
Actually I think the QB's really want to win those skill games but they still remember its for fun and injoy themself.

BigHairedAristocrat 02-01-2010 11:37 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
did they actually play the pro-bowl this weekend? i didn't bother looking to see what time and channel it was on. now that i've probably missed it, i wonder if i actually missed anything. probably not.

Beneil (diehard since 87) 02-01-2010 11:38 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Mattyk;659564]Yeah how about David Garrard being in there?

His 2009 stat line: 15 TD, 10 INT, 3597 yards

Pro Bowl? Really?[/quote]

HA HA HA!!

Wait... was Campbell there!??! I didn't see the begining. I swear, so many people dropped out, i thought the new JV-Probowl would start Campbell VS Brady Quinn!

[quote=GusFrerotte;659417]You might be on to something LOTUS. Have the Pro Bowl as the Hall of Fame Game.[/quote]

THe Hall of Fame game is a great idea. (imo) fewer reasons for players to say no, especially if it's in Hawaii. It would be even more awesome if a player that retires, like Warner, playes in the HOF Pro-bowl and has second thoughts.

As for the mid season idea, I don't know how much that would help. I mean, how do you vote someone into the probowl 'mid season'? Seriously, that would brobably make it worse. Like Brady would play in a mid-season pro-bowl. Attendance would be the same or even more lame.

As for people playing like pansies and linemen doing patty-cake, lol, all i think of in that respect is #21 blasting a punter like he stole something!

(RIP#21)

tryfuhl 02-02-2010 10:44 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;659596]did they actually play the pro-bowl this weekend? i didn't bother looking to see what time and channel it was on. now that i've probably missed it, i wonder if i actually missed anything. probably not.[/quote]
[url=http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2010/02/pro-bowl-draws-highest-overnight-since.html]Sports Media Watch: Pro Bowl Draws Highest Overnight Since '00[/url]

BleedBurgundy 02-02-2010 11:18 AM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
I say get rid of the Pro Bowl entirely. Name an honorary team for player recognition, but then hold a series of skill competitions. I'd be much more interested in a foot race between Chris Johnson and Ted Ginn Jr, or a clocked "fastball competition" between Cutler and Stafford, or whomever. Takes away the risk of injury and there would be bragging rights.

firstdown 02-02-2010 12:53 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=Buster;659582]Except for Fletcher. He was all over the place. I was surprised to see him and Orakpo starting the game, but on that opening drive, Fletch made tackles on 3 consecutive plays. Probably though, because you're right and the other 10 guys on the D weren't trying.


It was nice to see Mario Williams crush Romo though. :)[/quote]
Not sure if I'd call that a crush but its always nice to see him get hit.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIcDBG7Q-5M"]YouTube - Mario Williams Pro Bowl Sack[/ame]

htownskinfan 02-02-2010 01:58 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=firstdown;659810]Not sure if I'd call that a crush but its always nice to see him get hit.
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIcDBG7Q-5M"]YouTube - Mario Williams Pro Bowl Sack[/url][/quote]

he looked like he was barely blocked on the play.I watched some of it and from what I saw it was a joke.I usually enjoy watching it but this yr seemed worse then its ever been,it looked like they were afraid to make contact.I cant blame them,but its just not good tv

Riggo44 02-02-2010 02:42 PM

Re: New low for NFL Pro Bowl
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;659565]Well at least the cheerleaders are deserving!
[url=http://wjz.com/slideshows/miami.dolphins.cheerleaders.20.1460564.html]Pro Bowl Cheerleaders Wear Swimsuits On The Catwalk - Slideshows - Slideshow Viewer - wjz.com[/url][/quote]

Wow just that slide show alone was better then the game. The body on that Jaguars cheerleader is ridiculous!!!:eek:


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