Dolphins likely to cut Porter before March
 

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Despite other media questioning the validity of my report, it was confirmed Monday -- by Porter himself. He went on the Jim Rome show and basically repeated most everything he told his hometown radio station, including the idea that the best thing to happen now is that he's traded.

"I mean, it would just kind of be the smart thing do," Porter said of a trade out of Miami.

Porter also confirmed the meeting with Sparano.

I have also confirmed that Monday's nationally telecast call for a trade didn't take the Dolphins by surprise. Porter, a league source told me, has told the Dolphins he would like to be traded.

But in going public with his desire in this and the Bakersfield, California radio interview, Porter has all but sealed his fate. Even though the Dolphins last week had not made up their collective minds that Porter had played his last game for Miami, that is changing.

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Any chance Miami would consider the 6th rounder of ours this year as the trade value, and just give him to us. They got the other guy back right, it only seems fair.

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How old is he now?

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he will be 33 at the start of next season.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;659777]he will be 33 at the start of next season.[/quote]

Do you he is still a pro bowl caliber player? Or is he on the decline?

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I really don't know, I know I wouldn't give any picks for him, I think we are fairly set at DE/OLB regardless of scheme. I just want to get something for our 6th round pick...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;659779]I really don't know, I know I wouldn't give any picks for him, I think we are fairly set at DE/OLB regardless of scheme. I just want to get something for our 6th round pick...[/quote]

Maybe the Fins will give us Jimmy Buffett. :)

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;659778]Do you he is still a pro bowl caliber player? Or is he on the decline?[/quote]

The reason why Porter is on the outs with the Fins is a bad attitude. He was suspended for such one game last year. If we get Porter, we're getting a known troublemaker.

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We dont need him...

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We could always use OLB help...that was a major need off season...and if we are toying with the 3-4 idea, we are lighter still. I would love this guy on the team for a couple years...trading for him is probably not an option considering how few picks we have.

He was drafted by Pittsburgh in Haslett's final year...he played on D and special teams that year for Haslett.

He has been shot, he has assaulted Levi Jones...lots of off the field garbage stuff. Shanny has a history of bringing on problem children...so...to me it seem that it certainly would be possible for this new regime to highly consider Joey Porter if he is released...as a starting OLB.

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I don't want this guy on our team. He is old and a Tool. If we are going to target a mlb in free agentcy we should go after D'Qwell Jackson. A young player who went to Maryland and before going on IR this year lead his team in tackles every year since his rookie season.

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Hell of a LB if we could get him for next to no money then give him a chance if he makes the team then oh well.

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I like Porter. Yeah he's getting up there age-wise but he can still play. And better yet, he'd bring some nastiness to our defense. I kind of like the fact that he isn't afraid of putting his foot in someone's ass. (He is a linebacker for shits-sake.) Barkley was known for periodically assaulting people and look at him - he's was one of the best forwards in NBA history. So let's sign the bad-ass LB to an incentive-laden contract if he's cut.

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NO way. Sign a 33 year old OLB?? Why??? Do we expect to replace the OLB position for ONE YEAR and go to the SuperBowl? No? -- well then, let's actually make FA moves that make sense long-term.

We already took Jason Taylor - look how that experiment went. Did nothing, cost a lot of money, and we gave him back to Miami.

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[quote=ethat001;659911]NO way. Sign a 33 year old OLB?? Why??? Do we expect to replace the OLB position for ONE YEAR and go to the SuperBowl? No? -- well then, let's actually make FA moves that make sense long-term.

We already took Jason Taylor - look how that experiment went. Did nothing, cost a lot of money, and we gave him back to Miami.[/quote]

Jason Taylor is a different scenario. JT is a tweener DE/OLB and we tried to force him into our mold of a run-stuffing DE which he isn't. Porter is an OLB and would make sense IF WE SWITCH TO A 3-4. There won't be very many quality FA in an uncapped year (as I understand it) so signing Porter (a guy who had 17.5 sacks 2 years ago) to an incentive-laden contract would make sense. Even if we gave him a big, one-year deal - who cares? It's Danny's money and you know he'll spend it. Why wouldn't you want to add a guy with that can produce big numbers?

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No, we shouldn't sign Porter!

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We do not need any part of Joey Porter. We need to be getting younger...not older.

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I take him for a small one year deal, to teach us the 3-4 and give us a fiesty ness on defense, but I don't care if he doesn't come here.

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Im with Die Nasty here. He cant hurt, and Im sure if we switch to a 34, he might be able to teach Orakpo some tips on the position. But if he starts any shit, or gets into any trouble, his ass is on the curb with no money. Gotta get that in his contract, or no dealio.

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So do the people that want a whole bunch of young guys realize that the only players we're going to be able to get as UFAs are going to be in their 30s? A lot of young and good free agents are going to be RFAs.

That being said, Porter will likely get cut by Miami and it would not be a bad pick up [B][U]for cheap[/U][/B].

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[quote=Ruhskins;659949]So do the people that want a whole bunch of young guys realize that the only players we're going to be able to get as UFAs are going to be in their 30s? A lot of young and good free agents are going to be RFAs.

That being said, Porter will likely get cut by Miami and it would not be a bad pick up [B][U]for cheap[/U][/B].[/quote]

Good point. I'm with some others here in indicating that we might want to embrace a few geriatrics. Our roster is so thin in places that we will need such help, to add depth if nothing else. As long as they are signed to short contracts and not projected as long-term starters, there is no problem. We can get younger with progressive offseasons. Can anyone disagree with the point that a still-capable 31-year-old offensive lineman (or two) might have come in handy last year?

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Porter is an a**hole. No need to bring him in.

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Why would you want to give up a draft pick for an over the hill guy? We need to get over the over reliance on free agency if we are going to change things, or more accurately, to get smarter with FA acquisitions. Who knows, our 6th round pick might end up being the next Ken Harvey or Darrell Green. Porter has pretty much shot his bolt.

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i'd rather have rolando mcclain or brandon spikes...maybe not spikes unless it's in the 4th round.

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no thanks. we dont need any more prima donnas or over the hill players. pass.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;659967]Why would you want to give up a draft pick for an over the hill guy? We need to get over the over reliance on free agency if we are going to change things, or more accurately, to get smarter with FA acquisitions. Who knows, our 6th round pick might end up being the next Ken Harvey or Darrell Green. Porter has pretty much shot his bolt.[/quote]
I def wasn't suggesting that we trade for him/give up any picks

especially if he's cut...

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If he's cut why not give him a look? He's still a very productive player.

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no way people. He is 33! not that its too old to play, but why must we be the ones to overpay for overaged players. We have moved past that strategy and will hopefully find young talent in the draft. question could be made for depth, but he doesn't want to be a part-time player. He has said he will not be anything but a starter. We have LB depth. Chris Wilson, I think can be a very good OLB in the 3-4 set. He is quick, and can rush the passer. McIntosh could be/should be moved inside with London and keep Orakpo, Wilson, Carter on the OLB spot. Could even play Carter at DE and mix it up from time to time.

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I don't have a problem with bringing him in. If they want to go to a 3-4 it always helps to bring in some older players who know the defense. Every team adds players like this at the begining of a new regime. However, I am talking about as a free agent...I would not give a draft pick for him.

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Any particular reason he wants to leave Miami? I thought he was doing well there.

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[quote=#56fanatic;660020]no way people. He is 33! not that its too old to play, but why must we be the ones to overpay for overaged players. We have moved past that strategy and will hopefully find young talent in the draft. question could be made for depth, but he doesn't want to be a part-time player. He has said he will not be anything but a starter. We have LB depth. Chris Wilson, I think can be a very good OLB in the 3-4 set. He is quick, and can rush the passer. McIntosh could be/should be moved inside with London and keep Orakpo, Wilson, Carter on the OLB spot. Could even play Carter at DE and mix it up from time to time.[/quote]

oh boy...London Fletcher is will be 35 soon and just made the pro bowl...this guy has been to a couple already...any complaints about Fletcher?

C'mon dude...the "age" thing is BS. He is a proven OLB especially in a 3-4 and learned it as a rook under Haslett.

The only difference is the guy is a pain off the field and rubs people the wrong way...Shanny doesn't have problems picking up less than perfect citizens...get used to it...Shanny is Not Gibbs...character is secondary to him.

Sure the guy is 2-3 years max...but it is instant production, who gives a crap when if the team ends up carrying 8 LBs if one or two are in their mid 30s...when does it make sense to keep old guys? When they are pro-bowlers.

I am not totally into this guy or anything...but look at last years greatest needs...OLB, Oline...neither were really addressed and the need still exists...expecially if you add another LB slot due to scheme...ya, we got away with a bit using Orapko at LB...but that was very risky and I don't even know if that is a long term solution...so arguably, we could use 2 starting OLBs this off season....where are you gunna get them...2 starters from the draft with 5 picks? unlikely.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;660048]Any particular reason he wants to leave Miami? I thought he was doing well there.[/quote]

I believe Miami started publicly talking trade and he jumped on it saying "me too" This is all pure speculation. Miami will likely get a low pick for him.

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Yeah as long as you don't give him a ridiculous contract why not? He keeps himself in great shape and is still a productive player. I don't see why he couldn't have another 2-3 quality seasons left.

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Im down for rebuilding with youth, not bringing in older vets with proven attitude problems. When you bring in young guys and college players you always need older vets for to help teach and show leadership in there areas...Oline, LB, Secondary, Receivers, etc. We have a great guy in London Fletcher already in our group of Linebackers. Bringing in Porter (great player no doubt) IMO doesnt add that type of guy we need add at this point. We are rebuilding this coming year and the following most likely, he will be 33, and I am positive he will not play for peanuts, he wants to make some money no doubt. I'm aware there is no salary cap next year, but I feel it will be back and no need to load up on bloated salaries on older players at this point.

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[quote=skinsnut;660050]oh boy...London Fletcher is will be 35 soon and just made the pro bowl...this guy has been to a couple already...any complaints about Fletcher?

C'mon dude...the "age" thing is BS. He is a proven OLB especially in a 3-4 and learned it as a rook under Haslett.

The only difference is the guy is a pain off the field and rubs people the wrong way...Shanny doesn't have problems picking up less than perfect citizens...get used to it...Shanny is Not Gibbs...character is secondary to him.

Sure the guy is 2-3 years max...but it is instant production, who gives a crap when if the team ends up carrying 8 LBs if one or two are in their mid 30s...when does it make sense to keep old guys? When they are pro-bowlers.

I am not totally into this guy or anything...but look at last years greatest needs...OLB, Oline...neither were really addressed and the need still exists...expecially if you add another LB slot due to scheme...ya, we got away with a bit using Orapko at LB...but that was very risky and I don't even know if that is a long term solution...so arguably, we could use 2 starting OLBs this off season....where are you gunna get them...2 starters from the draft with 5 picks? unlikely.[/quote]
It's not fair to compare Fletcher and Porter. Fletcher is the total professional. He is a leader on and off the field. No personality disorders. Porter is a head case. Another prima dona. That is the type of cancer that the Redskins is trying to separate itself from. I would rather see the Skins draft a rookie with potential and character.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;660055]It's not fair to compare Fletcher and Porter. Fletcher is the total professional. He is a leader on and off the field. No personality disorders. Porter is a head case. Another prima dona. That is the type of cancer that the Redskins is trying to separate itself from. I would rather see the Skins draft a rookie with potential and character.[/quote]

Well said.

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Didn't we have this same conversation about Jason Taylor 2 seasons ago? You would think we've learned something from that experience. Old players are crap and waste of roster spot...I hope the new staff doesn't repeat the same mistakes.

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We're lucky Vinny is gone...with the expectations that Porter will be cut in the next 2 months, he'd be scrambling to package 3 years of draft picks together for Porter in a trade.

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if he came cheap why not

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[quote=saden1;660065]Didn't we have this same conversation about Jason Taylor 2 seasons ago? You would think we've learned something from that experience. Old players are crap and waste of roster spot...I hope the new staff doesn't repeat the same mistakes.[/quote]

this is true but porter will probably go to dallas anyway