Michael Vick available...again
 

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According to sources, Michael Vick has made it public that he wants a trade out of Philly. Andy Ried assured Vick that he will be traded before the draft in April. I could see him going to St. Louis, Minnesota, Buffalo, Oakland, or (gulp) Washington to fill in now while a starter is groomed. He was under-used in Philadelphia, and could have the potential to become an average to good QB. Does anybody see him landing here or would anyone want him?

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no thank you, he was not a good qb back then and is even worse now, hopefully the new brain trust is beyond a stupid move like getting rid of draft picks for old washed-up felons

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Here's an interesting article about the Redskins "Other" option at QB. Scroll down to 2nd article.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/rich_tandler]CSNwashington.com: Rich Tandler[/url]

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[quote=53Fan;660167]Here's an interesting article about the Redskins "Other" option at QB. Scroll down to 2nd article.

[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/rich_tandler"]CSNwashington.com: Rich Tandler[/URL][/quote]

This would be the best scenario, IMO..

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Keep Michael Vick far away from Washington. Th only QB's more overrated then Vick are Bradshaw and Namath. Campbell is 10 times the QB Vick is. Vick is a 50% passer that can occasionally break a big gain with his feet. He is by no means a QB where you can put the team on his back. Vick's career high completion percentage? 56.4% with 2,313 yards in 2004.

Heck Vick had a 46.2% completion percentage this year in limited action throwing mainly dump off passes.

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If Dan Snyder ever wants to realistically challenge my allegiance to the Washington Redskins he should by all means sign Michael Vick.

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Call me naive, but I have to believe that in the Bruce Allen era we no longer have to worry about doing completely insane counter-intuitive moves just for the sake of doing them.

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vick is a bumb we dont want his ilk on the team

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good luck elsewhere to him

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He's not coming here, let's not even start with that.

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So is Ryan Leaf.

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This is the one thread where I would actually prefer Campbell.

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[quote=Longtimefan;660191]So is Ryan Leaf.[/quote]


There is our back up competition. I bet the guy still has something left in the tank. Hell I think we should give him a shot!

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[quote=redskinjim;660178]vick is a [B]bumb[/B] we dont want his ilk on the team[/quote]
what is this bumb you talk about?

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[quote=dmek25;660202]what is this bumb you talk about?[/quote]

Actually I'm pretty curious about this "ilk".

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Vick doesn't have "IT" anymore. No thanks.

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Trade four first round picks for Vick.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;660206]Vick doesn't have "IT" anymore. No thanks.[/quote]

Vick never had "IT".

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[quote=WaldSkins;660208]Vick never had "IT".[/quote]

Seriously?

He WAS an unbelievable play-maker when he played for the Falcons. He took them to the NFC champ in 2004 and he scored 29 total TDS and rushed for over 1,000 yds in 2006.

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Nothing against Vick, but I don't want to send picks to the Iggles. If he gets cut, I would like to give him a look in FA, though I don't know if he is a good fit in Shanny's system.

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[quote=Lotus;660207]Trade four first round picks for Vick.[/quote]

We need more ammo. Throw in FedEx field. We'll play at DeMatha for a few years.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;660213]Seriously?

He WAS an unbelievable play-maker when he played for the Falcons. He took them to the NFC champ in 2004 and he scored 29 total TDS and rushed for over 1,000 yds in 2006.[/quote]

I always envisioned our QB making plays with his arm. If I wanted a QB who could run we could just draft Tebow.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;660222]We need more ammo. Throw in FedEx field. We'll play at DeMatha for a few years.[/quote]

We could just return to RFK.

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[quote=WaldSkins;660224]We could just return to RFK.[/quote]

Dude that is not your average high school stadium.
[IMG]http://www.muyfootball.org/images/e%20live.jpg[/IMG]

Seriously what the hell? How does a high school get that for their football stadium?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;660225]Dude that is not your average high school stadium.
[IMG]http://www.muyfootball.org/images/e%20live.jpg[/IMG]

Seriously what the hell?[/quote]

Actually I think that the stadium would get much more roudy then Fed Ex.

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[quote=WaldSkins;660226]Actually I think that the stadium would get much more roudy then Fed Ex.[/quote]

Probably lots of Cow Bells and screaming >>>>>>>>> Soulja Boy on Repeat

Then again we haven't had a lot to cheer about these days. Hard for fans to get excited about the prospect of 8-8 every year.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;660229]Probably lots of Cow Bells and screaming >>>>>>>>> [B][B]Soulja Boy[/B][/B] on Repeat

Then again we haven't had a lot to cheer about these days. Hard for fans to get excited about the prospect of 8-8 every year.[/quote]

Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!

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[quote=Lotus;660207]Trade four first round picks for Vick.[/quote]

And two pitbulls...


bad joke I know..

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;660213]Seriously?

He WAS an unbelievable play-maker when he played for the Falcons. He took them to the NFC champ in 2004 and he scored 29 total TDS and rushed for over 1,000 yds in 2006.[/quote]

29 tds as a qb is ok, but I would not say he has "It". 40 year old Farve has it. 33tds this year. Yes the dude was a playmaker, but he has never won anything. Yeah he got close, but so did Mark Brunel. Does/ Did he have "it"? And Considering he threw his career away for dog fighting i would definately not consider him an "it" guy. The guy who has "it" is dedicated to the game, loves playing it, and wouldn't risk it running an illegal enterprise.

I do appluade MV for turning his life around and I wish him all the best where ever he lands. As long as it is not in the NFC East.

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[quote=WaldSkins;660223]I always envisioned our QB making plays with his arm. If I wanted a QB who could run we could just draft Tebow.[/quote]

Tebow won't have the same success running the ball in the NFL. He's a tough guy and a great college player but I don't think he has the speed to do what he did in college.
If he makes it as a NFL QB, I'm sure he can buy time with his feet and pick up a couple first downs/game with his feet but that's a big if. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of confidence in him making the transition.
As far as Vick goes, he WAS AT ONE TIME an unbelievable offensive threat. I'm sure he kept opposing defensive coordinators up at night trying to figure out how to slow him down. I don't think he'll put up the same numbers as a starting QB anymore. I don't think he'd be a good fit in Washington either.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;660234] The guy who has "it" is dedicated to the game, loves playing it, and wouldn't risk it running an illegal enterprise.
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While he didn't run an enterprise I would say that LT had his own demons. Love some of the stories about that guy though, like sending hookers to the hotels of the opposing team the night before games.

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A dog fighting kennel like his would be considered an "illegal enterprise".

And yes I find the old LT stories funny, and that was more of a guy having to much fun! He was a partier, and a good one. The 80s were a different time to.

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80's was about enjoying life. Rather have Rozell than Goodell as Commish. Goodell has taken the fun out of the NFL by making it more corporate and PC.

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I am not making a case for signing Vick here; however I have to disagree w/ the consensus on Vick's ability and his future.

It's been widely reported, and confirmed, that during his 1st tenure in the league Vick 1) rarely practiced 2) never studied film 3) didn't really learn the playbook 4) didn't make a commitment to develop chemistry w/ his WR corp 5) partied a ton and basically didn't focus on football.

...and yet, the dude still managed to win a lot of games on a crappy team. Has Vick likely lost some physical prowess? Probably. But there is little doubt the dude has tremendous athletic ability and talent. There's also little doubt he knows this is his only chance to be great again, so I'd bet the farm Vick 1) practices his ass off 2) studies film constantly 3) memorizes the playbook 4) develops chemistry w/ his WR corp 5) FOCUSES ON FOOTBALL.

If he does these things I think he becomes a solid passer, like over 60% completion the first year. I think it's more likely he's a stud than a dud...

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Goat

The guy wasn't a passer period. Do you think he is going to all of a sudden become a model QB student of the game after all these years? Hard work, study flim, etc? You kidding me? Vick can't take all the blame for his condition. VA Tech didn't do the guy any favors by giving him everything(chicks, probably $, etc) including a free pass in terms of academics just so he could rake in the dough for them. Can't teach a guy who has been given everything up front, and has relied solely on his athletic ability to all of a sudden become a hard worker. The guy is a journeyman QB from here on out

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[quote=GusFrerotte;660259]Goat

The guy wasn't a passer period. Do you think he is going to all of a sudden become a model QB student of the game after all these years? Hard work, study flim, etc? You kidding me? Vick can't take all the blame for his condition. VA Tech didn't do the guy any favors by giving him everything(chicks, probably $, etc) including a free pass in terms of academics just so he could rake in the dough for them. Can't teach a guy who has been given everything up front, and has relied solely on his athletic ability to all of a sudden become a hard worker. The guy is a journeyman QB from here on out[/quote]

You may be exactly right Gus. I'm just saying Vick damn well knows he's got one chance to become a marque player again. Yes I think he's gonna focus on football because otherwise he'll never again have the success, or the fan support, or the money (which he badly needs I understand).

...as the zen master says, we'll see :)

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Here we go again. Ugh.

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There are a few QBs i would look at before i looked at Vick, including (in no particular order): Mark Brunell, Seneca Wallace, Mike Teal, Charlie Batch, dennis dixon, rex grossman, dan orlovsky, kerry collins, tavaris jackson, sage rosenfels, caleb hanie, jt o sullivan, jesse palmer, jordan palmer, chase daniel, patrick ramsey, brian brohm, chris simms, tom brandstater, derek anderson, brady quinn, brett ratliff, byron leftwich, josh johnson, brian st pierre, billy volek, charlie whitehurst, brodie croyle, matt gutierrez, curtis painter, jim sorgi, jon kitna, stephen mcgeepat white, tyler thigpen, chris redmen, john parker wilson, john david booty, shaun hill, nate davis, david carr, luke mccown, kellen clemons, eric ainge, kevin o connell, daunte culpepper, drew stanton, matt flynn, jake mccown, aj feeley, brian hoyer, charlie frye, jamarcus russell, kyle boller, keith null, troy smith, john beck, jeff garcia, jp losman, rhett bomar, gibran hamden, hunter cantwell, andre woodson, dj shockley, jason campbell, todd collins, colt brennan, sam bradford, jimmy clausen, brett favre, troy aikman, conan obrien, jay leno, a monkey, mark wahlberg, those are just a few off the top of my head :-D

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[quote=Dirtbag359;660225]Dude that is not your average high school stadium.
[IMG]http://www.muyfootball.org/images/e%20live.jpg[/IMG]

Seriously what the hell? How does a high school get that for their football stadium?[/quote]
Successful schools tend to have successful alumni and area boosters, much like college programs. When you can get an area hyped about football you sell a shitton of tickets and the people who have become movers and shakers will cut you a pretty check.

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[quote=PHazard;660775]There are a few QBs i would look at before i looked at Vick, including (in no particular order): Mark Brunell, Seneca Wallace, Mike Teal, Charlie Batch, dennis dixon, rex grossman, dan orlovsky, kerry collins, tavaris jackson, sage rosenfels, caleb hanie, jt o sullivan, jesse palmer, jordan palmer, chase daniel, patrick ramsey, brian brohm, chris simms, tom brandstater, derek anderson, brady quinn, brett ratliff, byron leftwich, josh johnson, brian st pierre, billy volek, charlie whitehurst, brodie croyle, matt gutierrez, curtis painter, jim sorgi, jon kitna, stephen mcgeepat white, tyler thigpen, chris redmen, john parker wilson, john david booty, shaun hill, nate davis, david carr, luke mccown, kellen clemons, eric ainge, kevin o connell, daunte culpepper, drew stanton, matt flynn, jake mccown, aj feeley, brian hoyer, charlie frye, jamarcus russell, kyle boller, keith null, troy smith, john beck, jeff garcia, jp losman, rhett bomar, gibran hamden, hunter cantwell, andre woodson, dj shockley, jason campbell, todd collins, colt brennan, sam bradford, jimmy clausen, brett favre, troy aikman, conan obrien, jay leno, a monkey, mark wahlberg, those are just a few off the top of my head :-D[/quote]

Can you put these in order from highest to lowest on your wish list?