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CultBrennan59 02-15-2010 07:27 PM

LT for Portis?
 
I have a few straight up deals that popped through my head:

Ladian Tomlinson for Clinton Portis?

Brandon Marshall and Chris Kuper for Santana Moss and Carlos Rogers (throw in Randel El if we have to)?

Kerry Rhodes for LaRon Landry?

Do you think any of these will happen or should happen?

Skinny Tee 02-15-2010 07:45 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;663301]I have a few straight up deals that popped through my head:

[B]Ladian Tomlinson for Clinton Portis?[/B]

Brandon Marshall and Chris Kuper for Santana Moss and Carlos Rogers (throw in Randel El if we have to)?

Kerry Rhodes for LaRon Landry?

Do you think any of these will happen or should happen?[/quote]

Sure...while we're at it why don't we trade the Chargers 6 of our eggs for a half dozen of theirs?

JLW428 02-15-2010 07:59 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;663307]Sure...while we're at it why don't we trade the Chargers 6 of our eggs for a half dozen of theirs?[/quote]
:lol:

CultBrennan59 02-15-2010 08:06 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
^^ the point is to give two franchise backs a change of team, which they both need IMO. Plus Shanny doesn't seem to be big on Portis and according to league sources and peter king, Shanny loves LT. Thats why I came up with this scenario.

GridIron26 02-15-2010 08:39 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;663314]^^ the point is to give two franchise backs a change of team, which they both need IMO. Plus Shanny doesn't seem to be big on Portis and according to league sources and peter king, Shanny loves LT. Thats why I came up with this scenario.[/quote]

Well, you have right idea, in general.. But LT is more likely to be released (based on the rumors), so why would we should attempt to try and trade for him? Beside I'm pretty sure Chargers would not want to take on Portis's contract, especially when LT's financial situation is the main reason why he might be released..

Smooter 02-15-2010 08:46 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
I'd trade Portis for Lawrence Taylor.

Chico23231 02-15-2010 09:00 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
Trading player(s) for player(s) is rare in the NFL. Draft pics for player(s) is the more likely scenario. I dont think anybody is stupid enough to get Portis in a trade. First he is about done, second his contract, and third is he probably(hopefully) gonna be released anyways.

Longtimefan 02-15-2010 09:08 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
LT may not have much left in the tank, and like Grid Iron26 mentioned, he may be a candidate for release. I would like to see us do the same thing with Portis and make an effort to sign Chester Taylor.

SmootSmack 02-15-2010 09:35 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
I think Laurence Maroney and Marshawn Lynch will be a couple of backs to keep an eye on

GMScud 02-15-2010 09:45 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
Kerry Rhodes for Laron Landry? Well, the Jets already have a safety suited to play up closer to the line of scrimmage who can't cover very well (Leonhard). Not sure why they'd want to add a hot head who can't cover his eyes and has no clue what tackling means.

And sorry, but Santana Moss and Carlos Rogers aren't worth Brandon Marshall by himself, let alone a package deal with Kuper. "Throw in Randle El if we have to" ???? Dude, I would trade Randle El for a side of rice pilaf at this point.

LT for Portis? Two high-mileage backs pretty far past the prime of their careers. I'd say it's an even swap, except LT has more character in his big toe than Portis has in his whole body.

I'd take all of these trades. Unfortunately we need to get Mike Tannenbaum, AJ Smith, and Brian Xanders high on crack to have a chance.

Slingin Sammy 33 02-15-2010 11:15 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=GMScud;663341]I'd take all of these trades. Unfortunately we need to get Mike Tannenbaum, AJ Smith, and Brian Xanders high on crack to have a chance.[/quote]
These trades worked in Madden Franchise mode (Salary cap - Off) without any crack involved :silly:

tryfuhl 02-15-2010 11:46 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
back for a back, safety for a safety.. what?

Ruhskins 02-15-2010 11:47 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;663362]back for a back, safety for a safety.. what?[/quote]

Do people know this is the NFL and not the NBA? Just checking.

53Fan 02-15-2010 11:49 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=Longtimefan;663331]LT may not have much left in the tank, and like Grid Iron26 mentioned, he may be a candidate for release. I would like to see us do the same thing with Portis and make an effort to sign Chester Taylor.[/quote]

I think the Viking are going to try to retain Taylor. He has low miles for his age. I like the way you think.

CultBrennan59 02-15-2010 11:57 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=53Fan;663364]I think the Viking are going to try to retain Taylor. He has low miles for his age. I like the way you think.[/quote]

I read somewhere that Taylor said that he's wanted to play in washington for awhile, plus peter king has DC as a possibility for taylor, so this could definitley happen.

tryfuhl 02-15-2010 11:58 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;663363]Do people know this is the NFL and not the NBA? Just checking.[/quote]
hahaha same thing I was thinking.. would sprinkle in a couple no names to complete the deal

tryfuhl 02-16-2010 12:00 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=53Fan;663364]I think the Viking are going to try to retain Taylor. He has low miles for his age. I like the way you think.[/quote]
Yeah, Peter King listed us, detroit, and san diego as possible places for him if he didn't re-sign

sportscurmudgeon 02-16-2010 12:07 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;663301]I have a few straight up deals that popped through my head:

Ladian Tomlinson for Clinton Portis?

Brandon Marshall and Chris Kuper for Santana Moss and Carlos Rogers (throw in Randel El if we have to)?

Kerry Rhodes for LaRon Landry?

Do you think any of these will happen or should happen?[/quote]



LT for CP: Will it happen? No. Would I take the deal if the Chargers made the offer? You bet I would...


Marshall and Kuper for Moss and Rogers: Will it happen? No. Would I take the deal if the Broncos made the offer? You bet I would... And if the Broncos would also take ARE off the Skins' hands, I'd send the team and the coaching staffs several cold kegs of beer to celebrate the end of a long day of training camp next summer.


Rhodes for Landry: Will it happen? Highly unlikely. Would I take the deal if the Jets made the offer? Probably - - unless Haslett is commited to putting Landry back at SS in his new defense. In that case I would turn down the offer.

53Fan 02-16-2010 12:10 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;663370]Yeah, Peter King listed us, detroit, and san diego as possible places for him if he didn't re-sign[/quote]

Maybe, but they do want him back.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/14/vikings-will-give-favre-time-want-taylor-back/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Vikings will give Favre time, want Taylor back «[/url]

Ruhskins 02-16-2010 12:12 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=53Fan;663377]Maybe, but they do want him back.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/14/vikings-will-give-favre-time-want-taylor-back/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Vikings will give Favre time, want Taylor back «[/url][/quote]

Very few UFAs that are attractive candidates are going to be available for teams (i.e. Dansby). All the good ones will likely be tagged by their teams (i.e. 49ers' Franklin, Pats' Wilfork).

Beneil (diehard since 87) 02-16-2010 12:13 AM

LT for Portis! YAY!! Wait, now or 3 years ago?
 
This is hilarious! I don't know what you guys are smokin. LT has more 'mileage' on him than CP, is older, and is consistantly dead when the playoffs come around. I mean, if CP is no spring chicken, LT probably owes Moses from a card game. I'm just sayin, asside from Portis' mouth, every issue against CP can be used against LT. By RB standards they are both old (LT is older), Both have mutiple seasons of 300+ carries (LT has more), they both are injury prone (LT is less likely to play through), both have ran,caught, and thrown TD passes, and both cost a nice chunk of change and are worth every dime IF HEALTHY. LT has superior stats in almost every category... keep in mind that he had the benifit of being in a great offense, better QB, better o-line, and better HBs to share his load. On the other side.

2 or 3 years ago, i probably wouldn't complain about this idea, but i would rather have an unproven young back we may build on, than a proven older back that probably can help us get a playoff berth, but won't play in them.

djnemo65 02-16-2010 12:15 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=tryfuhl;663368]hahaha same thing I was thinking.. would sprinkle in a couple no names to complete the deal[/quote]

Don't forget some expiring contracts :)

tryfuhl 02-16-2010 12:16 AM

Re: LT for Portis! YAY!! Wait, now or 3 years ago?
 
[quote=Beneil (diehard since 87);663380]This is hilarious! I don't know what you guys are smokin. LT has more 'mileage' on him than CP, is older, and is consistantly dead when the playoffs come around. I mean, if CP is no spring chicken, LT probably owes Moses from a card game..[/quote]
That beef was squashed when Moses pulled a gun on him in the locker room thousands of years ago.

djnemo65 02-16-2010 12:17 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
My favorite part of this thread is when the OP asks "do you think any of these will happen...?"

SolidSnake84 02-16-2010 07:15 AM

Re: LT for Portis! YAY!! Wait, now or 3 years ago?
 
[quote=Beneil (diehard since 87);663380]
2 or 3 years ago, i probably wouldn't complain about this idea, but i would rather have an unproven young back we may build on, than a proven older back that probably can help us get a playoff berth, but won't play in them.[/quote]

I agree with this fully, and this same logic is why CP should not be the primary back next season for us. If the team made the playoffs somehow next year, CP would likely be too hurt/banged up, to have a serious role in them....

diehardskin2982 02-16-2010 11:42 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
this thread is a case of the grass is greener on the other side. I'd like to see what our players can do when they are coached up here, not somewhere else.

SirClintonPortis 02-16-2010 12:39 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
Waste of time.
Portis for Scheffler and Hillis. ;)

sportscurmudgeon 02-16-2010 01:06 PM

Re: LT for Portis! YAY!! Wait, now or 3 years ago?
 
[quote=Beneil (diehard since 87);663380]This is hilarious! I don't know what you guys are smokin. LT has more 'mileage' on him than CP, is older, and is consistantly dead when the playoffs come around. I mean, if CP is no spring chicken, LT probably owes Moses from a card game. I'm just sayin, asside from Portis' mouth, every issue against CP can be used against LT. By RB standards they are both old (LT is older), Both have mutiple seasons of 300+ carries (LT has more), they both are injury prone (LT is less likely to play through), both have ran,caught, and thrown TD passes, and both cost a nice chunk of change and are worth every dime IF HEALTHY. LT has superior stats in almost every category... keep in mind that he had the benifit of being in a great offense, better QB, better o-line, and better HBs to share his load. On the other side.

2 or 3 years ago, i probably wouldn't complain about this idea, but i would rather have an unproven young back we may build on, than a proven older back that probably can help us get a playoff berth, but won't play in them.[/quote]


Not smoking anything at this end. LaDanian Tomlinson has always been a better RB than Clinton Portis - - and even in these sutumn days of their careers, he is still better. Neither is a feature back anymore who will carry the ball 300 times in a season; nevertheless, LT is better.

Oh, and one more thing. LT is not a pain-in-the-ass diva who causes locker room problems.

The question was whether or not you would make the even up trade of Portis for Tomlinson. If I am the Redskins, my answer is "You Betcha!!"

Beneil (diehard since 87) 02-16-2010 05:14 PM

Re: LT for Portis! YAY!! Wait, now or 3 years ago?
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;663478]Not smoking anything at this end. LaDanian Tomlinson has always been a better RB than Clinton Portis - - and even in these sutumn days of their careers, he is still better. Neither is a feature back anymore who will carry the ball 300 times in a season; nevertheless, LT is better.[/quote]

I'm not gonna go as far as to say that CP is better than LT. But i WILL say that it is an unfair comparison. LT was in a FAR better offense. It's like saying Emmit Smith was better than Barry Sanders. Looking back at stats alone, yeah, Emmit broke records, but don't ignore his insane o-line and HOF teamates. Any of Barry's teamates in the HOF!? Heck no! If Emmit was a Lion, he woundn't have lasted more than 3 seasons. If Barry was a Cowboy, (i would've wet my pants twice a year) and he would've gotten back to back 2,500 yard seasons. If Portis was a Charger, he may not have had the exact same SEASON stats, but he definalty would have more post season stats being that LT is always warming a bench in the layoffs. LT can make a great offense even better, but Portis can give a bad offense a fighting chance.

sandtrapjack 02-16-2010 05:29 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
Portis for LT, no way. Nothing against CP and LT, but why trade age and mileage for age and mileage? LT has had a stellar career. But unfortunately "what you have done" is way different then "what can you do for the length of that new contract". Thats all that matters to GM's. LT was great, but will he still produce for 4 to 6 more years, which might be the length of a contract.

And I do not wish Brandon Marshall on anyone. He's got skills, but what a major league pain in the butt he is. Not worth the trouble as they are finding out in Denver.

You can throw that old cliche "change of scenery" or "fresh new start" around all you want. But dip a turd in solid gold, and at the end of the day it is still a turd.

CRedskinsRule 02-16-2010 07:28 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;663455]this thread is a case of the grass is greener on the other side. I'd like to see what our players can do when they are coached up here, not somewhere else.[/quote]

This is to diehard and SirClintonPortis -- what's up with the Zorn avatar???

Just curious why you are keeping it, do you want him back.


As for LT/CP. Lets just keep CP till we get the newest young buck. Not really into many trades of age for age.

SBXVII 02-16-2010 07:47 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;663314]^^ the point is to give two franchise backs a change of team, which they both need IMO. Plus Shanny doesn't seem to be big on Portis and according to league sources and peter king, Shanny loves LT. Thats why I came up with this scenario.[/quote]

So, trading one worn down tire with a plug in it with another tire with the same issue will solve some of our problems?

I'd rather see what we have with Ganther, Alridge, Mason, and whoever MS drafts this year. Lets get younger and healthier.

SirClintonPortis 02-16-2010 10:13 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;663691]This is to diehard and SirClintonPortis -- what's up with the Zorn avatar???

Just curious why you are keeping it, do you want him back.

[/quote]
I personally browse the forums with avatars off, so I don't even see it on my end, I'm a bit lazy, and I like to save bandwidth.

CRedskinsRule 02-16-2010 10:20 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;663728]I personally browse the forums with avatars off, so I don't even see it on my end, I'm a bit lazy, and I like to save bandwidth.[/quote]

Gotcha. I was just curious if there was a specific thing you still were emphasizing.

takethecake 02-16-2010 11:33 PM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
I'm actually kind of indifferent to chester taylor coming here... it'd be nice, but you know that shanny's gonna run a committee so it won't be a big impact or anything. Depends if we can get him cheap.

SmootSmack 02-17-2010 01:06 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4920302]CP for AC?[/url]

Skinny Tee 02-17-2010 01:37 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;663777][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4920302"]CP for AC?[/URL][/quote]

I'd do that in a New York minute.

I highly doubt they would consider Portis though.

Dirtbag59 02-17-2010 02:00 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
[quote=takethecake;663763]I'm actually kind of indifferent to chester taylor coming here... it'd be nice, but you know that shanny's gonna run a committee so it won't be a big impact or anything.[B] Depends if we can get him cheap.[/B][/quote]

Why would that matter when the salary cap is all but dead?

MTK 02-17-2010 08:10 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
Let's trade one broken down back for another. Makes sense to me.

Must really be the offseason eh?

SolidSnake84 02-17-2010 08:29 AM

Re: LT for Portis?
 
I was all for trading Portis earlier, but i'm not convinced he has any real value.

Physical limitation and injury concerns aside, i doubt any team would want him because of his attitude and the fact that he could be locker room trouble.

He would not be a good mentor for young players, and he just has no role on a team who is trying to be competitive...


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