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MTK 11-01-2004 11:25 PM

Go back to NASCAR
 
Somebody actually yelled this at Gibbs yesterday?

Wow, just blows my mind.

[url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14506-2004Oct31.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14506-2004Oct31.html[/url]

[quote]Like 86-year-old curses in Boston, 17 straight elections may be coincidental.
Either way, judging by the young man who yelled "Go back to NASCAR!" at the Redskins coach as he left the field yesterday, those "Joe Gibbs for President" placards at FedEx Field disappeared awfully quick.[/quote]

Gmanc711 11-01-2004 11:41 PM

WOW!

At least it was a young man, which I can partially understand being a young man myself who didnt have the pleasure of going through Gibbs first run here. Still though, show him some respect.

Now if you wanna yell at Brunell.....

flyfischer 11-01-2004 11:58 PM

Give the man a break...look at the injuries. He doesn't deserve that, and the more people yell it, the more he'll listen. I don't think anyone in DC wants him to leave again. Thats just a shame.

redwagonskins 11-02-2004 12:04 AM

Maybe the guy was a big NASCAR fan and wants him back in the sport. We all should have yelled "go back to football" when he first left!! ;)

JWsleep 11-02-2004 01:28 AM

Maybe the guy was a packer fan... they don't actually say. Skins fans may not be so hot on Brunnell as their QB, but they definetly know who they want as their coach: Mr. Joe Gibbs.

That's one decent thing about all this: no fear that Danny is going to undermine the coach this time. Like everyone else, he's going to have to show some patience and fortitude until things turn around.

Go back to NASCAR, my ass!

VTSkins897 11-02-2004 01:53 AM

plus it could have just been in the heat of the moment, we suck right now so who cares? prob. drunk and crap

4TH RING 11-02-2004 02:22 AM

:madani: (unf***enbelievable) If he really feels that way than he should just stay home or pick another team. What would possess a man to question Gibbs' coaching skills given the fact that his past records show his perserverence?

SUNRA 11-02-2004 08:43 AM

Someone should have put him or them in there place. Those who are too young to understand and appreciate this man should have their season tickets revoked and given to a lot of us who do understand and will appreciate the wins when they happen in bunches. Trying times like this separate the fake fans from the real fans. It's very easy to be a Redskin when you're winning. But losing is a whole different story.

Drift Reality 11-02-2004 08:59 AM

There are so many fans that are just morons and who don't see the big picture.

We finally have a coach who understands that you need to create an atmosphere of winning, not just throw together some funky plays (Spurrier) - now relax and let the man work for Christ's sake.

jbcjr14 11-02-2004 10:48 AM

No shizit Reality. You just nailed it....give the man some time as other posts have indicated previously it takes time to build the culture and get "redskins" in the mix. Also don't forget, this team has not been out of a game yet. Remember the Lavar interception for a TD vs the Panthers that turned that season around? I look for something like that to happen in the very near future.

Hang in everyone!!!! The good times are not far away!

ZackMills 11-02-2004 11:00 AM

Old Man doesn't have time to go back to NASCAR and take more time to "adapt." Maybe he should worry about visiting some top notch nursing homes.

Drift Reality 11-02-2004 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]Old Man doesn't have time to go back to NASCAR and take more time to "adapt." Maybe he should worry about visiting some top notch nursing homes.[/QUOTE]

I wish we had some automated "moron-filter" on this forum.

REDSKIN2 11-02-2004 12:41 PM

Look you are entitled to your opinion about Gibbs and his current coaching abilities and I can respect that. But don't insult the man. Regardless of whether or not he succeeds in getting this team back to where it used to be, the man is a HALL OF FAME COACH!!! with THREE SUPER BOWL TITLES to show for it. Very few coaches have that type of success in NFL history. This man put his record and reputation on the line to come back after 12 years to coach a 5-11 team because he loved the franchise and its fans and wants to return it to glory. He could have been selfish and egotistical and said no.

SHOW THE MAN SOME RESPECT YOU PUNK!!!!!!!!!!!

RedskinRat 11-02-2004 01:16 PM

[QUOTE=Drift Reality]I wish we had some automated "moron-filter" on this forum.[/QUOTE]

Just Kill File him like I did, then you don't have to read his posts.

Big C 11-02-2004 01:19 PM

thats pretty mean that the guy sed that

MTK 11-02-2004 01:30 PM

Click on his profile and then click add to your ignore list

SkinsRock 11-02-2004 03:28 PM

Maybe our buddy Zack is the one that said it....either him or Denim Monger...

RedskinRat 11-02-2004 03:33 PM

I doubt that the Sanitarium/Federal Prison allows either of them more than Internet Access. Both too anti-social for the general public.

celts32 11-02-2004 03:54 PM

I would like to ring that guys neck who said that...

RedskinRat 11-02-2004 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=celts32]I would like to ring that guys neck who said that...[/QUOTE]

You'll probably find that the guy suffers enough already what with raising 18 children that he's had with his sister.....

heybigstar 11-02-2004 05:57 PM

I love Joe Gibbs and the courage he has to return to DC, where we haven't been good since he left... He is not only a great coach, but maybe more importantly, a great person. God Bless him. Anyone who criticizes him is a fairweather (and not a real) Redskins fan. It will take time, but Joe Gibbs will make us competitive again. Its tough to compete in the NFL without good drafting. That started this year with Cooley and Taylor, but signing a team of free agents makes continuity nearly impossible.

heybigstar 11-02-2004 05:59 PM

Oh and one more thing, his name "ZachMills" is modeled after the former Urbana High School (near Fredrick) star QB, who may become one of the worst Starting QB's in Penn State history ... you think brunell is bad? lol

Skins1573 11-02-2004 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]Old Man doesn't have time to go back to NASCAR and take more time to "adapt." Maybe he should worry about visiting some top notch nursing homes.[/QUOTE]


:boxing: I wish u were hear so I could kick you ass. Shut the Fu*K up and go due all us a favor and leave. Sorry guys but it really makes me mad :madani: when so called skins fans say bad stuff about the team,
but especially about gibbs

ZackMills 11-02-2004 07:53 PM

[QUOTE] I wish u were hear so I could kick you ass. Shut the Fu*K up and go due all us a favor and leave. Sorry guys but it really makes me mad when so called skins fans say bad stuff about the team,[/QUOTE]

Ahhh, classic forum banter, claiming to be able to kick my ass. :Smoker:

Riggo44 11-02-2004 09:16 PM

I don't give a rats ass what anyone want's to say about Joe Gibbs! The man knows what he is doing. I for one am still very very grateful that he is are coach! As I know most of us are.
I just hope all the trash talkers are man enuogh to eat there crow when we start to win. And soon enough we will. :httr:

That Guy 11-03-2004 12:53 AM

ignore him, please don't feed the trolls.

Daseal 11-03-2004 08:15 AM

Heybigstar, just because someone criticizes the skins for their moves doesn't mean they're fairweather. I don't care how "great" of a man Gibbs is. He's not a coach to be a great man. He's here to win. I'm not saying I've given up on him, but there is certainly a wide variety of crticisms you can give about Gibbs. Clock Management, QBs, etc.

MTK 11-03-2004 08:31 AM

I don't care if someone wants to hand out some justified criticism, but at least back up your claims with a little more than 'he sucks'.

ZackMills 11-03-2004 10:02 AM

[QUOTE]I don't care if someone wants to hand out some justified criticism, but at least back up your claims with a little more than 'he sucks'.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm...the record isn't enough to say he sucks. And don't give me the B.S. of "Oh, when he first coached, he went 0-5, then the next year went to the SB." Stop living in the past people, wake up, and see he ain't got it no more. :cool-smil

MTK 11-03-2004 10:44 AM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]Hmmm...the record isn't enough to say he sucks. And don't give me the B.S. of "Oh, when he first coached, he went 0-5, then the next year went to the SB." Stop living in the past people, wake up, and see he ain't got it no more. :cool-smil[/QUOTE]
Sorry but no, the record isn't enough to say he sucks.

Answer me this, do you think the Rams should have fired Vermeil after his first two seasons when he won a total of 11 games?

:food-smil

celts32 11-03-2004 12:37 PM

This Zack guy is just yanking our chains. Honestly, no one could be stupid enough to believe the nonsense this guy is spouting...

ZackMills 11-03-2004 12:45 PM

[QUOTE]Answer me this, do you think the Rams should have fired Vermeil after his first two seasons when he won a total of 11 games?[/QUOTE]

Vermeil was not nearly as hyped as being a great coach like Gibbs has, nor were the Rams nearly as good on paper as the underachieving Skins are :cheers

MTK 11-03-2004 02:39 PM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]Vermeil was not nearly as hyped as being a great coach like Gibbs has, nor were the Rams nearly as good on paper as the underachieving Skins are :cheers[/QUOTE]
So do you think he should have been fired or not?

NY_Skinsfan 11-03-2004 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]So do you think he should have been fired or not?[/QUOTE]


Matty, it's useless...he just doesn't get it.

CRT3 11-03-2004 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]Vermeil was not nearly as hyped as being a great coach like Gibbs has, nor were the Rams nearly as good on paper as the underachieving Skins are :cheers[/QUOTE]
No the Rams were better. Go back to Urbana dude since that is the only type of football you understand

ZackMills 11-03-2004 04:07 PM

[QUOTE]So do you think he should have been fired or not?[/QUOTE]

I did not watch their games that year, nor can I remember them. I am sure that they learn from their mistakes, unlike Old Man has, so no, he should not have been fired. :Smoker:

MTK 11-03-2004 04:15 PM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]I did not watch their games that year, nor can I remember them. I am sure that they learn from their mistakes, unlike Old Man has, so no, he should not have been fired. :Smoker:[/QUOTE]So if Vermeil was given time to work things out why should we not give the same to Gibbs? 7 games isn't enough to fairly judge someone would you not agree?

:oink:

ZackMills 11-03-2004 04:49 PM

[QUOTE]So if Vermeil was given time to work things out why should we not give the same to Gibbs? 7 games isn't enough to fairly judge someone would you not agree?[/QUOTE]

I just feel that you guys are blindly following. If this were Spurrier, you guys would be calling for his head, but since Gibbs is the Almighty, you give him time. If he's the almighty, he should be winning now. Times have changed, the game has changed, and it has passed the Old Man by. :drink

illdefined 11-03-2004 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]I just feel that you guys are blindly following. If this were Spurrier, you guys would be calling for his head, but since Gibbs is the Almighty, you give him time. If he's the almighty, he should be winning now. Times have changed, the game has changed, and it has passed the Old Man by. :drink[/QUOTE]

three super bowl rings isn't blind. relying on college championships is. Gibbs won championships with non-superstar talent and for a very long time. the plays are all the same, just their frequencies and some rules have changed. coaching is about managing your personnel, dealing with people and yes adjusting to change.

the reason no one respects your argument is because you think someone proven to be UNSUCCESSFUL in the NFL is better than someone who's been proven to VERY successful. (and with Mark Rypien for heavens sake). to say a college coach with some of the best talent in the country who had two whole seasons in the NFL and FAILED over Joe Gibbs is about as blind as you can get. and i'm being kind.

MTK 11-04-2004 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=ZackMills]I just feel that you guys are blindly following. If this were Spurrier, you guys would be calling for his head, but since Gibbs is the Almighty, you give him time. If he's the almighty, he should be winning now. Times have changed, the game has changed, and it has passed the Old Man by. :drink[/QUOTE]
Regardless of who the coach is, it's only fair to give the guy an honest shot to build the team. 7 games and you're writing him off? That's a joke.

Who's claiming he's the almighty?? If you check out some of the predictions this summer here alot of people were predicting in the 8-9 win range, I don't think anybody realistically expected 13 wins and a Super Bowl win right off the bat.

He's not the almighty as you suggest, but the guy has quite the impressive track record and he's in the Hall of Fame. His resume buys alot of patience and respect with the fans, something you don't fully understand I guess.

How about we hold our judgements for 2-3 complete seasons to see if the old man has really lost it. Something tells me you'll be singing a different tune before long.


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