Maake Kemoeatu DT signs 2yr $7million deal
 

Filed to ESPN: Former Panthers DT Maake Kemoeatu signed a two-year, $7 million deal with the Redskins.

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Beat me to it. Odd decision in my mind, considering he apparently can't even pass a physical at this point

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just read it. I'm glad about that hopefully he can become healthy enough to make it on the field...

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Maake Kemoeatu | #99 | DT

Height: 6-5 Weight: 345 Age: 31
Born: 1/10/1979 Tonga
College: Utah
Experience: 9th season
High School: Kahuku HS [HI]

[QUOTE]
Former Carolina Panthers nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu.. ...[B][U]He sat out the 2009 season after tearing his Achilles' tendon in training camp and his recovery has been bumpy.[/U][/B].. Although Kemoeatu's initial surgery went well, he later [B][U]required a second procedure and still is not running[/U][/B]. But the Redskins are in the process of making a major shift from a 4-3 to a base 3-4 defense under new defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, so it makes sense to keep an eye on Kemoeatu, who was a force in the middle for Carolina. Kemoeatu had a base salary of $2 million last season.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/free-agency/nose-tackle-maake-kemoeatu-vis.html]Redskins Insider - Nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu visits Redskins[/url]
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Sounds somewhat risky -- a hefty contract for someone coming off two surgeries last year. I guess he looked good. I'd personally love to see some signings on the offensive line, but it seems they are being very deliberate and signing the guys they actually think can play.

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They must be confident that he will be back strong and ready to go.

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Oh sorry, not a Vet Min!!! lol Please this guy paired with AH when he becomes healthy is a dangerous combination

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Comment: Kemoeatu has excellent size and strength inside and he is a physical force in stopping the run. He has good recognition skills and hand use. He understands how to play with leverage and he can shed and make plays quickly in a short area. He lacks speed and range down the line of scrimmage but for his size he is surprisingly athletic. He can absorb double teams and hold his ground inside, allowing LBs to remain free in their path to the ball from behind. He is limited as a pass-rusher because of his lack of speed. He can be very powerful as an in-line rusher. Provides a good push up the middle as a bull-rusher but doesn't have a wide variety of moves to defeat blocks and get to the QB. Overall, he's a better run player than pass-rusher. Strong and powerful within a short area.

[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/players/scouting?playerId=4254]Maake Kemoeatu Scouting - Carolina Panthers - ESPN[/url]

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Well, looks like we have our front three...

Haynesworth DE, Kemoeatu DT, and Daniels DE.

I hope Kemoeatu heals up though.

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The guy is a load at 6-5, 345 lbs

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No CBA, we have the room to take a couple chances like this...y not, with all the salary we have cleared out, 7 mil 2years is no worry

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[quote=Ruhskins;672001]Well, looks like we have our front three...

Haynesworth DE, Kemoeatu DT, and Daniels DE.

I hope Kemoeatu heals up though.[/quote]

That is a very brittal group on paper lmao!

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If he's healthy it's a really solid signing. Seems to push Montgomery further out the door

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[quote=SmootSmack;672008]If he's healthy it's a really solid signing. [B]Seems to push Montgomery further out the door[/B][/quote]

Did he ever have his foot in the door to begin with? I could probably count on 2 hands how many times I've heard his named called since he's been with the team..

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[quote=Chico23231;672004]No CBA, we have the room to take a couple chances like this...y not, with all the salary we have cleared out, 7 mil 2years is no worry[/quote]

I agree. I also doubt that he's garaunteed anything in 2011 either. There's really no risk here, assuming our docs felt he had a good chance of getting healthy. If he is, then our starting 3-4 and 4-3 front 7 lineups are close to being set. Haynesworth will be playing 3-4DE/4-3DT and Orakpo will be right beside/behind him ... thats going to be scary. Really, we can now switch between 3-4 and 4-3 formations without having to change our personnel, since Orakpo would be our 3-4 linebacker and 4-3 DE. That statement about us running a 3-4 defense with a 4 man front makes alot more sense now.

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I know nothing about this guy - I do think I remember him getting injured though. How good was he before the injury?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672011]I agree. I also doubt that he's garaunteed anything in 2011 either. There's really no risk here, assuming our docs felt he had a good chance of getting healthy. If he is, then our starting 3-4 lineup is set. Haynesworth will be playing DE and Orakpo will be right beside/behind him... thats going to be scary. Really, we can now switch between 3-4 and 4-3 formations without having to change our personnel, since Orakpo would be our 3-4 linebacker and 4-3 DE. Haynesworth will be the 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT. That statement about us running a 3-4 defense with a 4 man front makes alot more sense now.[/quote]We face Dallas 2 times a year and you are STILL mystified at a 3-4 scheme using a four-man front even some of the time?

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[quote=SmootSmack;672008]If he's healthy it's a really solid signing. Seems to push Montgomery further out the door[/quote]

I've always thought too bad you can't give Montgomery the motor that Kedric Golston has. That would be a dangerous DT.

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We needed a NT and he's a good one, IMO. I'm confident that the Redskins did their due diligence in regard to his injury.

Big Al probably just exhaled a sigh of relief that he might not have to play NT. So did I because I think it would be a waste of his pass-rushing talent.

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^ he was very good... They felt soo good about him that they realesed Kris Jenkins

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If healthy this is a good pickup. He can play the middle and let AH play end...where he can be more of a difference maker. My main concern would be his health obviously and Daniels' age. I mean a 3-4 with those guys healthy is pretty damn stout but all 3 have injury concerns. Montgomery and Golston remain as solid backups I guess but Golston is undersized and Montgomery is under-motivated.

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[quote=Mattyk;672014]I've always thought too bad you can't give Montgomery the motor that Kedric Golston has. That would be a dangerous DT.[/quote]

No kidding

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He is a force in the middle! I'm glad we have him on board. If he is healthy that 3-4 defense maybe very dangerous. Hail!!!

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So bottom line -- I feel bad I don't know who this guy really is -- is he an upgrade over Griff? Provided he's healthy, of course.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;672013]We face Dallas 2 times a year and you are STILL mystified at a 3-4 scheme using a four-man front even some of the time?[/quote]

its a terminology i'm not used to, no. in fact, i havent seen it used anywhere else. if you can show me where its used commonly, i'd love to see it.

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[quote=12thMan;672023]So bottom line -- I feel bad I don't know who this guy really is -- is he an upgrade over Griff? Provided he's healthy, of course.[/quote]

considering Griff is barely 300lbs, i'd say so although i highly doubt Kemoeatu is expected to be a long-term solution. is this our first samoan player?

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[quote=12thMan;672023]So bottom line -- I feel bad I don't know who this guy really is -- is he an upgrade over Griff? Provided he's healthy, of course.[/quote]

Oh yeah. Griff isn't a 3-4 Nose. DTs are not equivalent to Nose tackles. Good Noses are maybe they most rare player in the league. They need to be big, strong and agile. There are like 5 that are any good and everyone else pretends. AH could be the best but it would be a waste of his talents. This guy is perfect. He's big and strong and has performed. Montgomery has the size but his lack of motor could kill him at Nose because it is a motor position. He'd need to light a serious fire under his ass to do it well. Otherwise he'd be one of the pretenders.

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Sounds like buying time until they can get a new guy up to speed at NT.

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[quote=FRPLG;672027]Oh yeah. Griff isn't a 3-4 Nose. DTs are not equivalent to Nose tackles. Good Noses are maybe they most rare player in the league. They need to be big, strong and agile. There are like 5 that are any good and everyone else pretends. AH could be the best but it would be a waste of his talents. This guy is perfect. He's big and strong and has performed. Montgomery has the size but his lack of motor could kill him at Nose because it is a motor position. He'd need to light a serious fire under his ass to do it well. Otherwise he'd be one of the pretenders.[/quote]

Sure I completely understand the difference between the two, just generally speaking it sounds like he's more effective at his position than Griff was/is at his. If that makes sense. I think you answered my question though.

I'm looking forward to seeing how he works out during training camp.

And no, this isn't our first Samoan player. Joe Salave'a was the first or at least the most recent.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;672029]Sounds like buying time until they can get a new guy up to speed at NT.[/quote]

We'll need to draft one. Good Nose tackles are as hard to find as good LTs. Maybe harder. They never hit the market unless they're old or have injury issues.

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Looks like the team did its homework with putting together this contract. Had this been a Vinny signing, of the 7 mil, 5 mil would have been guaranteed or something crazy like that.

From [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/maake-kemoeatu-defensive-linem.html"]Jason Reid[/URL]:

[QUOTE]Kemoeatu agreed to a two-year contract worth $7 million. Though an exact breakdown wasn't available, it's believed relatively little of the money is guaranteed. Because he's recovering from a severe injury, the contract is loaded with workout and roster bonuses. Put simply, if
Kemoeatu heals and plays, he gets paid.[/QUOTE]

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OT with our 1st, best NT/OT available with our 2nd, and RB with our 4th sure would make me happy on draft day.

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[QUOTE="BigHairedAristocrat"]

I agree. I also doubt that he's garaunteed anything in 2011 either. There's really no risk here, assuming our docs felt he had a good chance of getting healthy. If he is, then our starting 3-4 and 4-3 front 7 lineups are close to being set. Haynesworth will be playing 3-4DE/4-3DT and Orakpo will be right beside/behind him ... thats going to be scary. Really, we can now switch between 3-4 and 4-3 formations without having to change our personnel, since Orakpo would be our 3-4 linebacker and 4-3 DE. That statement about us running a 3-4 defense with a 4 man front makes alot more sense now.[/QUOTE]
Something positive from BHA??? What's this world coming to!!!

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672025]its a terminology i'm not used to, no. in fact, i havent seen it used anywhere else. if you can show me where its used commonly, i'd love to see it.[/quote]
They often just put rush OLB on the line. Yeah, sometimes he won't have his hand in the dirt with his linemates, but he's on the LOS.

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If shifting to the 3-4, a big 0 technique NT is needed to occupy 2 O-linmen on every play. This guy has that size and in the past has shown that motor.

But the fact that he only signed a two-year deal shows caution, which is a good thing.

But looking at his career I see a guy that has not been on a foootball field in a year. Has not been in on a sack in 5 years. When he was good, he was real good. As the Panthers defense was a good one when he was clogging up the middle. After he went down with that achilles, that defense suffered.

But a guy that big that has not been on a football field in over a year, that just screams of a big man that will take a lot of effort just to get back in football shape.

And as history shows, with an achilles tear, the rehab and return to action is approx 1 year. But it is not until the second year the player returns to form.

So signing just a 2 year deal was a smart move by the front office. A lot of wait and see wrapped up in this if you ask me.

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Eye towards the future hoping he'll have a full recovery. Two years at that amount seems to be a rather odd signing unless they anticipate him being able to go by September. He's a force when healthy.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;672051]If shifting to the 3-4, a big 0 technique NT is needed to occupy 2 O-linmen on every play. This guy has that size and in the past has shown that motor.

But the fact that he only signed a two-year deal shows caution, which is a good thing.

But looking at his career I see a guy that has not been on a foootball field in a year. Has not been in on a sack in 5 years. When he was good, he was real good. As the Panthers defense was a good one when he was clogging up the middle. After he went down with that achilles, that defense suffered.

But a guy that big that has not been on a football field in over a year, that just screams of a big man that will take a lot of effort just to get back in football shape.

And as history shows, with an achilles tear, the rehab and return to action is approx 1 year. But it is not until the second year the player returns to form.

So signing just a 2 year deal was a smart move by the front office. A lot of wait and see wrapped up in this if you ask me.[/quote]

I guess the upside, if there is any, about his injury is that it did occur during the first day of training camp last year.

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Looks like he's happy to get another shot and his agent seems to think the Skins structured his contract with an eye towards 2011. [url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kemoeatu-excited-about-being-a-Redskin.html]Kemoeatu excited about being a Redskin | National Football Post[/url]

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[quote=diehardskin2982;672006]That is a very brittal group on paper lmao![/quote]

man u could read that as brutal, or brittle, and both could very well be correct!

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Apparently his deal is full of incentives and bonuses, so there's not much guaranteed money. Smart deal by the Skins. Word is he won't be ready to go until training camp.

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[quote=SmootSmack;672008]If he's healthy it's a really solid signing. Seems to push Montgomery further out the door[/quote]

I certainly hope he will be able to go when the season starts, and maybe now Jason Reid won't have to continue to insist Haynesworth become a NT, something we all know would not be his favorite.

Montgomery was not a happy camper at times last year, so I'm wondering just how/where he's going to fit in this year.