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SmootSmack 03-14-2010 05:17 PM

Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
Cleveland gets FB Peyton Hillis and two conditional draft picks. Figured this was worth its own thread since there have been rumors of Quinn possibly coming here and Campbell to Cleveland (which is still possible)

Link coming soon

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 05:20 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
Just saw this (thanks to SirClintonPortis)

[url=http://twitter.com/Jay_Glazer/status/10484726078]Twitter / Jay Glazer: I'm reporting brady quinn ...[/url]

SirClintonPortis 03-14-2010 05:21 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
They have a nice backfield now in Cleveland. Jerome Harrison and Peyton Hillis.


Beat you by two minutes as well.

saden1 03-14-2010 05:23 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
LOL...the Broncos management has really gone to shit and in need of firing.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 05:35 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/14/browns-trade-brady-quinn-to-denver/]Browns trade Brady Quinn to Denver | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 05:36 PM

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What does this mean for Orton? I've always liked him for some reason. He's a pretty solid QB that gets no respect

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 05:39 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
So Schefter says the Browns got a 2011 6th round pick and a late 2012 pick, plus they traded LB Kamerion Wembley to the Raiders for a draft pick.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 05:41 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;673675]So Schefter says the Browns got a 2011 6th round pick and a late 2012 pick, plus they traded LB Kamerion Wembley to the Raiders for a draft pick.[/quote]

Wow the Browns are completely rebuilding. I don't blame them. I've also heard that S. Rogers could be dealt on draft day.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 05:43 PM

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What did OAK give up for Wimbley?

GusFrerotte 03-14-2010 05:45 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=saden1;673672]LOL...the Broncos management has really gone to shit and in need of firing.[/quote]


Yeah, that was a moronic move to say the least.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 05:46 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
I'd say Orton will be gone, I thought he did pretty good last yr.

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 05:48 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;673677]What did OAK give up for Wimbley?[/quote]

Not sure, but I think it was a 3rd round pick

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 05:49 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=SmootSmack;673681]Not sure, but I think it was a 3rd round pick[/quote]

I know they are looking to let Thomas Howard go, I wouldn't mind seeing him in WSH. Also SS What's the latest on Cooley? I have still heard a trade is possible for more draft picks.

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 05:55 PM

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Yeah I think someone the other day wrote that the Redskins should trade Cooley to the Pats for a couple of their 2nd round choices. But I haven't heard anything about him being on the market

12thMan 03-14-2010 05:56 PM

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12thMan is a terrible GM.

Link coming soon.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 05:57 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
Thanks SS, I Have mixed feelings on trading Cooley. Any ways John Clayton just said that Cleveland is looking hard at Clausen and Bradford and will try and move up. Wow the Browns are wealing and dealing

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 06:00 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;673685]Thanks SS, I Have mixed feelings on trading Cooley. Any ways John Clayton just said that Cleveland is looking hard at Clausen and Bradford and will try and move up. Wow the Browns are wealing and dealing[/quote]

I'd trade down to 7 with them and pick up a couple of their 3rd rounders

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 06:04 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=SmootSmack;673687]I'd trade down to 7 with them and pick up a couple of their 3rd rounders[/quote]

Honestly I think the Rams will take Bradford, from what I've heard here in Norman it's pretty much a "guaranteed" deal, but you never really know until the time comes. So lets say Sam's gone, at 4 we could pick Okung which would be great, but I think we could trade down to 6-7-8 and still pick him possibly. Or do we just pick Clausen at 4 and Trade JC? I'd like to keep Campbell for atleast 1 more yr though

JoeRedskin 03-14-2010 06:13 PM

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KC will take Okung at 5 if we don't take him at 4. Still, I'd drop down with Cleve. If Bradford is gone, Cleve may want to jump Seattle to have a shot at Clausen. If so, they may want our spot.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 06:15 PM

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If Clausen is there at 4 I really think we draft him. Shanny wants his QB of the future and I don't think JC is it. Or we keep JC for another season and look to upgrade at QB next yr.

Audi 03-14-2010 06:24 PM

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Is this a further indictment on Jason Campbell's value around the league? So far we have the Panthers preferring to stick with Matt Moore, the Cleveland Browns going with Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme, the Broncos preferring first Kyle Orton and now Brady Quinn, and of course the Bears preferring Jay Cutler.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 06:26 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=Audi;673697]Is this a further indictment on Jason Campbell's value around the league? So far we have the Panthers preferring to stick with Matt Moore, the Cleveland Browns going with Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme, the Broncos preferring first Kyle Orton and now Brady Quinn, and of course the Bears preferring Jay Cutler.[/quote]

I wound'nt say JC is not liked around the league, it's just these certain teams wan't a different direction than Campbell. Actually multiple sources have said the Bills are very interested in Campbell

Lotus 03-14-2010 06:29 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;673687]I'd trade down to 7 with them and pick up a couple of their 3rd rounders[/quote]

Heck yes. Two more #3's would be very helpful.

johno 03-14-2010 06:34 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=Audi;673697]Is this a further indictment on Jason Campbell's value around the league? So far we have the Panthers preferring to stick with Matt Moore, the Cleveland Browns going with Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme, the Broncos preferring first Kyle Orton and now Brady Quinn, and of course the Bears preferring Jay Cutler.[/quote]

it depends on how hard we are looking to trade JC. Last year obviously we were looking to replace him, but i havent seen that level of effort on our part to get rid of him. it may not be an indictment of JC, but rather a reflection on how the redskins front office is shopping him.

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 06:34 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;673691]KC will take Okung at 5 if we don't take him at 4. Still, I'd drop down with Cleve. If Bradford is gone, Cleve may want to jump Seattle to have a shot at Clausen. If so, they may want our spot.[/quote]

Or they might take Bulaga because of Haley's close connection to Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz, or they might go with ILB Rolando McClain

I honestly don't see Okung as being head and shoulders above Davis, Williams, Brown, or Bulaga. So I'd happily trade down three spots to get one of them and add extra picks

johno 03-14-2010 06:38 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;673704] I honestly don't see Okung as being head and shoulders above Davis, Williams, Brown, or Bulaga. So I'd happily trade down three spots to get one of them and add extra picks[/quote]


you are right on here SS. if bradford is gone and another team is looking to take clausen at 4, i would gladly take whoever between davis and bulaga is highest on shanny's board at 7ish. as we all have said previously, the more picks the merrier this year. Oline talent rich class.

Redskin Jim 03-14-2010 06:41 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;673704]Or they might take Bulaga because of Haley's close connection to Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz, or they might go with ILB Rolando McClain

[B]I honestly don't see Okung as being head and shoulders above Davis, Williams, Brown, or Bulaga. So I'd happily trade down three spots to get one of them and add extra picks[/B][/quote]
Agreed, 2 extra picks are more valuable at this point. In this situation we may be able to pick up a RB, LB, or OL that we wouldn't be in position for with our current number of picks. I think it would be interesting especially considering who's off the board and who's left after the first three picks.

53Fan 03-14-2010 06:45 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=SmootSmack;673687]I'd trade down to 7 with them and pick up a couple of their 3rd rounders[/quote]

I really like Okung but I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

Redskin Jim 03-14-2010 06:48 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=Audi;673697][B]Is this a further indictment on Jason Campbell's value around the league?[/B] So far we have the Panthers preferring to stick with Matt Moore, the Cleveland Browns going with Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme, the Broncos preferring first Kyle Orton and now Brady Quinn, and of course the Bears preferring Jay Cutler.[/quote]
Yes, he is a career journeyman, who has not raised his game even to the level of other career journeyman such as Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia, Jon Kitna, etc. In other words he is a BUM.. Yes I said it: a BUM, but he happens to be the best option we currently have at QB. So we make do and give the bum another chance to disappoint us again before we absolutely throw him to the wolves by the end of the season...

Redskin Jim 03-14-2010 06:55 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;673699]I wound'nt say JC is not liked around the league, it's just these certain teams wan't a different direction than Campbell. Actually multiple sources have said the Bills are very interested in Campbell[/quote]
I would say he is respected as a person, but I haven't seen anybody offer anything that would indicate interest in JC for their team. AKA: JC is not viewed as a better QB than [U]MOST[/U] other QBs in the league, including B. Quinn, J. Delhomme, D. Carr, and I'm sure qute a few other widely respected fireballs..

skinsfaninok 03-14-2010 06:59 PM

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Redskins Jim, I wouldn't call him a BUM, the guy did have a pretty good yr . I agree that he isn't a franchise qb but he gives it his all every week. I'm all for drafting a qb trust me but we should keep jc for 1 more yr

dmek25 03-14-2010 07:01 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;673699]I wound'nt say JC is not liked around the league, it's just these certain teams wan't a different direction than Campbell. [B]Actually multiple sources have said the Bills are very interested[/B] [B]in Campbell[/B][/quote]
any links?

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 07:02 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=Redskin Jim;673713]I would say he is respected as a person, but I haven't seen anybody offer anything that would indicate interest in JC for their team. AKA: JC is not viewed as a better QB than [U]MOST[/U] other QBs in the league, including B. Quinn, J. Delhomme, D. Carr, and I'm sure qute a few other widely respected fireballs..[/quote]

Delhomme and Carr are unrestricted free agents. You can't put them in the same category.

I am a bit surprised that Whitehurst has drawn enough interest to possibly land the Chargers a 3rd round pick though

davy 03-14-2010 07:03 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;673685]Wow the Browns are wealing and dealing[/quote]

No surprise there, they have been that division's whipping boys for years.


:)

Redskin Jim 03-14-2010 07:04 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;673714]Redskins Jim, I wouldn't call him a BUM, the guy did have a pretty good yr . I agree that he isn't a franchise qb but he gives it his all every week. I'm all for drafting a qb trust me but we should keep jc for 1 more yr[/quote]
I agree, SKOK. Maybe the word "bum" is a bit harsh. I mean "bum" in terms of his game play, or the inability to raise his game play to a dominant level. He is a classy guy and I love his blue collar work ethic. I am just sick and tired of being a fan of a losing franchise, and a Top 5 QB in the league would go a long way towards elevating our club to perennial contenders.

Redskin Jim 03-14-2010 07:11 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=SmootSmack;673717][B]Delhomme and Carr are unrestricted free agents. You can put them in the same category.
[/B]
I am a bit surprised that Whitehurst has drawn enough interest to possibly land the Chargers a 3rd round pick though[/quote]
Fair enough, it is not the same as JC being tendered. But, as I stated before, I have not heard of anyone, EVER, that was SERIOUSLY interested in acquiring JC as their starting QB. In other words, as I addressed skinsfaninok's question, It IS an indictment of the rest of the league's view of JC. The other 31 teams are not impressed or interested in him as their starting QB.

SmootSmack 03-14-2010 07:16 PM

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Well I think there has been faint interest, certainly not as much as you would hope considering how much we gave up just to draft him.

Redskin Jim 03-14-2010 07:18 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;673722]Well I think there has been faint interest, certainly not as much as you would hope considering how much we gave up just to draft him.[/quote]
Agreed, again. : (

CRedskinsRule 03-14-2010 07:19 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=Redskin Jim;673721]Fair enough, it is not the same as JC being tendered. But, as I stated before, I have not heard of anyone, EVER, that was SERIOUSLY interested in acquiring JC as their starting QB. In other words, as I addressed skinsfaninok's question, It IS an indictment of the rest of the league's view of JC. The other 31 teams are not impressed or interested in him as their starting QB.[/quote]

I think if JC was on the open market he would already have landed a job. The biggest thing is that a trade always takes two teams/people thinking along the same lines. Right now, JC has a lot of value within our own club as an established starting qb. For us to let him go, BA and Shanahan are going to want good value for him. On the other hand, other teams know we are probably looking in other directions, thanks Vinnie for your covert attempts last year, so they aren't going to give up too much or make big time trade offers for him.

Redskin Jim 03-14-2010 07:26 PM

Re: Report: Quinn Traded to Broncos
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;673724]I think if JC was on the open market he would already have landed a job. [B]The biggest thing is that a trade always takes two teams/people thinking along the same lines[/B]. Right now, JC has a lot of value within our own club as an established starting qb. For us to let him go, BA and Shanahan are going to want good value for him. On the other hand,[B] other teams know we are probably looking in other directions, thanks Vinnie for your covert attempts last year, so they aren't going to give up too much or make big time trade offers for him[/B].[/quote]
Both valid points, I think you are correct about other teams "chicken hawking" on JC, waiting for an oppertunity to steal him for little to nothing. I do think many teams, including our own, would love to have him as a backup QB.


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