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SmootSmack 03-23-2010 09:48 AM

Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/joshbidwell/profile?id=BID711929]Josh Bidwell[/url]

SmootSmack 03-23-2010 09:49 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Strangely enough, I was wondering about what was going on with our punter situation yesterday. I knew that Hunter Smith was unlikely to return, but I didn't really expect Bidwell to be the guy.

Guess it makes sense with the Tampa-Allen connection

TheMalcolmConnection 03-23-2010 09:52 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
True, but I don't see why Hunter wouldn't be back. He did a great job.

mredskins 03-23-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
sadly hunter smith was one of the few bright spots from last year. SS are you surprised cause this guy sucks or surprised becasue he is good?

mlmdub130 03-23-2010 09:56 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;677432]True, but I don't see why Hunter wouldn't be back. He did a great job.[/quote]

yeah why would you think hunter wouldn't be back? he was our season mvp

SmootSmack 03-23-2010 09:56 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
I'm surprised because the rumor was that the Redskins were in no rush to bring back Hunter Smith because of his age and they thought he was decent enough last year but probably wasn't going to get all that much better. And they wondered if playing in the NFC East would really be beneficial to an older punter who's been playing most of his career in a dome in Indy...and then they sign an older guy who's spent most of his career punting in Tampa?

skinsfanthru&thru 03-23-2010 09:58 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Last year he had the second highest average yard per punt of his career @ 44.5 yards and 35% of his kicks resulted in the opposing team starting in their own redzone. (correction: just noticed his last stats were 2008)

SmootSmack 03-23-2010 09:58 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
And I don't think Bidwell even played last year

mlmdub130 03-23-2010 10:06 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
i get that hunter was old but it's not like he is a back up db, he is a kicker when you find a good one you usually stick with em

SmootSmack 03-23-2010 10:10 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
I would have stuck with him. Sometimes though, new regimes just want their own guys. Which seems to be the case here I think. Because I don't think Smith was against returning and it's not like his services are being heavily sought after

Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 10:10 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
If you look at Hunter's stats last year, he was in the bottom half in avg and net. Couple that with the injury issues, I guess they just figured it was worth it to move on.

53Fan 03-23-2010 10:11 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Is he as big an offensive weapon as Hunter Smith? :)

Monkeydad 03-23-2010 10:13 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677449]If you look at Hunter's stats last year, he was below average in avg and net. Couple that with the injury issues, I guess they just figured it was worth it to move on.[/quote]

I guess if there is any reason to replace him, it would be his durability, but he was great when in the game.

I doubt we'll be playing so desperately from behind that we'll need some Zorny plays involving punters scoring TDs...so his gadget-play factor is no reason to hold onto him.

Shame, I liked Hunter the Punter a lot, but at least we're getting a quality punter I've heard of in Bidwell. He's a former Pro Bowler.

Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 10:18 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=53Fan;677450]Is he as big an offensive weapon as Hunter Smith? :)[/quote]

Rumor is that Bidwell is the MASTER of the swinging gate play!

mlmdub130 03-23-2010 10:19 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=SmootSmack;677443]And I don't think Bidwell even played last year[/quote]

[url=http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/tampa-bay-buccaneers-punter-josh-bidwell-lost-for-year-with-hip-injury/1028441]Tampa Bay Buccaneers punter Josh Bidwell lost for year with hip injury - St. Petersburg Times[/url]

looks like a hip injury just got worse and worse until he needed surgery, the article says there shouldn't be any long term effects but we will find that out in the next few months. hopefully he works out and goes back to pro bowl caliber. having good defensive field position last year kept us in alot of games

SmootSmack 03-23-2010 10:19 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Here's a link

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/03/23/10/Redskins-Sign-P-Josh-Bidwell/landing_redskins.html?blockID=202739&feedID=272]Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell[/url]

Longtimefan 03-23-2010 10:22 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
The kicking situation continues to be a concern regardles of whether it's punter or place kicker. They're both two of the most unsettled positions on the team.

celts32 03-23-2010 10:26 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
I would think based on what we are doing at other positions that at least 1 more punter will be signed. I wouldn't think this gaurentees that Bidwell is our punter this year.

53Fan 03-23-2010 10:27 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677455]Rumor is that Bidwell is the MASTER of the swinging gate play![/quote]

:laughing2 Whew! I can relax now.

Lotus 03-23-2010 10:28 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
I miss Hunter the Punter already.

Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 10:29 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Longtimefan;677459]The kicking situation continues to be a concern regardles of whether it's punter or place kicker. They're both two of the most unsettled positions on the team.[/quote]


This guy is a proven pro. I have no concerns about the punting. Smith was declining, the numbers prove it.

I think the place kicker from FSU could turn out to be a long term solution.


At least we don't have the Choking Cowboy Retread (who singlehandedly lost 2 games for us last year) and the idiotic punter who could not stop pulling his helmet off.

tryfuhl 03-23-2010 10:30 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Well.. okay I guess? Cheaper than Hunter if that matters to them I guess.

Seems strange not to bring Hunter back unless we were going for some youth movement.

hooskins 03-23-2010 10:30 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Bring back Durant Brooks! Best pick ever.

Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 10:32 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=tryfuhl;677466]Well.. okay I guess? Cheaper than Hunter if that matters to them I guess.

Seems strange not to bring Hunter back unless we were going for some youth movement.[/quote]


Hunter just wasn't that good last year.

tryfuhl 03-23-2010 10:41 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677471]Hunter just wasn't that good last year.[/quote]

he had a good pct of inside the 20 and a good percentage of balls fair caught

Longtimefan 03-23-2010 10:46 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677465]This guy is a proven pro. I have no concerns about the punting. Smith was declining, the numbers prove it.

I think the place kicker from FSU could turn out to be a long term solution.


At least we don't have the Choking Cowboy Retread (who singlehandedly lost 2 games for us last year) and the idiotic punter who could not stop pulling his helmet off.[/quote]

Being able to acquire some long term stability at either position would be ideal. Bidwell has established himself in the league, but he's a twelve year veteran with a limited future to say the least. Gano has yet to establish himself because of his infancy, his youth could afford him the opportunity to be a long-term solution. Time will tell.

SBXVII 03-23-2010 10:49 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=SmootSmack;677439]I'm surprised because the rumor was that the Redskins were in no rush to bring back Hunter Smith [B]because of his age and they thought he was decent enough last year but probably wasn't going to get all that much better.[/B] And they wondered if playing in the NFC East would really be beneficial to an older punter who's been playing most of his career in a dome in Indy...and then they sign an older guy who's spent most of his career punting in Tampa?[/quote]

and....this is different from Bidwell how? he's 34 y/o. I can understand competition. I was hoping we would be bringing in other punters and kickers to challenge for the job but why should the team be over looking Hunter when he was one of the bright spots.

Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 10:52 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=tryfuhl;677475]he had a good pct of inside the 20 and a good percentage of balls fair caught[/quote]

Ok, but he was 24th in net and 32nd in avg. I am not losing sleep over letting a bottom 10 punter go.

It isn't like we are letting Lechler go.

MTK 03-23-2010 11:11 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Smith had some leg issues wonder if that played into the decision to move on.

Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 11:15 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Mattyk;677493]Smith had some leg issues wonder if that played into the decision to move on.[/quote]


True. They almost had to release him during the season last year.

diehardskin2982 03-23-2010 11:17 AM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
I hope this is trully about compitition and they sign hunter. Let the best punter win in training camp.

CultBrennan59 03-23-2010 12:41 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
Hunter was arguably the MVP of the redskins last year! Why are we signing this guy when there is a perfectly good punter right here?

Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 01:00 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;677539]Hunter was arguably the MVP of the redskins last year! Why are we signing this guy when there is a perfectly good punter right here?[/quote]


I think that his touchdowns are clouding things. He was hurt last year. One game we had the placekicker fill in. Then we had to bring in some journeyman and Smith was using up a valuable roster spot. I forget which week it was but Zorn said they were going to drop him if he didn't play. Is it possible his leg injury is still a concern of theirs?

He was a bottom 8 punter in net and avg. That is too much drama for a bottom 8 punter.

tryfuhl 03-23-2010 01:12 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;677498]I hope this is trully about compitition and they sign hunter. Let the best punter win in training camp.[/quote]

Bidwell's competition will probably come in the form of a young guy I'd imagine.

Monkeydad 03-23-2010 01:59 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
How about Hunter the Placekicker?

53Fan 03-23-2010 02:03 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Buster;677592]How about Hunter the Placekicker?[/quote]

I think he should be QB so we can quick-punt it on 3rd down. ;) Didn't think of that one did ya Zorn!?

Monkeydad 03-23-2010 02:09 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
If it had thought of it...I honestly think he would have tried it. Scary.

Dirtbag59 03-23-2010 02:16 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677455]Rumor is that Bidwell is the MASTER of the swinging gate play![/quote]

ZOMGZ I'm so sold now. Screw drafting a QB. We should just run the swinging gate offense.
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Pocket$ $traight 03-23-2010 02:49 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;677609]ZOMGZ I'm so sold now. Screw drafting a QB. We should just run the swinging gate offense.
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SERiouSly HOw cUN ANe1 StOp diS?[/quote]

All you needed to know about Captain Slip and Slide is in that youtube clip.

The best is that was on Monday Night for the world to see...

That has to be the low point of this franchise in the modern era.

CRedskinsRule 03-23-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Redskins Sign P Josh Bidwell
 
A memory beers will never erase. My 12yo son, a giants fan, my best friend from high school, a giants fan, and myself, all sitting in fed ex. they line up, swing the gate. the timeout is called, my friend says what the heck, I turn to him and say "they will do it again- just watch". "no way!" he replies. then they do, i just shook my head.


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