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Defensewins 03-23-2010 01:58 PM

Compensatory Picks Awarded
 
The rich get richer. F!
[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/03/22/patriots.picks.ap/index.html]New England Patriots awarded 4 compensatory draft picks in later rounds - NFL - SI.com[/url]


"The New England Patriots are the big winner for losing free agents last year.

The Patriots have been awarded the maximum of four compensatory picks in April's NFL draft. The selections will come in the sixth round (one, No. 205 overall) and seventh round (three, Nos. 247, 248 and 250).
In all, 32 such picks were given out Monday, with 19 teams getting at least one.

Carolina, Pittsburgh and Tennessee each get three, while Atlanta, Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Philadelphia receive two.

Getting one compensatory choice will be Green Bay, Detroit, Jacksonville, Miami, Minnesota, Oakland, St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Tampa Bay and San Francisco.

diehard 03-23-2010 02:01 PM

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Oh well, back to plan A.

Defensewins 03-23-2010 02:15 PM

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It is amazing how the most successful teams in the draft and on the field are getting the most compensatory picks.
I am glad we changed course and are no longer the best at signing overpriced FA's and bullshitting the cap. It is about time we learned from the successful teams and followed their lead. It took Danny 10 years to figure it out. Better late than never.

MTK 03-23-2010 02:21 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;677607][B]It is amazing how the most successful teams in the draft and on the field are getting the most compensatory picks.[/B]
I am glad we changed course and are no longer the best at signing overpriced FA's and bullshitting the cap. It is about time we learned from the successful teams and followed their lead. It took Danny 10 years to figure it out. Better late than never.[/quote]

The best teams tend to focus on the draft and they know when to let their guys walk when they are looking for the big pay day.

Defensewins 03-23-2010 02:25 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;677612]The best teams tend to focus on the draft and they know when to let their guys walk when they are looking for the big pay day.[/quote]

Or their most productive days are behind them. Older players tend to be more injury prone and miss more time. In general.

Skinny Tee 03-23-2010 02:30 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;677607]It is amazing how the most successful teams in the draft and on the field are getting the most compensatory picks.
I am glad we changed course and are no longer the best at signing overpriced FA's and bullshitting the cap. It is about time we learned from the successful teams and followed their lead. [B]It took Danny 10 years to figure it out. Better late than never.[/B][/quote]

Now all he has to learn is to sit in the owners office and stop pestering people who are actually helping the team. Enough with the photos of him sitting right between Shanny & Allen at the combine.

halodoc 03-23-2010 02:35 PM

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The Bengals did the best with a 3rd and 4th rounder ,and the Patriots got more ammo to be able to move around like always. Well maybe the Skin will get a pick next year ,lol .

Dirtbag59 03-23-2010 02:41 PM

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Hopefully ARE, Griff, Betts, and Smoot will get us a few comp picks next year.

Defensewins 03-23-2010 02:43 PM

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[quote=halodoc;677619]The Bengals did the best with a 3rd and 4th rounder ,and the Patriots got more ammo to be able to move around like always. Well maybe the Skin will get a pick next year ,lol .[/quote]

Yeah, I did not notice that. A 3rd and a 4th in this deep draft is huge. Teams drafting behind them are bitching. Dan is cursing Vinny's photo.

Defensewins 03-23-2010 02:47 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;677622]Hopefully ARE, Griff, Betts, and Smoot will get us a few comp picks next year.[/quote]

I might be wrong, but I think you only get compensatory picks if another team signs your FA.?.? Releasing them does not count.?.? I think.

MTK 03-23-2010 02:48 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;677622]Hopefully ARE, Griff, Betts, and Smoot will get us a few comp picks next year.[/quote]

The picks are awarded based on free agents that you lose, not guys that you cut.

halodoc 03-23-2010 02:49 PM

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Well the Bengals could use the extra picks anyway.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-23-2010 04:57 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;677612]The best teams tend to focus on the draft and they know when to let their guys walk when they are looking for the big pay day.[/quote]

thats a very good point. if you let a player walk who is going to get alot more money somewhere else than he's worth to your team, you're going to get a 3rd-4th round compensatory pick for him. its not alot, but its better than nothing. for carolina, i certainly think that the 3rd round compensatory pick is probably worth more to the carolina panthers than keeping peppers and giving him tens of millions of dollars would have been.

drew54 03-23-2010 06:22 PM

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[quote=halodoc;677619]The Bengals did the best with a 3rd and 4th rounder ,and the Patriots got more ammo to be able to move around like always. Well maybe the Skin will get a pick next year ,lol .[/quote]

FYI, cannot trade a Compensatory pick.

Dirtbag59 03-23-2010 06:52 PM

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[quote=drew54;677735]FYI, cannot trade a Compensatory pick.[/quote]

Though it may make them slightly more willing to part with other picks for the sake of trading up.

drew54 03-23-2010 07:13 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;677739]Though it may make them slightly more willing to part with other picks for the sake of trading up.[/quote]

Agreed.

CultBrennan59 03-23-2010 07:52 PM

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Ok why did New England get 4 compensatory picks? and how did we not get a single one?

53Fan 03-23-2010 08:01 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;677759]Ok why did New England get 4 compensatory picks? and how did we not get a single one?[/quote]

I don't know but damnit you need to get to the bottom of this CB!!!

Lotus 03-23-2010 08:05 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;677759]Ok why did New England get 4 compensatory picks? and how did we not get a single one?[/quote]

Because Vince Wilfork sat on Roger Goodell until Goodell screamed for mercy.

Dirtbag59 03-23-2010 08:08 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;677759]Ok why did New England get 4 compensatory picks? and how did we not get a single one?[/quote]

Maybe, they filmed Goodell when he went out at night with his mistress.

53Fan 03-23-2010 08:38 PM

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^ Goodell's or Wilfork's?

Ruhskins 03-23-2010 09:31 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;677759]Ok why did New England get 4 compensatory picks? and how did we not get a single one?[/quote]

Darth Hoody used the dark side of the force.

Dirtbag59 03-23-2010 09:53 PM

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[quote=Lotus;677767]Because Vince Wilfork sat on Roger Goodell until Goodell screamed for mercy.[/quote]

Please. Haven't you ever left your house and seen some guy on top of a neighboring building with a tripod and a Patriots hat? People get paranoid about big brother, but in reality they should really just fear New England.

SBXVII 03-23-2010 11:32 PM

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I always thought Compensatory picks were somewhat chosen by how many starters the team lost to either FA or the team cut? I'd of thought we would have gotten one for ARE maybe atleast one or two more in there.

GMScud 03-24-2010 01:20 AM

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[quote=Defensewins;677607][B]It is amazing how the most successful teams in the draft and on the field are getting the most compensatory picks. [/B]
I am glad we changed course and are no longer the best at signing overpriced FA's and bullshitting the cap. It is about time we learned from the successful teams and followed their lead. It took Danny 10 years to figure it out. Better late than never.[/quote]

No doubt about it. The Patriots now have 12 picks in this year's draft. TWELVE. Between this year and next year, they have 7, count 'em, 7 picks in the first 2 rounds. Unreal. At the precise moment when they have lost too many accomplished vets to be a real contender, they are set up to have a massive influx of serious young talent. IMO they are the benchmark of how to manage personnel. In the same vein, with Pioli now in KC, don't be surprised to see that team become the bell cow in AFC West in the not too distant future (especially if Matt Cassell continues to improve).

[quote=SBXVII;677816]I always thought Compensatory picks were somewhat chosen by how many starters the team lost to either FA or the team cut? I'd of thought we would have gotten one for ARE maybe atleast one or two more in there.[/quote]

We don't get squat for cutting a guy. Why would we?

MTK 03-24-2010 07:54 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;677816]I always thought Compensatory picks were somewhat chosen by how many starters the team lost to either FA or the team cut? I'd of thought we would have gotten one for ARE maybe atleast one or two more in there.[/quote]

Again it only pertains to free agents you lose, not guys you cut.

over the mountain 03-24-2010 01:52 PM

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[quote=drew54;677735]FYI, cannot trade a Compensatory pick.[/quote]

i did not know that. thanks

skinster 03-29-2010 10:14 AM

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I know the formula is based around free agents lost, but does that include cuts? Like if Randy Thomas, Cornelius Griffin, Fred Smoot, etc.. sign, will we get compensation for that?

MTK 03-29-2010 10:17 AM

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See post #26

KLHJ2 03-29-2010 11:29 AM

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Not trying to bring up old stuff...actually that's exactly what I'm doing. I still feel that we should have gotten something in return for losing Sean Taylor. Maybe it is something that they can discuss in the new CBA to compensate teams for any player that they lose involuntarily. I would not include players who perform an illegal act and go to jail or get suspended. That way player conduct is still vital.

GTripp0012 03-29-2010 11:34 AM

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[quote=GMScud;677828]No doubt about it. The Patriots now have 12 picks in this year's draft. TWELVE. Between this year and next year, they have 7, count 'em, 7 picks in the first 2 rounds. Unreal. At the precise moment when they have lost too many accomplished vets to be a real contender, they are set up to have a massive influx of serious young talent. IMO they are the benchmark of how to manage personnel. In the same vein, with Pioli now in KC, don't be surprised to see that team become the bell cow in AFC West in the not too distant future (especially if Matt Cassell continues to improve.[/quote]Starting to think that Pioli's contributions in New England were limited to having access to Peter King/glowing media profiles.

Lotus 03-29-2010 11:44 AM

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We should get a compensatory pick for Zorn.

halodoc 03-29-2010 12:22 PM

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Off of nfl.com


Atlanta Falcons
Lost: Michael Boley, Keith Brooking, Domonique Foxworth, Grady Jackson
Signed: Mike Peterson, Brett Romberg
Total compensatory picks: 2


Carolina Panthers
Lost: Geoff Hangartner, Mark Jones, Frank Omiyale
Total compensatory picks: 3


Cincinnati Bengals
Lost: Stacy Andrews, Ryan Fitzpatrick, T.J. Houshmandzadeh
Signed: J.T. O'Sullivan
Total compensatory picks: 2


Green Bay Packers
Lost: Colin Cole
Total compensatory picks: 1


Indianapolis Colts
Lost: Darrell Reid, Hunter Smith
Total compensatory picks: 2


Jacksonville Jaguars
Lost: Khalif Barnes, Mike Peterson, Gerald Sensabaugh
Signed: Sean Considine, Tra Thomas
Total compensatory picks: 1


Miami Dolphins
Lost: Andre' Goodman, Renaldo Hill
Signed: Joe Berger, Jake Grove
Total compensatory picks: 1


Minnesota Vikings
Lost: Matt Birk, Darren Sharper
Signed: Karl Paymah
Total compensatory picks: 1


New England Patriots
Lost: Heath Evans, Jabar Gaffney, Larry Izzo, LaMont Jordan, Lonie Paxton
Signed: Brandon McGowan
Total compensatory picks: 4


Oakland Raiders
Lost: Jake Grove
Signed: Khalif Barnes
Total compensatory picks: 1


Philadelphia Eagles
Lost: Correll Buckhalter, Sean Considine, Brian Dawkins, L.J. Smith, Tra Thomas
Signed: Stacy Andrews, Sean Jones, Leonard Weaver
Total compensatory picks: 2


Pittsburgh Steelers
Lost: Byron Leftwich, Bryant McFadden, Nate Washington
Total compensatory picks: 3


San Diego Chargers
Lost: Mike Goff, Igor Olshansky
Signed: Kevin Burnett
Total compensatory picks: 1


San Francisco 49ers
Lost: Ronald Fields, Bryant Johnson, J.T. O'Sullivan, Donald Strickland
Signed: Demetric Evans, Brandon Jones, Moran Norris
Total compensatory picks: 1


Seattle Seahawks
Lost: Rocky Bernard, Maurice Morris, Leonard Weaver, Floyd Womack
Signed: Colin Cole, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, John Owens
Total compensatory picks: 1


Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Lost: Phillip Buchanon, Jovan Haye
Signed: Byron Leftwich, Derrick Ward
Total compensatory picks: 1


Tennessee Titans
Lost: Chris Carr, Albert Haynesworth, Brandon Jones, Eric King, Daniel Loper, Chris Simms
Signed: Jovan Haye, Mark Jones, Nate Washington
Total compensatory picks: 3

halodoc 03-29-2010 12:29 PM

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New England Patriots
Lost: Heath Evans, Jabar Gaffney, Larry Izzo, LaMont Jordan, Lonie Paxton
Signed: Brandon McGowan
Total compensatory picks: 4

The Patriots Didnt lose anyone of importance ,and didnt sign any good UNrestriced free agents. The players they got were either relesed from another team or traded to them . I belive they look for thouse player so that they can always come away with some comp picks. And the vaule of the contracts that the lost free agents sign detrimes the pick. Like the bengals get a 3rd and 4th because of the contracts that TJ house and Stacy Andrews got.


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