Russell Okung visits the Redskins
 

Despite all the McNabb talk, there is still plenty of work to be done:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/oh-by-the-way-russell-okung-vi.html]Redskins Insider - By the way, Russell Okung visited on Monday[/url]

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I was going to ask about this. I wonder if it's a good thing or a bad thing that he saw how crazy this town gets about football. LOL.

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Draft Okung or Williams, sign Levi, sign the Hotel (I know I said it would be a bad move the other day but I think he could play RT. I know he could play it better than Heyer.)

BPA with the rest of the picks and look for steals in FA. Then let the Mastermind do his thing.

Offseason solved! lol

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kind of forgot about that haha

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[quote=GMScud;683819]Despite all the McNabb talk, there is still plenty of work to be done:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/oh-by-the-way-russell-okung-vi.html]Redskins Insider - By the way, Russell Okung visited on Monday[/url][/quote]

I like this news. :)

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Please, please, football Gods...Okung cometh this way soon!

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You got to think the Skins are going to look to take this guy now that they have a solid qb in their stable.

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I just don't see them getting Okung on the 4th with so many other needs elsewhere and few picks. There is going to be lots more activity and trades.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;683848]You got to think the Skins are going to look to take this guy now that they have a solid qb in their stable.[/quote]

Logic would make us all think that, but I fear that something else "crazy" is going to happen. Let's hope logic wins out.

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This is going to be a Crazy CRAZY draft. If Clausen slips to us at #4...I totally see the Bills or another QB hungry team trading up and giving us more of those sweet sweet draft picks in the top two rounds. Iupait and Bruce Campbell look most excellent in the B's and G's...or perhaps another pick for just BC and perhaps a certain young fella named CJ Spilla Thrilla? One could dream...you know we passed on AP for that Turd LL.

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I think that we could definitely get okung. But keep in mind that the skins really like Eric Berry and supposedly trent williams so a trade down is also very likely.

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I think we could get back a mid round if the chips fall right. Definitely lessens the loss of picks from the trade (which I don't even think is that bad in the first place).

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In my opinion, if Okung is available at 4, then take him. He should be a pro-bowl type player for a decade. If Okung is gone, to Detroit, then I would hope they look to trade down, and accumulate more picks. I do not believe there is a significant difference between the 2nd-6th Tackle. Brown and Saffold project very well as Left Tackles, and should be available in the late 20's. Our 4th round almost certainly has to go O-line now and Kyle Calloway, Marshall Newhouse, and Ed Wang should all be available.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;683849]I just don't see them getting Okung on the 4th with so many other needs elsewhere and few picks. There is going to be lots more activity and trades.[/quote]
At this point, what other need is more pressing to this team than a LT? As SS said, with McNabb in the fold our QB situation stabilized, and no other need was as glaring as the Oline. If we don't take Okung(or Williams) I will be ready to join GTripp in calling someone an idiot!

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Well, the thing that sucks about the McNabb deal getting done so early is that we lose all leverage that we had for trading Campbell and also for trading our #4 pick. Teams know now that we won't go for a QB with that pick, so they will stay put or trade with teams after us. Other than that, I love McNabb in the B&G.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;683849]I just don't see them getting Okung on the 4th with so many other needs elsewhere and few picks. There is going to be lots more activity and trades.[/quote]

LT is our BIGGEST NEED! Why wouldn't we cover that one first?

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Assuming we stay at #4 I can't see us going anywhere but LT.

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Losing the 2nd Round pick for a new QB can only be a beneficial trade if we get a franchise tackle in the first round. If getting McNabb somehow prevents us from helping the O-line...it will end up being a very bad deal for us.


Keeping Campbell + getting offensive line help > McNabb and no help on the line


I hope we still get Okung or Trent Williams. We should also pursue a RT in a trade if we don't pick up more draft selections to get one.

Regardless of how the draft goes down and how many deals we make...by the time training camp starts, we need two new tackles...starter quality, not just replacements.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;683904]At this point, what other need is more pressing to this team than a LT? As SS said, with McNabb in the fold our QB situation stabilized, and no other need was as glaring as the Oline. If we don't take Okung(or Williams) I will be ready to join GTripp in calling someone an idiot![/quote]

How about a RT? LT? LB's? Our main needs are in the OL and LB positions, QB and RB are stable now.

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[quote=Buster;683936]LT is our BIGGEST NEED! Why wouldn't we cover that one first?[/quote]

We still can if we trade down and still pick more picks to also get a RT and LB.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684005]How about a RT? LT? LB's? Our main needs are in the OL and LB positions, QB and RB are stable now.[/quote]

Our biggest need now, is LT, and not a possibly good LT, a solid LT that will step in and keep our "aged injury prone"(LOL) qb from getting hit 100 times like JC did. RT is a need, but not necessarily through the draft, LJ could re-sign (doubtful), Heyer or another vet LT who gets cut after all these Rookie LT's are signed in the first round will be available to fill it. As for LB, whatever compensation we get for JC will go to that as well as one of our other picks. We have lots of needs, but LT far exceeds any other need right now.

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I think it's likely Levi returns

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[quote=SmootSmack;684037]I think it's likely Levi returns[/quote]

Has he played RT before?

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according to that link to the rams forum, we've allegedly only got a top-10 grade on Okung. If true, I certainly think we'd try to trade down if he's gone when we pick. The only player i can see us taking at 4 is Suh or McCoy, and thats only if we ship Haynesworth to the Saints for a LT.

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[quote=SmootSmack;684037]I think it's likely Levi returns[/quote]


He isn't a premier tackle by all means but I would feel much more comfortable with 2 starting quality veteran tackles on the roster in case the guy or guys we draft cannot start immediately. I do not want Heyer starting on opening day.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;683849]I just don't see them getting Okung on the 4th with so many other needs elsewhere and few picks. There is going to be lots more activity and trades.[/quote]

If no one wants to trade, would you be happy with Okung, Bulaga or Williams? Perhaps you'd go for a totally different player?

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[quote=Ruhskins;684041]Has he played RT before?[/quote]

He has and he hates it (but he may not have a choice as the options for him dwindle). He would have been a Packer had he been willing to play RT last year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;684037]I think it's likely Levi returns[/quote]

Has he gotten over his "I have to be an LT" mentality?

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to me, the question is: would we even want him as anything other than a backup?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;684054]If no one wants to trade, would you be happy with Okung, Bulaga or Williams? Perhaps you'd go for a totally different player?[/quote]

I would be happy with Okung. My point is we have too many holes to fill and I feel that another LT like the guy from USC or Campbell from Maryland are just slightly more raw but can become dominant over short period of time.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;684068]to me, the question is: would we even want him as anything other than a backup?[/quote]

I would mainly want him as a LT backup possibly RT Starter.

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[quote=SmootSmack;684037]I think it's likely Levi returns[/quote]

Agree, once he hears DM is here, he will be begging to come back & play RT & be a backup.

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Welcome to D.C. Russell!!!! Go to Five Guys, have a burger, pull up a chair and make yourself at home!!!!! I'll go get you the classifieds so u can start house hunting!!!

PS - Just say no to manassas, only Restaurants and gas stations, and god awful traffic.

:food-smil

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[quote=Mechanix544;684630]Welcome to D.C. Russell!!!! [B]Go to Five Guys, have a burger, pull up a chair and make yourself at home[/B]!!!!! I'll go get you the classifieds so u can start house hunting!!!

PS - Just say no to manassas, only Restaurants and gas stations, and god awful traffic.

:food-smil[/quote]

What are you trying to do, turn him into Andre Smith? Terrance Cody? You should say welcome to DC Russell, hire Shannon Sharpes personal chef and prepare to dominate the NFC East.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684069]I would be happy with Okung. My point is we have too many holes to fill and I feel that another LT like the guy from USC or Campbell from Maryland are just slightly more raw but can become dominant over short period of time.[/quote]

Agreed. Kinda makes the whole "WIN NOW" philosophy/notion kinda difficult if we gotta teach more than they can step in and stabilize a position. I dont think Washington is the place ANY pick should want to come to and take time to grow. Not that they can't, but I think, evaluating the FO's moves thus far, we are looking and leaning towards more immediate impact types. Not that we can't breed some young talent as well tho..........

That is why Okung and Berry are a perfect fit here.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;684631]What are you trying to do, turn him into Andre Smith? Terrance Cody? You should say welcome to DC Russell, hire Shannon Sharpes personal chef and prepare to dominate the NFC East.[/quote]

Ya......Cody.....

That guys got bigger tits than fuckin' Dolly Parton.

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The Okung visit was really low-key...I almost missed the news report that he was here.

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[quote=Mechanix544;684634]Agreed. Kinda makes the whole "WIN NOW" philosophy/notion kinda difficult if we gotta teach more than they can step in and stabilize a position. I dont think Washington is the place ANY pick should want to come to and take time to grow. Not that they can't, but I think, evaluating the FO's moves thus far, we are looking and leaning towards more immediate impact types. Not that we can't breed some young talent as well tho..........

That is why Okung and Berry are a perfect fit here.[/quote]

If it's a win now situation then I see Flozell Adams in our future as painful as it is to say. The one player I would love to get is Berry, the other is Golden Tate.

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[quote=Mechanix544;684630]Welcome to D.C. Russell!!!! Go to Five Guys, have a burger, pull up a chair and make yourself at home!!!!! I'll go get you the classifieds so u can start house hunting!!!

PS - Just say no to manassas, only Restaurants and gas stations, and god awful traffic.

:food-smil[/quote]
number 4 money and he won't be living in Manassas haha

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684642]If it's a win now situation then I see Flozell Adams in our future as painful as it is to say. The one player I would love to get is Berry, the other is Golden Tate.[/quote]

If my life depended on the Redskins signing Flozell Adams I wouldn't feel good about my chances. Chad Clifton, Tony Pashos, and a couple others have gone through town without a contract.