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GusFrerotte 04-19-2010 09:53 PM

AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
It seems Jason La Canfora isn't buying Allen's insistence that AH isn't on the trading block. IF what Shanny told AH is true I don't blame AH one bit for wanting to leave. [url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/19/rift-between-haynesworth-redskins-not-going-away/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Rift between Haynesworth, Redskins not going away «[/url]

tootergray34 04-19-2010 09:56 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
At this point I just hope we dump him ... mainly b/c i'm tired of hearing about him. I'd rather have a high 2nd round pick for him anyways.

SkinzWin 04-19-2010 09:59 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
I guess we will find out in 2 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes. I think the only thing that is safe to say right now is that no one knows exactly what's going to happen until it happens. I just want the O-line addressed.

CRedskinsRule 04-19-2010 10:04 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[QUOTE]It seems Jason La Canfora isn't buying Allen's insistence that AH isn't on the trading block. IF what Shanny told AH is true I don't blame AH one bit for wanting to leave. [url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/19/rift-between-haynesworth-redskins-not-going-away/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Rift between Haynesworth, Redskins not going away «[/url][/QUOTE]
JLC has not proven reliable in any way about Redskins news. This article is an absolute re-hash of what has been said and denied. Could they trade AH yes, would that make me suddenly give credence to JLC - not in the least. I don't really understand what more JLC could do to prove that he does not have inside information on the Redskins. Its really funny that the article tries to use his excommunication from the redskins press as proof of his reliability. Crazy.

ArtMonkDrillz 04-19-2010 10:05 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
At this point is any besides JLC really pushing this story? I'm not saying he's wrong, but it seems like he's really trying to keep this going probably so that he doesn't look like he can't get the scoop on the team he used to cover.

GusFrerotte 04-19-2010 10:16 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
The only thing about this that caught my eye was what he said Shanny told AH about if him having more than 2 sacks something was wrong. If Shanny did tell him something along those lines I would want to split also if I could. To me that part of the article, if indeed true, would explain why AH is pissed.

internetcareer 04-19-2010 10:18 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Here is a case where one of the so called "media experts" predicts something. If it happens the guy is a genius. If it doesn't then he CLAIMS that nobody was willing to pay the price.

On the flip side...I would say virtually every player is on the trade block if the price is right.

wilsowilso 04-19-2010 10:19 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
The second I see that JLC is talking about the Redskins plans I don't even bother reading any further. The dude has no connections at Redskin Park. Zero.

CRedskinsRule 04-19-2010 10:29 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[QUOTE]The only thing about this that caught my eye was what he said [B]Shanny told AH about if him having more than 2 sacks something was wrong[/B]. If Shanny did tell him something along those lines I would want to split also if I could. To me that part of the article, if indeed true, would explain why AH is pissed.[/QUOTE] The bolded sentence is again why JLC is not to be regarded. Its just a ridiculous statement.

Dirtbag59 04-19-2010 10:30 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
IF there was a move with Haynesworth I'd bet it would be Haynesworth for Brown and then the Redskins would either draft Eric Berry or trade down. Of course this is a big if and I wouldn't count on JLC these days for Redskins news.

warpaint 04-19-2010 10:30 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Does anyone really think Shanny would tell AH that he shouldn't expect more than 2 sacks this year, that guy is fishing for camera time, thats it. AH is going to get to the QB. WHY! Would Shanny put a leash on his biggest threat?

skinsfaninok 04-19-2010 10:34 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Dirtbag I would like that move but also if the saints threw in a 3rd rd pick. Either way we will trade players for picks simply because we dont have any draft picks lol

dirtythirty 04-19-2010 10:36 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
I want him outta here too. He is a great talent but acting like a bum. For the money he is getting he should play whatever they tell him too. If we trade him I hope it is to Oakland or Detroit.

Dirtbag59 04-19-2010 10:40 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;690171]Dirtbag I would like that move but also if the saints threw in a 3rd rd pick. Either way we will trade players for picks simply because we dont have any draft picks lol[/quote]

Why would the Saints throw in a 3rd round pick when we trade the Chiefs for Mike Brown? You silly SkinfaninOk. Lol, just kidding. I almost forgot to mention that Brown is Jamaal Brown of the Saints.

tryfuhl 04-19-2010 10:49 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
kind of already covered in the other (albeit long and frequently diverting from the subject) thread

Dirtbag59 04-19-2010 10:52 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
So it all comes down to this. Schefter vs JLC. Although it's not cut and dry (JLC can still say Haynesworth was shopped if he stays on the team) it will be a "battle" that the fan base will be able to recall throughout the piles of rumors we've been exposed to in the last few months.

GusFrerotte 04-19-2010 10:58 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;690183]So it all comes down to this. Schefter vs JLC. Although it's not cut and dry (JLC can still say Haynesworth was shopped if he stays on the team) it will be a "battle" that the fan base will be able to recall throughout the piles of rumors we've been exposed to in the last few months.[/quote]


Yeah, I think you nailed it Dirtbag. It is the media trying to one up the other or just create "noise" to justify them having their jobs. Most of our more NFL/Skins literate fellow posters in here could write better articles than most NFL.com or Fox Sports.com writers anyday.

Ruhskins 04-19-2010 11:04 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
I think JLC is still bitter about not breaking the Haynesworth news last year. Personally I think he's crap.

GusFrerotte 04-19-2010 11:07 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Could be sour grapes Ruhskins, but who knows. I think it would make sense to trade AH if he is indeed unhappy about the 3-4 switch, and especially if the supposed comments about the 2 sacks was an actual statement made to AH. Trade AH to Detroit for 2 second rounders.

53Fan 04-19-2010 11:10 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[B]J[/B]usta [B]L[/B]ying [B]C[/B]olumnist.

GusFrerotte 04-19-2010 11:15 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
We will see by this Saturday if he is full of BS. Either way it is going to be exciting.

Lotus 04-19-2010 11:35 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;690164]The only thing about this that caught my eye was what he said Shanny told AH about if him having more than 2 sacks something was wrong. If Shanny did tell him something along those lines I would want to split also if I could. To me that part of the article, if indeed true, would explain why AH is pissed.[/quote]

That part caught my eye because it seemed too incredible. A space eater NT against the run can still rack up more than 2 sacks. It is good for the team if the blob NT gets more than two sacks. So if Shanny even thought that, much less said it to AH, then Shanny has lost his marbles.

Pocket$ $traight 04-19-2010 11:46 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
The quote that JLC gave was completely idiotic. Paraphrasing: "If you get more than 2 sacks then something is wrong". I would be willing to be every penny that I ever made that Shanahan never said that. Even if AH played nose every down he would get more than 2 sacks. JLC is full of shit.

Even that idiotic granola Zorn wouldn't use AH only to take up 2 blockers every play.

One, Haslett called him. 2 McNabb called him. 3 Haslett is talking about using him all over the front 7. These guys wouldn't be jumping through hoops if they wanted him out.

If JLC made all of this up, he should never be allowed to report on the Redskins again. He looks like an effing douchbag anyway. Tell him to drop 50 and become the next Jared for Subway. What an effing tool.

Ruhskins 04-19-2010 11:47 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;690192]Could be sour grapes Ruhskins, but who knows. I think it would make sense to trade AH if he is indeed unhappy about the 3-4 switch, and [B]especially if the supposed comments about the 2 sacks was an actual statement made to AH[/B]. Trade AH to Detroit for 2 second rounders.[/quote]

I think if this is true, then we have more problems than just a bitter reporter making up shit.

Pocket$ $traight 04-19-2010 11:49 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Jared LaCanfora needs an ass whooping.

tryfuhl 04-19-2010 11:51 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Well Wilfork didn't get any last year.. has like 7.5 on his career.. probably a good benchmark.. it's not very common for an NT to get more than 2.. Ratliff did pull in 6 last year.. but that was 2 against us and 2 against Philly.. neither of which had great pass pro

Ruhskins 04-19-2010 11:57 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=tryfuhl;690208]Well Wilfork didn't get any last year.. has like 7.5 on his career.. probably a good benchmark.. it's not very common for an NT to get more than 2.. Ratliff did pull in 6 last year.. but that was 2 against us and 2 against Philly.. neither of which had great pass pro[/quote]

Still, I think it'd be stupid for any coach to take someone like AH and make them a 100 million dollar plug in the middle. Shit, in that case let's put McNabb at running back and CP as offensive tackle (hey, he is a good pass blocker).

artmonkforhallofamein07 04-20-2010 12:01 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Casey Hampton from Pit had 2.5 last year.

Maybe the comment was taken from MS concerning the NT position in general.

The good NT don't get after the passer, and I beleive the Skins would use AH in a much more aggressive role.

tryfuhl 04-20-2010 12:05 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=Ruhskins;690212]Still, I think it'd be stupid for any coach to take someone like AH and make them a 100 million dollar plug in the middle. Shit, in that case let's put McNabb at running back and CP as offensive tackle (hey, he is a good pass blocker).[/quote]
Agreed; anyone who's read my thoughts on the matter would know that I agree with this haha

Pocket$ $traight 04-20-2010 12:12 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;690183]So it all comes down to this. [B]Schefter vs JLC[/B]. Although it's not cut and dry (JLC can still say Haynesworth was shopped if he stays on the team) it will be a "battle" that the fan base will be able to recall throughout the piles of rumors we've been exposed to in the last few months.[/quote]


That is a pretty easy choice.

diehard 04-20-2010 06:07 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=53Fan;690193][B]J[/B]usta [B]L[/B]ying [B]C[/B]olumnist.[/quote]

:lol:

freddyg12 04-20-2010 09:09 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
I think a lot of people on here don't give JLC his just due. I mean the NFL network didn't hire him because he was a slouch. People took his comments on the blog & acted as if that was his "reporting" which it wasn't, it's a blog, which pretty much have few rules.

Also, for all those saying that JLC isn't ethical in so many words, doesn't anyone see a potential conflict of interest w/Schefter reporting the skins? I'm not saying there is, but his past w/Shanny could impact his info on the team to one extreme or the other. He may not want to do 'investigative journalism' behind Shanny's back, whereas JLC will. I certainly wouldn't assume that Schefter always has the inside scoop on the skins.

Don't these two guys -Schefter & JLC- work for the same employer?

CRedskinsRule 04-20-2010 09:15 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Actually JLC works for the NFL Network, Schefter works for ESPN. If I remember right Schefter switched companies, and then JLC was hired to replace him at the NFLN.

redsk1 04-20-2010 09:37 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
AH should be happy to do anything the Skins want him to do. He should be the most positive guy out there. He should show up early and be a team leader. Why? He got paid 21 million dollars. That's what we paid him for.

artmonkforhallofamein07 04-20-2010 09:55 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
^^ Agree with this. I know when I am paid to do a job I show up. For that kind of money the guy should be happy to do whatever the skins want him to.

tryfuhl 04-20-2010 09:56 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
We paid him to produce on the field, I get the expectations for other things as well though.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-20-2010 10:54 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=freddyg12;690254]I think a lot of people on here don't give JLC his just due. I mean the NFL network didn't hire him because he was a slouch. People took his comments on the blog & acted as if that was his "reporting" which it wasn't, it's a blog, which pretty much have few rules.

Also, for all those saying that JLC isn't ethical in so many words, doesn't anyone see a potential conflict of interest w/Schefter reporting the skins? I'm not saying there is, but his past w/Shanny could impact his info on the team to one extreme or the other. He may not want to do 'investigative journalism' behind Shanny's back, whereas JLC will. I certainly wouldn't assume that Schefter always has the inside scoop on the skins.

Don't these two guys -Schefter & JLC- work for the same employer?[/quote]

I agree with everything you said (except the last sentence, of course).

For the life of me, i don't get why so many her:

1) completely discredit JLC;
2) put 100% faith in everything Schefter reports when there are multiple, obvious reasons why we should question what he says about the skins; and
3) treat everything the FO or coaching staff says as gospel, when misdirection and deception are every team strives for this time of year.

Personally, if JLC or another sports analyst says one thing, and the team is saying the exact opposite (either through official channels or through schefter), it makes me 100% convinced that the report is true and the team is lying. When the reports agree with what the team is saying, its [I]then[/I] that I have no idea what to beleive.

over the mountain 04-20-2010 10:58 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
bruce allen's Q&A presser yesterday was pretty funny. started off with "i will attempt to not lie to you. (crowd chuckles at our so charming he almost disalarming hair piece, bruce allen). key word attempt. okay lets get these questions rolling!"

okay the stuff after crowd chuckled was unnecessary and probably didnt happen but the man has podium presence people.

i also dont get why people bash PFT and other sources.

florio and PFT pretty much gather all of the nfl team's beat writers articles, blogs, tweets and then colloborates them all in one easy to reference and find source.

does he speculate at potential trade partners, etc. yes. but i take it for the information that is in the article he is citing and speculating from. his editorial comments, are just that, opinion which i am also cool with as the man knows how to stir a pot.

honestly, florio has made a good bit of change and name recognition just by relentlessly surfing the web for any scantila of nfl news and puts them all in one place so we dont have to. there is a huge need for any rampant speculative maybe breaking news in the nfl, and the man is filling that need and his pockets.

tryfuhl 04-20-2010 11:08 AM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
yeah PFT has gotten better.. at least in this offseason.. and yeah it's pretty much just aggregated content with a bit of speculation.. even if we think that Florio can be a douche we pretty much still use his site

JLC also said that we were in the running for Dansby, Porter, etc.. he just hasn't really been on point about much in regards to us this year

MTK 04-20-2010 11:16 AM

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Based on overall track record I would take Schefter over JLC any day


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