Greg Cosell on McNabb, Campbell, and Others
 

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ross_tucker/06/02/greg.cosell/index.html]Tim Tebow, Donovan McNabb, Kevin Kolb on NFL coaches' tape - Ross Tucker - SI.com[/url]

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was reading an article earlier about mcnabb not looking so hot at the previous OTA (might've been from the article that matty posted) .. I mean I won't pretend he's Manning level, but I'd like a little more confidence in abilities and not just leadership, bout to read this though

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I wouldn't take much from someone saying he didn't look sharp in an OTA. Isn't this what these are for? To install the systems and to begin to shake off the rust of the offseason?

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[quote=Mattyk;704532]I wouldn't take much from someone saying he didn't look sharp in an OTA. Isn't this what these are for? To install the systems and to begin to shake off the rust of the offseason?[/quote]
No doubt, like I said I won't sweat it now or anything. The only thing that matters is regular season really.

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Season is toast! Time for Rexy or Pineapple! :)

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[quote=tryfuhl;704522]was reading an article earlier about mcnabb not looking so hot at the previous OTA (might've been from the article that matty posted) .. I mean I won't pretend he's Manning level, but I'd like a little more confidence in abilities and not just leadership, bout to read this though[/quote]

This is all so different for McNabb, after having played in the same system his entire career. His ability to grasp the system, establish cohesion and confidence, will go a long way towards determining what type season we're going to have.

Remember, McNabb was not known as an offseason workout warrior unless he was rehabbing.

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I liked this comment by Greg Cosell:

"I believe where McNabb went, working under Mike Shanahan, will be an excellent fit. Shanahan is as good as there is when it comes to personnel packages, different formations and dictating matchups in the passing game that allow the QB to be very quick with his decision making."

Sweet.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;704643]I liked this comment by Greg Cosell:

"I believe where McNabb went, working under Mike Shanahan, will be an excellent fit. Shanahan is as good as there is when it comes to personnel packages, different formations and dictating matchups in the passing game that allow the QB to be very quick with his decision making."

Sweet.[/quote]

Ya, i agree we all like to hear that....

Re: Greg Cosell on McNabb, Campbell, and Others
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;704643]I liked this comment by Greg Cosell:

"I believe where McNabb went, working under Mike Shanahan, will be an excellent fit. Shanahan is as good as there is when it comes to personnel packages, different formations and dictating matchups in the passing game that allow the QB to be very quick with his decision making."

Sweet.[/quote]

We're all hoping that what we hear, is just a fraction of what we're going to see when it all begins to matter........httr

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Is it September yet ?

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Shanahan definately has a bit of control freak in him, which is what you want when it comes to dicating match-ups. Zorn was pretty indifferent as to who was matching up with who, which helped us in some situations, I think, but hurt us in many others.

Then again, it's Kyle who will be exploiting the match-ups.

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Isn't every QB rusty in OTA and mini camp practices? This means nothing. They were dead on about Tebow. One of the worst picks I've seen in a while.

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This article is pretty outdated though. It's just asking about current thoughts on players in their situations, based on film... There has been no film for months and months.

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Talk about well defined reads.
Dude are gonna be flat out wide-open more then we've seen in a long time.

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[quote=skinsfan69;704684]Isn't every QB rusty in OTA and mini camp practices? This means nothing. They were dead on about Tebow. [B]One of the worst picks I've seen in a while.[/B][/quote]Agreed 100%.

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[quote=backrow;704621]Season is toast! Time for Rexy or Pineapple! :)[/quote]

The Eagles traded McNabb..wait for it.....FOR A REASON. What is that reason? Why I don't have the slightest idea. However I do sound smart when I invoke the 'for a reason' rational.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;704786]The Eagles traded McNabb..wait for it.....FOR A REASON. What is that reason? Why I don't have the slightest idea. However I do sound smart when I invoke the 'for a reason' rational.[/quote]

Of course they traded him for a reason.

They have faith in Kolb obviously, they groomed him and they don't want to lose their QB of the future via FA.
Much like the Packers with Rodgers/Favre.
The difference is that Packers were so bent on keeping Favre out the division that they didn't get much by way of compensation for Favre.
The Eagles FO saw what happended with Favre as a cautionary tale, realizing that McNabb will eventually end up where he wants to go they may as well try to get compensation for him.

I would like to claim this as my own opinion but i heard it from John Clayton first.

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Yeah, it still surprises me that they let McNabb go.
- Sure, the eagles haven't gone anywhere for years -- but then again, they were *so close*, and now have young WRs.
- Sure, they think they have something with Kolb -- but then again, they already had a ProBowl QB.
- Sure, McNabb probably only has 3-4 years left -- but why trade him within-division?

I just can't come up with a "reason"... yet. But I agree there's something to it..

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[quote=ethat001;705027]Yeah, it still surprises me that they let McNabb go.
- Sure, the eagles haven't gone anywhere for years -- but then again, they were *so close*, and now have young WRs.
- Sure, they think they have something with Kolb -- but then again, they already had a ProBowl QB.
- Sure, [B]McNabb probably only has 3-4 years left [/B]-- but why trade him within-division?

I just can't come up with a "reason"... yet. But I agree there's something to it..[/quote]



I think only 2 or 3. That's my new name for McNabb! 2&3! That's what he costs, that's what he is. At least through the part of the season that leads to the POs. After that, he will have earned his usual 5!

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So after the season is done:

McNabb (13 games): 3377 yards, 14 td, 15 int
J.Campbell (13 games): 2387 yards, 13 td, 8 int

We traded McNabb for 2nd (2010) and 4th (2011)
We traded JC for 4th rounder (2012)

Basically we wasted a 2nd rounder for McNabb, and JC played better than him this year. I think most did not want McNabb - but were conflicted/okay with the trade at the time -- but in hindsight this was a complete waste of a 2nd rounder. Hard to stomach that in the beginning of a coach's tenure -- hope it doesn't happen again. We need all our picks going forward.

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While there's absolutely nothing to base this on, I feel comfortable saying that if JC was still here, the stats and results would have been about the same.

We'd have two more draft picks of course, and that's what makes the trade for McNabb indefensible at this point. Still, I don't know that "most did not want" him. I'd say it was pretty even for and against.

Playing the 'what if' game for a moment ... If JC wasn't here, if they didn't make the trade for McNabb, and they stuck it out with Rex or some other journeyman QB all year -- there would have been a lot of people wondering what might have been if we had a quarterback worth anything for the 2010 season.

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I would say Oakland was an overall better fit for JC than we were for McNabb. Oakland has good line, decent run game and a great D. I can't say we had/have any of those.