Training Camp Questions & Answers (SS33 Recap on Post #46)
 

We had a thread like this last year, where folks could post questions they have about what's going on at camp, what happening with specific players, position battles, position group performance, etc. Those of us who are going to Training Camp would do our best to answer them.

I'm scheduled to go on Aug. 3rd. and I'm sure a few others are going as well. If you happen to see me at camp, and have a good grasp of Redskins history, you'll know who I am.

Fire away with questions.

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There's a Philip Daniels Q&A session that was on ExtremeSkins recently...apparently he came on and answered a lot of questions. Understandably, very vanilla responses but there were a few gems.

My favorite was someone asking him to compare Orakpo to someone he had played with/against and he answered, "a young Lawrence Taylor". Very happy to hear that comparison to say the least.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;714534]There's a Philip Daniels Q&A session that was on ExtremeSkins recently...apparently he came on and answered a lot of questions. Understandably, very vanilla responses but there were a few gems.

[B]My favorite was someone asking him to compare Orakpo to someone he had played with/against and he answered, "a young Lawrence Taylor". [/B]Very happy to hear that comparison to say the least.[/quote]Cripes, I knew Daniels was old but I didn't think he was [I]that[/I] old.

Anyway, if possible, can someone try to get a feel for the running back situation. As in, does one guy seem to be getting more reps, look crisper, break away more often, etc.

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SS33- I would like to know how the Oline looks and in specific TW. How is he doing adjusting to the speed of the NFL with pads on. It will be different for the big man when guys get helmets and pads. Just your over all opinion of our new offensive line would be nice Sammy.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;714522]We had a thread like this last year, where folks could post questions they have about what's going on at camp, what happening with specific players, position battles, position group performance, etc. Those of us who are going to Training Camp would do our best to answer them.

I'm scheduled to go on Aug. 3rd. and I'm sure a few others are going as well. If you happen to see me at camp, and have a good grasp of Redskins history, you'll know who I am.

Fire away with questions.[/quote]
just tell! haha

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First I want to say that you do a great job reporting from camp even without our questions. Thank you.

I'd be curious to hear how Carter is managing at OLB, especially in coverage, given his experience with the 49ers.

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Do we have a quarterback?

[QUOTE]One reality that pretty much flew under the radar during OTAs and minicamps was McNabb’s performance–he did not exactly shine while running the offense. His passes frequently fell to the ground either as a result of McNabb throwing to the wrong spot, or going to the right area but misfiring. The Washington offense was far from appearing to be a well-oiled machine.

Now, part of the reason that this wasn’t discussed much is that it was somewhat expected given McNabb’s lack of experience in making such transitions. But such excuses will end when training camp starts. If too many passes are hitting the ground during 11-on-11 drills at Redskins Park, or if McNabb doesn’t look sharp in preseason games, the pressure to fix whatever is wrong will be ratcheted up several notches. An 11-year veteran is expected to have a highly compressed learning curve, regardless of his past history in having to deal with change.[/QUOTE]

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Good question davy.

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where did that quote come from Davy? I think we all know a portion of McNabbs throws are going to hit the ground. What we are counting on is that the deep balls are going to hit the receivers.

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/07/20/10/Redskins-On-The-Spot-Donovan-McNabb/landing_v3.html?blockID=274749&feedID=4717]Redskins On The Spot: Donovan McNabb[/url]

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thanks

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[quote=davy;714718]Do we have a quarterback?[/quote]

I'm not at all concerned about how a QB does in May and June.. If those same reports and concerns appear in about 3 weeks then let's be worried.

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Sorry, thought I included the link at the bottom but obviously not.
Thanks SS.

It's no secret that McNabb is very streaky and has a habit of throwing into the ground. My biggest concern is whether throwing less often than he did with the Eagles will actually make him worse.

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Thanks SS33

My main concern are the line backers are we going to have a good group or are they looking lost out there. Fletcher doesnt seem to fit the 3-4 type linebacker.

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How does the whole team look I want an honest review/opinion. I'm an optimistic type of person but I would like a glass half empty type of review/opinion.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;714960]How does the whole team look I want an honest review/opinion. I'm an optimistic type of person but I would like a glass half empty type of review/opinion.[/quote]

Maybe a little more specifically, how is the offense looking so far in terms of chemistry, OL progression, RBs etc.?

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how are the DB's doing Carlos really has my concern due they look like an improved unit. Also what do you get from Keenan McCardell as a coach does he look as if comands the respesct a coach should get and how are our wideouts.

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[quote=warpaint;714974]how are the DB's doing Carlos really has my concern due they look like an improved unit. Also what do you get from Keenan McCardell as a coach does he look as if comands the respesct a coach should get and how are our wideouts.[/quote]

Not that I'm not interested as well and not to answer for SS but PD said that 'Los looks like the most improved and that it's really fitting him well

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[quote=rbanerjee23;714966]Maybe a little more specifically, how is the offense looking so far in terms of chemistry, OL progression, RBs etc.?[/quote]

My original post started with how are the WR's, RB's, OL, DL, but then I erased it & posted the whole team.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;714980]My original post started with how are the WR's, RB's, OL, DL, but then I erased it & posted the whole team.[/quote]

lol, an answer to either would be welcome :)

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Per JReid (via Twitter)

Carlos Rogers finally got back to me. He'll sign $1.54-million tender and practice Thursday.

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Per RickMaese (via Twitter)

WR Malcolm Kelly hurt his hamstring working out in Arizona with McNabb last week, according to @jreid_post

Not good...

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My question is how are the newbies to camp doing namely RT Brown and Haynesworth.
I think there is a rookie from UCLA that hasn't had camp yet too...I think it is WR armstrong.

I am also really interested in special teams since they are totally in flux

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[quote=skinsnut;715031]My question is how are the newbies to camp doing namely RT Brown and Haynesworth.
I[B] think there is a rookie from UCLA that hasn't had camp yet too[/B]...I think it is WR armstrong.

I am also really interested in special teams since they are totally in flux[/quote]


Terrence Austin is the WR.

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Great questions everyone. I'll do the best I can to cover as many as possible. I'm sure I'll have some help from other folks going as well. Keep 'em coming.

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I was going to go down on Saturday, looking less likely now

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I HOPE that you guys that are visiting camp WILL be posting in GREAT detail?????

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[quote=Ruhskins;715022]Per JReid (via Twitter)

Carlos Rogers finally got back to me. He'll sign $1.54-million tender and practice Thursday.[/quote]


Good to read this. I was wondering when he was going to get this deal signed. One less potential problem to worry about.

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[quote=SmootSmack;715049]I was going to go down on Saturday, looking less likely now[/quote]Just hold off and go on the 3rd :)

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There was a quick story the other day that stated we needed to cut 2 guys before camp. This was about a week ago. Did they get the roster down to size ( had to lose 2 guys because we were at 82 players ) or was that a piece of miss-information out there?

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[quote=Ruhskins;715022]Per JReid (via Twitter)

Carlos Rogers finally got back to me. He'll sign $1.54-million tender and practice Thursday.[/quote]


Wait? Somebody talked some sense into Carlos?

He has the 100% worst hands of any db in the league, an injury history and did I mention that he is borderline retarded.

Cool.

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;715067]There was a quick story the other day that stated we needed to cut 2 guys before camp. This was about a week ago. Did they get the roster down to size ( had to lose 2 guys because we were at 82 players ) or was that a piece of miss-information out there?[/QUOTE]

We are at 80, but for Carlos and TW to sign 2 must go. One, I would think, probably is Mike Williams, in some injury related move. Don't know who else will go. Maybe a DL guy since AH may be resolved...

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;715064]Just hold off and go on the 3rd :)[/quote]

Ha! Yeah well, I have to actually work on the 3rd

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Whats happening with the RB competition? I've heard Larry Johnson might supplant Portis as the starter........

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^

Not going to happen. Portis will be better than he has been in the past few seasons, ready to go and motivated. LJ will take plenty of carries but that will only help keep CP fresh.

If we get Westbrook, I could see he and CP lining up in the backfield, with BW going out for a screen...or even Westbrook lining up as a WR. Minimal carries.

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I'm interested in two of our mid-round picks -- LB Perry Riley and FB/TE Dennis Morris. I'm curious to see how they look.

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Just got back from camp a little bit ago. The majority of the practice was on the far field so getting a good view of the team drills was difficult.

Here's what I've got to answer questions and then a few observations & thoughts:

Starting OL: LT - T. Williams, LG - Dock, C - Rabach, RG - Hicks, RT - J. Brown
2nd Unit: LT - W. Robinson, LG - E. Williams, C - Lichtensteiger, RG - Rinehart, RT - Heyer

Starting WRs: Moss & Galloway
RBs rotation is: CP, LJ, WP, then others

For the OL, I was able to get a good view of the OL/DL 1-on-1 pass rush period. I gave a +1 if the OL controlled the DL or pushed them past the pocket. I gave an = if the DL got a slight push, but the OL maintained position between the DL and QB. I gave a -1 if the OL was beaten and a -2 if they completely whiffed. Here's how each OL performed:
69 - J. Brown: +3 / -1
75 - Hicks: +2 / -2
61 - Rabach: +1 / -3 (1 whiff)
66 - Dock: +1
72 - T. Williams: +4
77 - Rinehart: +2 / 2=
78 - Lichtensteiger: +2 / 2= / -2 (1 whiff)
73 - W. Robinson: +2 / 1= / -1
68 - Oldenburg: +2 / 1= / -1
60 - Capers: 1= / -2
50 - E. Williams: +2 / 2= / -3
63 - Montgomery: +2 / 2= / -2

The DL who stood our in the period were: Darrion Scott with 4 "wins", Rob Jackson with 3, and Vonnie Holliday with 2. Several others had 1 win.

On the OL, I think we'll be good at T (barring injury) with TW, Brown, Heyer, Hicks. Our interior line will struggle in pass pro, but should be solid in the run game. I wouldn't be surprised if Lichtensteiger takes over at C before the year is over. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rinehart doesn't move into a starting role at RG. I think E. Williams versatility keeps him on the roster. I see Capers on the practice squad.

Trent Williams appears to have good quick feet and a strong base. I was a bit concerned over his low bench numbers when compared to Okung, but he's having no issue adjusting to the speed of the NFL and didn't get man-handled by anyone.

McCardell is involved with the WRs. He's quiet but does talk with them. He stayed with the young WRs while they got work with the machine after practice. He had on the arm pads for bump work off the line.
The position coaches all are working with their groups but are not vocal to where you can hear anything from the sidelines. I'm sure they're much more vocal in meetings and closed practices.

Special Teams: No news is good news. No competiton at P & K. Bidwell and Gano both looked fine, nothing that would send up any red flags. Both kicked well. Gano nailed a 56 yarder and then missed a second one right. Leg strength doesn't appear to be any issue.
Austin, Brandon Banks, and Buchanon were fielding punts. At one point Moss was too.

Defensive Starters today: LDE - Daniels, NT - Kemo, RDE - Holliday
LOLB - Alexander, LILB - Rocky, RILB - Fletch, ROLB - Orakpo
LCB - Hall, S - Moore, S - Landry, RCB - Rogers
2nd Unit: LDE - Carriker, NT- not 100% but I think Bryant, RDE - Golston,
LOLB - Carter, LILB - Blades, RILB - Riley, ROLB - unsure
LCB - K. Barnes, S - Doughty, S- Horton, RCB - Buchanon

The defense is bringing pressure and moving folks around. Opposing QBs won't pre-read us as easily as last year for sure.

I asked Malcom Kelly what he felt the difference from this year to last year was and he said the offense is more complicated, but that it was a good thing because we won't be as predictable as last year. He said he expects his hamstring to be healed in "a week".

I asked Phillip Daniels how he felt in the 3-4. He said, "Good", and then laughed and said you mean the 3-7. That sounds great to me!! He also mentioned he feels like he's 28. He's in great shape and moving well.

Grossman knows the offense and is accurate in QB drill and pass skeleton. McNabb looks a little too relaxed in QB drills, his passes aren't always as crisp or on target as they should be. However after every poor/mediocre throw he comes back with a good throw. In pass skeleton he looked fine. Unfortunately I couldn't get a good view of the team drills to evaluate what was going on. My son and I met McNabb at the hotel in the elevator on the way down to head out for camp. We spoke briefly, he was pleasant and seems to be a good guy, although he looked a bit tired. At the end of practice, he looked tired as well, but went over to sign autographs for about a few minutes.

I wouldn't read too much into any of the QB performance right now. New personel, new offense, an aggressive D. McNabb is our starter, Grossman's the #2, Bartel/Beck will compete for the #3 and the other will wind up on the practice squad.

Other observations from Camp:
- In team there was a nice reverse with Parker that picked up about 9 yds.
- Grossman has a nice completion to Davis in a mid-deep zone.
- Landry made a great read and break up on a screen.
- Haynesworth has lost a great deal of weight. He was moving fine in drills. I'm sure the whole "conditioning test" thing and knee will be over by next week and he'll be practicing.
- In general, less flab all around compared to last year, especially on the OL/DL, Portis also.
- Weird, but very nice to see, Samuels in coaching gear.
- Defintely a more business-like approach than last year.
- KS is in control of the O, more complex route combos, progressions should be fast and obvious.
- Cooley and Orakpo were working together during a special team period. IMO, Orakpo is still going to be a liability in man coverage. Cooley also will not be blocking any D. Ware/Orakpo level folks one-on-one (LOL).
- TW and Dock got abused on a B-gap blitz in team. Not sure if it was them or the back failed to pick up. From far away it appeared to be a TW mis-read, but not sure.

Final thoughts:
- We will have an identity this year. Our D will be aggressive and hard to read. Our O will be a Zone Blocking base with lots of play actions (many PA waggles). Lots of bunch and crossing pass concepts. Our deep shots will come off play action a majority of the time.
- I think we will struggle offensively early, but fortunately the teams with good defenses we face early we have at home (Dallas, GB, Indy). The key will be to establish the run game, if we can we're in good shape. If not, then we'll struggle.
- Defensively we'll be more aggressive, but I think we'll give up some plays in the secondary. Overall our D will make more turnovers and negative plays, but I think we'll wind up in the 10-14 range in YPG and Pts at year end. The D should keep us in most games, but don't expect a dominant D (Jets, Steelers, Vikings).
- McNabb's ability to move around combined with a good ground game should have our O on track by mid-season. I don't see us blowing people out, but more of a methodical control the clock, be efficient, approach. McNabb's not a pure passer and our wide-outs are average (unless DT and Kelly make big strides). Our TEs will both be heavily involved.

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Thanks for the quick hits SS33. If that O-Line can stay healthy and play well for 16 games, that would be a nice change of pace. Any weak links on either unit?

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;717116]Just got back from camp a little bit ago. The majority of the practice was on the far field so getting a good view of the team drills was difficult.

Here's what I've got to answer questions and then a few observations & thoughts:

Starting OL: LT - T. Williams, LG - Dock, C - Rabach, RG - Hicks, RT - J. Brown
[B]2nd Unit: LT - W. Robinson, LG - E. Williams, C - Lichtensteiger, RG - Rinehart, RT - Heyer[/B]

Starting WRs: Moss & Galloway
RBs rotation is: CP, LJ, WP, then others

McCardell is involved with the WRs. He's quiet but does talk with them. He stayed with the young WRs while they got work with the machine after practice. He had on the arm pads for bump work off the line.
The position coaches all are working with their groups but are not vocal to where you can hear anything from the sidelines. I'm sure they're much more vocal in meetings and closed practices.

Special Teams: No news is good news. No competiton at P & K. Bidwell and Gano both looked fine, nothing that would send up any red flags. Both kicked well. Gano nailed a 56 yarder and then missed a second one right. Leg strength doesn't appear to be any issue.
Austin, Brandon Banks, and Buchanon were fielding punts. At one point Moss was too.

More to come later.......[/quote]

At first glance, although the overall quality of the OL is greatly improved over the unit we fielded last year, the depth is just not there at any position. As sad as it is, Heyer is the only that would be kind of comfortable given how much game experience he got last year.

Here's hoping Shanahan's OL coaching abilities come through and we avoid injuries.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;717116]Just got back from camp a little bit ago. The majority of the practice was on the far field so getting a good view of the team drills was difficult.

Here's what I've got to answer questions and then a few observations & thoughts:

Starting OL: LT - T. Williams, LG - Dock, C - Rabach, RG - Hicks, RT - J. Brown
2nd Unit: LT - W. Robinson, LG - E. Williams, C - Lichtensteiger, RG - Rinehart, RT - Heyer

Starting WRs: Moss & Galloway
RBs rotation is: CP, LJ, WP, then others

McCardell is involved with the WRs. He's quiet but does talk with them. He stayed with the young WRs while they got work with the machine after practice. He had on the arm pads for bump work off the line.
The position coaches all are working with their groups but are not vocal to where you can hear anything from the sidelines. I'm sure they're much more vocal in meetings and closed practices.

Special Teams: No news is good news. No competiton at P & K. Bidwell and Gano both looked fine, nothing that would send up any red flags. Both kicked well. Gano nailed a 56 yarder and then missed a second one right. Leg strength doesn't appear to be any issue.
Austin, Brandon Banks, and Buchanon were fielding punts. At one point Moss was too.

More to come later.......[/quote]

Personally a little worried that Capers and Cook aren't working with that second unit. However it's still early in camp and they're late round rookies. It seems that unless you're a fourth overall pick like Williams that you have to truly earn your spot over the veterans.


[quote=rbanerjee23;717122]At first glance, although the overall quality of the OL is greatly improved over the unit we fielded last year, the depth is just not there at any position. As sad as it is, Heyer is the only that would be kind of comfortable given how much game experience he got last year.

Here's hoping Shanahan's OL coaching abilities come through and we avoid injuries.[/quote]

Well remember the main tackles that would be utilized for gameday would be Williams, Brown, and Hicks. For example if Brown goes down then Hicks kicks out and Rinehart comes in. If Williams goes down then Brown slides to LT, Hicks goes to RT, and Rinehart plays RG (or whoever else emerges as the best interior lineman).

I'm hoping right now that the only pure backup tackle that makes the roster is Capers. Though Cook is capable of playing every position along the line. God knows he has the size to play LT if need be, but hopefully it never comes down to that.