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steveo395 07-29-2010 12:43 AM

Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/malcolm-kelly-injured-during-hell-week/]Malcolm Kelly injured during "Hell Week" | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Hamstring injury. You never know with them. This could mess up his whole season or it could be nothing.

GMScud 07-29-2010 01:42 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=steveo395;715083][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/malcolm-kelly-injured-during-hell-week/"]Malcolm Kelly injured during "Hell Week" | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

Hamstring injury. You never know with them. This could mess up his whole season or it could be nothing.[/quote]

Awesome. Malcolm needs a consistent streak of good health or his career is going to flicker out. This isn't good news.

I had a pretty intense session in the weight room on Sunday, and followed it up with a 5 mile interval run. My right hamstring was tight as shit all day Monday and yesterday. Today it was fine. Hamstring tightness could be something, could be nothing. Hopefully Malcolm works it out.

skinsfan_nn 07-29-2010 06:16 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Kelly sure has had a time with nagging injuries. I consided this a make or break season for Kelly.

rbanerjee23 07-29-2010 06:22 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=GMScud;715090]Awesome. Malcolm needs a consistent streak of good health or his career is going to flicker out. This isn't good news.

[B]I had a pretty intense session in the weight room on Sunday, and followed it up with a 5 mile interval run.[/B] My right hamstring was tight as shit all day Monday and yesterday. Today it was fine. Hamstring tightness could be something, could be nothing. Hopefully Malcolm works it out.[/quote]

Thanks for the update on your workout

SmootSmack 07-29-2010 07:23 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
If only we still had Marko Mitchell...

Seriously though, time is running out on Kelly.

ethat001 07-29-2010 07:26 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Either Kelly has bad "luck", or just a bad body. Seems like the other guys who have gone to McNabb's camp every year came out okay, and I hope this was a fluke. It's football and there are always injuries, but I'm just tired of our WRs constantly pulling hammy's and getting surgery -- and blaming those for lack of production. Again, another lingering injury ruins his career. With McNabb here, this is it for him for excuses....

And yes, keep us updated GMScud. ;)

SmootSmack 07-29-2010 07:39 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Shame is Kelly has impressed when healthy.

Schneed10 07-29-2010 08:08 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715113]Shame is Kelly has impressed when healthy.[/quote]

Impressed who? Zorn's staff or Shanahan's?

I know Zorn's staff and Vinny were impressed, but I tend to take their opinions with a grain of salt, all things considered.

SmootSmack 07-29-2010 08:11 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=Schneed10;715120]Impressed who? Zorn's staff or Shanahan's?

I know Zorn's staff and Vinny were impressed, but I tend to take their opinions with a grain of salt, all things considered.[/quote]

Impressed Shanahan this past spring

Schneed10 07-29-2010 08:16 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715122]Impressed Shanahan this past spring[/quote]

OK that makes me feel a little better about him.

I can't help it, after a 4-12 season I tend to completely discount anything Zorn and Vinny ever said. Makes me call into question the conventional wisdom that's been steered by the team's talent evaluation to date.

But I do trust Shanahan, so if he's impressed then I feel better.

MTK 07-29-2010 08:18 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Could be nothing really. It's not out of the ordinary for guys to have some tightness as they start ramping back up to full speed.

johno 07-29-2010 08:19 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715113]Shame is Kelly has impressed when healthy.[/quote]

more so than D.Thomas? I feel like DT had a distinct advantage coming out of last season, and this injury to MK just adds to it.

Dirtbag59 07-29-2010 08:28 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Sign T.O. before the ink dries on his new contract.

SBXVII 07-29-2010 08:49 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
I want to say something sarcastic and funny...... lol, I got nothing. This is sad.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-29-2010 09:07 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/wide-receivers/malcolm-kelly-expected-to-miss.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly expected to miss at least two days[/url]

He will miss two days. From reading a few articles the last couple of days it appeared that Malcom was right in line with the starting job, and that Shanahan likes what he can do.

MTK 07-29-2010 09:15 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Wow, he's dropped 15 lbs. Sounds like a lot of guys are in top shape coming into this year.

Monkeydad 07-29-2010 09:20 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
No big issue yet.

Arizona's heat is likely the culprit. He'll probably be fine in a few days.

Monkeydad 07-29-2010 09:22 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Here's a better source that says a little more than "Malcolm Kelly got hurt":

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/wide-receivers/malcolm-kelly-injures-hamstrin.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly injures hamstring at Donovan McNabb's 'Hell Week'[/URL]

[QUOTE]Kelly experienced tightness in his hamstring during one of the workouts, the sources said. He immediately contacted the Redskins' medical/training staff for guidance. The Redskins plan to proceed cautiously with Kelly, who worked hard to overcome knee problems and microfracture surgery after his rookie season. Coach Mike Shanahan is expected to address Kelly's situation after the first practice Thursday.

Although the injury is not considered serious, the team would rather have Kelly rest and receive treatment than try to participate in the early stages of camp. Hamstring injuries can linger, especially when players rush back before they are completely healed.[/QUOTE]

mlmpetert 07-29-2010 09:28 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715103][B]If only we still had Marko Mitchell...[/B]

Seriously though, time is running out on Kelly.[/quote]

[B]Right????[/B]

Also as pft points out MK has missed 11 games in his frist 2 seasons, but i think some of the games he has missed has been because he just wasnt up to speed on things and he cant be used in special teams. Not all related directly to injury. When i first saw this thread i was thinking his knees, which is a huge relief. Hopefully the micro fractor surgery is going to work for him. Either way lets that hammy is good to go asap.

ArtMonkDrillz 07-29-2010 09:33 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[IMG]http://media.scout.com/media/image/54/547118.jpg[/IMG] [B][SIZE="7"]= [/SIZE][/B][IMG]http://writelife.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/slj_unbreakable.jpg[/IMG]

Gmanc711 07-29-2010 09:33 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=mlmpetert;715162][B]Right????[/B]

Also as pft points out MK has missed 11 games in his frist 2 seasons, but i think some of the games he has missed has been because he just wasnt up to speed on things and he cant be used in special teams. Not all related directly to injury. When i first saw this thread i was thinking his knees, which is a huge relief. Hopefully the micro fractor surgery is going to work for him. Either way lets that hammy is good to go asap.[/quote]

I agree. Kelly is the guy I really wanted to see step up, just because he's a huge target over the middle... I hope this is just a small blip and he gets going and gets on track..

I mean I dont know a ton about the everyday stuff and looking at his route running and what he did wrong last year to see the bench...but I felt like they never used him right. He's a huge dude, throw a couple fades, short 7 yard crossing routes and stuff like that... maybe he's not capable of it, I have no idea. The one thing I'm really excited for with Shannahan, is that I think he'll use guys the right way and play to their strenghts. Thats somethign that Zorn never did and to be honest there were times with Gibbs wehre I thought the same thing.

mlmpetert 07-29-2010 09:35 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=Buster;715159]Here's a better source that says a little more than "Malcolm Kelly got hurt":

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/wide-receivers/malcolm-kelly-injures-hamstrin.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly injures hamstring at Donovan McNabb's 'Hell Week'[/URL][/quote]


This is what pisses me off about Jason Reid:

"McNabb, as he did during his time with the Philadelphia Eagles, invited some of his new teammates to his Phoenix-area home for a week of grueling workouts and team building. [I]Wideouts Devin Thomas, Santana Moss and Kelly were among those expected to participate."[/I]

Hell week is over and you still cant find find out exactly who participated?

KLHJ2 07-29-2010 09:42 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=mlmpetert;715166]This is what pisses me off about Jason Reid:

"McNabb, as he did during his time with the Philadelphia Eagles, invited some of his new teammates to his Phoenix-area home for a week of grueling workouts and team building. [I]Wideouts Devin Thomas, Santana Moss and Kelly were among those expected to participate."[/I]

Hell week is over and you still cant find find out exactly who participated?[/quote]

Maybe you are not reading it the way that he intended? The way that I read it is that "They had no choice but to show up" as opposed to "We believe that they were going to attend but we are not quite sure." They Know who was there.

Monkeydad 07-29-2010 09:48 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Yeah, I read it as "expected by McNabb to show up or else...", not "we think these are the guys who are coming".

KI Skins Fan 07-29-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
I'm half-expecting to see a headline that reads: "Malcolm Kelly Injured While Sleeping."

[U]If[/U] he can stay healthy, he may become a real weapon for this team. I think he needed to lose the weight to increase his quickness and speed - primarily his quickness. Now, with the work he's done on his conditioning, I think he's better positioned to succeed.

When he was in college he effectively used his big body to shield the ball from defenders and he was able to jump over them, as well. I think he [U]should[/U] be a solid possession receiver in the NFL.

We all should probably watch some old Ed McCaffrey highlights. That should tell us how Shanahan plans to use Kelly.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-29-2010 10:03 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;715163][IMG]http://media.scout.com/media/image/54/547118.jpg[/IMG] [B][SIZE=7]= [/SIZE][/B][IMG]http://writelife.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/slj_unbreakable.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Did he really need to lose wieght? He looks pretty skinny here. :)

SmootSmack 07-29-2010 10:08 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=johno;715139]more so than D.Thomas? I feel like DT had a distinct advantage coming out of last season, and this injury to MK just adds to it.[/quote]

From what I had heard Kelly has been more impressive when both are on the field and the ball is being thrown to them. Kelly has some sick hands...unfortunately he's got sick legs too

SouperMeister 07-29-2010 10:44 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
This is becoming a recurring pattern with Kelly. If he has problems getting on the field this year due to health reasons, it may be time to cut bait.

GMScud 07-29-2010 10:51 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Well, two days doesn't sound like anything major. Agree with mlmpetert, Jason Reid is fairly useless. Redskins Insider hasn't provided anything inside for a while now.

KI Skins Fan 07-29-2010 11:03 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715185]From what I had heard Kelly has been more impressive when both are on the field and the ball is being thrown to them. Kelly has some sick hands...unfortunately he's got sick legs too[/quote]

I have no problem with DT's hands. From what I've seen, he catches everything thrown to him.

DT is a phenomenal athlete. Before he was drafted, it was well-known that he didn't have a lot of college experience at WR and that it would take some time for him develop as a pro WR. That has proven to be the case; however, when he finally gets it, his superior speed and quickness should help him to earn a starting job, IMHO.

As long as Kelly can stay on the field, I have a lot of faith that DT and MK can both have solid careers. I'm among those who thought that it would take them both some time to arrive, for different reasons (health, in the case of MK). I also believe that their development was retarded by inadequate conditioning, a pathetic offense under Zorn, and poor coaching by Stan Hixon.

CRedskinsRule 07-29-2010 11:08 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
1067thefandc

Kelly: "I got straight off the plane and went over to the field to run routes during hell week. It got tight on me. It's nothing major." -GP about 13 hours ago via web Retweeted by Rich_Campbell

SmootSmack 07-29-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;715211]I have no problem with DT's hands. From what I've seen, he catches everything thrown to him.

DT is a phenomenal athlete. Before he was drafted, it was well-known that he didn't have a lot of college experience at WR and that it would take some time for him develop as a pro WR. That has proven to be the case; however, when he finally gets it, his superior speed and quickness should help him to earn a starting job, IMHO.

As long as Kelly can stay on the field, I have a lot of faith that DT and MK can both have solid careers. I'm among those who thought that it would take them both some time to arrive, for different reasons (health, in the case of MK). I also believe that their development was retarded by inadequate conditioning, a pathetic offense under Zorn, and poor coaching by Stan Hixon.[/quote]

I agree with you on DT. I think he's potentially on the verge of greatness. I think Kelly can be a solid starter for years (if he can stay healthy), but Thomas, in my opinion, has pro-bowl potential

mlmpetert 07-29-2010 01:02 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Buster & Angry i see what you guys are saying and i think youre right. But it does seem that Reid doesnt put out nearly as much as JLC and doesnt have as much of a "insider" presence as JLC did. Plus Reid isnt nearly as critical as JLC was, which i liked a lot. Hopefully all that will change in time.

Monkeydad 07-29-2010 01:05 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;715213]1067thefandc

Kelly: "I got straight off the plane and went over to the field to run routes during hell week. It got tight on me. It's nothing major." -GP about 13 hours ago via web Retweeted by Rich_Campbell[/quote]

Of course, the Arizona cops immediately started chasing him...asking to see a copy of his contract. Can't blame Malcolm for running before stretching. :silly:

skinsfan69 07-29-2010 01:16 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715122]Impressed Shanahan this past spring[/quote]

he impressed w/out pads on. really doesn't mean much. kelly can't afford any injuries at this point. his time is running out.

skinsfan69 07-29-2010 01:19 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715214]I agree with you on DT. I think [B]he's potentially on the verge of greatness. [/B]I think Kelly can be a solid starter for years (if he can stay healthy), but Thomas, in my opinion, has pro-bowl potential[/quote]

i'd say more like a 50 to 60 catch season with about 700 to 800 yards and 4 or 5 td's is more realistic. he's got to crawl before he can walk.

skinsfan69 07-29-2010 01:23 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
what is so annoying is these guys are part time players and they always seem to be nicked up. that is why i really wanted marshall. he plays week in and week out. and please no comments on the bs w/ mcdaniels during the last week of the season.

Defensewins 07-29-2010 01:29 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
Malcolm Kelly=Taylor Jacobs
Soft and injury prone.
Has MK not been injured during a Redskins training camp? The guy is a walking hamstring injury.

NYCskinfan82 07-29-2010 02:18 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=Defensewins;715306]Malcolm Kelly=Taylor Jacobs
Soft and injury prone.
Has MK not been injured during a Redskins training camp? The guy is a walking hamstring injury.[/quote]


MK was never known for having hamstring problems that was DT.

GTripp0012 07-29-2010 02:56 PM

Re: Malcolm Kelly Injured During Hell Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;715185]From what I had heard Kelly has been more impressive when both are on the field and the ball is being thrown to them. Kelly has some sick hands...unfortunately he's got sick legs too[/quote]Kind of my worst fears (nearly) realized with that 2008 draft class. I'd say more talent evaluation misses occur due to 1) overestimation of a sample of talent, and 2) injury history, than any other variables. Four months from now, we might be saying that Vinny missed on both variables on two different players in the same round.

Which would be very unlucky, but not shocking.


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