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I'm loving the separation that Anthony Armstrong and Brandon Banks are getting in pass routes. I first thought that Shanny should only keep one, but how can both not make the team the way that they're playing? Malcolm Kelly should be VERY nervous.

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[quote=SouperMeister;722973]I'm loving the separation that Anthony Armstrong and Brandon Banks are getting in pass routes. I first thought that Shanny should only keep one, but how can both not make the team the way that they're playing? Malcolm Kelly should be VERY nervous.[/quote]

You are correct. Armstrong has come out of nowhere to be very impressive.

Trent Williams needs strength and experience but he should be a good one.

For a new scheme, and with a few bumps, our defense has played pretty well. Although there will be rough spots ahead, the transition to the 3-4 may be more painless than a lot of people feared.

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MK shouldn't even bother

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[quote=SouperMeister;722973]I'm loving the separation that Anthony Armstrong and Brandon Banks are getting in pass routes. I first thought that Shanny should only keep one, but how can both not make the team the way that they're playing? Malcolm Kelly should be VERY nervous.[/quote]

This is exactly what I was thinking - Shanahan could try utilize Banks like he utilized Eddie Royal within a few years, when Banks get enough experiences.. Although Banks is still small.. Armstrong can stretch the field, if McNabb didn't threw it under then it would have been a touchdown easily.. If he continues to this next two games, then I hope we can keep him and maybe replace Moss with Armstrong next year or so..

After the game, like you guys said, Kelly should be worried.. Would it be possible for us to put him on PUP for a little while, it should give us an extra time to make the decision?

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[quote=GridIron26;722984]This is exactly what I was thinking - Shanahan could try utilize Banks like he utilized Eddie Royal within a few years, when Banks get enough experiences.. Although Banks is still small.. Armstrong can stretch the field, if McNabb didn't threw it under then it would have been a touchdown easily.. If he continues to this next two games, then I hope we can keep him and maybe replace Moss with Armstrong next year or so..

After the game, like you guys said, Kelly should be worried.. Would it be possible for us to put him on PUP for a little while, it should give us an extra time to make the decision?[/quote]

Eddie Royal has 4 inches and 20 pounds on Banks. Besides I've never seen it work out where a team takes a special teams ace and puts him on offense full time. It's nice in theory but it seldom ever works. I'd rather try Terrance Austin or Anthony Armstrong in the Eddie Royal role.

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Smoot answered the PUP list question in another thread so I can pass it along to ya.

Since MK started training camp on the active roster he cannot be put on the PUP list.

So, No is the short answer to that Gridiron.

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MK is on thin ice for sure..Anyone go to the game last night and notice that Kelly was featured on the ticket? Maybe that is a ploy to get him to work harder.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;722986]Eddie Royal has 4 inches and 20 pounds on Banks. Besides I've never seen it work out where a team takes a special teams ace and puts him on offense full time. It's nice in theory but it seldom ever works. I'd rather try Terrance Austin or Anthony Armstrong in the Eddie Royal role.[/quote]

True.. Armstrong could fit in as the player too.. We will find out soon enough..

Edit: thanks, art..

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MK is done! If you don't even dress for pre-season you can't impress the new coaches who did not draft you... short rope for that hanging!

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[quote=2BIG2BSKINNY;723017]MK is done! If you don't even dress for pre-season you can't impress the new coaches who did not draft you... short rope for that hanging![/quote]

My guess is he will be put on IR, I don't think they would throw away a 2nd round pick. They could also trade him.

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bright spot:

on that 3rd and 14 on the first drive. the ravens D has their ears peeled back ready to blitz.

blitz comes, mcnabb knew it was coming, rolled back and to his left to buy some time, hits cooley with an accurate ball on the run.

sorry to do this (compare mc to jc) but JC wouldnt have had the presence or pre-read ability to calmly buy time and make the throw for a first. he probably would have just got sacked or dump it off for a gain short of the 1st down marker.

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[quote=SouperMeister;722973]I'm loving the separation that Anthony Armstrong and Brandon Banks are getting in pass routes. I first thought that Shanny should only keep one, but how can both not make the team the way that they're playing? Malcolm Kelly should be VERY nervous.[/quote]

Armstrong has to make this team and so does Banks. Also good to see Moss getting open too. Passing game will be better this year. Better design and better QB.

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Armstrong has been very impressive...but his success won't have an impact on Kelly. Different types of receivers filling different needs.

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[quote=skinsfan69;723113]Armstrong has to make this team and so does Banks. Also good to see Moss getting open too. Passing game will be better this year. Better design and better QB.[/quote]

This. How exciting is it to actually have a quarterback BACK in DC again!!!????

I hope he proves all the naysayers wrong, wins a championship with us, and retires as a Redskin in 4 or 5 years.

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I really like Rich Campbell's breakdowns, the Post ought to get him in as the Skins coverage guy. I don't understand why the Fredericksburg Post gives consistently better coverage than local media:

[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2010/08/23/game-balls-gassers-and-observations-ravens-23-redskins-3/]Game Balls, Gassers and Observations: Ravens 23, Redskins 3 - Redskins Journal[/url]

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A bright spot from the game IMO, was the Redskins starting Defense. They are quick to the ball getting in the backfield making plays. I think that as pre-season roles along the Defense will see their mistakes and correct them, example where Orakpo had Rice in the backfield but Orakpo didn't breakdown in time to make the tackle.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;723128]I really like Rich Campbell's breakdowns, the Post ought to get him in as the Skins coverage guy. I don't understand why the Fredericksburg Post gives consistently better coverage than local media:

[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2010/08/23/game-balls-gassers-and-observations-ravens-23-redskins-3/]Game Balls, Gassers and Observations: Ravens 23, Redskins 3 - Redskins Journal[/url][/quote]

Great observation. This guy is far and away providing the best skins coverage now. JReid needs to watch his back.

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Good stuff as always from Campbell.

I liked his point about getting used to McNabb to Cooley. I think that's going to be a huge connection this year.

Also nice to hear good things about McIntosh and Landry.

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Good read. I didnt pay much attention to Hicks play on the line, that is very very concerning if he cant get his sh*t together for us on the inside.

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[quote=Chico23231;723149]Good read. I didnt pay much attention to Hicks play on the line, that is very very concerning if he cant get his sh*t together for us on the inside.[/quote]

Hicks is a journeymen. He is what he is. I hope you're not expecting Russ Grimm in there.

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Armstrong - #3 WR?

Landry - seems to be MUCH better at SS...seems to cover opponents tightly and prevents them from getting open; when receivers do catch balls over the middle, he takes them down immediately. Much better coverage and tackling this year.


Bidwell is money.

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[quote=SmootSmack;723116]Armstrong has been very impressive...but his success won't have an impact on Kelly. Different types of receivers filling different needs.[/quote]

That's true, I didn't think of that way.. U really believe Kelly will be with us through out the season?

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[quote=skinsfan69;723151]Hicks is a journeymen. He is what he is. I hope you're not expecting Russ Grimm in there.[/quote]

Precisely. Hicks is a career backup. He has never been our real solution at RG or RT. He is our solution...for now.

It would be nice if some young buck picked up the slack at RG (looking at you, Rhino), but that has not yet happened.

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[quote=SmootSmack;723116]Armstrong has been very impressive...but his success won't have an impact on Kelly. Different types of receivers filling different needs.[/quote]

If Armstrong makes the team, whos spot is he taking?
I see Moss Thomas and Armstrong as the only 3 sure bets at this point

As much as everyone LOVES banks...the kid had a single touchdown punt return for a TD against the BILLS...now if he could catch passes against 1st or 2nd string...thats a different story.

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[quote=skinsnut;723167]If Armstrong makes the team, whos spot is he taking?
I see Moss Thomas and Armstrong as the only 3 sure bets at this point

As much as everyone LOVES banks...the kid had a single touchdown punt return for a TD against the BILLS...now if he could catch passes against 1st or 2nd string...thats a different story.[/quote]

Isnt roydell williams and bobby wade still on the team? Right there are 2 spots that can be opened up along with the ageless Joey Galloway...

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[quote=GridIron26;723155]That's true, I didn't think of that way.. U really believe Kelly will be with us through out the season?[/quote]

I believe he won't be cut, but that's just my own speculation

As for Armstrong, I think if the season started tonight he's probably #4 right now behind Moss, Williams, and Thomas

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Everyone is so quick to throw Kelly out with the garbage.

He's an incredible talent, tall, fast w/ great hands. And is a solid character guy too - unlike so many talented WR's in the league. He's been struggling to get healthy, which is disappointing, and I agree there has to be a point in time that the team moves on, but I'd give him at least through this season.

He'll be a solid WR in this league, and I have a feeling we'll regret tossing him out with the recycling.

Speaking of recycling, I would not be surprised at all if our 5th WR is someone that is on another team right now. There will be lots of quality WR's cut in the coming weeks and potential to trade a guy that we would otherwise cut for a WR3 or WR4 from another team is still there...

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I am not going to compare Kelly and AH in terms of attitude, but one thing is certain, what matters is what you do consistently, both in practice and on gameday. If the coaches can't count on you to be there for either of those, then regardless of your skills, your value to the team is decidedly diminished. At some point the potential upside no longer outweighs the diminished return. If a marginal tall WR is cut by another team, it wouldn't shock me that we bring them in and test them out to replace Kelly.

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A lot of talk about BAL being a real test for the running game and pass protection, this game revealed some weak spots that need to improved on before becoming a serious contender. Praise the team for their all out hustle. Things will come together soon.

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[quote=Redskins8588;723136]A bright spot from the game IMO, was the Redskins starting Defense. They are quick to the ball getting in the backfield making plays. I think that as pre-season roles along the Defense will see their mistakes and correct them, example where Orakpo had Rice in the backfield but Orakpo didn't breakdown in time to make the tackle.[/quote]

It's a good thing the refs didn't throw a flag every time we were held, with all the clock stopages we might still be playing the game. I thought the first team D did a good job against a team some pick to go to the SB

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[quote=Buster;723153]Armstrong - #3 WR?

[B]Landry - seems to be MUCH better at SS[/B]...seems to cover opponents tightly and prevents them from getting open; when receivers do catch balls over the middle, he takes them down immediately. Much better coverage and tackling this year.


Bidwell is money.[/quote]

It's really more the system then an actual switch of positions. Technically in this defense Landry's position is either left or right safety. In watching the game last night I would constantly see the safety's taking turns playing close to the line of scrimage.

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Donovan McNabb may have had a ugly-looking stat line against the Ravens, but I think that he still played well. He extended plays and converted a lot of third and longs to extend drives. He also looked much more deliberate than JC when pressured. Besides, most of his completions were longer passes because his yards per attempt was 7.9 but his completion percentage was 42.3%. Moreover, those completions often came on third and longs, which are not converted into 1st downs very frequently, especially against a good defense like the Ravens.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;723247]It's really more the system then an actual switch of positions. Technically in this defense Landry's position is either left or right safety. In watching the game last night I would constantly see the safety's taking turns playing close to the line of scrimage.[/quote]

You're right, but he's looking like a talent now...instead of a liability that makes an occasional exciting hit.

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We should remember that even though the Ravens have a top flight D, they are woeful at cornerbacks. (Doug Deutch :)) Still I thought the line really did a decent job of giving McNabb just enough time (coupled with McNabb's poise).

I like how our pre-season schedule has played out, a big win - good for initial confidence and payoff for a hard nose off-season program, the 2nd game against a solid D- 1's on 1's played competitively, and this 3rd game against a solid D including corners, and a shaky O, we should see how well our D can impose it's will on a young qb. The Arizona game should be cancelled :)

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[quote=Dirtbag359;722986]Eddie Royal has 4 inches and 20 pounds on Banks. Besides I've never seen it work out where a team takes a special teams ace and puts him on offense full time. It's nice in theory but it seldom ever works. I'd rather try Terrance Austin or Anthony Armstrong in the Eddie Royal role.[/quote]

Steve Smith for the Panthers (although bigger than Banks) was chosen as a special teams ace. Not that i think banks will succeed as a WR, just sayin that it happened at least once.