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What penalties do you give to:

1. Ron Artest?

2. Stephen Jackson?

3. Jermaine O'neal?

4. Ben Wallace?



My answers:

1. 25 Games for Artest. Had a beer cup not actually been thrown at him, I'd give him a year. You just can't go into the stands though I can't really blame him. Someone throws a cup at me in a bar or at a game, I'm going after him.

2. Jackson-10 games. Precedent was established with Vernon Maxwell

3. O'neal-10 games-same as above.

(Don't know if all suspensions should be served at once as that will leave the Pacers with no team and almost reward the Piston's fan's bad behavior and provocation as it would derail the Pacers season.

4. Ben Wallace-3 games. Yes, this whole thing started with his shove, but he kept it on the court.

Artest... Minimum of 15 games, but proboly more. Everyone who is like " I would have done the same thing " is either lying or just as stupid as him. This kinda crap happens all the time, and people dont go running into the stands. Micheal Irvin said on Countdown today he had batteries thrown at him... hes even a Cowboy but stayed on the feild. This thing happens more than people think, you just gotta let security handle it and arrest the punk. I lean closer to the year for Artest.

Jackson/O'neal - Shouldnt have gone into the stands, but there were like 4 guys trying to kick Artests ass, and they came to his aid, so I give them a little more leway. I think a couple of their punches thrown were complete cheapshots, esepcially O'neals to that guy who was on his knees, but it was on the court, so I dont think it should add to the suspension, it was just cheap shot in my opinion. I'd say 6-7 games a peice.

Wallace - 3 games sounds about right. It would proobly be 1 game or just a fine if that other crap didnt happen, so i'd say 3.

Realisticly, you have to make an example of someone, I think Artest is the obvious fall guy. You need to show everyone in all leagues that this is totaly unacceptable. I would say take him out for the year, and show everyone else how bad what he did was. If they know who those fans were; I would say they should be punished severley as well. Does anyone think jail time will be enforced on the fans or the players?

Artest, half the season

Jackson and O'Neal 10-15 games

Wallace, 3-5 games

Wallace: 10 games

Jackson, Artest, and O'Neal: All get 20 games

Rasheed didn't throw punches, but he did go into the stands right? Does that alone warrant suspension?

The thing with Rasheed is he didnt throw any punches when he was up there, I think he was genuintley just trying to break it up. However, I would say supspend him just for being in the stands, even though I think he was just trying to help. You gotta set examples

FOX Sports Radio is reporting that the following suspensions will be announced by the NBA:

Artest-30 games
Jackson-20 games
O'Neal-20 games
Ben Wallace-5 games

this should give Artest plenty of time to promote his new album

That was such a unique situation, that Rasheed should not get a suspension. If they really have to set an example, give him one game. Still, Rasheed really was trying to be a peacemaker and could be helpful given he was up there with his home fans.

Well I guess Artest is done for the year according to FOX now

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Well I guess Artest is done for the year according to FOX now[/QUOTE]
good, hope he gets a hefty fine too

The Pistons fans' behavior was rewarded by the NBA by effectively taking Indiana out of the mix in the east.

[QUOTE=redrock-skins]The Pistons fans' behavior was rewarded by the NBA by effectively taking Indiana out of the mix in the east.[/QUOTE]


Sad but true... Indiana is gonna suck now; however the fans need to be repromanded, every one of them.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]good, hope he gets a hefty fine too[/QUOTE]

he's been suspended w/o pay I believe so yeah I'd say that's a hefty fine, lol.

guess this gives artest plenty of time to rest and work on promoting his cd some more.

I honestly think its too severe for artest and j. oneal and b. wallace's suspension was not enough. wallace's overreaction and shove was the catalyst for the fans getting even more riled up. yes artest severely crossed the line, but an entire season without pay? I honestly don't remember oneal(atleast I think that was him) doing anything in the stands until that fat white dude in the wallace jersey started punching artest's head from behind while artest was being held, but the shot he gave to the fan on the court in my opinion was deserved(not to mention funny as s@!# seeing that dude get knocked the hell out for coming onto the court and trying to start a fight) fans have no business being on the court or field of play before, during, or after a game because more often than not it leads to something bad and/or someone getting hurt.

all in all this is one of the ugliest incidents in all sports history and could have been swiftly squashed if the refs, as that guy said in the other thread, had immediately ejected wallace and artest. I didn't watch the game but apparently the refs didn't do much that night to stop some pretty rough play and they should be reprimanded as well.


plus did anyone else see the footage of some cop threatening artest on the court with pepper spray while reggie miller and some other guy were trying to keep people away from artest? what the heck was up with that?

I liked what Woody Page on Cold Pizza said this morning that Artest needs "help" not a 73-game suspension.
IMO, Artest kind of get what he wants. He now can promote his rap album and take a relaxing year off and he didn't have to quit on the team ala Ricky Williams. Yes his suspension is w/o pay which will cost him millions, but he is already a multi-millionaire.

O'neal's suspension is just outrageous. Jackson's I understand as he was throwing the most random punches.

O'neal and Jackson should have been suspended for the rest of the season as well. Jackson was try to square off with a Piston who was trying to cool things down before things got real ugly. O'Neal sucker punched that one fan that was just getting up off the court after the hit by Artest.

I don't think Artest will have a relaxing year off. He'll be sued.

I don't like lawsuits, but I think that those three should pay out the teeth for their actions.

This kind of thing is gonna happen in the NFL if they keep allowing the showboating to take place. Except it will be 70k drunk NFL fans rather than 20k drunk NBA fans.

NFL has barriers, fans aren't nearly as close...

What barriers? Shoot, some naked guy (ONE PERSON) made it out onto the field at the SUPER BOWL for goodness sakes. Now, imagine something like what happened in Detroit the other night happen at Lincoln Financial in Philly. It would make the Pistons/ Pacers brawl look like a broadway musical. Just look at what happened in the Clemson/ SC game with no fan involvement...

The guy who threw the first cup of beer sounds like a real winner:

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nice... and by barriers, i mean the seating for fans is elevated and behind a wall thats got some height... in the nba, fans sit at the same level and about 5-10 feet from the court.

[QUOTE=That Guy]nice... and by barriers, i mean the seating for fans is elevated and behind a wall thats got some height... in the nba, fans sit at the same level and about 5-10 feet from the court.[/QUOTE]

check this out: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/255507p-218788c.html[/url]

... doh!

Yeah, FedEx also has Dream Seats, but they're not as close as these.

Showboating will make fans so angry they want to cause injury to a player? In the NFL you'd have to do a lambeau leap and have the fans pull you up for you to get into the stands. That's simply ridiculous. There was dancing all throughout the 80s and no one flipped out? Good luck lobbing a beer cup at a player. Not to mention, how's that upper tier going to get down Cpayne? File single file out of their nearest exit and all head down stairs so they can get to the lower level? That's ridiculous.

I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.

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I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.[/QUOTE]

I'll give things some time as the prosecutors sort things out, but some of those fans better be seeing some fines or jail time. There needs to be a message sent on this, otherwise fans will throw more stuff at players trying to bait them into a fight and the suspension that follows.

[QUOTE=Daseal]

I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.[/QUOTE]

While I dont think its all on the fans, because Artest was way out of line. The fans were defintley out of line as well. I think they should all be banned for life, and all face fines, jail time, and everything the NBA players are facing. Its just as much on them as the players.

[QUOTE=Daseal]Showboating will make fans so angry they want to cause injury to a player? In the NFL you'd have to do a lambeau leap and have the fans pull you up for you to get into the stands. That's simply ridiculous. [/QUOTE]

Not quite.

[QUOTE=Daseal]There was dancing all throughout the 80s and no one flipped out? [/QUOTE]

Not nearly to the extent of what players do today. Players do it to rub it in the guy's face who he just beat, that's bad sportsmanship and should not be tolerated. Remember the TO incident in Dallas?

[QUOTE=Daseal]
Good luck lobbing a beer cup at a player. Not to mention, how's that upper tier going to get down Cpayne? File single file out of their nearest exit and all head down stairs so they can get to the lower level? That's ridiculous. [/QUOTE]

If someone up there wanted a piece of the action, they could certainly get to it. The lower bowl in most stadiums are bigger than a lot of NBA arenas.

[QUOTE=Daseal]
I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.[/QUOTE]

Artest was trash before this incident. I'm not saying the fans didn't provoke a lot of it, but Artest had the chance to walk away.

Next time I see you, I'm going to throw a full cup of beer on you. I'm curious to see your reaction.

If my lambeau leap comparisson isn't accurate, please, explain it to me. Rid me of my ignorance. TO on the star? I loved every second of it. So what if they dance? Don't wanna see it? Don't let em' score. Words from my man, Fred Smoot.

I guess you think Kenyon Martin, who was just like Artest, is trash too? Or maybe he's just young and stupid like Sean Taylor. He was able to walk away from Ben Wallace, he was lying on the scorers table doing nothing, and got assaulted with trash. If this were someone else in the stands. Both guys would be charged, but the guy who threw the cup would get much more as far as punishment goes.

Artest was not innocent, it wasn't deserved, but he wasn't innocent. If you wanna throw a cup of beer at me, wait till I do something that's purpose is to tick you off. Even you know that if you intentionally try to tick people off (which is what Artest was doing by 'innocently' lying on the scorer's table), you should expect to irritate somebody to the boiling point at some point. As a professional (who has fans who would act the same way), he should understand this.

Around the edges of most football fields, there are stairways that lead right up to the stands for easy access for VIPs. Using the stairs, even Gilbert Brown could get into the stands without using a Lambeau leap (flop?).

I'm not just picking on Artest here, I think Stephen Jackson and Jermaine O'Neal should have been suspended just as long if not longer.

Sean Taylor can be classified as young and stupid at this point. His actions have not been nearly as severe as Artest's have in the past. If Taylor continues in footsteps of Artest, who has been a professional for 5 more years, I will classify Taylor as a piece of trash too.

Next time we're playing football/basketball when you get hit kinda funny and are in pain just lying on the ground a second obviously taunting me. I shall sprint to my car and grab a beer. Now I just need to keep a beer in there!

Are you saying that Artest was on the scorer's table because he was injured?

He just got hit in the face by Ben Wallace. He was completely pissed, but he walked away. I'm sure it hurt a bit.

Where is the love guys? I thought you two were soulmates.

To steal a quote from Homer S. Simpson:

"Maybe Cpayne's right about America being the land of opportunity, and maybe Daseal's got a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers."

The important thing is that Allure's new album, executive produced by Ron Artest, is in stores now.....gad, did you guys see that part of the Today Show interview? :doh:

lol, soulmates. We are actually 2 very different people (i'm sure you've noticed), yet friends.

We have about 3 things in common:
1) The Skins
2) Graduated in the same HS class
3) think the sound of a dixie horn would sound cool emanating from my super cool honda civic sedan (a la the General Payne)

You mean we're not soulmates?!

And honestly, when I see that bridge on the dirt road going to training camp, all I can think of is I hope he hits the bridge and out of somewhere gets the horn!

That road is getting paved. We're gonna have to find another back road to get to training camp.

Guess we all knew this was coming:

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