Amos Zereoue???
 

With the Steelers cutting Zereoue, what are your thoghts of signing him as a relief-back for Portis? I am not saying that we should try to get him but I dont think that Trung is that good and Zereoue is a bigger back than the other RB's in our stable. Just a thought...

I totally agree we should sign him. He can back up Portis. He can be a very good 3 down back, but this move will move betts and sultan down the depth charts and I really like sultan.

I see no reason to sign this guy, stick with Betts and Cartwright behind Portis.

I do think that we should use Cartwright more than the others.

I have a theory about the trade for Clinton Portis.

I believe that the new Skins' coaching staff looked at the game films from last year and made the determination that there was not a RB on the team that was going to be a feature back at the NFL level in the forseeable future. I know that will offend the "Rock Cartwright Fan Club" here and the "Ladell Betts for Hall of Fame Induction Movement" here, but I'm afraid it might be the case. ;)

So the Skins went out and found a way to bring in a RB who will relegate these guys to spot duty - which means they will be on the field only sporadically and therefore not able to screw things up. (It is difficult to screw up whan you are watching from the sidelines.)

Now the question is: Does the new coaching staff believe that any of the backs from last year is good enough to be the guy in case Portis has to miss a game or two? If they sign Zereoue, I think they are telling you - diplomatically and not harshly - that the RBs on this team last year were mediocre performers AND mediocre talents.

Zereoue should be available for a very reasonable price. It will be interesting to see if the Skins show any interest... :confused:

I am not on the Betts for HOF committee but I do think he can be a solid back given the opportunity if he can stay healthy. Zeroue choked at his opportunity this year, thats why he is out on his ass. I think we should stick with what we have.

If there is a Rock Fan Club I want to be president.... I think SportsCurmudeon may be right though. When you go out and get a RB of the caliber that Portis is, it is tough to argue with the fact the Gibbs thought he needed a damn good RB. That does not mean the Rock has no future with the skins. Instead of thinking about signing Amos to back up or " spell relief" for Portis, I think Rock would be just fine. Betts I am not to sure about, only because of lack of actually seeing him play.

I'd like to see some continuation from last year ... we don't need to bring in every free agent available just for the sake of change. I say pass on Zeroue and develop the talent we have in Rock, Betts and Sultan. Zeroue's nothing special and wouldn't be a significant upgrade, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I see no reason to sign this guy, stick with Betts and Cartwright behind Portis.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you Matty. Betts and Cartwright are both young and have alot of potential. Zero has already seen his best days.

I hope we get a chance to see what's in Sultan's bag-o-tricks someday soon.

Dont we still have Morton?

[QUOTE=SittingBull]Dont we still have Morton?[/QUOTE]
Yes, we still have Morton, as well as Trung "cap-cut candidate" Canidate, Betts, Cartwright, Sultan McCullough, John Simon, as well as fullbacks/"H-backs" Bryan Johnson (if he's retained as an RFA) and Mike Sellers.

I don't believe Zereoue would be an upgrade over Canidate, Betts, Cartwright, McCullough or Morton. I'm personally hoping that McCullough and Betts really shine in camp, and become the reliable backups/change-of-pace/spot-duty guys. McCullough has the talent to become a "poor-man's Clinton Portis" if he really applies himself. Now before you starting hurling rotten tomatoes at me, I'm not saying that he could ever approach Portis' level-- but he could become a good relief back with a similar skillset to Portis.

The Skins have the opportunity here to develop some of the talent already on the roster, though I'm sure next year's draft will bring in some new talent at the position as an insurance policy for Portis.

Zero would be a luxury we don't need and can't afford. We still likely need to replace Trotter (cap casualty?) with Barrow and/or Short and probably sign another DE and CB (see the Butler thread). Zero would expect a decent package, and considering Betts and Cartwright could easily spell Portis (and Sultan may well belong in that group too), he'd probably be too cap expensive.

We need to concentrate on needs rather than likes...

Rock didn't even get to start in college. I love the guy, but I don't see him as a feature back and he let us down in some crucial areas last year. I say get rid of all but Rock, Johnson and sultan. Betts will forever be hurt.

Betts won't forever be hurt. Sometimes guys just have some bad luck. He was a 2nd round pick, and I think he has quite a bit of talent. I doubt he's costing us that much against the cap, so why not keep him and let him prove himself. He has shown flashes at times, so it may be worth it.

Yep and remember it was a broken bone not a muscle/ligament/joint problem. Breaks are flukes and not a sign of an injury prone player. Betts should be back fully fit for camp - then we'll see what talent we have in the backfield.

i do'nt think any of the current guys on the redskins roster are good enough to replace portis for a game.AZ is though.i would cut betts,canidate, and mike sellers and keep rock,sultan,johnson and sign big amos.i also think that gibbs watched game tape and saw that none of the skins backs are durable enough to take 30 carries a game and that is why he went and got portis.you
can't blame those players though.TOBC drafted them to be receivers out of the backfield,not to have 20+ carries a game.i would sign famous amos in a
second if the price was right.
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If they wanted a big back they could have gotten Staley. They didn't so I don't think they'll go for zero either. I'll think they'll stick with what we've got and work to improve them. Betts should be back at full strength will a healed arm and Morton did pretty good when he got the chances.

betts will probably miss the whole season with an infected nasal hair or something.
keep cartwright,johnson,and sultan.cut the rest and sign AZ cheap.

[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]I have a theory about the trade for Clinton Portis.

I believe that the new Skins' coaching staff looked at the game films from last year and made the determination that there was not a RB on the team that was going to be a feature back at the NFL level in the forseeable future. I know that will offend the "Rock Cartwright Fan Club" here and the "Ladell Betts for Hall of Fame Induction Movement" here, but I'm afraid it might be the case. ;)

So the Skins went out and found a way to bring in a RB who will relegate these guys to spot duty - which means they will be on the field only sporadically and therefore not able to screw things up. (It is difficult to screw up whan you are watching from the sidelines.)

Now the question is: Does the new coaching staff believe that any of the backs from last year is good enough to be the guy in case Portis has to miss a game or two? If they sign Zereoue, I think they are telling you - diplomatically and not harshly - that the RBs on this team last year were mediocre performers AND mediocre talents.

Zereoue should be available for a very reasonable price. It will be interesting to see if the Skins show any interest... :confused:[/QUOTE]

OK SC, that's funny bett's for hall of fame movement :D you talkin to me? :D

But as far as Zereoue is concerned no way, the steeler's dumped him and who do they have? An old bus with worn out tread's, Zereoue would be just a big waste of time, besides IMO the back's we have behind portis are better or as good as anything Zereoue will give us.

what about a rock/johnson backfield when we need a bruiser back, and since Betts will be hurt I would like to see Johnson get a few carries.

On another note, I'd like to get Betts enough carries this year so we can get something for him in a trade.

Unknown Fact: Amos Zereoue is the strongest guy in the NFL. On a good day they say he can squat 720 LBs.

i think canidate would be a perfect fit in new england.send him there for a pick and
send betts to somebody anybody.

It seems like any RB is a perfect fit for NE =p

[QUOTE=saden1]Unknown Fact: Amos Zereoue is the strongest guy in the NFL. On a good day they say he can squat 720 LBs.[/QUOTE]

:laughing- how much can he squat on a bad day? :party-smi
that was too good to pass up my friend.

[QUOTE=Ghost]I'd like to see some continuation from last year ... we don't need to bring in every free agent available just for the sake of change. I say pass on Zeroue and develop the talent we have in Rock, Betts and Sultan. Zeroue's nothing special and wouldn't be a significant upgrade, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree....amongst all the upheaval of the roster we already have, it would be nice to see a couple of players retained!

1. For the record, I think Zereoue is a decent RB but nothing special. I would not sign him for any significant money.

2. I don't want to think about what kind of pick you might get from NE for Canidate. Maybe they'll give up their 11th round pick - - in a draft that lasts only seven rounds. :thumb:

3. I'm not so sure that "continuity" is all that important when you are coming off a 5-11 season even if you keep the same coaching staff. But when you come off 5-11 and bring in an entierely new staff, you need to take that opportunity to clean house because for whatever the reasons, the players on the team for the last two years did ... not ... get ... the ... job ... done!