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MTK 09-15-2010 12:28 PM

ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
Dallas is still grossly overrated, but what else is new?

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings]NFL Power Rankings Week 2 - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

One could make a case for the Skins being a few spots higher based on some of the piss poor performances of some of the teams ahead of them, but overall I think #14 is fair enough for now.

skinsfaninok 09-15-2010 01:33 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
Yea 14 sounds good

saden1 09-15-2010 01:38 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
People still think they won that game against the Redskins. I find it funny that the 49'ers are a spot above the Seahawks after the ass kicking they got.

Dirtbag59 09-15-2010 01:58 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
The Caps have spoiled me. I'm use these days towards looking at the first 3 spots to find my team.

tryfuhl 09-15-2010 02:10 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;733862]The Caps have spoiled me. I'm use these days towards looking at the first 3 spots to find my team.[/quote]

Not a big baseball or basketball fan huh?

mlmpetert 09-15-2010 02:11 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
I don’t understand how GB can be so high and Philly so low.
Id switch the Colts and Texans
Cowboys should be somewhere around 10-15
Jets should be around 8 or 9
Giants should be closer to the top 10
Seattle should be ahead of 49ers
The Chargers and Chiefs should be around 15-20

I think its fair where we are placed. It seems like our defense is good, but every team is going to be taking shots at Doughty until Kareem gets better and our offense is still trying to figure itself out. But this has to be the worst power rankings ive seen from ESPN, this is in the same league as yahoo’s power rankings.

I think PFT’s power rankings is pretty good:
[URL="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39175489/ns/sports/"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39175489/ns/sports/[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL]

Dirtbag59 09-15-2010 02:18 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=tryfuhl;733867]Not a big baseball or basketball fan huh?[/quote]

I was in the 90's. The Wizards (John Wall) and the Orioles (17-10 in August) are promising, but hockey and football are easily my favorite sports. I wish I loved baseball, it's always on.

irish 09-15-2010 02:23 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;733868]I don’t understand how GB can be so high and Philly so low.
Id switch the Colts and Texans
Cowboys should be somewhere around 10-15
Jets should be around 8 or 9
Giants should be closer to the top 10
Seattle should be ahead of 49ers
The Chargers and Chiefs should be around 15-20

I think its fair where we are placed. It seems like our defense is good, but every team is going to be taking shots at Doughty until Kareem gets better and our offense is still trying to figure itself out. But this has to be the worst power rankings ive seen from ESPN, this is in the same league as yahoo’s power rankings.

I think PFT’s power rankings is pretty good:
[URL="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39175489/ns/sports/"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39175489/ns/sports/[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][/quote]

Agree, those are a joke. I do think the Skins are a bit high since they didnt really appear to have any offense.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-15-2010 02:25 PM

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[quote=saden1;733846][B]People still think they won that game against the Redskins.[/B] I find it funny that the 49'ers are a spot above the Seahawks after the ass kicking they got.[/quote]

I agree. Were the situation opposite, we would have dropped like 12 spots... but seriously anywhere from 12-18 I think is fair.

tootergray34 09-15-2010 02:29 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
well, for an offense that only scored 6 points, I think we are pretty much lucky to be 1-0. If we lay it on Houston now, we better be top 8? And I mean LAY it on them.

FRPLG 09-15-2010 03:16 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
I think at this point I don't care much. middle of the road seems about right for us. We'll know better after game 4 who is for real and who isn't. What the Skins need to do is capitalize on the issues the other teams in our division have with injuries and poor play and get some games on the them. I am extremely interested in what we do this weekend. It will say a lot about our team. I think right now Houston is in a better place than Dallas.

murphy196 09-15-2010 03:16 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
I enjoy being under the radar. The Redskins never get any respect anyway, so I will take #14.

Lotus 09-15-2010 03:51 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
Those rankings change so much week-to-week during the season that they don't mean much now.

mooby 09-15-2010 03:59 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
Yeah this isn't an issue. We're ranked 14th, which is fine by me. Anybody check out how they broke it down? Clayton ranked us 8th, two of the other guys ranked us 16th lol. Idc where we are ranked as long as we get it done on gameday.

firstdown 09-15-2010 04:09 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=mlmpetert;733868]I don’t understand how GB can be so high and Philly so low.
Id switch the Colts and Texans
Cowboys should be somewhere around 10-15
Jets should be around 8 or 9
Giants should be closer to the top 10
Seattle should be ahead of 49ers
The Chargers and Chiefs should be around 15-20

I think its fair where we are placed. It seems like our defense is good, but every team is going to be taking shots at Doughty until Kareem gets better and our offense is still trying to figure itself out. But this has to be the worst power rankings ive seen from ESPN, this is in the same league as yahoo’s power rankings.

I think PFT’s power rankings is pretty good:
[URL="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39175489/ns/sports/"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39175489/ns/sports/[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][/quote]

Did you even see the Jets game? The Colts have owned Houston so with just one game and one win in yrs over the Colts I see how the Colts are ranked over them.

apiatt 09-15-2010 04:10 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
Hey guys! New to the board as a poster been reading for awhile thought it was about time for me to join and chime in.

Not sure what the real point of power rankings is after week 1 anyway. As we see in college football and basketball rankings mean very little especially early in the season. If they were to do such "Power Rankings" I would wait until at least week 4 that we have an idea of how everyone looks.

That being said, arguing any ranking at this point really doesn't mean a whole lot. But, for the sake of the argument I guess the two that I have a problem with is Houston at #7 and the Falcons at #13. I know Houston had a big win this week against a Super Bowl contender, but the Colts lost there best defensive player early on and did have enough time to adjust schematically to patch it up. As for the Falcons, not sure why they were so high in the first place. They seem like a .500 team to me and for them to still be in the top half after losing to a Pittsburgh team that didn't have their starting quarterback seems awkward.

Nevertheless, I think the ranking of the Skins is appropriate. If they turn out a similar defensive performance against the Texans then We should be vaulted into the top 10. Either way, the offense will need to produce more if we are to be a serious contender.

firstdown 09-15-2010 04:10 PM

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[quote=murphy196;733889]I enjoy being under the radar. The Redskins never get any respect anyway, so I will take #14.[/quote]

Respect has to be earned and we have not done that in the past 10 yrs.

SirClintonPortis 09-15-2010 04:12 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;733862]The Caps have spoiled me. I'm use these days towards looking at the first 3 spots to find my team.[/quote]

Being eternal regular season champions is not very impressive.

SirClintonPortis 09-15-2010 04:14 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=apiatt;733919]Hey guys! New to the board as a poster been reading for awhile thought it was about time for me to join and chime in.

Not sure what the real point of power rankings is after week 1 anyway. As we see in college football and basketball rankings mean very little especially early in the season. If they were to do such "Power Rankings" I would wait until at least week 4 that we have an idea of how everyone looks.

That being said, arguing any ranking at this point really doesn't mean a whole lot. But, for the sake of the argument I guess the two that I have a problem with is Houston at #7 and the Falcons at #13. I know Houston had a big win this week against a Super Bowl contender, but the Colts lost there best defensive player early on and did have enough time to adjust schematically to patch it up. As for the Falcons, not sure why they were so high in the first place. They seem like a .500 team to me and for them to still be in the top half after losing to a Pittsburgh team that didn't have their starting quarterback seems awkward.

Nevertheless, I think the ranking of the Skins is appropriate. If they turn out a similar defensive performance against the Texans then We should be vaulted into the top 10. Either way, the offense will need to produce more if we are to be a serious contender.[/quote]

If you mean letting Arian Foster gash them, it's going to be a loooooong day.

Dirtbag59 09-15-2010 04:15 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;733921]Being eternal regular season champions is not very impressive.[/quote]

Just have to take a cue from the Colts. Keep getting to the playoffs with the leagues best player and eventually something is bound to stick.

apiatt 09-15-2010 04:18 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
No kidding. I don't think the Colts were ready Texans to run at them like that. The Skins will have a week to prepare, plus I think they have better personnel to slow them down. Foster isn't MJD or Chris Johnson. He was just going against he right opponent on the right day.

InsaneBoost 09-15-2010 04:50 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
LOL. So the Cowboys go to #8, but we only go up 3. Ummmm, if we beat a #8 why shouldn't we be #7 or at least moved up real far? Oh that's right, this is BSPN who has a love fest for the Cowboys.

tryfuhl 09-15-2010 04:56 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
well power rankings aren't linear, direct, or whatever

we'll see

SmootSmack 09-15-2010 05:39 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
Skins jumped from 20 to 17 from the start of the preseason to the end and now 17 to 14 (though Clayton has them in his top 10). So that's a pretty solid jump

And you don't just jump over a team because you beat them. Did James Madison jumped over Virginia Tech because they beat them? Well that may be a bad example but you get my point.

mlmpetert 09-15-2010 06:50 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=firstdown;733918]Did you even see the Jets game? The Colts have owned Houston so with just one game and one win in yrs over the Colts I see how the Colts are ranked over them.[/quote]

The Jets have one of the best defenses in the entire league, the Ravens won by a point. The problem the Jets have; more so then the Hard Knocks, boys will be boys antics, load mouth coach and big names with bigger ego players, is that their QB sucks. That was absolutely clear when we played them in the preseason. I was shocked seeing how bad Sanchez was then. But i think theres a chance Sanchez gets better as time goes on, and if not theres Burnell to step in and managed games and 2 decent running backs to take pressure off him. ESPN has the Ravens as number 2 which i think is fair. So barely losing to a really good team keeps you in the top ten in my book.

When you go to a casino they show the last 20 colors that won on the roulette wheel. So when you see that it just landed on black 4 times in a row you place your chip on red, even though the next spin is completely independent of spins before hand. The Texans are good and the Colts are good, just not as good as the Texans imo this year. History plays little or no part when 2 capable teams play each other imo.

GusFrerotte 09-15-2010 06:56 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
From what I have seen yeah, that is fair. I can see us as high as 12 also.

InsaneBoost 09-15-2010 08:02 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=SmootSmack;733978]
And you don't just jump over a team because you beat them. Did James Madison jumped over Virginia Tech because they beat them? Well that may be a bad example but you get my point.[/quote]

Haha I understand. I was going to delete that part, but figured it was up long enough so no point. What I think I meant more was, their asses are constantly over rated. It's like I always say, one playoff win and here they are as the "Super Bowl rep." Come on.

Not going to say they aren't a good team, but....hell IDK what I'm trying to say, F DALLAS and ESPN.

tryfuhl 09-15-2010 08:13 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
IB you know Smoot works for ESPN right? haha

InsaneBoost 09-15-2010 08:17 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
WHAT. How do I place sir Smoot on ignore list :cheeky-sm

tryfuhl 09-15-2010 08:19 PM

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rumor is he's Colin Cowherd

j/k j/k

InsaneBoost 09-15-2010 08:27 PM

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Lol!!!!

tryfuhl 09-15-2010 08:44 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
seeya guys in a couple of weeks

SmootSmack 09-15-2010 09:08 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=tryfuhl;734056]rumor is he's Colin Cowherd

j/k j/k[/quote]

Ha!...no, not Cowherd. I honestly have nothing to do with these power polls so I don't get involved in the whole process. But I would say the pro-Dallas bias is a myth. I have evidence to back it up, but it's not info I will share. I would also say you guys don't realize there are many people of influence that work on the NFL here that are Skins fans (and Eagles, cowboys, Broncos, Falcons fans) but you can't let your fandom get in the way of the truth

tryfuhl 09-15-2010 09:13 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
I think Dallas gets so much love because they have names/weapons and you haven't been able to say the same for the other NFC East teams.. I don't get how they're constantly favored to go deep into the playoffs though.

To be fair almost every year at least a couple of the guys at ESPN predict us to turn it around that year.

apiatt 09-15-2010 09:24 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
Talent is definitely not what keeps Dallas from deep runs in the playoffs, it is coaching. I know Jason Garrett is considered a brilliant offensive mind, but I not sure why they would be so pass oriented in the 2nd half. For team that averaged nearly 5 YPC to only have 21 rushing attempts is just bad game planning.

Monkeydad 09-16-2010 12:32 PM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=tryfuhl;734056]rumor is he's Colin Cowherd

j/k j/k[/quote]

If he is...I hate him. :cheeky-sm

SirClintonPortis 09-17-2010 12:22 AM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;733925]Just have to take a cue from the Colts. Keep getting to the playoffs with the leagues best player and eventually something is bound to stick.[/quote]

Having a cupcake coach and lame GM isn't how I would describe the Colts, although I think Polian cried his way to a Bowl by changing the rules. Hockey is a game in which gritty players are a necessity, and there's a great void of grit on the Caps. Actually, I find the Caps to be more like the Cowboys post-Parcells and the Eagles in the previous decade.

skinsnut 09-17-2010 01:36 AM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
I wonder how these "power rankings" match up with vegas betting odds.
I'd guess that vegas probably has it better since money is involved.

Below are some current odds to win the superbowl (opening odds on left, current on right)
They are ranked in order of current odds.
According to this we'd be 15-16th and the top team is New England and Dallas is still in the top 6...which I dont disagree with...its a 16 game season and they royally screwed up their opener...they could have easily won...we didn't have firepower, but we took advantage of their stupid mistakes.

I know this sounds simple but also note...that teams below us should struggle to beat us and that we should struggle to beat teams above us. I'd say this list is fairly accurate. This does not mean we will be 8-8...we'd need to look at our schedule and see how it lines up. Unfortunately, i believe the majority of our games are against teams ranked higher than us.

New England 17/2 7/1
New Orleans 7/1 8/1
Indianapolis 13/2 8/1
Baltimore 24/1 10/1
Dallas 15/2 10/1
San Diego 17/2 10/1
Minnesota 11/1 12/1
Green Bay 19/2 12/1
N.Y. Giants 15/1 14/1
N.Y. Jets 14/1 14/1
Pittsburgh 12/1 14/1
Tennessee 22/1 20/1
Houston 30/1 20/1
Atlanta 20/1 22/1
Washington 50/1 25/1
Miami 30/1 25/1
Chicago 28/1 30/1
Cincinnati 35/1 30/1
Philadelphia 18/1 35/1
Seattle 80/1 40/1
Jacksonville 45/1 40/1
Denver 45/1 50/1
Arizona 40/1 50/1
San Francisco 45/1 50/1
Carolina 60/1 60/1
Kansas City 125/1 60/1
Cleveland 60/1 80/1
Detroit 80/1 100/1
Oakland 125/1 100/1
Tampa Bay 125/1 100/1
Buffalo 100/1 120/1
St. Louis 150/1 150/1

tryfuhl 09-17-2010 02:15 AM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
so team 15 not far off

Chevy13 09-17-2010 08:53 AM

Re: ESPN week 2 Power Rankings
 
14 aint bad we're ahead of the Cardinals and besides the early offensive struggles they didn't have too bad of a game. It would suck to win the first game and be 19 but then again they barely beat the Rams


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